Rio de Janeiro - Crime & Safety

[Java Man]

I'm seeing more homeless and beggars in Rio now. And the Beggars are more brazen. They come up to you more often. They're watching when you're buying something, (for example, at a kiosk, or an open suco shop,) and approach you when you get your change. Last week I saw a guy get his phone snatched. He was sitting at one of those ubiquitous sidewalk restaurant bars. Dude came up and snatched it from his hands and took off running. I'm wary of sitting on the sidewalk at those places. But even sitting inside is no protection from the beggars. Last week, a female beggar walk inside and asked me for some change. WTF. Be aware of your surroundings, and keep your head on a swivel.

[UniversalX]

http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/...094&viewfull=1#post2797094

http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/...874&viewfull=1#post2796874.

http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/...951&viewfull=1#post2796951.

http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/...957&viewfull=1#post2796957.

http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/...029&viewfull=1#post2797029.

http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/...042&viewfull=1#post2797042.
This was a targeted hit not anything for general tourist to fear. The victim even had an ankle monitor.

[Sperto]

Boa noite cinderela is nasty. You should always keep an eye on your drink. I've met several gringos who got robbed by GPS (and some times their BFs) using boa noite cinderela. Recently I saw a brazilian documentary about women who told they put some stuff (I forgot the name) on their breast. They told guys to lick their nipples and the victims passed out. I also remember another scary reportage done with GPS and TVs in Lapa. One HIV positive traveca told the reporter that he used to look for gringos partying in Lapa, slip them a boa noite cinderela. Then helping them to a nearby motel where the gringo got robbed and sometimes f*cked in the ass.

[Rio Bob]

Recently was browsing Tripadvisor Hilton reviews. Unlike Colombia's Devil's breath, never heard about something like that happening in Brazil. Don't think this is common, but be careful out there.

In my experience, it's not easy to sneak even a nicely-dressed girl past Hilton's security without a registration. But if those thugs were presentable I can see it happen.

Many years ago when Help was open I always had an apartment on the next corner. It was common then as it is still now the Boa Noite Cinderella. I had a girl come into my apartment, I made drinks maybe I went to the mens room and left mine unattended but when I entered the apartment I pulled the key from the double bolt lock unbeknownst to the girl and hid it so nobody was leaving unless they had the key. We proceeded to foreplay and I fell out like a rock, very unusual for me. Next thing I remember was waking up the next morning with a splitting headache and she was wide awake, looked like she was coked up, she told me she wanted to leave and she couldn't because there was no key LOL. Nothing was taken but I was so shot I couldn't remember where the key was so I couldn't let her out we were both stuck in the apartment. I called the maid / manager who lived 1 hour outside of Copa and told her I'll pay for a taxi to come to Copa and let us out, she did, I found the key 3 days later in the safe.

They all take stuff from the apartment, shampoo, lighters, cork screws, cigarettes, condoms etc but never got anything of value including money. Recently I was partying to 8 in the morning and fell out, she went through everything in my apartment but didn't take anything, she never found the money and if she did it was pretty secure, the next day she told me she went through everything in my apartment. Best approach to this is to hide the key and they can't take anything but remember where you put it.

[Xpartan]

How did they know the room number? Were they fool enough to also take the key jacket with the room number on it instead of just the key?

Boa noite Cinderella (although I think they actually meant Sleeping Beauty, but got the characters confused) used to happen a long time ago in Rio, but I have not heard of it recently.

Also I have not heard it happening to a couple in the street. They usually get a single guy alone in his apartment. It also says we. They were able to spike both people's drinks at the same time and it took effect at the same time?

Some things from that review do sound strange to me, but they probably did have the card in the jacket, as plenty of people do. Can't be a fake, because judged by the Hilton response, the incident did take place, so they aren't lying, at least about that part. Also when the say "in the streets" could be a figure of speech. Maybe they meant a bar or club "in the streets" of Lapa.

[Mr Enternational]

Recently was browsing Tripadvisor Hilton reviews. Unlike Colombia's Devil's breath, never heard about something like that happening in Brazil.

How did they know the room number? Were they fool enough to also take the key jacket with the room number on it instead of just the key?

Boa noite Cinderella (although I think they actually meant Sleeping Beauty, but got the characters confused) used to happen a long time ago in Rio, but I have not heard of it recently.

Also I have not heard it happening to a couple in the street. They usually get a single guy alone in his apartment. It also says we. They were able to spike both people's drinks at the same time and it took effect at the same time?

[Spidy]

... Apparently a type of kidnapping called "express kidnapping", is making an unwarranted accelerated comeback, given the struggles of many Brazilians during COVID-19 ...

Boa noite Cinderela. ... never heard about something like that happening in Brazil. Don't think this is common, but be careful out there ...

"Boa noite Cinderela", I haven't heard this particular crime, crop-up in a long time. Like express kidnapping, perhaps what was old is now new again?

[Xpartan]

Recently was browsing Tripadvisor Hilton reviews. Unlike Colombia's Devil's breath, never heard about something like that happening in Brazil. Don't think this is common, but be careful out there.

My husband and I were looking forward to our very first Carnaval in rio but it all went down the hill right on the 2 day of our stay.
We were victims of drink spiking in the streets of LAPA known in Brazil as "boa noite cinderela". The group then robbed our phones, wallets, money cash, rings and the hotel keys. With the keys they ( 3 of them ) right in the middle of the night ( 3 AM ) went to this HOsTEL walked past the 'securities""concierges"and went to our room. They packed whatever they saw as valuable and left ( 20 min later ) through the front door, and nobody asked them a thing, an ID or anything..

In my experience, it's not easy to sneak even a nicely-dressed girl past Hilton's security without a registration. But if those thugs were presentable I can see it happen.

[Mr Enternational]

If you're a foreign guy (and they can almost always recognize this regardless of color / race), the locals guys generally don't appreciate you fucking "their" women. Would you appreciate if a bunch of foreigners showed up in your city giving girls a month's salary (for them) to bone? As you said, it's mostly jealousy, but a lot of them would be happy to relieve us of some of our riches.

This is BS. What local guys? The local guys you are sitting around in 4 x 4? The local guys that fall through Mabs?

Me and my normal nurse girl just came back from Marechal. You mean the local guys there that we were standing in line with to eat saw me as a foreigner fucking their girl and figured I must be giving her 1 month salary? Come on man. This is an old mongers tale. Nobody thinks this except for mongers. Nobody gives a shit who you are with or why you are with them.

And they most certainly do not see you as being with "their women." And this goes double for chicks you are paying that they have been fucking all their lives for free. Nobody gets jealous that somebody is paying a hooker.

[Combo]

Diverging from the racism aspect, this is a noteworthy point that a lot of mongers don't realize. If you're a foreign guy (and they can almost always recognize this regardless of color / race), the locals guys generally don't appreciate you fucking "their" women. Would you appreciate if a bunch of foreigners showed up in your city giving girls a month's salary (for them) to bone? As you said, it's mostly jealousy, but a lot of them would be happy to relieve us of some of our riches.

Absolutely! In the case of Brazil, it's people of color will ALWAYS tend to suffer more, at the hands of an unjust, racist society and police force.



Look, no disrespect or am I trying to belittle your encounters with racism. But both your examples are what I would consider, on the lower end of the "racist spectrum" and IMHO, barely registers as racism.

Most foreign men will get "angry looks" or strange menacing looks, when walking in public, down the street hand-in-hand with a younger woman. Especially when they are of a different racial complexion, ethnic background, physical dissimilarities and/or of significant age difference. (As an aside: I always think, many of those same "angry looks" are just looks of jealousy and envy. But that's just me).

If "angry looks", is all you ever get and you've never been physically harmed (and you've said you have never been robbed) then thank your lucky stars.

In contrast, on the other end of the "racist spectrum", is a beating, excessive force, brutality, a killing, murder and death.

Take the example of Mose Mugenyi Kabagambe, a young, newly settled immigrant worker, from Democratic Republic of Congo, who was recently (04-Feb-2022) beaten to DEATH, after he went to petition his employer, to demand R$200 reais (28) in unpaid wages from the seaside bar where he had worked informally as a waiter.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...-murder-racism

As the article mentions: "A supreme court judge, Gilmar Mendes, said the deplorable scenes of hatred and barbarity exposed the dangers of intolerance, racism and xenophobia."

Point of notice, the incident happen in "safe" Barra de Tijuca, where Pres. Bozo, owns a home a few minutes walk from the murder scene and coincidentally remained silent on the incident, where the neighborhood thugs in Barra de Tijuca, beat the man to death.

There's a horrible saying in Brazil, that goes: If you don't know if you're black in Brazil, just ask the police"

[Bearsi]

Good question!

I don't have any personal insight w/r to your question and wasn't aware there was a kidnapping problem, in Brazil and thought that was primarily a Mexican phenomenon.

Just realized it's quite the "cottage industry", complete with it's own celebrity plastic surgeons, to patch kidnapped victims, back together again. Especially their ears. Pretty gruesome!

Apparently a type of kidnapping called "express kidnapping", is making an unwarranted accelerated comeback, given the struggles of many Brazilians during COVID-19.

Wikipedia: Express kidnappings, is a method of abduction where a small immediate ransom is demanded, often by the victim being forced to withdraw money from their ATM account.

Express kidnappings are common in major cities including Rio de Janeiro, So Paulo, Braslia, Curitiba, Porto Alegre, Salvador and Recife.

https://gsi.s-rminform.com/articles/...form-in-brazil

Kidnappers don't seem to be targeting foreigners (doubt they'd care either way), as far as I can tell, but I've found no hard evidence/data, to back this up.

Something to Consider:

Since these threads are often overlooked, should you still require more input on the subject of Kidnapping, consider posting a brief post in the RJ, SP or General Info threads, saying something to the effect "Kidnapping question in the Rio de Janeiro - Crime & Safety, anyone with info on the subject...etc"

It's a nice touch to include the link to your post, to make it easier for those wanting to reply here, in the appropriate thread.

So far I've seen most crime done on tourists is just a simple grab and dash a cellphone from your hands.

Had a friend said that they took his iphone and they were able to get it unlocked in 30 minutes.

So best to keep your burner phone with minimal data on it they can use to access your accounts.

Brazilians aren't as wild as cartels.

And even cartels don't mess too much on tourists if they don't need to as it brings alot of unwanted heat.

Just saw this the other day actually.

https://uberhumor.com/these-tourists...9-press-unmute

This is a good point to meet in a mall or have them come to your hotel where you have security and are not in danger.

There was also a article posted recently about an american judge who got two GPS to come to his hotel room and two guys dressed as police men came to shake him down and kidnapped him for ransom.

So always do your due diligence and listen to your gut feelings.

[Spidy]

A Brazilian friend of mine sent me a warning. She said, "if you go on a date in Brazil, meet at a shopping mall or somewhere in public.

Now they are scheduling a date and when you get there they kidnap you and get you to transfer all your money to them. ".

Has anyone heard of this happening?

Good question!

I don't have any personal insight w/r to your question and wasn't aware there was a kidnapping problem, in Brazil and thought that was primarily a Mexican phenomenon.

Just realized it's quite the "cottage industry", complete with it's own celebrity plastic surgeons, to patch kidnapped victims, back together again. Especially their ears. Pretty gruesome!

Apparently a type of kidnapping called "express kidnapping", is making an unwarranted accelerated comeback, given the struggles of many Brazilians during COVID-19.

Wikipedia: Express kidnappings, is a method of abduction where a small immediate ransom is demanded, often by the victim being forced to withdraw money from their ATM account.

Express kidnappings are common in major cities including Rio de Janeiro, So Paulo, Braslia, Curitiba, Porto Alegre, Salvador and Recife.

https://gsi.s-rminform.com/articles/...form-in-brazil

Kidnappers don't seem to be targeting foreigners (doubt they'd care either way), as far as I can tell, but I've found no hard evidence/data, to back this up.

Something to Consider:

Since these threads are often overlooked, should you still require more input on the subject of Kidnapping, consider posting a brief post in the RJ, SP or General Info threads, saying something to the effect "Kidnapping question in the Rio de Janeiro - Crime & Safety, anyone with info on the subject...etc"

It's a nice touch to include the link to your post, to make it easier for those wanting to reply here, in the appropriate thread.

[DustyRode]

A Brazilian friend of mine sent me a warning. She said, "if you go on a date in Brazil, meet at a shopping mall or somewhere in public.

Now they are scheduling a date and when you get there they kidnap you and get you to transfer all your money to them. ".

Has anyone heard of this happening?

[The Cane]

Absolutely! In the case of Brazil, it's people of color will ALWAYS tend to suffer more, at the hands of an unjust, racist society and police force. Look, no disrespect or am I trying to belittle your encounters with racism. But both your examples are what I would consider, on the lower end of the "racist spectrum" and IMHO, barely registers as racism.

I mean, I couldn't have said it better. He "sacrificed" himself to get some "negra buceta" Really? OMFG! LMBAO! LOLOLOL!

[Spidy]

... Of course racism exist in Brazil and those with darker skin color suffers more.

Absolutely! In the case of Brazil, it's people of color will ALWAYS tend to suffer more, at the hands of an unjust, racist society and police force.

...However, racism goes both ways. Twice in Brazil I've felt people disliking my "white" color (quite silly to say white as nobody has white skin color, paper is white).

The first time was when I was invited to a birthday party at the home of a girl I was dating when studying at PUC. The girl was one of the few black students at PUC (and as a side note she hade huge natural tits, among the best tits I ever seen). I wasn't really interested to go to the birthday party at her home, but as she was very hot and I wanted to take her virginity I sacrificed myself. Everyone at the party were black upper class people, doctors, dentist, lawyers etc. When my GF brought me to the party everyone were polite but obviously not satisfied with her BF being white and also a gringo. The second time was in Salvador. I met a absolutely stunningly beautiful and tall girl. She was very dark black. This girl also lost her virginity to me and was really romantic and wanted to walk hand-in-hand everywhere we went. She caught a lot of attention when walking on the streets. We walked together during the carnival in Salvador. The majority of the the pipoca were black people. Lots of gangs with thug looking guys. I got a lot of really angry looks from those guys who obviously didn't appreciate a white gringo walking together with a very hot black girl.

Look, no disrespect or am I trying to belittle your encounters with racism. But both your examples are what I would consider, on the lower end of the "racist spectrum" and IMHO, barely registers as racism.

Most foreign men will get "angry looks" or strange menacing looks, when walking in public, down the street hand-in-hand with a younger woman. Especially when they are of a different racial complexion, ethnic background, physical dissimilarities and/or of significant age difference. (As an aside: I always think, many of those same "angry looks" are just looks of jealousy and envy. But that's just me).

If "angry looks", is all you ever get and you've never been physically harmed (and you've said you have never been robbed) then thank your lucky stars.

In contrast, on the other end of the "racist spectrum", is a beating, excessive force, brutality, a killing, murder and death.

Take the example of Mose Mugenyi Kabagambe, a young, newly settled immigrant worker, from Democratic Republic of Congo, who was recently (04-Feb-2022) beaten to DEATH, after he went to petition his employer, to demand R$200 reais (£28) in unpaid wages from the seaside bar where he had worked informally as a waiter.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...-murder-racism

As the article mentions: "A supreme court judge, Gilmar Mendes, said the deplorable scenes of hatred and barbarity exposed the dangers of intolerance, racism and xenophobia."

Point of notice, the incident happen in "safe" Barra de Tijuca, where Pres. Bozo, owns a home a few minutes walk from the murder scene and coincidentally remained silent on the incident, where the neighborhood thugs in Barra de Tijuca, beat the man to death.

There's a horrible saying in Brazil, that goes: If you don't know if you're black in Brazil, just ask the police"