Rio de Janeiro - Crime & Safety

[Java Man]

Sperto:
I was looking for Fernanda's pic, Odia had it, but I couldn't find it later.
How did you find it?
Lukasek:
This was a robbery that turned deadly. I suspect Fernanda was going to play the victim, and keep dating Hirschi. It turned deadly when he resisted.
I was under the impression that most robberies in Rio occur at knife point as knives are easier to get. In order to get the firearm, the robber has to get "approval" from one of Rio's gangs.

I found another video report on terra.com. They have an interview of Fernanda and pic of the shooter Ariana, aka Lu, (attractive, but deadly!)
These two look familiar to anyone here? Maybe Mab's or Balcony's garotas.

Terra is reporting that 3 shots were fired. The Fatal shot hit Hirschi under his right arm and went out the left side of his back, puncturing his lungs in the process.

They're also reporting that Fernanda and Ariana were/are lovers. (Anyone surprised?)

once the link opens, click Video above Fernanda's pic :
http://noticias.terra.com.br/brasil/....html#tarticle

[Marcop 12]

Java Man thanks for share this with us ! It is good to be aware that things like this happens.

Thanks Sperto for the link of her face.

They wrote the flat was in avenida princesa isabela, it seems is where the flats have two entrance, one from princ-isab and one from prado junior right ? Cause for 1 week i stayed there in january the first time I arrived here.

Real a poor guy, help 6 months a girl and get a end like this.

Do you think they also planned in advance to kill him or it just happened once he used the spray ?

Yeah thanks Java for the link, it pays to beware these gangsta chics are more than capable of murder to get their hands on anything from money to goods anything that can be turned into money.

Although this was a long term thing the guy was caught up in theres no reason it couldnt have been a one night deal that went wrong, if no screening or too drunk to notice or care anything can happen!

I doubt she intended to kill but more than likely didnt have a plan at all! and could only see $$$ but that said armed with a loaded gun! But the fact remains you need to be on your guard with all GDPs to a degree if their given half a chance regardless of how nice or trusting you think they are, an opertunity to lift a camera or cell phone and its gone - to the next extreme calling in amigos & amigas being involved in some sort of robbery.

But 100% extra vigilance on certain types ie crack heads and the like.

It could be possible the 'girlfiend' was also threatened by the other or didnt realise the extent of what was going to happen or getting herself involved in or she was in it upto her neck and set the whole thing up with her gagsta chic buddy, one thing sounds possible she gave the name of her friend to police i doubt they got a good enough photo-fit from the security camera to identify and name.

Not a pleasant ending for the guy or family but demonstrates the need for screening and who your getting involved in.

[Eros74]

Java Man thanks for share this with us ! It is good to be aware that things like this happens.

Thanks Sperto for the link of her face.

They wrote the flat was in avenida princesa isabela, it seems is where the flats have two entrance, one from princ-isab and one from prado junior right ? Cause for 1 week i stayed there in january the first time I arrived here.

Real a poor guy, help 6 months a girl and get a end like this....

Do you think they also planned in advance to kill him or it just happened once he used the spray ?

[Sperto]

09/17/09
A retired 63 year old Swiss photographer and 2 year resident of Rio was setup for robbery by his GDP girlfriend of 6 months...

Poor guy. Having a long-term relationship with a Prado Junior-pro can only have a miserable ending. I hope both women will rot away in prison.

Here is how the GF looks like:
http://urutau.proderj.rj.gov.br/poli...80909_12dp.jpg

[Java Man]

09/17/09
A retired 63 year old Swiss photographer and 2 year resident of Rio was setup for robbery by his GDP girlfriend of 6 months. The swede lived in an apartment on Ave Princess Isabel. The GF Fernanda Silva Souza, 28 confessed to conspiring with her friend Ariana Gualberto Lessa, 25, to rob Gilbert Marcel Hirschi. They wanted to rob him of money and electronics.

Surveillance video shows Adriana following Fernanda and Gilbert into the building elevator and then forcing them into the apartment. Gilbert peppered sprayed Adriana and was shot in the back by Adriana. Police suspect Gilbert died believing he was protecting Fernanda, not knowing she was an accomplice.

Fernanda initially pretended to be a victim, but neighboring residents overheard Fernanda and Adriana arguing, with one of them stating: "What are we going to do now?" and informed police.

Gilbert Marcel Hirschi had supported Fernanda and her son the last 6 months.

Police stated Adriana has ties to traffickers in Rocinha and was know to give unsuspecting mongers the knockout drug, Boa Noite Cinderella.

Video also shows Adriana fleeing the scene. Adriana is currently a fugitive.

http://oglobo.globo.com/rio/mat/2009...-767673499.asp

http://g1.globo.com/Noticias/Brasil/...CO+NO+RIO.html
Video:
http://odia.terra.com.br/portal/rio/...ico_35922.html

[Rio Bob]

That's ironical. Two law graduates spending time in brazilian jail accused of insurance fraud.
http://oglobo.globo.com/rio/mat/2009...-757071729.asp

That must have been a different experience spending some time in Mesquita and Bangu prison. "Mum, there are no beds to sleep in..."

Frauds like this one makes the crime statistics in Brazil look even worse than it already is.

Looks like they may get 8 months of community service instead of time in a crowded rio prison.

[Jan 156]

If you are familiar with the film Tropa de Elite, you will recall the gangster cremation of one of the witnesses. Yesterday, police investigated the site of one such execution site at Favela Vila Vintém. Police found 4 charred bodies which they believe to be members of rival gangs.

http://oglobo.globo.com/rio/fotogaleria/2009/9570/

Executed by rival gangs or by police squads from another precinct?

[Poucolouco]

If you are familiar with the film Tropa de Elite, you will recall the gangster cremation of one of the witnesses. Yesterday, police investigated the site of one such execution site at Favela Vila Vintém. Police found 4 charred bodies which they believe to be members of rival gangs.

http://oglobo.globo.com/rio/fotogaleria/2009/9570/

[Jan 156]

They should spend some time in prison for being so stupid...the funny part is that when they go back to the UK they will not be able to practice law with a conviction for fraud....

Not all students want to practice law. There's many law careers that don't involve the Bar.

[July Gan]

Is that a fact? I did not think foreign convictions would have any effect.

if the conviction (foreign or uk) was for assault or something violent, it would not matter. "disonest" type convictions wherever means no legal career...

[Edward M]

They should spend some time in prison for being so stupid...the funny part is that when they go back to the UK they will not be able to practice law with a conviction for fraud....

Is that a fact? I did not think foreign convictions would have any effect.

[Poucolouco]

That's ironical. Two law graduates spending time in brazilian jail accused of insurance fraud.
http://oglobo.globo.com/rio/mat/2009...-757071729.asp

That must have been a different experience spending some time in Mesquita and Bangu prison. "Mum, there are no beds to sleep in..."

Frauds like this one makes the crime statistics in Brazil look even worse than it already is.

This news report is totally lacking in discussion of the time frame and important elements of this story. The so-called ‘luggage trick’ insurance scam sounds a bit fishy to me. They say they were robbed on a bus, losing possessions worth £1,300. Travel insurance luggage claims generally are not reimbursed for 90 days to 6 months, yet Brasilian detectives claim four items supposedly stolen were found in their lockers at a youth hostel. Where’s the rest of the story?

According to commenters on the following report, false insurance claims seem to be a popular indiscretion for Britts. I hope they have high standards for admittance to the bar in the UK.
http://www.nowpublic.com/world/brit-...d-fraud-brazil

[July Gan]

That's ironical. Two law graduates spending time in brazilian jail accused of insurance fraud.
http://oglobo.globo.com/rio/mat/2009...-757071729.asp

That must have been a different experience spending some time in Mesquita and Bangu prison. "Mum, there are no beds to sleep in..."

Frauds like this one makes the crime statistics in Brazil look even worse than it already is.

They should spend some time in prison for being so stupid...the funny part is that when they go back to the UK they will not be able to practice law with a conviction for fraud....

[Sperto]

[url]...Apparently they claimed they were robbed on a bus but police found the stolen items at their hostel. They are out on bail but facing 5 years.

That's ironical. Two law graduates spending time in brazilian jail accused of insurance fraud.
http://oglobo.globo.com/rio/mat/2009/08/01/turistas-inglesas-acusadas-de-golpe-deixam-presidio-no-rio-757071729.asp

That must have been a different experience spending some time in Mesquita and Bangu prison. "Mum, there are no beds to sleep in..."

Frauds like this one makes the crime statistics in Brazil look even worse than it already is.

[Edward M]

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/ar...g-parents.html

Apparently they claimed they were robbed on a bus but police found the stolen items at their hostel. They are out on bail but facing 5 years.