Filipinas - Opinions and Advice

[Flying Saucer]

I guess reading TrickyRick‘s post made me want to tell my story. I support a family in Quezon City. Why? I mean I understand the rules of the Philippines quite well and have spent a lot of time there. Yes, I have had lots of friends there and still make a lot of nice new friends there.

But. A couple years ago I met a girl on P. Burgos and now I support her folks and sisters. Wait? You are already to reply and call me countless unspeakable names.

So I had to camp out for ten hours in the 88, the Internet Café on Burgos. I came out all bleary eyed and tired. It was maybe nine at night. I camped out at Makati Palace. I like standing here because I can see the girls who congregate at Makati Palace and those who hang just south of the 7-11. A good view of the street (and not too close to the lady boys).

Two girls walk over and camp out near me in front of Makati Palace. Along comes a third girl and grabs half of original too and drags her off. So now there is on girl in front of Makati Palace. Guy 1 comes up to talk to her. She shakes her head. Guy 2, same thing, Guy 3, same thing, Guy 4, same thing. She seems to be upset. I don’t mean cornball Filipina over the top with drama upset. I mean scared.

So I ask what’s wrong. She says (drum roll please), "All these guys keep asking me how much for sex. " Okay right now most of you have fallen off your chairs with laughter. I point out, "You are standing in front a well know pick up spot for prostitutes. " She looks me dead in the eye and say, "I did not know. This is my first time to Makati. " So I figure she is a province girl. I ask where she is from. She say, "Quezon City". Okay. For those of you who do not know Metro Manila well. QC (Quezon City) is a long town just a couple miles North of Makati. This basically means she is a poor girl likely from the north of QC (yeah, I guessed this right).

So the conversation fades. Another guy approaches. Another guy. She stressed. So finally I say, "Look if you stand next to me they won’t talk to you. " We chat and I invite her to 7-11 (the one on the north end of the street) for soda. I figure it would be better to get her towards the Korean end of things.

Her story. Her moth is sick. She needs $200 and her friend took her to Burgos to be a prostitute. It’s her first time. Okay, so I DO NOT believe it. But she was really scared. So I ask her to McDonald’s. She comes with me back to down to Jupiter and Makati Ave. And we eat. We talk. I get a bit more of the story. She is young. Her friend was pulled away to be with an guy in a hotel. She panicked and couldn’t go through with it. She was standing there waiting for her friend to finish in the hotel because she did not want to go home alone at night.

She has not asked me for money. She just told me how she got to Burgos and why.

So we talk and she asks to go back to my hotel. We make love. Very sweet. Very loving. In the morning. She wakes up before me, showers and leaves. I have to chase her down the hall to give her 500 Pesos. She asks what it is for. I say cab fare. She is hesitant and takes the money. So I see her ever day. Every day I gave her 500 pesos for cab fare (cab fare is about 150 each way to it is only 200 extra over the cost of a cab). She never once asks for money.

I am about to go back home. I invite her to Makati. I give her the $200. Yes, I believe her story. A big part of me doesn’t trust her. But I don’t think she was acting. She was scared on Burgos and had no reason to think up this elaborate game to get the money.

On my next trip her parents wanted to meet me. They are poor. I mean 7 people in an 8 by 8 foot sleeping area. Dad makes 5000 a month. They give me whisky. They give me soda. The uncles and cousins all stop by (there are like 40 people) and I am "the big news. " They all live on the same block.

So we made a contract. She finishes school and does not get pregnant (hey – it’s not the greatest contract but I wanted to be fair to her). I check her grades, etc. So I pay for things like dentist, etc. (her parents are mid-30’s and have no teeth) because when she graduates. Good teeth means a job. I send her sisters to a private school (yes, I get receipts). Etc. I have a company admin who pays the school directly.

I think she is exclusive to me. I don’t think she works as a hooker. Her story has too many truths in it. Heck, I’ve even helped her with homework, etc. Because she has to do homework when she stays over now.

So I think I kept a girl of Burgos. She claims to love me, wants to marry, me, etc. I told her to graduate and we’d talk. I’m 25 years older than she is. So maybe I can save her and her sisters from being Burgos girls – then again. Maybe I am an idiot.

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[Warbucks]

I have meet a Filipina on cb 2 yrs ago. In those 2 yrs we have emailed each other countless times. I have seen her in person 4 times as friends only and taken her and her child to enchated kingdom. Starting in Jan 08 I have become more serious with her. In the yrs I have chatted I sent her money for christmas in dec 06 4000 peso. She has never asked or bugged me for money. In March 08 I gave her 10, 000 peso for her birthday and then the next month 7, 000 for her child for school supplies. Then again I gave her 9, 0000 peso on jul 08 and told her thats all till oct. 2 weeks after I gave the 9, 000 she says it won't last till oct. Now 9, 000 may not be all that much but she has lived without my help this long why now she wanting more. My guess cause I now her bf and I call her weekly and chat with her on webcam. I think I should not give her anymore till I come to see her in October. What is all your guys opinon?

1) Did not meet her in a bar

2) Didn't bug me for money and now hints a bit

Go for what you know. Or as they say in PI "Up to you." No concerns at all its only money. Thats really not important.

[Sxxxx]

...................Ask yourself this one question how were they getting "along" before you came in the picture?

Good one, I like it.

Whatever you start out with, they will up the ante. Don't forget, all us gringo's have to do is walk out the back yard every morning, look to the skies and the money starts pouring down into our open hands, LOL. You know that, I know that, they know that, LOL.

Start very low and stay there.

On arrival in Phils you can lash out and buy big items for them. Clothes, pay back bill, whatever rocks your boat. Buy the items, do not hand over bundles of cash, there is always cock fighting, casino, cards, blah blah, blah for them to blow your hard earned cash on, LOL. No clue in managing money, most probably cause they never have it, LOL.

[GoodEnough]

If you really like this girl, and you really want to help her, you can continue to send her money, but you have to establish the rules and stick to them. First, decide if you want to continue to help her. If the answer is in the affirmative, then you decide how much and when. Explain to her then that you will send her x amount on a given day each month, or whatever you decide the period should be and then explain that this is all she will get. Stick rigidly and without exception to the rules that you've established.

This may or may not be a scam. The simple fact is that, at least in my experience, Filipinas in general are awful at managing money. They're impulse buyers; they do not plan, and as long as they have money in their pockets, they will spend it, on "stuff," on their families or whatever. Don't reinforce their poor financial management habits by indulging any requests and stick to your own rules. She will eventually adjust, once she realizes that you're serious and that she ain't getting any additional funds other than what you promised her.

GE

[Warbucks]

I have meet a Filipina on cb 2 yrs ago. In those 2 yrs we have emailed each other countless times. I have seen her in person 4 times as friends only and taken her and her child to enchated kingdom. Starting in Jan 08 I have become more serious with her. In the yrs I have chatted I sent her money for christmas in dec 06 4000 peso. She has never asked or bugged me for money. In March 08 I gave her 10, 000 peso for her birthday and then the next month 7, 000 for her child for school supplies. Then again I gave her 9, 0000 peso on jul 08 and told her thats all till oct. 2 weeks after I gave the 9, 000 she says it won't last till oct. Now 9, 000 may not be all that much but she has lived without my help this long why now she wanting more. My guess cause I now her bf and I call her weekly and chat with her on webcam. I think I should not give her anymore till I come to see her in October. What is all your guys opinon?

1) Did not meet her in a bar

2) Didn't bug me for money and now hints a bit

Once you start giving some Filipinas money it’s like a turning on a faucet that becomes a mighty river :) Don't send money man some of them act like they need it and they can't do without it. Most of the time it’s a scam. Ask yourself this one question how were they getting "along" before you came into the picture?

[The Freak]

I have meet a Filipina on cb 2 yrs ago. In those 2 yrs we have emailed each other countless times. I have seen her in person 4 times as friends only and taken her and her child to enchated kingdom. Starting in Jan 08 I have become more serious with her. In the yrs I have chatted I sent her money for christmas in dec 06 4000 peso. She has never asked or bugged me for money. In March 08 I gave her 10, 000 peso for her birthday and then the next month 7, 000 for her child for school supplies. Then again I gave her 9, 0000 peso on jul 08 and told her thats all till oct. 2 weeks after I gave the 9, 000 she says it won't last till oct. Now 9, 000 may not be all that much but she has lived without my help this long why now she wanting more. My guess cause I now her bf and I call her weekly and chat with her on webcam. I think I should not give her anymore till I come to see her in October. What is all your guys opinon?

1) Did not meet her in a bar

2) Didn't bug me for money and now hints a bit

I've being a long time reader of this board I must say y would you send a girl you are not interested in money my wife is from the filippines thats the only girl I sent money cus I knew I would marry her and I did but to test her then I had her send me money and she she did anyway were happly married for 2 yrs now and so far so good.

[X Man]

Blink has already give you some good advice and I agree with the ornery bstrd.

You have a lot of strategies available to you...

hint that you have other women..."My firends invited me to abc island so I will have only a few days to visit you at xyz island".

Just stop sending messages and eventually state that you've been busy at work.

Claim that your busines failed and can she send you 1000 pesos from WU.

Goood luck.

x

I have meet a Filipina on cb 2 yrs ago. In those 2 yrs we have emailed each other countless times. I have seen her in person 4 times as friends only and taken her and her child to enchated kingdom. Starting in Jan 08 I have become more serious with her. In the yrs I have chatted I sent her money for christmas in dec 06 4000 peso. She has never asked or bugged me for money. In March 08 I gave her 10, 000 peso for her birthday and then the next month 7, 000 for her child for school supplies. Then again I gave her 9, 0000 peso on jul 08 and told her thats all till oct. 2 weeks after I gave the 9, 000 she says it won't last till oct. Now 9, 000 may not be all that much but she has lived without my help this long why now she wanting more. My guess cause I now her bf and I call her weekly and chat with her on webcam. I think I should not give her anymore till I come to see her in October. What is all your guys opinon?

1) Did not meet her in a bar

2) Didn't bug me for money and now hints a bit

[Blink157]

I have meet a Filipina on cb 2 yrs ago. In those 2 yrs we have emailed each other countless times. I have seen her in person 4 times as friends only and taken her and her child to enchated kingdom. Starting in Jan 08 I have become more serious with her. In the yrs I have chatted I sent her money for christmas in dec 06 4000 peso. She has never asked or bugged me for money. In March 08 I gave her 10, 000 peso for her birthday and then the next month 7, 000 for her child for school supplies. Then again I gave her 9, 0000 peso on jul 08 and told her thats all till oct. 2 weeks after I gave the 9, 000 she says it won't last till oct. Now 9, 000 may not be all that much but she has lived without my help this long why now she wanting more. My guess cause I now her bf and I call her weekly and chat with her on webcam. I think I should not give her anymore till I come to see her in October. What is all your guys opinon?

1) Did not meet her in a bar

2) Didn't bug me for money and now hints a bit

Hi,
I can only say one thing to you, or to evrybody in here..Once you started something its very hard to stop. Once you give money , she will expect it , cause she get used to it and yes...its NEVER be enough..

If you can afford it send her, make sure its the last, if not , just see what she do when you back, if she will cheat on you, she gonna do it , wether you going to send her money or not :D....needless to say that so many gurls around here bla bla bla....

Blink

[TrickyRick]

I have meet a Filipina on cb 2 yrs ago. In those 2 yrs we have emailed each other countless times. I have seen her in person 4 times as friends only and taken her and her child to enchated kingdom. Starting in Jan 08 I have become more serious with her. In the yrs I have chatted I sent her money for christmas in dec 06 4000 peso. She has never asked or bugged me for money. In March 08 I gave her 10, 000 peso for her birthday and then the next month 7, 000 for her child for school supplies. Then again I gave her 9, 0000 peso on jul 08 and told her thats all till oct. 2 weeks after I gave the 9, 000 she says it won't last till oct. Now 9, 000 may not be all that much but she has lived without my help this long why now she wanting more. My guess cause I now her bf and I call her weekly and chat with her on webcam. I think I should not give her anymore till I come to see her in October. What is all your guys opinon?

1) Did not meet her in a bar

2) Didn't bug me for money and now hints a bit

[Spam Hog]

[QUOTE=Cbea20]

As the long time member of ISG, 'Spam Hog' always proclaimed: "You can take the girl out of the bar but you cannot take the bar out of the girl".

There is truth to this truism, but it's too flippant. After a few months working in a bar, the habit of hustling becomes ingrained. Seven years, as mentioned below, is much too long. If you get her within her first few months of bar work, she can be re-trained to respect you.

Yes, I maintain such then as I do now. My first experience with bar girls began in 1970 in Vietnam, then in BKK on leave. That quote was from a crusty old first Sgt who had been in Vietnam for so many years he forgot all the guys who got sucked in (as opposed to off) by bar girls.

Yeah you can find a few good ones in the herd, MAYBE if you get one not too experienced YOU MIGHT be able to turn her around, but remember she has had 18 years or so of preconditioning and learning by example so IMHO the odds are against it. Also, recall that for a while I did PI work in the Phils and Thailand doing integrity checks, 100% fool around factor for BGs. And just because she is brand "new' at Fat ass Charlies go go shak in Angeles or wherever doesn''t mean she didn't work some little videoke in her home town, this is likely where and how she was recruited for the big city

Once they see how easy it is to make money, THEY NEVER STOP, remember they are human and that means they are subject ot the same foibles as other humans, greed etc and they are women, born with more intuition than we can muster in a life time.

Good luck

Billy

[Member #4647]

I'm in Manila and AC the same day all the time, its only a 2 hour bus ride.

[Blackangst]

oh well,

you bored today??

Me too :D, thats why I reply to this now..

First of all I dont party and post at the same time, Im not superman. I post when I have the time to do that..mostly during the week.

Yes, I live and work in the Philippines..so I can go to makati or manila whenever I like... I go to AC evry weekend..

Chit chat with gurls? Yes I do that before I ask them if they like to go barfine :D

Needless to say that if your in the Phils and youhave some cash, pussy aint much problem...However when in ac I rather talk to some of my "expatfriends" or "papasanfriends" then chit chat with some uneducated hooker....I go out and dine with gurls I find interesting , I have some regulars, one of them is working tonight again in Atlantis...but she wont go with you :D

if you say im full of shit, then just put me on ignore list or just skip my reports. It seems to me you know it all, so no problem for you to take any advise from me...


Today is friday, Im up to some lunch now and later I go to manila explore La cafe and edsa and Im sure I will have a helluvatime...even Im full of shit...

So, enuff of this pissing contest...back to the topic....filipina opinion and advise...dont get married, fuck around and have fun :)


Blink out

*shrug* doesnt matter to me man. I enjoy alot of your reports. I wouldnt go so far as to ignore you...I mean, why would I? You havent insulted me and I dont get emotional over a message board. I was simply pointing out your dates dont match up, and you are often in AC and Manila on the same day. Thats all.

Peace

[Blink157]

Just remember not every guy is there to BF and fuck. There are days I just want to hang out with a pretty girl and chit chat. :) Most people think the idea of laying 2+ LD is crazy and youre getting ripped off...it aint so.

And BTW. As many here I read this board alot and I will preface my statement with two comments. First, obviously I dont know you, whether you work or not (you say you live in the PI), or retired; also, it very well could be your memory is shot to shit. That said, I am starting to think youre full of shit. After reading for a few weeks I notice a pattern: youre in two places at once. You'll make a post in the AC section about some great time you had the night before, then in the Makati or Manila thread you'll post about how you had a great time there. Your dates dont match up. Whether or not you realize it, you do it often.

Now, I couldnt care less. Like I said we dont know each other, and I admit having no beef with you. But I think youre full of shit. *shrug*

Carry on.

oh well,

you bored today??

Me too :D, thats why I reply to this now..

First of all I dont party and post at the same time, Im not superman. I post when I have the time to do that..mostly during the week.

Yes, I live and work in the Philippines..so I can go to makati or manila whenever I like... I go to AC evry weekend..

Chit chat with gurls? Yes I do that before I ask them if they like to go barfine :D

Needless to say that if your in the Phils and youhave some cash, pussy aint much problem...However when in ac I rather talk to some of my "expatfriends" or "papasanfriends" then chit chat with some uneducated hooker....I go out and dine with gurls I find interesting , I have some regulars, one of them is working tonight again in Atlantis...but she wont go with you :D

if you say im full of shit, then just put me on ignore list or just skip my reports. It seems to me you know it all, so no problem for you to take any advise from me...


Today is friday, Im up to some lunch now and later I go to manila explore La cafe and edsa and Im sure I will have a helluvatime...even Im full of shit...

So, enuff of this pissing contest...back to the topic....filipina opinion and advise...dont get married, fuck around and have fun :)


Blink out

[Blackangst]

Man you guys crack me up.....:)

hahahahah *grin*

[Warbucks]

......And BTW. As many here I read this board alot and I will preface my statement with two comments. First, obviously I dont know you, whether you work or not (you say you live in the PI), or retired; also, it very well could be your memory is shot to shit. That said, I am starting to think youre full of shit. After reading for a few weeks I notice a pattern: youre in two places at once. You'll make a post in the AC section about some great time you had the night before, then in the Makati or Manila thread you'll post about how you had a great time there. Your dates dont match up. Whether or not you realize it, you do it often.

Now, I couldnt care less. Like I said we dont know each other, and I admit having no beef with you. But I think youre full of shit. *shrug*

Carry on.

Man you guys crack me up.....:)