Filipinas - Opinions and Advice

[GoodEnough]

I was recenty reading a book on the social history of the Philippines, hoping it would give me some insight into the culture here. I am, by training, a Sociologist, yet the more time I spend here, the less I understand the cultural/social dynamics of the place. So much for my motivation. One of the most valid points the author made was that Westerners typically believe that, because the Philippines is the only "Christian" country in SE Asia, and because the Spanish and then the Americans were here for a combined 450 years, and because people speak (sort of) English, then it must be fairly Western and thus reasonably easy for a Westerner to understand. What Westerners fail to understand, he says, is that the whole Christian/European pretext is a mere chimera; a thin patina overlaying a culture deeply rooted in mysticism, mystery and magic.

This may help to explain why even well-educated Filipinos are incredibly superstitious, believe firmly in ghosts and spirits, and accept as literal truth, totally non-rational apocrypha passed on for generations. My girlfriend for example, who is reasonably well educated, cautioned me once against eating chicken mixed with squash that had been prepared by the maid. She warned me it could make me ill; even deathly ill, as that's what her great grandfather, her grandfather, her father and her mother had told her. When I asked her why it hadn't sickened the maid, she told me it was because "the maid did not believe in it and therefore, could not be affected." It appeared however that because my girlfriend believed in it I could be sickened.

I am not a Catholic, in fact I'm not even a Christian, and yet I find I know more, much more about Catholicism, and the history of Christianity than the vast majority of Filipinos, who love the mystery, or the magic of it all, but who really do not know very much about the history of their religion. The Catholicism practiced here is adapted to the ethos of the place. Very evangelical, very non-traditional.

Now couple all of this sense of mystery and this acceptance of demons, ghosts and all manner of mystical creatures with an educational system that's the most poorly funded in SE Asia, and which discourages any form of analytical thought. A system that lacks text books for its students, paper, rudamentary learning materials, or even enough chairs for students. Add to that a virtually bankrupt government that simply cannot afford additional investments in health care, education or social services, and what you get is a culture which neither fosters much intellectualism, nor art nor alot of positive expectations.

This is a culture that nurtures fantasy, dreams, and the illogical. It's a country whose politicians have names like "Joker" and "Boy" and where many, if not most, of the population visits the cemetary on All Souls Day to commune with the spirits of their ancestors. It's why those "crazy" movies don't seem nutty to most Filipinos. It's the fantasy, the escapism, that allows them to retain hope in the midst of hopelessness.

This is my take on the place. I have no idea if this is accurate or just a paradigm that makes sense only to me. I do know that Filipinos are among the gentlest and warmest people I've ever met, and they deserve to be judged in a less harsh light than that provided by Western culture.

GE

[Frequent Flier]

QUOTE=Domino]
Can't say I knew about ther growth cream (does it work on dicks?). [/QUOTE]


Hey Domino,

Your post reminded of a comedian I saw one night about 20 years ago. He was talking about the bid dick cream that you could rub on your dick to make it bigger. It would take about a month of daily therapy for the full effect to take place. He asked the audience. " Well, wouldn't it make your hand bigger too?"

The height cream is really a riot. Great trick photography or actually trick camera work. They will show a man or woman standing beside the interviewer. The interviewer is always a lady and she is always at least 12 inches taller. Then the vertically challenged person takes the cream and they do the one month later thing. When the person shows up they are magically 12 inches taller than the interviewer. The cream is to be rubbed on the shin area. Then this area of your leg will lengthen giving you your extra height. That is how it works according to the commercial.

Damn! Why do I know so much about this crap? Help!

Oh yea! It is really quite funny. The actors are all Taiwanese and that is where the all these commercials originate from. They are speaking Taiwanese but there is a voice over in English. Very amusing.


FF

[Domino]

Women are right. Shopping is great fun. In America, Europe, ailses and aisles to feed dogs (instead of eating most of them),in Mexico makeup and in the Philippines, whitening cream. That stuff should be made illegal. Also lots of pharmacies (and bakeries). This means badly paid 20 year old babes are diagnosing illnesses and dishing out pills to deal with them.

Can't say I knew about ther growth cream (does it work on dicks?). But here is a puzzle: why are a literate people like the Phils into all that shit? It also makes you wonder about infection rates and stuff like that. There must be a large hidden population of HIV/syphilis/ God knows what people there. But maybe the creams work on them too?

[Frequent Flier]

GE and Ricksan,

I really can't believe that the two of you missed the last main indicator of the girl’s true intelligence and place in society in the PI.

GE, I know you are wise enough to know this and Ricksan, based on your post you surely do know this as well. Domino, based on what I can tell of your style of mongering, which I admire greatly, you have probably not been exposed to this. Buy as always I am probably wrong.

Should I let you guys guess or should I lay down this one true piece of information?

OK here it is.

Does your Honey KO like to watch decent TV or when you walk in the room do you find her watching these crazy ass Filipino Tagalog movies that make absolutely no since. Not because of the Tagalog they speak, but because of all the crazy monster or demon costumes. Or the acting in the action movies and oh, the gun fights are a sight to behold.


I have watched movies in other foreign lands, where I could not understand one bit of the language and believe me it comes no where close to comparing to the PI contribution to the TV cinema.

And then there is one more?

Have you had a look in the girl’s closet or bathroom stash to find the growth cream that will increase you height, bust enlargement cream, skinny cream, scar removal cream or the whiting cream. I know I am missing a few here.

This is actually a trick question or statement I guess as it makes no difference. There is no difference in the social status as they all watch the Tagalog crap movies and have at some time another purchased the rose petal cure all concoction, along with some of the other crap mentioned above that you see advertised on TV out of Taiwan.

Guess the fact that I know so much about this stuff means I am in their class as well.

Oh well, when in Rome




FF

[Domino]

GE: I figured there would be a lot of forging documents for a fee. Chcking out the visa section of the J Embassy in Manila, hey seem to be aware of that. But I went into Tokyo immigration today and no 4 year qualification, no visa. Entertainers are currently the only exception and the Japanese authorities wil clamp on that in time. I will check out agencies etc when I return to Manila in a few weeks.
Iwill pm you when I am next back in town. I might even make it back to Davao as they were cute.
4x2: Thanks for your offer of help but I think we have to review the situation back in Manila first. It is probably not a feasible idea to bring them here. They are all so poor and desperate. Even keeping a part time mistress in Manila sems a good idea until the family kicks in. I know this issue has been done to death on the Thai board but Thailand is financially miles ahead of the Philippines.

These ladies are good, nice, daughters of the soil and all the rest. But they are dirt poor and that unbridgeable void is there again. I just fuck them out of pity. I really think we have to keep distance between us and them. Maybe the frigid straweberries of Ateneo etc have the right idea.

[GoodEnough]

"My advice to you would be to hook up with a semi-reputable "recruitment/placement" company here. I could probably find you a few contacts if you like, as I know one lady who has been there six times.: What do you mean by this?" Entertainers?

Yup, entertainers. There are, in fact ways for these girls, be they domestic helpers or entertainers, or whatever to get the "certifications" now required by the Japanese, and there are agencies now helping the girls get the requisite stuff. That's all I meant. I happen to know of one or two of them here in Davao because I know a couple of women who are using the services.

I don't know much about the "backdoor" approach that you mentioned. There is a general panic here at some pretty high levels about what this reduction in the number of overseas workers will mean to the economy. The outlook is not pretty.

GE

[Domino]

I checked out some more on this. No way of bringing unskilled pussy in except through the backdoor:(

GE: Please do not mention French wines in the same paragraph as Wallmart crap. Also, I do not think Ricksam got your wisecrack about hairys in Paris;)

"My advice to you would be to hook up with a semi-reputable "recruitment/placement" company here. I could probably find you a few contacts if you like, as I know one lady who has been there six times.: What do you mean by this?" Entertainers?

[GoodEnough]

Ah Ricksan, if you've not been with French women with shaved pits, then either you're hanging out with the wrong class of women entirely, you have not been in Paris since the liberation, or you took a wrong turn and went to Les Jardins Zoologique rather than Les Tuileries. I have found French wenches lustry and enthusiastic in the sack though not up to Filipina standards. Filipinas are, as you point out correctly the non pareils of lubricious sex, and truly beyond compare.

As to the comparison between such stellar Napa wines as Carlo Rossi, and Gallo, and actual French Cabernets, Pinot Noirs, Beaujolais, and the like, I can only suggest it's analogous to comparing Budweiser to Remy Martin XO. You can drink them both, but they sure as hell taste different. This is said of course facetiously. There are some truly great Ca. wines, and I've enjoyed my share. The problem I have is that the really good California stuff never makes it beyond the borders of California, while it's possible to get good, if not great. French wine almost anywhere.

Hello John. I know several young, attractive, sexy women here, waiting for Japanese visas. All of them have been there before, and all know what to expect. To date, none of them have received permission to go back and I doubt they ever will. Thanks to the moral majority in America, which considers fucking next to godlessness, the Japanese are really cracking down. This does not bode well for your venture.

My advice to you would be to hook up with a semi-reputable "recruitment/placement" company here. I could probably find you a few contacts if you like, as I know one lady who has been there six times.

GE

[Ricksan]

Domino,

A lofty goal, entering a new line of business like that.

Considering your request, I would consider that a franchise agreement that you are actually looking for, or perhaps an import-export agreement.

However, looking back in my files, I found a handy contract that may help you in your situation. You can pay me back the next Friday night we are together by grabbing that rope and ringing the bell at my favorite Burgos bar with a hearty yee haa.

As promised, enclosed is a handy-dandy contract that will take care of your needs. (All virus free and tidy for her signature)

Consider it a gift from Ricksan.

Cheers,

Ricksan

(Attachment Bar Girl Service Contract)

[Domino]

My name is John Domino and I am a sexoholic. (Hello John). Here are my twelve steps. Perhaps you can help me:

1. The Japanese government has decimated the number of entertainment visas it will give citizens of the Philippines. Current visa holders will not be affected. Nor will those on short term yakuza controlled contracts.
2. Domino and friends are thinking of entering this market with a few pilot projects and any help or information would be appreciated.
3. We will begin by sponsoring, in a private capacity, Filippinas to fly to Japan and meet Mr Domino and his associates. This will entail Mr Domino forking up the readies to jet these ladies here and guaranteeing them their payment. (Domino is not into ripping off the poor; like the yakuza he only targets the rich).
4. If Domino does this through a company and not in a private capacity, he will have to guarantee sizeable, taxable sums of money. Domino does not believe in paying tax.
5. The current deal, as Domino understands it, is the ladies pay an agency 30k pesos and the agency fixes them up with cleaning or whatever work in Hong Kong or Singapore and, of course, rips them off big time.
6. Domino is not into that. He iseasily pleased and will be happy just to fuck them and the Lexus :( Japanese babes who are collaborating with him in this noble project.;)
7. Have these women a good work ethic? One reads of Sing. women beating up their Phil maids etc and one knows it is difficult to hire good servants these days. But one imagines, taking the law of averages into account, a lot of these women are simply dreamers and do not have a well developed work ethic.
8. One also believes many of these women are very naiive and cannot figure out that there is no such thing as a free lunch, that if they can earn 20 times more by working in Japan.HK/Sing, there is often a major catch to the situation.
9. This is a genuine request for information. Although I have some leads intpo the netherworld of Japan's night world, I am currently looking at bringing eligible young women to Japan as maids and basic English teachers and then allowing my associates, after I fuck them, to develop this into a fully fledged and somewhat honorable business.

[Ricksan]

my three cents worth on the subject of wine, women and song.

oh contrare, i would agree that while french wines have their bouquet, at least i can identify which vineyard grew those delightful grapes in an excellent napa valley wine, which i can't always tell in some of that ghastly pomerol they serve over there in the land of the pate.

the same goes for the women i have entertained in the boidoir during my short time here on planet earth. personally i love a lusty wench as much as the next man (or woman in certain circles), but the finer points of grooming, such as armpits and legs need to be considered in the francophile female.

those dainty lilies of the valley in the provincial countryside do give a hearty bellow when confronted with the likes of ricksan in the ole sack, but give me a doe eyed filipina with the promise of true lust in her eyes and the reality of a romp of their life, without the catholic voices in her head telling her its the wrong thing to do for the first time in her short existence here on earth... ah, the promise, the possibilities!

vive la france! but all bow to the filipina of your dreams, lads.

thank all of you for your praise and comments and i hope we take the board to a higher level of manuscript than the price of poontang on burgos.

after 58 foreign countries and a hell of a lot of brothels, i can attest that there is no equal to the lust of a filipina darling, properly trained and conditioned of course. it can be a lot of work, but has an extraordinary payoff for those willing to learn the ropes.

this thread explores the mind and soul of the classic filipina. i hope we can all learn more on how they tick, so we can find the easier ways to have them succumb to the sins of the flesh in marvelous ways, yet to be explored.

share stories, gain insight, and compare notes. one can only improve themselves and their love life by studying the mind (and of course body) of the young darlings of this country, and elsewhere of course.

parts of enlightenment are astonishment, illumination and insight, and not necessarily in that order.

continue the debates guys and gals, i love the discourse!

regards,

ricksan

[The Gratifier]

Ricksan, GE, Domino - Thanks!

Long Stoker, you beat me to it in your compliments to Ricksan, GE, and Domino. I am in the same boat as you also have never visited the PI so I can not contribute my experiences, but I can appreciate the stellar quality of the recent posts. I thank each of you for your eloquent and insightful contributions and enjoy being a spectator of the literary competition between GE and Domino.

Ricksan - Dude, your cogent summary of Filipinas was truly an afflatus, a devine inspiration. You should be proud. Further, it is testimony to powerful effect that one's words and actions can have on others, and in your case, the ramifications were very positive. Thank you.

[GoodEnough]

Et n'oublions pas joie de vivre! And of course, the French make the best wines as well, so put that on the platinum card while you're at it.

Well done Domino. Well done!

[Domino]

Ever notice how many words the French have for sheer elegance and nuanced passion? The Francophobes on this board really [CodeWord140] me off, uncooth wretches that they are. So do the cheap Charlies, paying the barest minimum. There is a type of lady, one who is cultured, well dressed, well mannered and bred, who wears the finest brand name clothes (and wears them well) and bathes herself in the most fragrant perfumes, who is a joy to the eye as well as the heart and soul. For that lady, you should always keep your platinum credit card in hand. And be glad of the privilege to pamper her with whatever she wants.

There is your earthy Sam Miguel type, the honest, big chested wenches who are best taken in pairs (I am meeting stubborn resistance against 3 somes in the Phils). These ladies are also delectable though one would hardly want to introduce to the President of France, or your wife for that matter, on Bastille Day.

And then there are the anorexic Atteneo/ De La Salle strawberries. Which is what the French Revolution was all about in the first place.

France is, as well as being the center of the romantic universe, the maker of the world's best perfumes. Stop quibbling about hiring a hooker for a few pesos. Go out and buy the lady some good perfume.
Domino
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Vive l'amour;)

[Long Stroker]

and I just wanted to compliment the truly excellent posting that's going on here. We all have different opinions, yet we can gather here on WSG in an effort to win converts and to vanquish non-believers. Domino and GE, you guys are great. It's really a pleasure to read one of your well-crafted posts.

Ricksan, you don't say much (only 4 posts) but when you do, you really open the floodgates! Slapping your balls on the table like that really helps make for stimulating discussion. Thanks for decloaking and sharing your experiences.

Having never visited the Philippines, I have no personal encounters to reflect on. I just wanted you guys to know that the time you've taken to post your thoughts is appreciated.