Koh Samui

[Hamilton W]

Siam Bar and Grill had mudwrestling on Wednesday nights when I was last in Samui. They have an option where one may volunteer to go into the ring with two cuties, although last time I was there, no one volunteered, maybe next time.

Here are some photos of the mud wrestling which I'm posting here instead of the photo section because it pertains to a venue in Lamai, Koh Samui.

[Hamilton W]

Siam Bar and Grill @ Lamai Beach - Contact Info?

Trying to get contact information for the Siam Bar and Grill; The web site appears to be down.

I'm trying to locate the contact information from this bar/club as I was there last time. Anyone have the contact information?

[Eros74]

Ciao Gentlemen,

I decided to go,for the firt time to Thai, but want to stay in Bankok only 1 or 2 days, then to beach places, so one of them can please me tell me how is Ko Shamui about scene of pro? Rates and if good big scene? What about the beaches and the sea?
The best period to have wonderful beach life?

Thank to all of you in advance.

Luca

[That Asshole]

SA,

You are right dude. I got it all wrong. I just can't find the motivation to put in the effort any more (nice shirt, shower, shave, nice talk). So, that's why I am barking. Sorry.

Those below average BGs actually satisfy me quite well. And the sand is white. The water is warm. The sun shines over the coconut palms. Samui is great, anyhow.

Regards,

A

[Samus Aran]

Alexander:

Dude you got it all wrong! SA prays on these western women. You dont think they come to Thailand looking for sex? See, you are interested in haveing a relationship witha Thai hooker. While you think this is dandy, they just putting on a show for you because they really could care less about you. Thus, they treat you as badly as the western women that you talked about. SA traveled to Koh Samui for a week and hooked up with some very hot and sexy western women who were there in Koh Samui on vacation to soak up the sun and get laid. Your style of picking up chics in go go bars and beer joints isnt going to look good to some western girl. SA worked the hotels to perfection. Buy the lady a drink and just talk and head out into the ocean. You dont need to pay her a thing! In fact, they have so much damn money they will teat you. Of course, if you are not in good shape, havent showered, etc... then you are not going to win any of their hearts. Better you stick to the hos in the bars who are playing with you and your wallet. SA will satisfy the western women in Samui who are better at sex than any Thai ho SA has been with.

SA is not looking to make enemies but the fact is Alex one needs to look at oneself before criticising someone else and their behavior. It takes 2 people in this game. You looking for a GFE with a thai hooker is something we should be discussing because that is teh root of teh problem. You falling for a girl because she brings you to orgasm. Funny.

SA was nicely 3f'd by these western women and it was his pleasure to be on the receieving end of a 3f. Alex, you get treated like a dog by the westerners, maybe you should loosen up your bark and stop pissing on trees in public.

Furthermore,

Why do you gusy think topless bathing is so bad in Koh Samui? SA doesnt know how many topless fat out of shaoe men he saw walking the streets in Samui. Frankly, it was nicer to look at a pair of tits on a woman then the "he hooters' on some of you guys. Guys walking into restaurants, riding a motorcycly, dropping into 7 11 etc... shrtless. In the USA you wouldnt even be allowed in! Stiop the whining about the topless women! You men are just as guilty!

Samus Aran

[Tamaman]

I will be at the full moon party on Ko Phangan on May 4th. I'll be sure to report on my exploits.

Does anyone have any first hand experience with the full moon party?

[Tamaman]

I will be in Samui for a couple of weeks in May. I've read many conflicting reports about the the state of mongering in Samui. I'm going to shop around in BKK and Pataya for a few days to find a TG to bring down south with me to be on the safe side.

How much would it be reasonable to pay for a BKK or Pataya girl for say a week? Would 1000B/day be about right? I'm ok looking and speak some thai.

thx

[Freeler]

Western girl and ho-boy from KohSamui,

Well, Alexander, you gave me a reason to tell this little true tale.
One night last January I travelled from Trang to BKK by nighttrain. The train stops at Phumpin (SuratThani rws) to allow the LP gang from KohSamui to board and spoil my journey. There was this ugly American girl who came into my car and she had a Thai ho-boy from a Samui bar in tow. They sat in the doorway (but didn't fall out...) and they probably discussed eternal love and happiness and living forever and more of that hippie shit.
I took a before bedtime walk, passed them and heard what she said to him: 'At first I thought you were going to steal my luggage, but now I love you'.
BARF!
The next morning they sat at my table in the dinnercar and she proclaimed eternal love and stuff and how she would take care of him (doesn't she know it's : 'I take care you!' in Thai-English?).
He nodded and said: 'I have no money'.
I could tell by the loving look in her eyes that she was going to take care of his water-buffalo as long as he boned her.
Ho-man took her hand and held it, lovingly.
And then the sun rose and all was wonderful.

Now I have to stop before I start a Z like rant on Western women.

KohSamui is not for me!

[Firedick]

Alex,

Nice report. Confirms what I've heard. I agree whole heartedly with your assessment of Western women and their behaviour in the LOS. It actually embarrasses me.

I do have to correect you on one point through. The "No Unescorted Ladies" policy in Angeles refers to local working girls only (or potenial working girls). Pinays of higher class and Western women can go anyplace. But, thankfully, you are correct that they are very rare. Thank God for the LBFM's of AC. Great attitudes. But, if AC had things to do other than monger, it would attract the type of tourist that may bring a slow death to places like Samui, Phuket or the like. IMHO.

FD

[Duniawala]

Alexander

Good informative report.

D

[That Asshole]

More about Samui

I took a cute little girl out of one of the beer bars. She would have been considered average looker (with some goodwill) in Pattaya but I was happy since there were not many 10/10 around. She was also very gentle, clever and good company. We went to eat in a Thai restaurant, played pool then drank cocktails on Chaweng Beach. I had a good time. At that point we hadn't even discussed cash (apart me paying the bar B200). But just to be sure, before moving into the bedroom I confirmed the usual LT=B1000. She didn't seem to care too much about it though.

Sex was OK.Nice, gentle. Very responsive, easily accepting any position. I don't particularly like women who are crazy about sex so we got along well. Then off to Reggae Pub. She got herself drunk there. Back in the bedroom she initiated sex again but I declined. Too much is too much. Also I don't quite enjoy poking in the same hole more than once. It was interesting sleeping next to a "meat". Hadn't done it for long time. After disco I was actually trying to send her home but she wouldn't leave. Apparently a lot of girls were sharing her room and it was not comfortable. So I let her stay overnight. Waking up next to a "meat" in the morning. What shall I do with it? I had already got my "one point" and there was no reason for more physical exertion. But I just popped it again anyway. Was it beneficial? I doubt it. It is easy to become a glutton with meat around all the time.

Anyway, our conversations cleared some questions about Samui. She had a passport. In fact I have noticed that a large number of bar girls have passports in Samui (that they have never used and may never will). I had also noticed the fast turn-around of "meat". Many are so fresh, they hardly speak any English.I thought I had solved the mystery of why were there so many plain girls on the Island.

Here is her story. She met a handsome german dickhead last year who banged her for 3 weeks for FREE on Koh Phangan. Promised to take care of her and her kid, hinted marriage, etc. He got his free fucks from her. No questions asked. He said he would be back in december for her. Then january came, february and so on. He didn't turn up of course. Slowly even the phonecalls stopped. Of course she is just "meat" but I felt so sorry for her, broke my heart. The fact is, there are an unproportionate large number of young western men holidaying the island. They want to fuck FREE, just like they fuck their girlfriends. But those European girls have jobs and money and no crying kids and mama, papa and 20 cousins at home like these thai bargirls have. They are fun of course. But they will not feed the family in Isaan and the buffalo. They pay with promises instead of cash. Sooner or later the attractive girls realize this and [CodeWord140] off, go back home empty handed or go to Pattaya or Phuket.

These young men's words are just like a bad check. It might have 100,000 baht written on it but you can't cash it. I am only waving my (REAL) 500 baht note but to no avail. I won't get the good meat in Samui (but I will in Pattaya).

The scene in Pattaya, Phuket (and Angeles/PI) is dominated by mature men who have the cash and therefore the industry sustains itself well, year after year. Also they have grown mature enough to not believe in FREE fucks any more. Someone always pays. If not you then the fellow down the road (and one day you will be that fellow).

Certainly Samui is a fun place to be. However not even a Thai lady can live on "Sanuk" alone (sanuk="fun" in thai). The uglier girls stay because they wouldn't fare better even in Phuket. Also, some of the more cash centered models might find their little niche market in Samui, but only a very few.

[That Asshole]

KOH SAMUI, THAILAND

Because of the island's beauty and tranquility it is likely that you will have a far better time with an average looking girl in Samui than with a stunner in Bangkok. Furthermore, apart from the go-go bars and the sex-massage places the norm seems to be LT or XLT encompassing several days. I was perceived as some sort of a freak requesting ST from beer-bar girls in Samui. (Nevertheless it is available). In general the girls' attitude is very relaxed and friendly, very different from quick-cash centered Bangkok. I have had some great times ( but still looking forward again to the Pattaya-experience with the multitude of sex-hungry beauties).

If you come to Samui for sex then also consider the following:

Despite of what I said before in fact it is better if you not come here for sex at all but if you can get some then consider it a bonus. Why? Because of this:

Bear it in mind that the scene in Samui is largely dominated by very arrogant Western women. They are everywhere and there is a great interaction with local females. Guys take out girls and introduce them to their groups that includes females. European girls sit down at bars and chat with bar-ladies. It's much more common here than let's say in Pattaya. The Western females do things that Thai girls ask:"Why can't we also?"
It's well known fact that in general western females treat their men like dogs. Many men like this and those who don't they go to Asia to find still feminine ladies. There is just too much interaction here and a lot rubs on Thai girls. In Pattaya western women rarely sit down at beer bars, they rather look at them in horror and turn away. It's different in here and this affects the scene a lot in Samui. That is why any reasonable looker bar girl who has spent some time here will come with an attitude that is not nice.

(If you want totally unspoilt feminine minds than do yourself a favour and go to Angeles City, Philippines. Not even one western female in town. In fact they don't let them in the bars if they have no escort. What a blessing.)

AROUND THE ISLAND

NATHON: this is the town where all the ferries arrive and depart. Doesn't have much foreigner-friendly entertainment if any.

One massage/sex place next to Palace Hotel on waterfront, open sunset to 2AM. Quality not so famous.Rooms are basic. Foreigners are accepted but english is not well spoken. One pop B500.

LAMAI:

1. Beer bars: opposite McDonalds on the main road

2. Alongside McDonalds

3. At the south end of the strip,between Thai boxing school & Golden Sand Resort

4. On the street running east-west, next to Bauhaus pub

5. A few individual bars along the main road

Bar fines: B200

Pay girl: B500 ST, B1000 LT

Quality is generally poor to average with a very few cute little girls who seem to be taken very soon every night. There's no bar with consistent good quality meat. Nevertheless most of the girls seem to have lots of fun and the atmosphere is generally good. Possible to sink a few beers and playing games for a few hours even if with the dragons.

The beach is beautiful, and bungalows are cheap, B500 at the waterfront or B400 a little back. Quite easy to spend a few lazy days.

The large number of "western" female tourists is disturbing and quite a bit destroys the scene but there's little we can do about it right now. These "liberated" females are quite simply "arrogant", very unlike thai ladies and their attitude is rubbing on. It's no good.

CHAWENG:
Very busy town. Large number of beer bars. Two go-go bars. One (sex)massage salon.
Quite more good quality meat than in Lamai but still very-very few for the hordes of sex-starved men. It's impossible to score a new reasonable one every night, maybe that's why men seem to hold on to the good ones for days and weeks in a row.

Main centres with lots of bars:
1. around Green Mango in the Center of town
2. on both sides of the road leading to Reggae Pub
3. behind Starbucks Cafe at the north end of the strip
4. a few bars near Samui Natien Resort even further up north
5. some bars next to Pink Lady Massage at the south end of the strip
6. a couple of bars even further south, opposite Seascape beach Resort
7. some individual bars along the main road, eg Flingstone's Bar

Bar fines:B200-300
Pay girl:B500 ST, B1000 LT in all beer bars

There is one (sort of) high class massage/sex ST salon near the south end of the strip, the PINK LADY. Price is fixed B2000 for one hour full service. Girls sit outside in front of the shop. Open from noon to midnight. Day shift seemed rather pathetic, in the evening shift there were some reasonable lookers 20-22 yo but appeared very unfriendly to me.
Is it again the "beautiful-girl-sindrome"? Also, if you happen to shoot your load in let's say 10 minutes then your time is automatically up. Shower again and you are out. Not nice.

GO-GO:

There are two go-go bars in Chaweng town, both near Green Mango. Neither of them is very famous, maybe compable to some of the more average bars in Pattaya.

Of course bikini tops are on all the time. I wonder how can this be justified given the number of semi-naked western females on Chaweng Beach in broad daylight? In contrast to this, in a strictly adult venue (under 20 are not allowed), behind closed doors the bikini tops must stay on. Anybody find this logical?

The better of the two by atmosphere seems to be "Dream Girls". The girls are friendlier and maybe slightly better lookers too. The other go-go seems to be over air-conditioned and very cold by attitude too. Nevertheless both appear to be under the same management.

Bar fine in go-gos: B500

The better girls ask B1500 for ST. This sometimes can be negotiated down to B1000, sometimes not. I have never taken anyone LT from here but I hear some guys pay through the nose, B2000-3000 and up.

The main problem with Samui is the lack of consistently good looking meat. And as it goes the real stunners seem to get spoiled rotten within a short time. One bar may have one good looking girl and once she's gone only the dragons are left, like around 10PM.

However, at 1:30AM when all the bars close there is a great cavalcade of meat around Green Mango for about a half an hour, all the girls not taken or have finished a ST plus the free-lancers seem to turn up. But who really wants to start fucking at 1:30AM?

By the time you settle the deal, go home it is 2o'clock. By the time you finish it's 3 or 4o'clock. Already morning. Your whole day is stuffed, you are sleepy, grumpy. Either you waste the day sleeping or not sleep and then your next night is wasted because you wander around like a zombie. So better get something early and get some sleep as well.

One more note about western females' behaviour in Samui. In my opinion it is simply arrogant to display one's tits in public on the beach or otherwise. It shows a sign of disrespect, not caring and agressiveness that a traditional thai "lady" would never do.
Now what would happen if some enterprising male would go around start grabbing naked tits on the beach? Technically it is illegal to go semi-naked in public in this country, so what would the Thais do? Prosecute the woman? Prosecute you? Both of you? Neither of you?

[All About Bob]

Dear PurpleNGold,

1000 Bht is for more than LT, you should get them for a full 24 hours, its not expenisve at all in Samui, I am going u pto Bangkok for a week, let me know if you have any good information.

Tamaman, for Samui, go buy a pay as you go chip, DTAC is the name, very cheap, and has good coverage on it, much better than Orange

Good luck

[PurpleNGold]

All About Bob,

Great first post! Good intel in a concise format. I wish all new members would start their WSG life off so well.

One question, is the 1000BT for ST or LT?

[Tamaman]

I have a totally none monger question, sorry!

I'll be in Samui for a while and want a mobile phone that works well there. Anybody got any experience with phones? Which service should I get?

Thx in advance.

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