Thread: Rio de Janeiro - Crime & Safety
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08-25-21 06:05 #1308
Posts: 37Originally Posted by Nordico [View Original Post]
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08-25-21 04:10 #1307
Posts: 1949Just reported it.
Originally Posted by MrEnternational [View Original Post]
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08-24-21 23:33 #1306
Posts: 2680Originally Posted by ManchesterLad1 [View Original Post]
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08-24-21 20:48 #1305
Posts: 15908Originally Posted by Xpartan [View Original Post]
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08-24-21 19:40 #1304
Posts: 614Originally Posted by PapiMuyRico [View Original Post]
I always carry my passport with me.
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08-10-21 07:16 #1303
Posts: 1949I'm not in Rio, but a few thoughts
Originally Posted by PapiMuyRico [View Original Post]
For safety purposes in Rio, I carried about $30-40 in reals and one credit card. When I'm on the hunt, I take more, but not more than I might actually need. Never had a problem but if I did, I'd just hand them to them. Get a cheap phone too and leave you iPhone in your hotel room.
Uber is fine, but are they more secure than official cabs? I doubt it.
On arrival, I wouldn't carry anything valuable in a suitcase that I put in the trunk. All my money and valuables are with me inside the cab. And I try to take as little cash with me as possible (Schwab for ATMs).
A hotel safe is not 100% safe. But a thief with a master key is unlikely to steal everything. They might steal one bill rather than the whole wad hoping you won't notice. Last thing they want is a pissed off gringo.
And you don't need a visa to Brazil anymore.
HIH.
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08-10-21 05:25 #1302
Posts: 34Best beach in Rio
Best beach in Rio to swim and not get annoyed by too many vendors.
Clean water and beach obviously.
I do not enjoy too many aggressive vendors like I experienced in Cartagena Colombia so I would like to avoid that if possible.
Is all above possible in Rio?
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08-09-21 21:25 #1301
Posts: 65Originally Posted by Vagabundo1 [View Original Post]
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08-09-21 16:46 #1300
Posts: 82I need assesssment on-site in Rio about safety and security matters
Good morning gentlemen. I want to raise a couple issues about safety and money matters while in Brasil.
First, I haven't been in Brasil since before the Pandemics so How is the safety / security situation right now? Is there a lot of robberies, muggings, street scams going on? Has the economic crisis affected the security situation?
Second, when you move around, how you protect your money? You carry a wallet? You put your money on your shoes? You carry a credit card as an emergency back up? Where do you put it?
What do you carry as an ID? Carrying your passport around is pretty silly. If you get robbed (like I was in 2000) you will face a nightmare trying to get a new or temporary passport from your consulate: You'll have to travel to wherever is located during business hours (imagine if you get robbed or loose it during weekend or extended holidays), produce copies of your passport, get photos, pay fees (if the criminals left you with any money) and hope that you get a simpathetic consulate employee who may give you a harder time than necessary. I wouldn't want to experience that again.
What I do is take a photocopy of your passport front page, Brazilian visa and entrance stamp to a cartorio (legal offices the Brazilian bureaucracy uses for everything legal) to get them notarized. With that notarization you can leave your passport in your hotel safe.
It is important to emphasize that you are most vulnerable when you arrive at the airport and go into the city: you have all your money and belongings with you and there is no way around that. I carry a money belt under my pants where I put my passport, credit cards and money. I leave some money and 1 credit card in my wallet in case the worst happens, the bandidos will have some couple hundred, a credit card and leave me alone happily without any harm.
That's a reason why is important to choose a safe, well know taxi company. I prefer Uber since the drivers are investigated and you can see their feedback.
Third, I always use the hotel safe. However, do you think is really safe? Do we have another options?
I'd appreciate somebody in Rio can give an assessment of the safety / security on the ground. And the state of the favela-police wars.
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06-08-21 17:16 #1299
Posts: 2235Bombeiro militar
Bombeiro militar.
To contrast with the general butt nekid look carrying the AR from another Brazil thread, see the policia civil probably with a AR and a automatic pistol chatting with the bombeiro militar (khaki, to distinguish with the grey of the bombeiro civil. Which is why the grey cargo pant, the uniform of the bombeiro civil, is a neutral, recommended form of dress.).
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05-24-21 07:12 #1298
Posts: 4053Originally Posted by Brasil Nut [View Original Post]
I stayed in one of the Zona Sul comunidades during several years. In the beginning when there were peace there only used to be some old bandits with antique weapons. When CV took over and TCP entered the neighbouring comunidade it became very tense. Much more armed bandits. Later when UPP settled in the middle it got even worse. Usually the bandits are quite calm and polite when they know that you're living there. The problem are the new young guys who want to show off. Young guys, often high on dope, armed with big guns which they don't know how to use and very nervous.
The bandits had a deal with the UPP police. The police didn't enter some areas without telling the bandits before. Strange seeing armed bandits in one corner and 150 metres away some PMs eating icecream or acai. Very unpleasant waking up at night with machinegun fire outside in the alley, knowing that the brick walls are no life insurance. Just grab my GF and roll down on the floor.
Isn't that a bit rare that they let you spend time together with locals? I spoke with a fellow countryman who spent time in Bangú, drug trafficking. He told me the gringos had their own "wing" and that it was quite decent. São Paulo even has a prison just for gringos, Penitenciária de Itaí. Interesting that 70% of the 1165 prisoners are Nigerians.
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05-24-21 00:49 #1297
Posts: 1104Originally Posted by BrasilNut [View Original Post]
Originally Posted by BrasilNut [View Original Post]
As I've said before things aren't as black and white as some would like to think.
Foot soldiers and "alleged / suspected" criminals in the favelas, most often don't get arrested and the benefit of the doubt. Just a bullet to the head and dirty police acting as judge, jury and executioner. Basically political fodder and low-hanging fruit.
Now will the real "thugs", "criminals" and "gangsters", please stand up...please stand up...please stand up?
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05-23-21 19:16 #1296
Posts: 1104Captain Solo, adventures in Foz do Iquacu...
Originally Posted by CaptainSolo [View Original Post]
Very informative. Thank you and thanks for sharing your hot pics.
BTW, was this a recent trip? Or over a number of years?
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05-23-21 18:31 #1295
Posts: 1104Originally Posted by Sperto [View Original Post]
Originally Posted by Sperto [View Original Post]
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05-23-21 18:23 #1294
Posts: 16"Regarding the gangs in northeast and north are only armed with 38's and shotguns, that's incorrect. ".
Sperto is pretty much spot on about the militias. I'm not incorrect about the guns though. There are still favelas in Rio that only have pistols and shotguns and that's Rio so there's no question smaller cities are like that. They might have one fully auto for the whole favela. It comes down to money, allocation of resources, and threat assessment. I know a boss who had about 8 favelas. He used to have a piece of Complexo do Lins which was armed to the teeth. Most of his favelas were Baixada (Caxias) and it was exactly like I stated. Pistols, shotguns, maybe a couple WWII relics and one AR-15. But that's a lot to somebody with just a. 22. Or a knife LOL. A Fal or HK G3 is going for $60 - $80 k and they aren't going in the hands of just anybody. I've seen cops enter favelas Baixada in just a blazer. Nowhere in ZN is that happening, only Caveiraos. And I'm not sure who said what but 90% of bandidos in favelas don't have a pot to piss in. Everything gets kicked up to the top. Most guys are getting $300-$400 a week and the perk of parading around with a gun during the weekly baile. That's literally what they're risking their lives for. They just want to "tira onda com as novinhas".
Now to me, milicianos are the scum of the earth. Sperto is right, they're the spawn of their death squad fathers and uncles who were apart of the dictatorship regime. Brasil became a democracy but those guys still had political ties which protected them and allowed them to flourish. Their main game is extortion in one form or another but they'll happily do murder for hire as well. I did time in Rio and cops / milicianos had their own gallery. I couldn't even tell you how many were over there but it was a lot. I was talking to a bicheiro (jogo de bicho boss) who slept in the bunk in front of me and remember him telling me there were cops there that he knew for a fact had committed over 100 murders. And this was from a guy who dealt with dirty cops on a daily basis. They were basically his enforcers / security. Rio is a trip when it comes to crime. It's like an onion, every time you peel back a layer there's more, more, more.