Rio de Janeiro - Crime & Safety

[Sperto]

No one is stopping you from talking about pussy, in this thread...

Weird... I can't recall I wrote that I wanted to talk about pussy in this thread.

Made my remember a funk music made by MC Levin, "Buceta Criminosa"
It goes like:
"Cadê aquela mina da buceta criminosa
De tanto sentar assassinou a minha piroca
Assassinou, assassinou, assassinou minha piroca
Que buceta criminosa que prendeu o meu piru"

[Spidy]

Yes, R$ 1 bilho spent by bandits in RJ during 4 years. You can do your research how much the bandits in all of Brazil spend on arms every year. I'm more interested in p*ssy than arms.

This after all is the Rio de Janeiro Crime & Safety thread, which may involve pussy at times and at times it may not. It's easy enough to figure that out.

No one is stopping you from talking about pussy, in this thread, if that's were the conversation takes you. Carry on...Enjoy!

[Vagabundo1]

As is written in s1 e1 of Generation Kill.

Look at this shit. How come.

We can't ever invade a cool country.

Like chicks in bikinis, you know?

How come countries like.

That don't ever need Marines?

I'll tell you why.

It's lack of pussy.

That fucks countries up.

Lack of pussy is the root fucking.

Cause of all global instability.

If more hajis were.

Getting quality pussy.

There'd be no reason for us to come.

Over here and fuck them up like this.

'cause a nut-busted.

Haji is a happy haji.

I'm more interested in p*ssy than arms.

[The Tall Man]

HelloIm,

For crimes you should look for reliable stats on crimes rates in each city, but you must have read lots of violent crimes in Rio and Sao Paolo. My local friends in both cities were scared stiff of local crimes.

I met a bro in Rio. He was working for the US gov, been to Rio and Brazil many times, had friends and family locally. He and I went to the Carnaval together. Among the big crowd of tens of thousands people exiting on the way back, he insisted we wait for a taxi driven by a friend with his family. He would not get in an unknown taxi. There were reports of mongers robbed by drivers when taking bar girls home.

Big cities have more people and bigger crowd, but also more criminals. One rainy night I nearly got robbed right outside the fancy hotel Copacabana. My feelings are that people, even in nicer parts of Rio, are cold and hardened. If you get stabbed to death on the street they would probably not intervene. I pulled a couple escorts, bar girls, disco girls, street girls in Rio. They were hard-assed ghetto types. Got into a fight in the apartment after sex with a street girl from Barbarella. She was screaming, flinging her arms, demanding more money. Had to push her out and call security. She was screaming and cursing down the street hehe. My Brazilian monger friend suggested I go to smaller towns down South for nicer, light-skinned girls, and North near the equator for darker skin and spicier girls. Rio's garbage, grimes, crowd, noise, dirt, homeless people ect just took all the fun and warm feelings out of my visit.

I took a cheap vacation to Foz do Iquacu from BS As, only $250 for airfare, 3 nights hotel near down town including buffet lunch. Iquacu is a nice, clean small jungle town nestled between Brazil. Argentina and Paraguay, a beautiful, green, pristine tropical vacation spot with the largest water falls in the world with tens thousands tourists everyday. The pace was slow and relaxing; people were nice, warm fun, happy, engaging and there were lots of very beautiful girls working local casas. Had a very good and sexy time in Iquacu.

Hotel staff did warn me to be careful where I go as some neighborhoods are rough and boys may hold knives to my throat and take my wallet, But the town was so nice, clean, green, quiet, peaceful and beautiful. I could not stop walking all over town with a fork in my pocket as strategic deterrence hehe..

Captain, for the past 20 years we are like 2 ships passing in the night, so much time in Tijuana and now me living in Medellin for over 3 years and I too am planning another visit to Brazil when the virus subsides, and our choice in girls is identical, your like a brother from another mother as the saying goes.

I could fall in love with any of these chicas that you posted so I got to be careful heheheh.

Much love and respect to all!

The Tall Man.

[Vagabundo1]

Senor Sperto again is very funny.

These trends go back to Jose Anchieta, ser the deniro film the mission, or more recently tropa de elite.

Now let's get back to pussy.

The killing will take care of itself.

[Sperto]

According to the report, this was the amount "spent" by criminal organizations, was for the entire State of Rio de Janeiro and was over the last four years. Not just last year.

Yes, R$ 1 bilhão spent by bandits in RJ during 4 years. You can do your research how much the bandits in all of Brazil spend on arms every year. I'm more interested in p*ssy than arms.

[Spidy]

Last year they bought weapons for R$1 bilho.

According to the report, this was the amount "spent" by criminal organizations, was for the entire State of Rio de Janeiro and was over the last four years. Not just last year.

[Sperto]

Where did you get that number, R$1 billion?

If you're in doubt you should try Google (about 7 seconds).
https://odia.ig.com.br/rio-de-janeir...com-armas.html
https://www.meiahora.com.br/geral/20...com-armas.html

[Spidy]

How is crime in smaller cities VS Rio/SP. So after asking this question, I've gotten "mixed" answers I would say, regarding the safety of smaller cities vs Rio/SP . . .

Not sure why you thought your answers were mixed. Even so, with mixed answers, which means there isn't a consensus, would lend someone to simply just draw their own conclusions, from the mixed reviews BMs gave you.

Most BMs, that answered your post, seem to think it was fairly safe or never had any problems, but to use common sense and be mindful and sensible w/r to your surroundings, no matter where you are.

Look if you're looking for guarantees, there are none. Crime can be found everywhere in Brazil, just like most places in the US or Europe.

I think your question was answered here:

I would say there is close to a 0% chance. The main place that you need to look out in is Rio. The rest of Brazil is nothing like it and most people from other cities are even afraid to go there. The rest of Brazil is nowhere near as dangerous or favela-y. It is pretty laid back and quiet. Of the tons of cities that I have been to in Brazil, Maceio sticks out as one of my favorites and I could see myself living there.

And here:

. . .Perhaps a bit puzzling to decipher, why smaller cities have high crime rates, than RJ / SP, but make of it, what you will.

My personal experiences staying in many of these "smaller cities", has been all good, except for the major fluctuations in talent / action from time to time.

And here:

I believe any big city in Brazil has dangers lurking around when a vacationing gringo is walking down the street without a worry in the world. . . .

And here:

In general the brazilian capitals in the north and northeast are more violent than Rio de Janeiro. Most of the major cities have favelas with the presence of all the usual criminal organizations. Your safety depends on where you go and when. Many of these capitals have centros that are perfectly safe during daytime but are deserted and dangerous at nighttime. Some of the capitals have touristic bairros where you can feel quite safe at night. In 31 years I've never been mugged in Brazil. I think you could feel safe as long as you use common sense. On the other hand if you walk into the wrong street and are unlucky you might get robbed.

And now, even testimony from a BM, that will ONLY do smaller towns. No too mention pictures of the hot action to be found said smaller towns, like in Foz do Iquacu:

. . . I would come back to Iquacu and other small towns when I am in South America, but never Rio or Sao Paolo again.

Clear enough now? That said there are still no guarantees.

[Spidy]

Regarding their weapons. The gangs do have very large pots to piss in. Last year they bought weapons for R$1 bilho. Some are stolen/bought from police/soldiers but the majority are smuggled from Paraguay.

Regarding the gangs in northeast and north are only armed with 38s and shotguns, that's uncorrect.

Where did you get that number, R$1 billion? And what is the makeup / breakdown of that number? (ie. , Rio, SP, the whole of Brazil?).

Because I assert they (favela foot soldiers) "don't have a pot to piss-in", would suggest that, the number you quote (R$1 billion), is just a some kind of "market / street value", of Contraband weapons that were seized and the bulk of this value, is most likely stolen from police caches or those given by dirty-police and politicians (as you have stated), in exchange for payment at a later date, via bank heists or drug trafficking or from other criminal activities.

Basically, it doesn't mean they had the upfront cash / money to pay for said weapons. Unless these favela foot soldiers, have secret Brazilian / Swiss bank accounts, that we don't know about.

If there are reports detailing the cash payments were made in the transactions related to acquiring the said $1 billion in contraband weapons, I would love to see it.

"...Schethtman, who reportedly holds American, British and Israeli citizenship, was being investigated for selling weapons and explosives which were used in bank robberies carried out by criminal groups in Rio de Janeiro, cops said..."

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...iro-gangs.html

Crooked, dirty politicians and dirty police, 'El Gringo' American arms dealers, begs the question, "Will the real criminals please stand up, please stand up?".

The only difference is that, dirty politicians, dirty police and 'El Gringo' American arms dealers, are given the presumption of innocent until proven guilty and are arrested and taken into custody and have "allegedly committed the crime". Not so much for those 25 massacred and multiple others severely injured at Jacarezinho.

"...At least 25 people were killed early on Thursday when police raided Jacarezinho, on Rio de Janeiros north side, in an operation police said targeted a gang suspected of recruiting children and teenagers."

https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...ce-raid-deaths

Gangs "suspected" of recruiting children and teenagers, is nothing new to police and nothing to get murdered and massacred over.

[Captain Solo]

HelloIm,

For crimes you should look for reliable stats on crimes rates in each city, but you must have read lots of violent crimes in Rio and Sao Paolo. My local friends in both cities were scared stiff of local crimes.

I met a bro in Rio. He was working for the US gov, been to Rio and Brazil many times, had friends and family locally. He and I went to the Carnaval together. Among the big crowd of tens of thousands people exiting on the way back, he insisted we wait for a taxi driven by a friend with his family. He would not get in an unknown taxi. There were reports of mongers robbed by drivers when taking bar girls home.

Big cities have more people and bigger crowd, but also more criminals. One rainy night I nearly got robbed right outside the fancy hotel Copacabana. My feelings are that people, even in nicer parts of Rio, are cold and hardened. If you get stabbed to death on the street they would probably not intervene. I pulled a couple escorts, bar girls, disco girls, street girls in Rio. They were hard-assed ghetto types. Got into a fight in the apartment after sex with a street girl from Barbarella. She was screaming, flinging her arms, demanding more money. Had to push her out and call security. She was screaming and cursing down the street hehe. My Brazilian monger friend suggested I go to smaller towns down South for nicer, light-skinned girls, and North near the equator for darker skin and spicier girls. Rio's garbage, grimes, crowd, noise, dirt, homeless people ect just took all the fun and warm feelings out of my visit.

I took a cheap vacation to Foz do Iquacu from BS As, only $250 for airfare, 3 nights hotel near down town including buffet lunch. Iquacu is a nice, clean small jungle town nestled between Brazil. Argentina and Paraguay, a beautiful, green, pristine tropical vacation spot with the largest water falls in the world with tens thousands tourists everyday. The pace was slow and relaxing; people were nice, warm fun, happy, engaging and there were lots of very beautiful girls working local casas. Had a very good and sexy time in Iquacu.

Hotel staff did warn me to be careful where I go as some neighborhoods are rough and boys may hold knives to my throat and take my wallet, But the town was so nice, clean, green, quiet, peaceful and beautiful. I could not stop walking all over town with a fork in my pocket as strategic deterrence hehe.

Struck a deal with a young taxi driver in front of the hotel. He drove me all over Iquacu, both Brazil and Argentina sides plus Paraguay for a fixed day rate. He also drove me to many local casas each with 5 to 8 local girls in dresses, not very glammy but nice, clean, tight, sexy, like the girl with braces. Took them back to the hotel, had very good times partying with multiple pops for about $50.

The girl in red was from another state, working at Krystal, an upscale club about 5 miles out of town. She was beautiful but had a fishy odor. Even after washing it spoiled my mood.

Girl in blue top was working in a clothing shop downtown. There are many beautiful civie girls working in shops in downtown Iquacu. Looked like they were open for relationships just to get out of that little town hehe. There also lots of single women tourists from Argentina and Europe wanting to party.

I would come back to Iquacu and other small towns when I am in South America, but never Rio or Sao Paolo again.

[HelloIm]

So after asking this question, I've gotten "mixed" answers I would say, regarding the safety of smaller cities vs Rio / SP.

If I have to weigh in, once again from someone that hasn't been to South America yet, but travelled to other places in the world. IMO, bigger cities are usually safer. I mean more people = more opportunities for crime right? But you also get more local people, more tourists, so there's definitely an aura of "protection".

In smaller cities, I imagine you might get pickpocketed in a busy area, but you could stand out, and they might even target you for bigger crimes.

This is my train of thought when considering visiting smaller cities in which I don't speak the language, or look like the locals. Wondering if anyone else can weigh in more on this, pertaining to Brazil.

[Vagabundo1]

See Kilcullen, Öut of the Mountains" -- the book.

https://www.amazon.com/Out-of-Mounta...1439593&sr=8-2

Megacities (10 m+ souls) are shaped like O or you, with a state controlled middle or in the case of Rio, the rich zona sul on the coast and harbor, surrounded by a periphery that is governed by criminals, or the militias in question.

Rio (12 m), SP (20 m), on down the line (about 47 and counting) are all shaped the same.

Hookers are double, triple spys in these wars. The best girl at the former secret terma last reported her position from jacarizinho, the site of the police raid that whacked 25+ . I banged her. Player 3 banged her. When and if you have these hookers over pernoite, they are spying on the rich world gringos in the heart of the part of the city under the control of the state police.

This is where the action is in this century.

Milcias are mostly made up of police or soldiers, current or ex. Some say they have their roots in the old death squads.
Just like the bandits they control comunidades and drug traffic. They often have monopoly on selling gas and supplying water, charging high fees. The people living in the comunidades need to pay monthly fees for protection and other charges. If they don't pay, milcias give them trouble.
IMO the milcias are no better than the other criminal organizations. They are often more ruthless and violent.
One difference is that the milcias are more political involved. They have dirty politicians on their payroll.

Regarding their weapons. The gangs do have very large pots to piss in. Last year they bought weapons for R$1 bilho. Some are stolen/bought from police/soldiers but the majority are smuggled from Paraguay.
Regarding the gangs in northeast and north are only armed with 38s and shotguns, that's uncorrect.

[Sperto]

Just curious, though, any thoughts on the "milicianos" or dirty-cops, rampant throughout Brazil, as Brasil Nut points out and you've mentioned as "violent milcias"?

Milícias are mostly made up of police or soldiers, current or ex. Some say they have their roots in the old death squads.
Just like the bandits they control comunidades and drug traffic. They often have monopoly on selling gas and supplying water, charging high fees. The people living in the comunidades need to pay monthly fees for protection and other charges. If they don't pay, milícias give them trouble.
IMO the milícias are no better than the other criminal organizations. They are often more ruthless and violent.
One difference is that the milícias are more political involved. They have dirty politicians on their payroll.

Regarding their weapons. The gangs do have very large pots to piss in. Last year they bought weapons for R$1 bilhão. Some are stolen/bought from police/soldiers but the majority are smuggled from Paraguay.
Regarding the gangs in northeast and north are only armed with 38s and shotguns, that's uncorrect.

[Spidy]

There is an explaination why many cities in northeast amd north have very high murder rates. The last decades these regions had a quick economic growth.

Unfortunately the public security have not grown much. The police forces are way to small and the prisons are crowded.
During the last decade many of the criminal organizations have grown very strong in these regions. Besides the big ones like Comando Vermelho and Primeiro Comando da Capital there are also lots of others like Terceiro Comando Puro, Amigos dos Amigos, Famlia do Norte and many more local organizations. They fight over territory and control of the drug trafficing. These fights combined with understaffed PM and violent milcias creates chaos and results in many people being killed.

Thank you, this also is a very reasonable and plausible explanation for those wanting to know more about crime and safety in the northern regions.

Just curious, though, any thoughts on the "milicianos" or dirty-cops, rampant throughout Brazil, as Brasil Nut points out and you've mentioned as "violent milcias"?