2003-2005 Archived Streetwalkers Reports

[Lee Bog]

Explorer8939,

Thanks for the interesting information on the health cards / SG / club situation. I was wondering, do you know your facts firsthand, or are they from a reliable source? Just want to clarify.

Also, your comment on a girl possibly having HIV even with the health card coincides with the information I got from the clinic. Be safe & cover up, all.

[Porn Star King]

Hello Fellow Mongers,

I would like thank you all for the information you have provided. I've been making solo trips to the border every week since late October. I believe I've become quite an accomplished monger based on the information from this board. So, thank you again.

This being my first post and all, I feel it is necessary to tell you why I chose to post now instead of earlier. GettingTang stated that mongerers are suspicious hobbyist. This is true, it is why I have never posted before. Why do I post now, because I am a suspicious hobbyist and would like to warn my fellow suspicious hobbyist to be suspicious of Country John.

Country John has stated that he is ex-LE this may be true or it may be false, he could very well be LE still or worse he may be some type of scam artist or even worse bisexual looking to get a piece of ass with some tang on the side. Who really knows?

If you read the Opinions and Editorials section under prostitution and law enforcement you will see that Country John believes you should be held accountable for your monger actions here in the states, but never states that it is acceptable for you to monger in Mexico. At least that is the impress I am left with. That being said, I suspect CJ to be 1 of 2 things. He is either LE looking to clean up the SD area by getting the SD area mongers busted while crossing the US border.

IE; CJ says he drives his car into Mexico and parks around the corner from the clubs and never has and problems. This tends to make you believe that do this is no problem. Then he wants to meet with you, by doing this he will build confidence and trust in you with him. Then his next step would be to get you to bring your car into Mexico park your car around the corner from the club and then he or someone he has hired would plant drug under neath your car. He then calls the border and tells them to look out for your car because you are a drug smuggler. Bam your busted for drug smuggling and Country John gets a SD monger off the streets for good.

Another possible scenario is CJ is not LE but is in fact ex-LE who has gone bad and become a drug smuggler. He builds confidence, gets you to bring your car in then has a kilo of cocaine planted underneath your car. You drive your car back across the US border unsuspectingly, which makes you a perfect cover. Then he uses his LE ties to run your license plate info find out where you live and goes and retrieves his package. If you get stopped and popped at the border no skin off his back because he'll just find another "deputy" here on this board to do his dirty work.

I know that all this sounds suspicious to the point of paranoia but don't you think you should be a bit suspicious? Trust your instincts.

Now this is the last time you will here from me about this.

On a side note: Country John may be the coolest person on the face of the planet and you have nothing to woory about if you decide to meet up with him.

[Country John]

Explorer:

I've seen the car so I know it's true. A couple of cops like guys drove through, stopped and got out but they were looking at a vehicle in the alley, not the girls.

It is impossible to run "amok" on this board when you are dealing with morons.

Had an interesting PM from a member who actually met up with one of these guys, saying that these guys really are morons so no big deal, I figured that out a while back. I'm waiting for permission to post the PM now. You'll love it.

Be Safe and BE NICE
Country John

[Pokey]

Explorer says:
"
). I've seen the health inspectors in action, they drive a blue Crown Vic down the alley."


Danger!!!

Explorer, If you see a "Crown Vic" driving down the alley, "RUN"
Thats no health inspector. There is only one person I know on this forum that drives that type of car. He is running "amok"on this forum. His possible M.O. is to flash a fake badge, and bother the SG's and Mongers alike.


P.S. Explorer, I notice you question other posters, regarding names, places, and date. How do you know this? and that?

Doing that is just a waste of time, you will never get a specfic response.

Be Careful

[Country John]

Explorer:

Thanks for the clarification. RODDD and I observed this happening when we were in the Alley.

Interestingly, the first pop volunteered her card and showed me her arms (no drugs) etc etc. She also made it a point to mention that they did check for HIV. Your comments are still very vaild though and a real reason for concern. I was quite surprised at this. I had her for an hour - no language problem with her, it was pop #2 that had the language barrier (or I in this case).

Through the "interpreter" I made very sure she understood the deal before we went upstairs and she stuck to it. The only comment I have is that it could take 20 minutes to make sure the girl understands the deal and this might not always be workable.

It's also interesting that the girls in the clubs would be less strict about health than the SG's. The common belief is that it's the other way around.

Country John

[Explorer8939]

Since some guy earlier posted a message about Street Girls that was filled with misinformation, let me correct the record:

1) SGs are more likely than Club girls to have valid health cards. The prime reason for that is they have no place to hide from the inspectors. When the inspectors enter a club, the chicas without health cards will pose as waiters, will flee out the back, or otherwise hide. The SGs simply get caught, since they are out in the open. Therefore, the SGs, except for those around the Hotel Najera, are almost universally carrying health cards, whereas many club girls don't have them.

2) There are health inspectors who do check the chica's health cards, from the Servicios Municipales. Cops will also check out a chica's health card, as that's the easiest way to get a mordida from a chica, if her card is not up to date, they can take the chica down to the station (or threaten to). I've seen the health inspectors in action, they drive a blue Crown Vic down the alley.

3) The health cards don't provide that much extra safety for us. If a chica is infected with HIV, it takes 6 months for the infection to be at the level that a test may show the infection; however, the chica will be infectious prior to this, and therefore you are at risk. Even so, the health system rarely checks the chicas for HIV, instead focusing on more trivial diseases, like VD.

4) The rate of infection in the Zona is alarmingly high. Its not that the chicas are picking up diseases from their clients, they pick them up from their boyfriends, some percent of whom are bisexual, drug users, or otherwise doomed. The chicas then pass the diseases on to mongers who think the chicas are clean.

[Explorer8939]

Country John:

Given that the SGs don't speak much English, and you are using translators to secure SGs, how are you having these conversations in the room with the SGs?

How do convince the SGs to show you the holy of holies, their health card, which has their real name on it?

[Hargow20]

Sorry, but I don't know the names of to many girls. There used to be this one girl named Wendy who worked down there about a year ago.

[Country John]

Gekko

I suck with names. I made it a point to ask the girls their names - even repeated them but do you think I can remember them now? No sir. Sorry, I guess I was counting on my pictures working out.

Let's see,
First pop was with a short (maybe 5'5") snaggletoothed, black haired chica with about decent body that was MUCH better after the clothes came off. Second pop was a spinner, same height, probably 90lbs, probably 20 yrs max, long black hair, NO english which made it a bit difficult to communicate but real cute and petite. That deal was set up buy a spanish speaker who was a barker for one of the clubs.

I promise I'll pay closer attention to names - I owe you guys that but if we hook up for Operation AlleyKat2 on the 29, I'll point her out!

There are a lot of various experiences with girls posted here and I want to say that I've experienced just about all of the good and bad the SWs have to offer but on Operation AlleyKat I used different tactics that worked very very well for me and I speak NO spanish. I am sure that I will have an easier time of it next trip.


Be Safe and BE NICE

Country John

[Gekko]

Hargow20,

I've been able to get bj from all the girls there in the alley that I've been with. Flaviola, Jasmine, Erika (2of them), Christina and Monica. Curious, who do you consider the better looking ones there? Maybe I'll give 'em a try on my next trip on the 29th.

Country John

What are the names of the girls you hooked up with? What do they look like? You know, like the color of their hair, were they clean, how tall, how old, what were they wearing. Where were they standing and so forth.

That info would help us hook up for a for sure good time. I'll be going down on the 29th with PrintMan and MrVee if you'd like to hook up.

The prowlin GEKKO

[Hargow20]

I used to go down to TJ sometimes, but the action down there is not all that great. The problem with the sw's is that the better looking ones on Cohula alley will not do bj's. Usually I will will choose a girl on Constitucion. Those girls are usually willing to do more and a bit cheaper as well. I found this one girl who was willing to do a facial for 15$. She said she was saving money to cross the border.

[Country John]

Operation AlleyKat

Well, I hooked up with RODDD at the Alley on Thursday for some serious mongering and further research in the Alley along with some scoping out of AB.

I was right, my Logitech camera is a piece of shit so the pics did not work out (sorry).

First let me say that RODDD is an outstanding member and was a lot of fun - wish the rest could have made it.

Second let me say that ALL of the girls in the Alley are REQUIRED to have CURRENT (within 30 days) health checks and are REGULARLY spot checked by LE and Health officials. They are logged in a register, IDs are verified -all good.

I can say this with absolute certainty because RODDD and I stood in the Alley and witnessed this happening. We actually were walking next to the inspectors as they were checking the girls. This is a fact, so be assured that that aspect of the operation is happening. This happened after my first pop, when RODDD and I were back on patrol in the Alley.

We hit the alley at about noon and did a walkabout to "check the scene and get into the groove which was far out and infinitly distant man." I was amazed at the variety - all shapes and sizes. I was also struck by the number of ladies. The ratio of girls to guys even at that early hour was 5:1 easy. There were at least 10 real jean creamers.

My goal was a 2pop and back across by 5. I wanted to go for one hour with a nice pre-qualified chica and when I made the selection and did some pre-qual before going upstairs, I made sure the negotiations were solid.

First trip cost a total of 80. 60 for the girl, 20 for the room. It was money very well spent. A total GFE experience. The girl was fabulous. I'd say a 7 body, 7 face. She made it a point to show me her medical card and explained that she was very clean and would stay that way so condom for everything. (OK by me man!!!). Showed me her arms (no needle marks) etc and said she was very cautious to "do not ask sin condom please."

She hopped in the sack and lots of skin contact, genital massage. Her perkey breasts (B's) were amazing to touch and suck. After about 10 minutes of this she made sure old velvet head was at attention and then she slowly mounted - I mean slowly. Jeez..almost exploded. Nice slow and rocking on top for about 20 minutes. Never had it like that in TJ before. I love the small of womens sweat.

I used the entire hour (actually the hotel desk guy told me I was 7 minutes over) and enjoyed EVERY minute of it. I asked her how much for an all night and she said 150 to which I replied in the affirmative - I'll definitly hook up next time I do an all nighter in TJ.

Meanwhile, RODDD was hanging over a barstool at AB. When I recovered from my GFE I went to AB and found RODDD sitting at the bar, beer in hand and smiling quietly to himself - he had just encountered a mattress monster at AB. He'll post his experience but we observed that the same ratio of guys/girls at AB made them a little more willing to negotiate and gave us more to chose from. Patty#1 was off - too bad. I would have hooked up if she'd been there.

We finished our drinks and headed back to the Alley (this was about 3PM, and this is when we observed the health checks happening) to re-scope, recharge and check the quality of the girls again.

BTW, drove across, parked 1/2 block from AB, got my car washed and cleaned inside for $5. (a very nice job too) Parked all day for $5. but bought Mexico Insurance for $17 -an absolute must if you take your vehicle to Mexico.

You must pre-qualify the girls before you go upstairs. Yeah, they'll grab ass all day long (one girl commented that RODDD and I were "wearing a hole in the sidewalk" because we walked back and forth so much) but if they are cold on the sidewalk they'll be cold upstairs so see if they warm up to you on the street by being nice to them and asking for a hug. You need to develop this into a workable tactic since it will tell what her temperature is - very important.

Also be CLEAN. My first girl said that she turned down several men because they did not look clean - she said she doesn't need the money that bad - go figure.

Second POP came after considerable scoping and interviewing. Girl 2 was a young slip of a thing, negotiated through a hustler pimp type guy. Last trip I got ripped but this time I wanted to really test the guy because he was coming in cheaper for the same service (1HR FS Good Time yadayadayada).

Before taking the girl I made absolutly certain that she understood the deal and she did. The guy was legit. It is possible to have a decent experience in this way and it could actually save you some time. The girl pays the guy a few bucks for doing the hustle.

Well, it worked out great. Got the Girl for 50 this time for the hour and the room for 10. I could write paragraphs about the experience with the girl. She (both of them actually) could fuck the stars right out of the sky. Having the hour takes the pressure off and gives you time to relax and play with the nice soft toys. Thought the 2pop would be very difficult but she was so sensual (and pretty) that I welled up after about 35 minutes and did my "execution by electric chair" impression after which she gave me a huge hug, got dressed and left. Total time was probably 40 minutes and I wasn't going to argue about it because I was basking in the afterglow and feeling pretty good about my 2pop.

I will focus on the alley for future research and I am in the planning stages for Operation AlleyKat II.

I'm gonna let RODDD post in the AB forum but let me say that we agreed on three things:

1. Go to AB and the Alley early if you want to have the best deal. The girls are great and no sense waiting for the 10's after 9, they don't want to fuck and they are not as customer service minded as the early crowd. If you have trouble with the selection, there's something wrong with you (IMHO).

2. Go with a buddy (preferably a fellow WSG mongerer). If something happens to you (God forbid) you will need to have a buddy there to claim the body. We're all 10' tall and bullet proof right? Wrong. Mexico is not the place to have a problem and no backup.

3. Fellow WSG Mongerers should hook up more often. It's a lot of fun and we have a lot to talk about, it makes for a very enjoyable afternoon.

No problem getting back to the USA, we had 20 to 30 minute wait in line but, again, the company was teriffic.

PM me for my hotmail address if you want to talk about Operation AlleyKat II.

All in all we had a fun day. A big difference when you hook up with a fellow mongerer. That's the way to go.

Be Safe and BE NICE
Country John

PS: Forgive the spelling errors. I'm in a hurry.

[irishman]

I have been offered sin condom full service by three girls at AB over the past couple of years. It is very rarely offered, but it does happen. However, I absolutely would not do full service sin condom with any chica.

[Exodus]

It seems that the prices for the SW are pretty set: $20 for a quicky. Nothing fancy. Clothes off, dfferent positions and "extras" all cost more and need to be negociated for beforehand. The SW are available 24/7, believe me, all day long. There are good looking girls around, but I think the best ones are at Adelitas.

[Mutha Foo]

Contrary to the previous poster, why would you want to go sin condom? You're better off playing russian roulette. I personally have never been offered sin condom from a bar girl but then again, I have never asked to go sin condom.

Mutha.