Filipinas - Opinions and Advice

[Member #4387]

PP; for us not having to watch the bank 24/7, who cares. You seem like a friendly bloke.

[Pinaypounder]

A brief economics lesson.

My best friend there a lady with a PHD and published author (2 books) and who lead a University department, makes 65 k per month BEFORE TAXES.

A SKILLED Programmer / Software Developer in Manila makes 60 K BEFORE taxes.

A university educated CAll Center Girl in Manila or Cebu make 20 - 24 k per month BEFORE TAXES.

Taxes there are a whopping 32%, some of you can do the math!

Some of the guilt ridden white boys are now apparently paying 6 - 10 k a session or day lets assume its 6 k per day.

The pussy is availble 25 days a month so she is earning 150 K BEFORE TAXES plus meals and likely gifts.

In addition if the pussy is smart enough to extract that from you then she also likely has 1 - 4 men sending her money to be their GF. So tack on another 25 - 100 K per month plus gifts and water buffalo tragedies (unexpected of course). As a note I LOVE fucking your GFs and thank you for paying them not to work and making them SO available to me. The level of ignorance of men who send money to the phils is astounding.

I know of 1 English Clown who is paying an average looking and the woman is a horrible fuck lesbian 30 k a month so he can watch her 2 - 3 times a month fuk his mistress (lets see what does that work out to be on an hourly basis 30 k for 6 hours of sex a month = 5 k per HOUR) and she now does not work at a real job. This is in addition to the monies he pay his mistress and extremely avergae looking fat women who is married (yes that is indeed a tangled web).

So now the pussy is making 175 k to 250 K per month BEFORE Tax which puts the pussy in the highest 1 - 2% of earners in the phils. Hell that is 25% MORE than what an average FAMILY here in Canada makes a month.

But according to some of you here that is ok.

REALLY?

I go there allot and in March in MBC or LA cafe, AVERAGE and below average women wanted 3 k short time and they seemed content to go home alone. This REEKS of ineffective pricing.

Amateurs who I used to donate 1 - 2 k to for long time are now asking 4 k and they can not even get a job in Manila for 14 k a month working in a mall. And we all know this famous logical Filipina Pride. Most of the women I fuck now ACTUALLY love the fucking part (thats why I focus on the 30 to 40 years old, women who know why god gave them a pussy) because their typical filipino lover has a 4 inch, thin cock and cums in 2 - 4 minutes then leaves to go fuck his gf for anther 4 minutes.

Filipinas actually LOVE to FUCK and LOVE big WHITE COCK most of them I fuck to make them cum and give them 1 k for taxi.

Boys you should not overpay the dumbest horniest women on the planet it makes it hard for those of us who are not rich!

BRING BACK PERSPECTIVE and MAKE THEM EARN IT!

[MrWoolyBooly]

Greetings all,

This really is a relevant topic to us all, so I'll contribute my blather.

Pricing for puki (Pinay DNA intake valve) really needs to be segmented by circumstance, just like it does back home wherever that may be.

- Straight up nudie bar girls: This pricing should be easily trackable by the field reports or any regular visitor. I'm most familiar with Burgos, but even there I prefer to just make lots of contacts for hookups outside of working hours. When I'm just hanging around not horny I've even treated ladies to eat at Filling Station a couple times just for the company without introducing them to Wooly Jr.

- Other clear P4 P situations, such as Burgos St "massage", Robinsons Ermita hangers around, Havana Cafe, etc. These have pricing similarities to bar girls, but there is always a variation in the number and desperation level of the part-time or first time lady. This depends on when rent is due, how hungry the kids are, whether they have a place to sleep tonight, and countless other factors. If part-timers are excluded, pricing is pretty consistent. Part-timers range from desperately just need a place to sleep while hoping for more on one extreme to "I'll just 'magtambay' (hang around idly), but if an acceptable guy offers me $5 K for an hour or two I'd go for it," on the other.

- Online dating sites: There really is no rhyme or reason for their pricing that is visible to us without getting to know the ladies first. I've have had girls from ice cold to eager beavers and the other way around in just a few days. I didn't change. Something in their private circumstances must have. Of course the girls who ask for money up front are pros and will display much more coherent market pricing behavior, but still subject to their personal needs. Even the ones that provide friendship with benefits will hope and expect you to help them if you can when they have real financial troubles, no different than "back home".

For the visitor looking for straight P4 P, go, go, go. She'll negotiate as well as she can, we do the same, each influenced by whatever levels of need, horniness, charm, inebriation, and attractiveness are present at the moment.

For the guy who wants a bit of companionship between booms, it's a lot less predictable from true freebie to hooked a husband or supportive baby-daddy and everything in between.

[WestCoast1]

WC1, Doesn't look like price of poon has gone up that much over 10 years.

To make PP's argument, it appears that the price really has gone up. If you read thru the Manila thread about a decade ago (when the peso was 52-$1), the gents were giving 1500-2 K overnight, and some were complaining that the price had doubled (guess the argument never goes away). Gents here today are reporting giving amounts several times the previous amounts (even for ST), at a time when the exchange rate is about 45-$1.

Either way it is good value to me and that is all that matters.

1) I think that's what we want for everyone? And 2) the opposite point: that's what drives up prices in the long run.

Huts, thanks for the inflationary insight.

Caveat: I'm not suggesting to anyone, on the open board, what they should pay. Ask me in PM about my pricing structure and I'm glad to explain it (except for you, PP, as you are on my Ignore list, and I'm not sure you can be trusted with the PM function).

[Member #4387]

The price of poon is not tied to the inflation rate nor to any cost of living index. Nor is it tied to the minimum wage that some people use as a comparison. Sorry to tell you that the price of poon in not in the cost of living basket like milk and bread.

Many factors combine in the price of poon on any given day and given hour and location. More of market forces of supply and demand than anything else along with risk factors.

Without me beeing any expert in anyway (maybe ex getting girls to hook with me without any moneyrequirments whatsoever (ego boost I know)) I find DG's writings to sound about right. But maybe there will be difference in prices quoted upfront vs donation given after. My survey, a couple of trips ago, where I didn't pay the girls a single dime, told me that 0 p is possible in most cases dealing with normal girls. 0 to start with multiple with small rice in prices will still be 0. That is cruel in my opionion (if I looked for GF it wouldve been different though but I'm not). I guess the horrible rice in prices the latter years will affect only the working girl segment. And in my mind there is nothing differencing a prostitute with a girl quoting price upfront. Same same but maybe in different wrappings.

[Hutsori]

Doesn't look like price of poon has gone up that much over 10 years.

In 1992, when the FX rate was fixed at 25:1, I paid p500 for an AC barfine, so that's $20, and Manila girls were more. Santos Street's Blow Row was p250, IIRC. The inflation calculator for the US says that $20 in 1992 requires $34.11 today, which is p1570. Keep in mind the peso's value collapsed in 1997/98 during the Asian economic crisis.

Using CPI for Philippines the inflation rate between 1992 and 2014 is 212.62%, and the same period for the US is 68.7%.

[Dg8787]

WC1,

Doesn't look like price of poon has gone up that much over 10 years. 10 years ago the exchange rate was $1. 00 to 52.91 pesos. Of course the price of poon is paid in pesos so it does not affect the price in pesos to the girls but a 15% bonus in purchasing power to foreigners compared to today's rate.

Either way it is good value to me and that is all that matters.

Dg8787.

[WestCoast1]

Yes, you are off by a year. If you have ten total observations, you have only nine periods of change. So if you take the ninth root of 2 and subtract one, you get 8.00059739%. So if the price of pussy doubled in NINE years, that would be almost exactly an 8% constant annual rate of increase. Occasionally there will be government programs to combat illiteracy, but innumeracy is seldom mentioned. So, boys and girls, pay attention in math class!

Lesson learned! Lets call it 7%.

Just for fun, I went back 10 years in the Manila thread, to see what the gents were paying:

She was a great BBBJ girl, 22, cute, petite and was a great cowgirl too.
Was it 3 or 4 rounds of "waking up sex"? Left Victoria 9:30 am very awake and refreshed, gave my friend 1,500 PHP, and off i went to catch my transit flight. I love Manila.

March-3-2006 #1502.

I've increasingly noticed that ever since the Mayor started the "Baywalk" project with all the nice street lights, the fountain at Remedios that replaced the Chingy-chingy and mal-life that used to hang out there, etc etc, the cost of just about everything in Malate has doubled. No more 30 peso 1-litre beer, and part-time pickup girls now ask P1000 or even P1000, wheras not too long ago they would have been happy with P500 and ecstatic with any tip over that. Too many rich tourists and all the eVat and rVAT stuff has made some adventures way expensive now. Even out in Cavite some bar girls are asking 1500! It's getting way out of hand; time to just give up on pay-for-play and stick to non-pickup girls, which I notice seem to be more and more interested in making the first move these days. Nice!

March-26-2006 #1532.

Finally, I made my choice and off we went. In contrast with the previous night, this was total GFE. I won't bore you with all the details but after 4 pops in 8 hours I sent her off and could not move until 1:00PM the next afternoon. Worth every penny of the 2k + 100 taxi fare.OAH

April-21-2006 #1556.

DG you are right, the price can fluctuate wildly in Manila on a daily basis. A girl who is used to getting 4 K might be glad to get 2 K today if she has to pay rent today.

[Dickhead]

Yes, you are off by a year. If you have ten total observations, you have only nine periods of change. So if you take the ninth root of 2 and subtract one, you get 8.00059739%. So if the price of pussy doubled in NINE years, that would be almost exactly an 8% constant annual rate of increase. Occasionally there will be government programs to combat illiteracy, but innumeracy is seldom mentioned. So, boys and girls, pay attention in math class!

[WestCoast1]

To clarify, I am not saying that West Coast is incorrect in saying that the price of pussy has doubled in ten years. I am just saying that if it has, it's not an 8% annualized increase but much closer to 7%. To get a constant rate of increase, you divide the ending value by the beginning value, take the root that corresponds to the number of periods, and subtract one. I don't know how he got 8%.

Here is my simple spreadsheet math (compounded annually), starting at p1000, ending close to 2000 a decade later. Its possible I am off by one year.

Principal / interest.

1000.00 / 80.00 / 8%.

1080.00 / 86.40.

1166.40 / 93.31.

1259.71 / 100.78.

1360.49 / 108.84.

1469.33 / 117.55.

1586.87 / 126.95.

1713.82 / 137.11.

1850.93 / 148.07.

1999.00 / 159.92.

[Dickhead]

To clarify, I am not saying that West Coast is incorrect in saying that the price of pussy has doubled in ten years. I am just saying that if it has, it's not an 8% annualized increase but much closer to 7%. To get a constant rate of increase, you divide the ending value by the beginning value, take the root that corresponds to the number of periods, and subtract one. I don't know how he got 8%.

[Wicked Roger]

The price of poon is not tied to the inflation rate nor to any cost of living index. Nor is it tied to the minimum wage that some people use as a comparison. Sorry to tell you that the price of poon in not in the cost of living basket like milk and bread.

Many factors combine in the price of poon on any given day and given hour and location. More of market forces of supply and demand than anything else along with risk factors.

Included in the 'basket" DG is how drunk the outer is, how much "love" he is at the time of meeting the girl (when drunk a double whammy for the poon inflation index), ho much he believes the story about dying sister / Lola / olo etc.

So many other variables that the economists never understand when discussing poon.

[Dg8787]

The price of poon is not tied to the inflation rate nor to any cost of living index. Nor is it tied to the minimum wage that some people use as a comparison. Sorry to tell you that the price of poon in not in the cost of living basket like milk and bread.

Many factors combine in the price of poon on any given day and given hour and location. More of market forces of supply and demand than anything else along with risk factors.

[WestCoast1]

I have planned for salary increases for my Ph staff of 10% in the future and expect to need to do that to compete.

There continues to be a huge oversupply of mediocre graduates whom will still be willing to meet mongers for years to come. In my opinion, mongers will need to continue to pay more in the next year and the next, should plan accordingly.

BD.

Thanks BD. Real-world data helps.

[BrainDrain]

. If anyone has a better explanation, I'm all ears.

When I did some market analysis for my business planning, we identified that real wages growth in Philippines was running at 12% in our industry. There is a massive economic dynamic dragging Philippines into the real world. As the knowledge workers are earning more and more each year (thanks big fat internet connections) those expectations flow through to the other parts of the economy.

I have planned for salary increases for my Ph staff of 10% in the future and expect to need to do that to compete.

There continues to be a huge oversupply of mediocre graduates whom will still be willing to meet mongers for years to come. In my opinion, mongers will need to continue to pay more in the next year and the next, should plan accordingly.

BD.