Filipinas - Opinions and Advice

[GoodEnough]

My Advice:

As an alternative to getting married to a Filipina, consider buying a dog instead. The dog will be cheaper, more faithful, honest at all times, and will love you unconditionally. It will not be sending your money back to a range of others from the litter, will not be randomly fucking another dog who comes along with a convincing story, and will not be constantly moaning that it's been months since you bought her a new collar. Also, it's likely that the dog will have better manners and be less vicious.

I have made this point before, but it cannot be restated too many times. Unless you can find a Filipina from the upper 1% stratum of society here: one who is directly descended from the Spanish, has had an excellent education, and who grew up with real money, forget it. For the most part, the quality of university education here is not even equivalent to education at good high schools in the US or Europe, and the level of intellectual processing is between small and non existent. Even teachers here go through the equivalent of a mediocre two year community college in the US.

Unless you want a life partner who believes that soap operas are the highest esthetic attainment of human kind, and that magazines with lots of pictures are the avatars of great literature, stick with the dog.

GE

[Rev333]

My advice to Columpuss,

If your looking for a wife try to stick by these guidelines:

If your worried that a girl will take you for your money, when dating her, spend nothing on her as if you had nothing. Then if she still is interested in you then she is in it for the money.
NEVER MARRY A CLUB GIRL. I can't express this enough, case in point, friend of mine married a girl that used to work in a club as a dancer, they got married and came to the states. She is for the most part a good person but she reverted back to being a stripper. This upsets him because she was going to school, working a normal job and just quit because its not the kinda life she is used too. Needless to say they are technically still married but she told him to find a girlfriend and shut her legs to him. Thats just one example, I have plenty.

If your determined to marry a foreign national, like I did, go for a girl that is not used to city life, of maybe a student(be careful with them too)Maybe even a slightly older woman or a girl that has a job like a hairstylist or teacher(something legit). The benefits of marriage varies, one benefit that I find to be the best is having children. But like Vchip said, only you can decide what it is you would like to do. This is just some suggestions, things i went by in choosing my wife. Ive been married for four years and have to kids, I dated my wife for about a year and a half before we decided to get married, I met her through a coworkers wife. Things have pretty much been great over the four years and ofcourse we have fights, everyone does, but other than that, its been great. But I still monger,LOL.

Rev333

[Vchip]

Columpuss,

Ref. the discussion in the photo thread. Everyone is different. You know best what makes you happy and what you want out of life, not me or other WSG members so you are going to have to decide yourself if you want to get married. My personal feeling is one should only seriously consider getting married if he is madly in lust with the girl (this won't last forever). Aside from lust they truly enjoy each others company, share like values and have good temperment, and they both want to raise a family. When people marry they are all pretty confident that their marriage will last forever; however about half don't. If you ever do decide to get married be sure to get a legal pre-nuptial agreement and keep it in a safe place. Good luck.

[Wildone59]

I looked at this,

http: //www. michaelbeard. com/PageOneNew. html,

The one pic of him and the girl clearly shows that she is very young, and of questionable age, in his story it had about ten red flags: first was the families quick agreement to money, second was where there were at, third was the high price of the bar fine, ect ect and ect, and lastly to actualy see the grandmother beating her, which was probably because the grandmother was not getting any money and the girl was not hustling enough money from the guy.

After all of the above and having a cooling off period, then finding her back at the bar again. (Run! Forest, Run! )

I would have run home, but he went back to the barungay captain (most of these guys are crooks) and when he asked for the motorcycle and gave the guy a chance to leave? (Run! Forest, Run! )

I haven't always done the best for myself but I have not ever been this stupid.

I do know the majority of the poorer asian countries sell daughters into prostitution, its part of the culture thats happened for thousands of years, even in Japan daughters are sold.

I do think that was part of my exwife problem that she would not or could not admit too was that she had been sold by her family wether that was by her mother who is dead or her father who is still around is unknown. I would be willing to bet that allot of these girls are tweaked in the head, especially when the are from the poorer families.

My exwife used to comment 'My father never showed us his love'.

[Genuis8]

The best condoms in the PI is made in Japan. The brand is OKAMOTO, just tell the drugstore you want the Point-Oh-Two (0.02mm) condom. it is the thinnest but really strong. However if you are caucasian, you might complain it is too tight for you.

[Wander Luster]

My appologies if this has been asked before. There is no working seach feature on the site.

Can you buy GOOD or VERY GOOD (maybe American or Japanese) condoms in the PH? In Cebu? Especially the ultra thin or slippery slidy kind ?I'll be there for a very long time and can't get away with stuffing my whole suitcase full before I leave.

Thanks!

WL

[GoodEnough]

Spitfire:

Thanks for responding with the location so quickly. I never knew there were places with bar fines so steep. It sounds like a good place to miss, so I will not go there.

[Slickery]

I met them on filipina heart. I reported them to the site and their profiles are gone but I am sure they will be back with another profile. I think I will take all the great advice I have been given and save my money for when I go there. If I find the girl to be to my likeing i will buy her gifts at that time.

Thanks again for the advice

Slickery

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[Cebu Steve]

GoodEnough,

I've read and enjoyed and learned from many of your posts.

Your comment:

"If the story is true, I hope the US State Department reads it and begins to require an intelligence test prior to the issuance of passports. No one this stupid should be allowed out of his house, let alone the country".

That just cracked me up. Next time I'm in the PI, I definitely hope I get a chance to meet you and buy you a drink.

CS

[NZ Mike]

Slickery,

A fair amount for those girls who say they love you and want you to send money would be a kick up the arse and out the door when you finally catch up with those thieving mercenary cows.

GE is right save your money for a ticket and then pay them for a bang and a BJ if they're hot and then show them the door and move on to the next one and the next and the next one and the next one etc.

[Spitfire]

GoodEnough,
Athena is on Roxas in Pasay City.

If memory serves, it's next to another similar place called Miss Brunette. It's an overpriced place, cover charge of 800 pesos and barfines of 5,000 - 10,000 depending on what you negotiate with mama. The girl's fee is included in the barfine.

Not bad girls there, but you can do the same or better for less money.

[Wastrel]

“How much would be a fair amount to send…”

There are thousands of guys who will nod their heads in agreement with Goodenough’s suggested amount. And probably most of them have had ulcers watching guys go and do it anyway in spite of much sound advice illustrated with many colorful examples drawn from experience, so I won’t even try proclaim what someone else “should” do, even though I like GE’s math. But just in case it has any slight interest for Slickery and others similarly situated, here are Wastrel’s Rules for Filipina correspondents, not as a prescription, just to report what has worked out best for me.

Wastrel’s Rules:

1. If she has never, ever, not once even hinted at anything financial after months of fascinating correspondence, she may receive a once per anum gift of up to 5,000php max. for her and her family for the holidays;

2. If she has very tactfully and indirectly hinted at an unmet financial need for some heart wrenching purpose, she gets nothing, not even a direct reply, and definitely not an explanation, but she may or may not be permitted to continue communication with Wastrel depending on how interesting/entertaining Wastrel finds her correspondence, and whether she insults Wastrel by trying it again;

3. If she asks for money, she gets a jar of strawberry jam, because she is toast.

Good luck.

[Frequent Flier]

Slickery,

Not only are you wasting money you could put to use funding a trip to the Philippines, but if you send these girls any amount of money the amount that you send will become inadequate almost imediately for the hospital bills for the sick relatives or a host of other excuses.

They will continue to try to get more and more from you. If you do visit they will have the whole family waiting for you to give them late Christmas presents (money) unless of course you actually visit during Christmas.

Save your money for yourself or give to a honest charity. It is not that some of these girls and their families couldn't use the extra money. It is what they actually do with the money you send them.

Where did you meet these girls?

FF

[GoodEnough]

Flying Scotsman:

Where is Athena? In all the times I have been to Manila, I've never heard of it, and I'm sure I've never seen it. Is it a typical EDSA/Burgos-type bar, or something different?

I don't know if the story is true either, except that all the detals he provided make me think that it could be. If the story is true, I hope the US State Department reads it and begins to require an intelligence test prior to the issuance of passports. No one this stupid should be allowed out of his house, let alone the country.

Slickery - A fair amount would be zero. Before you start considering sending money, you better make sure you're the only one sending it (doubtful) and that the girls "love" is real (doubtful) and that she's not simultaneously making the same requests of several other guys (highly probable). save your money and use it for plane tickets.

GE

[Wander Luster]

For those of you that have used the online meeting / dating / marraige / freind Web sites to find woman in the PH that are "good to go" without an extended courting ritual, which sites do you prefer.

I've been using filipina heart, and there are certainly a large number of woman on this. I just wonder whether 95% of these filipinas are just looking for a long term relationship which is not what I want.

What about Freindfinder? If it's very name implies something not too serious like marriage or relationship, is it more fertile hunting ground?

WL