Filipinas - Opinions and Advice

[Mugroso]

I also know that Mexican girls cannot get child support from American fathers, as the law requires both mother and father to sign the birth certificate. If you do not acknowledge that you are the father, the girl won't get child support. Is that the same in Philippines?
MD

I did not know that. So clarify for me, if I sign a birth certificate for a child (mine) that was born in Mexico, she can then hit me up for child support through the U.S. system?

I do know that if (and many do) a Mexican woman crosses into the U.S. and gives birth on American soil, she can then get support through the U.S. courts.

I know this is a PI thread but the subject caught my attention. But for what its worth I plan on going to the PI some day, the sooner the better.

Mugroso

[Frequent Flier]

During our last visit in November, my friend made a Davao girl pregnant. Against my advice, and the wisdom, he never used condom with her. He met her in a bar where she was with 4 other friends - none of them pros.
He is 25, and suspects that it is his kid. The girl told him that she was a virgin (!) and he said that is why he used no condoms (stupid idiot!).

My question is: Could the girl get a child support Order in Philippines and come after him in California? He makes good money. He has no intent to see her again even if the kid is his! But, he would like to help her "Voluntarily."

I wonder anyone here would have an insight on this.

I also know that Mexican girls cannot get child support from American fathers, as the law requires both mother and father to sign the birth certificate. If you do not acknowledge that you are the father, the girl won't get child support. Is that the same in Philippines?

MD

Used this service myself once while in the Philippines. They shipped the kit to Manila FEDEX to be held at a local FEDEX store for pick up. Once it arrived I picked the kit up, did the test myself of the Mother, Child and myself, only a cheek swab. Sent the package back via FEDEX and with about two weeks received an email, as I had provided an email address to receive the results the quickest, that I was without a doubt not the father. A zero percent chance.

http://www.1800dnatest.com/

FF

[Frequent Flier]

Every one of my trips to the Philippines has at least one girl trying to pull some pregnancy ploy, 'my period is late,' etc.

From my last visit in November a girl is saying she's 5 months pregnant. And of course she had claimed to be a virgin so it could only be mine, yada yada. Even though I was wearing a condom it must have leaked, bla bla. The girl had her clothes off and was in bed within 5 minutes of coming to the room, some virgin. I wonder how many other guys she's trying this with and who fell for it.

Never send money or accept any responsibility until there's clear, unbiased proof that it's yours.

Had a girl who I knew in Hong Kong, She was from the Philippines and took me for some money with lies and other BS. When I first met her I thought she was just a nice girl. There in HK with her aunt, didn't work the gogo bars or anything. Well in the end she was hanging with a Swiss guy who was a drug addict and she was receiving my money for his dealings. I'm sure he put her up to it, but that doesn't change anything. In the end she did some jail time in HK as well as her Swiss bf who was married to a Japanese girl who had 2 of his kids. Of course she goes back to the Philippines to have a fatherless child by this Swiss guy who wants nothing to do with her.

That was four years ago. I recently came to be in touch with her again. Just phone conversations. It took her about 2 weeks before she called me to tell me she has broke her arm. She was riding the caribou and fell off and broke her arm. She will just wait for it to heal as she cannot go to the hospital. Well, if it is a lie then it is a very funny lie, which it probably is, if not a lie and she truly is hurt, then she gets no money because she lied so much in the past. Before she could even ask for money I told her this. She responded that it wasn't a lie but that it was God's will for her to have this or some BS like that, which makes me believe all the more that she is up to her old tricks. They never change.

FF

[Dragon Slayer]

Pals,

I think I can answer this one as I DO know this Law. No fucking way in heaven or hell she will EVER get a court order in USA to compel you to give Child Support.

As a Father with children in the Phils, I did sign and acknowledge my paternity. I did this so my children could get US Passports and eventually come here. I have NEVER, for a single minute, regretted having a child in the Philippines. My only children, also.

With the girl in Cebu who conned me, I was not asked to sign papers acknowledging paternity. At the time I did not know of this legal procedure. It came up in 1999 with the birth of my seven year old (this one IS mine). I have often wondered if she had the real father (he lived right there) go by the Hospital to sign them. She did marry him. The middle name for the child was his name, I learned a few years after.

I would bet good money the child is NOT your friend's. Who do you think they always hit with the "I am pregnant with your baby" routine, the filipino who could give a flying fuck? Or the "dumbshit" foreigner with a conscience?

It is not expensive to have a DNA Test to prove paternity in the Philippines. To ease your pal's conscience he should return and have this done at a Hospital. He does not need to spend money (lawyers are NOT cheap) on a US Lawyer unless he feels threatened. The US Embassy will NOT even get involved in a matter like this.

I met several girls over the last 15 years in the Phils who I later learned had to get married as their boyfriend back home got them pregnant. In each case the girl told me she had no boyfriend. A few times I even thought the girl was a virgin.

Now, if the chld IS your friend's, P5000/Mo is only the "tip of the iceberg". I was with L______ for years before she became pregnant with my daughter, now 7. When they reach 4 the money escalates dramatically. Dresses, school and other items kick in. Wish for a boy as they are much cheaper to raise. I have two girls.

Dragon Slayer

[GoodEnough]

I took GooedEngough's post with a bit sarcasam. He could post on a sex realated site, yet cannot fathom the desires of a person to FIND OUT INFORMATION.
MD

I think you may have misunderstood me. I understand fully the need for information abd the appropriateness of this site and others like it for unearthing such information. My point was simply the necessity of providing some degree of financial support for the child in the event that (1) she;s really pregnant and (2) the child is really his and not to simply abandon the financial future of the kid.

I am about 99% sure that for the US Embassy to recognize a child born here as an American, the man has to acknowledge paternity, and this is purely his choice. That being the case, it would be almost impossible for a Filipina to get a garnishment order from a US court.Hell, Filipinas who get knocked up by Pinoys have no legal recourse here whatsoever. Of course, to be sure of this, it's a very good idea never to give her an address, phone number social security number of bank account number.

:D

GE

[Mayntain]

If your friend helps her monthly financially,im sure the girl will be satisfied with that. Because she can look around at her girlfriends with kids and they aren't getting a single peso from those deadbeats! I think $100 a month is not to much to ask of him.

[Muf Diver]

For all who posted replies<

My buddy is a jerk. I know that. I mentioned to you that he wants to voluntarily pay some money each month. As CL said, $100 is sufficient (5000 pesos). Although he had the one night stand, he had no feelings for the girl. Also the girl (who had appararently claimed to be a virgin) fucked him after meeting him for a few hours! He is good looking - may be she was infactuated with him.

But, what he doesn't want is a Pinoy court Order to withhold child support from his paycheck in California. My question was, specifically, can she get one and can she enforce that in USA? Like many raised concerns, I doubt it!

I agree with the moral majority to pay $ if you contributed/deposited the sperm! But, no one wants a third world girl acting like a gringa ***** and get hold of your balls for child support.

I took GooedEngough's post with a bit sarcasam. He could post on a sex realated site, yet cannot fathom the desires of a person to FIND OUT INFORMATION.

Thanks again for your replies. I have asked my buddy to meet with a Pinoy lawyer in San Francisco for a consult. He wants to get a waiver written in Tagalog (following CL's advice) before making any contributions. Also, he wants a DNA test done in US, after the birth of the baby.

MD

[Prov1]

Hey Muf Diver, if your buddy can live with himself what makes him think a poor gal in the P.I. is going to track him down in the U.S. to make him pay child support. It's hard enough to enforce from state to state.

Just tell him to send her a "C" note a month. He will sleep better at night.

[GoodEnough]

Please don't give this guy advice on how to avoid his responsiblities. You and I both know that this country is full of Filipinos who shirk any and all responsiblity for supporting the children they father, and there's nothing the women, typically poor and uneducated can do about it. Don't contribute to the perpetuation of this morally bankrupt behavior.

Why doesn't he insist on a DNA test to prove the kids is his and, if the whole thing is not a scam, then agree to paying, as suggested by CL, a modest amount per month. AS CL states, the cost is trivial.

:D

GE

[Three I]

During our last visit in November, my friend made a Davao girl pregnant. Against my advice, and the wisdom, he never used condom with her. He met her in a bar where she was with 4 other friends - none of them pros.
He is 25, and suspects that it is his kid. The girl told him that she was a virgin (!) and he said that is why he used no condoms (stupid idiot!).

My question is: Could the girl get a child support Order in Philippines and come after him in California? He makes good money. He has no intent to see her again even if the kid is his! But, he would like to help her "Voluntarily."

I wonder anyone here would have an insight on this.

I also know that Mexican girls cannot get child support from American fathers, as the law requires both mother and father to sign the birth certificate. If you do not acknowledge that you are the father, the girl won't get child support. Is that the same in Philippines?

MD

Dude your friend is messed up!

How could he have a child and leave it in that messed up country?

You need to read him the riot act.

[Cebu Local]

During our last visit in November, my friend made a Davao girl pregnant. Against my advice, and the wisdom, he never used condom with her. He met her in a bar where she was with 4 other friends - none of them pros.
He is 25, and suspects that it is his kid. The girl told him that she was a virgin (!) and he said that is why he used no condoms (stupid idiot!).

My question is: Could the girl get a child support Order in Philippines and come after him in California? He makes good money. He has no intent to see her again even if the kid is his! But, he would like to help her "Voluntarily."

I wonder anyone here would have an insight on this.

I also know that Mexican girls cannot get child support from American fathers, as the law requires both mother and father to sign the birth certificate. If you do not acknowledge that you are the father, the girl won't get child support. Is that the same in Philippines?

MD

Yes,There are many ways to avoid paying child support,For starters He can use all sort of legal dodges and avoid paying a dime.Poor girls do not have resources to come after youThat would be completely legal..But again I raise the issue of the right thing,IF the Kid is really your friend s,It doesnt cost much to raise a kid in the Philippines.100$ a month is plenty to put that kid in private school,house and clothe the kid etc.May I suggest that your friend have the girl sign a waiver absolving him of any responsibility for the child,But In return,Your friend undertakes to give a small stipend lets say 100$ for the Childs education etc.Come on,We all make mistakes and one should be willing to take responsibility for one's mistakes.But If your friend wants to dodge the responsibility PM me and I can give you advice to avoid paying the 100$ monthly

[Muf Diver]

During our last visit in November, my friend made a Davao girl pregnant. Against my advice, and the wisdom, he never used condom with her. He met her in a bar where she was with 4 other friends - none of them pros.
He is 25, and suspects that it is his kid. The girl told him that she was a virgin (!) and he said that is why he used no condoms (stupid idiot!).

My question is: Could the girl get a child support Order in Philippines and come after him in California? He makes good money. He has no intent to see her again even if the kid is his! But, he would like to help her "Voluntarily."

I wonder anyone here would have an insight on this.

I also know that Mexican girls cannot get child support from American fathers, as the law requires both mother and father to sign the birth certificate. If you do not acknowledge that you are the father, the girl won't get child support. Is that the same in Philippines?

MD

[X Man]

Mahku, you must be great husband material since women seem especially motivated to marry you. Either that or you pick the wrong women. :-)

I've received the "late period / might be pregnant" email twice. On both occasions I ignored the email and the subject never came up again.

In all fairness, it might not be an attempted scam as it was in DSs case, but a test of committment.

Nevertheless, as one of my Filipina friends once said to me, "Filipinos love to make babies."

Every one of my trips to the Philippines has at least one girl trying to pull some pregnancy ploy, 'my period is late,' etc.

From my last visit in November a girl is saying she's 5 months pregnant. And of course she had claimed to be a virgin so it could only be mine, yada yada. Even though I was wearing a condom it must have leaked, bla bla. The girl had her clothes off and was in bed within 5 minutes of coming to the room, some virgin. I wonder how many other guys she's trying this with and who fell for it.

Never send money or accept any responsibility until there's clear, unbiased proof that it's yours.

[Mahku]

Every one of my trips to the Philippines has at least one girl trying to pull some pregnancy ploy, 'my period is late,' etc.

From my last visit in November a girl is saying she's 5 months pregnant. And of course she had claimed to be a virgin so it could only be mine, yada yada. Even though I was wearing a condom it must have leaked, bla bla. The girl had her clothes off and was in bed within 5 minutes of coming to the room, some virgin. I wonder how many other guys she's trying this with and who fell for it.

Never send money or accept any responsibility until there's clear, unbiased proof that it's yours.

[Tiger 888]

Well, we all got to learn. I was lucky so far. No kids with the wrong girls. Got married to a girl from Guangzhou 1990. Divorced just on time. She was even cheating her father for money as I learned later. Luckily at that time she already got a good job in Germany so I didn't have to pay a lot. But she tried hard for it.
By the way, I don't remember having enquired about Davao, since 2 years back was my first trip to the Filipines but with family in Boracay for scubadiving.
I normally stay in HK, China, Thailand.