Filipinas - Opinions and Advice

[Bumbo]

I been lurking on and off, I was seeking answers on this board, I see it's leaning towards more negetive than positive about marrying a phillipina woman. About pulling scams ect. , I can see the pros and cons, I'm planning to marry one, now I'm getting second thoughts on this. I could be throwing away chance of true happiness, But anyways I met her on yahoo chat about year and a half ago. She is working in HK as a nanny her contract is up in mid July she is from Cagayan de oro city. Not once she ask me to send money if she did then BYE! I move to the next one. I'm planning to go to phili in aug 10 I'm taking a 3 weeks vacation so me and her will get to know eachother even better. I reading someones post if I understood it correctly if she ask money to help her family out while visiting, then I would say Bye! Then I go to bars and fuck many gals I can. Sometimes we text eachother few times a week once in a rare while she will call me then I call her back thank goodness pre paid phone cards. Sometimes she send pics of her and cousins while walking on the streets of HK. It took me months to have her send nude pics of her she send few pics as my b-day present by e-mail she told me she was embarrassed LOL! I know asain women are shy about their body. She asked me why I still single I told her I don't like white women and gave her my reasons I don't like white women because their attitude ect. Ect. She understood my reasons, and I was being straight foward to her and told her if we ever marry someday and if you start to get white women way of thinking (Fem Nazi) I would tell you to leave my house and don't come back. She understood loud and clear and told me she don't go for white women ways she rather stay to her phili ways being a good wife attend to husband needs, We shall see on this. After meeting her I will get a Finance? Visa since you have 90 days to marry I will test drive her for 2 months while living me if everything goes smoothly then we will marry. So how long does the visa takes to get processed and approved? I heard it's 6 months so what's the time length? For visa? I thank you for your input on this.

[Cebu Local]

A while back I asked CL for info about how to buy a Filipina an air ticket, but prevent her from cashing it in.

My friend, for whatever reasons, wired $500+ to a Cebu bargirl so that she could buy a ticket to Bali and meet him.

Just want to report that she did pick up the money, did buy the ticket, and did go to Bali. Happy ending to that story.

X

Good thing for your friend,That was a rare case indeed,Maybe She never went abroad before and wanted the experience

[X Man]

A while back I asked CL for info about how to buy a Filipina an air ticket, but prevent her from cashing it in.

My friend, for whatever reasons, wired $500+ to a Cebu bargirl so that she could buy a ticket to Bali and meet him.

Just want to report that she did pick up the money, did buy the ticket, and did go to Bali. Happy ending to that story.

X

[Cebu Local]

I do not have anything against Filipinas.I think they make great lovers girlfriends and wives for some people.But the very thraits that make them charming Sweet,Loving,Jealous and Highly emotional do not make them an ideal mate for me.Ask yourself how many BIG businesses in the Philippines are run by pure native Filipinos and How much is run by Spanish and Chinese and Chinese Mixed breedsThe answer is very very little.The tendency for the Filipina is to be more concerned about looking after family then turning a buck.Plus speaking Filipino allows me to understand their mentality which scares me more.So different strokes for different folks.I just cant see a nice sweet Filipina Girl helping run my businesses as my life partner.Sorry for those I offended and who PMed me

[GoodEnough]

I know more than a few girls who've met stupid-enough foreigners that they get wire-transfers of $1000 monthly for a while. It's not just a rumor. When the money dries up, then they go looking for the next stupid foreigner. In the interim, I don't mind letting _them_ buy me a few drinks since for a while they have more money to burn than I do. The girls who are really good at it will sometimes have two or more stupid foreigners sending them money at the same time, and just juggle their "visits" to keep the gravytrain rolling. Of course, those are the smart girls; there are a few and lucky for them they're outnumbered by stupid foreigners. I know one girl who built a house for her kids that way. I wish I could afford a nice new cellfone every few months the way she seems to turn up with. She's a good friend though, and we laugh about all this when we trip over each other every few months. Best time to trip over her is when she's just got rid of some stupid foreigner, doesn't need money, and she wants to pay the shot for some wine and time in a jacuzzi with me. Too bad I don't have much chance to get out and trip over her these days. Which reminds me, I should txt her and see what she's up to this weekend.

Like you, I know several women here who collect money from multiple guys whom they've never met. Each of the guys thinks that he's "engaged" to the girl, and each sends money every week or every month. My question though is whether this says more about the guys or the girls? I mean, if you're stupid enough and/or pathetic enough to send money to a woman you've never met, about whose character you know absolutely nothing, what does this say about you and your basic intelligence?

Many of the girls I know who are running these multiple scams feel no guilt at all about what they're doing. They say that the odds on any of these guys actually showing up in the PI are small, and that if one ever does show up, she's go with him in a heatbeat and drop the others. These girls seem intent on creating as many options for themselves as possible. And why not? There is apparently no shortage of willing marks waiting to be fleeced. I can understand completely the uncomplicated motivation of these women. What I fail to understand at all is the motivation of the guys involved with them. Do they all that Pygmalion complexes? Do they all lead such empty lives in their own countries that this is the only source of female contact they have? I'll never understand, but their collective gullibilty is supporting hundred, if not thousands of families here, as well as dozens, if not hundred, of internet cafes with web cams and private rooms.

For what these guys are spending, they could afford to come over here for a few weeks and test the waters in person. Most though, never will whether out of fear of travel or commitment to preserving their fantasies, or for other reasons.

Anyway guys, whatever your motivation, keep up the payments. You're having a positive impact on the GDP of a country that needs the foreign exchange.

:D

GE

[Cebu Local]

Next time you're in Manila, find a way to let me know & maybe we can compare biz notes over a few beers. Seems you and I have more than a few things in common.

Aside from that, any ideas how one might set up to sell travel services out of one's Internet Cafe? :)
We need to expand our revenue base.

I sent you a pm,But I wanted to clarify something Even though I have lived in the Philippines for the past 15 years,Speak Filipino Tagalog and Cebuano fluently at close to native level,I am NOT involved with a Pinay.I am involved with a Canadian educated Chinese from Shanghai.Pinays are too emotional,Have no concept of Financial planning and consider long range planning what to do tommorow.If you could speak Tagalog,You would really consider what they are thinking.I was listening to a conversation among 4 Burgos girls yesterday,How long after you get to America should you divorce the Stupid MATANDANG GURANG NA KANO,The consensus was after you get your green card then you can bring your boyfriend over.One was saying How SMART her cousin was for marrying and divorcing 3 times,Now she has US citizenship and 2 houses.Of course they had no idea I spoke Tagalog,Just another TANGA FORIEGNER at the table,Filipinas????Pass btw Matandang gurang na Kano is Stupid old goat American

[CanContrib]

next time you are in Cebu or Manila.Yes,They sell E tickets and None refundable and None endorsable Domestic tickets in the PI also.Btw While I was at an Internet Cafe in Burgos that I partially own,

Next time you're in Manila, find a way to let me know & maybe we can compare biz notes over a few beers. Seems you and I have more than a few things in common.

Aside from that, any ideas how one might set up to sell travel services out of one's Internet Cafe? :)
We need to expand our revenue base.

[CanContrib]

overhead 4-5 Bar girls laughing about some idiot who sent her money to go abroad and how She was going to spend the weekend shopping in SM Thanks to the Idiot.Next time Refer your friends to me so I can advice them properly Cheers

I know more than a few girls who've met stupid-enough foreigners that they get wire-transfers of $1000 monthly for a while. It's not just a rumor. When the money dries up, then they go looking for the next stupid foreigner. In the interim, I don't mind letting _them_ buy me a few drinks since for a while they have more money to burn than I do. The girls who are really good at it will sometimes have two or more stupid foreigners sending them money at the same time, and just juggle their "visits" to keep the gravytrain rolling. Of course, those are the smart girls; there are a few and lucky for them they're outnumbered by stupid foreigners. I know one girl who built a house for her kids that way. I wish I could afford a nice new cellfone every few months the way she seems to turn up with. She's a good friend though, and we laugh about all this when we trip over each other every few months. Best time to trip over her is when she's just got rid of some stupid foreigner, doesn't need money, and she wants to pay the shot for some wine and time in a jacuzzi with me. Too bad I don't have much chance to get out and trip over her these days. Which reminds me, I should txt her and see what she's up to this weekend.

[CanContrib]

Every one of my trips to the Philippines has at least one girl trying to pull some pregnancy ploy, 'my period is late,' etc.

From my last visit in November a girl is saying she's 5 months pregnant. And of course she had claimed to be a virgin so it could only be mine, yada yada.

Unless you love the girl and want to marry (or at least support her) - which seems very unlikely given the "quality" of girl you're talking about, something like 300pesos should buy you appropriate abortion pills. Hand them to her and tell her to go have a good life and not pester you.

FYI, rumor has it you can get them in lots of places, especially Cubao and likely a lot cheaper there. Easier though to just ask almost any bar girl who will know how to have them brought to you. Or likely any street pimp offering you Viagra will also have some of those handy. Not that I know any of that as fact, of course. :-)

[CanContrib]

Great Thread!

CanContrib, you're my hero! You're living the life I want to lead!

I've been to PI only once and loved it there. It is so down to earth there that I am seriously considering moving there someday.

Just curious, do most of you live there or just visit there once or twice a year?

And if you live there, what type of work is availiable (if you need to work at all).

Regarding filipinas, I've noticed there are different sub races among them, there are the ones who have a very 'tribal' look to them, usually a round face... and there are the ones with slimmer faces like the one here. Is there a regional difference where one could find more of one or the other?

I don't know about "most of you", but I have my permanent residency status here now and I have no desire to return to the land of "pay the government and you can have what's left", which is nothing. To your other question yes there is work available, expecially on a professional basis. If you have permanant residency no problem, otherwise it will cost you P5K plus and at least two weeks for a legal work permit for your specific time-limited job. Do you need to work? I don't know. Do you need an income, or do you already have money to burn?

The best advice I can give, after a few years here, doing things mostly the hard and expensive way, is to make your decision, bring a big bunch of money, hook up with the RIGHT people, pay your way through, and then make your life happen. Screw up anywhere and you will pay a lot more.

To the question of slim (or not slim) know that Phils has many centuries of foreign "influence". That means that you can get fat or slim or anywhere inbetween, just like anywhere else. For example, it doesn't matter how much I feed my wife, she is always drop-dead-maganda :) Yup, I like slim; most pinay are.

[CanContrib]

Before I get too distracted reading postings I don't have time for, what was I going to write ... oh yes ... there's so much I have no opportunity to report on, so just one of the experience backlog na.

We have this "safe house", actually two, depending on who is where .. so there's this Pinay who's been chasing me for 3 months, and I finally 'helped" her. 19, nice girl, not bar girl. I do believe I'm her #2, which is as perfect s you can get as she proved to me, and of course she loves me. Like I said to her, we'll see if she knows me next year. Anyway, I noticed and wiped up the puddle after our 3rd time in 2 hours and wiped it up. Grabbe! Energetic dii ba!

So I passed on meeting an older friend tonight that would have required precauious travel in the middle of the night when she gets off (her IT work, she's just a real person too), so that's queued for tommorrow if she can get the day off work. I need the night off after my 19-lover anyway. I do want to see my older friend this week while I can, it's a "relationship" worth perpetuating.

The bad part is that next week I go back to "not much here and you don't go out1', once my wife comes home.

Lesson: don't make any solid comitment unless you want "married life" (translation: wala), since once you "settle down" you can then only use opportunities when you can arrange them, which becomes increasingly difficult. If you want boring, go for it. If you want to make love daily, then make sure you have your "arrangements: and "alibies" in place, and *her* relatives to run shotgun for you.l It's possible, but it's not easy, which is the point. Great 19-year-old GF though. I hope that **I** can manage to be with her more.

[CanContrib]

For all who posted replies<

My buddy is a jerk. I know that. I mentioned to you that he wants to voluntarily pay some money each month. As CL said, $100 is sufficient (5000 pesos). Although he had the one night stand, he had no feelings for the girl. Also the girl (who had appararently claimed to be a virgin) fucked him after meeting him for a few hours! He is good looking - may be she was infactuated with him.

But, what he doesn't want is a Pinoy court Order to withhold child support from his paycheck in California. My question was, specifically, can she get one and can she enforce that in USA? Like many raised concerns, I doubt it!

I don't know about the US, but I do know there's no chlld-support or alimony treaty between the Philippines and Canada. *That* is the question you need to ask your knowledgeable lawyer.
My *guess* would be "probably not".

[Muf Diver]

Mug,

Yes, if you sign on the birth-certificate, you are acknowledging that you are the father. Once you have done that the Mexicana has certain rights.

However, if you are in USA, sh still has to go the Mexican family court system first. Then she has to have that order cerified by the U.S. Consulate in Mexico, and then come to USA to fight.

I know this fact because a guy I knew got hit with it. Because the girl he knocked up subsequently met another gringo, and he helped her file the claim for child support. I must say that the girl was very smart, the guy was too naive!

It is a long shot. But, if you did not acknowledge that the child is yours, she has no right to come to USA and collect the child support.

MD

[Lucifer69]

Frequent Flyer,

Many of the people are fishermen and others own rice farms. Many raise caribou, the species similar to the Thai water buffalo. I have NEVER seen anyone riding one of these caribou, nor have I EVER seen anyone in Thailand riding one (in 1990-1993 I had a girlfriend living in a village in northern Thailand; some of the people in the village raised water buffalo).

If she fell off one she is absolutely a dumb fuck. Far more likely she thinks you could be had once more.

Dragon Slayer

Apparently you've never been out the "province". I've seen many many people riding carabo. I don't really see the point as an average person can walk faster than most carabo.

[Dragon Slayer]

Frequent Flyer,

How are you? Did you ever hear of Neal Hutchison's book "Money Number One"? I purchased a copy at the american hangout, the Alamo Bar in Pattaya City, Thailand in May 2003. Based on Neal's personal expriences and past relationships with Pattaya City Bargirls. Much of it could easily be related to experiences in the Philippines.

He covers the "Falling in Love" with one of these women in considerable length. There is a Chapter where he tells you to get the "lady" to return home to be with her Family and away from the influences of the other ladies in the Bars/Clubs. He says that if you do, expect a letter very similar to this within a couple of months. The Example Letter begins with, "Hello Darling". It quickly goes on to relate an accident concerning a River Buffalo (Ta Nam Kwai) and the resulting "injury" to her leg.

Okay now, back to planet earth. I have my little girls and my woman on an island. The Family is pretty well off and all live in homes either on the beach or across the street from the beach. Our home was completed in time for my 7 year old's birthday in early January. It is on the beach.

Many of the people are fishermen and others own rice farms. Many raise caribou, the species similar to the Thai water buffalo. I have NEVER seen anyone riding one of these caribou, nor have I EVER seen anyone in Thailand riding one (in 1990-1993 I had a girlfriend living in a village in northern Thailand; some of the people in the village raised water buffalo).

If she fell off one she is absolutely a dumb fuck. Far more likely she thinks you could be had once more.

Dragon Slayer