Filipinas - Opinions and Advice

[Tanker]

CanContrib,

Thank you for your input on this. I know she won't go for me playing around with other women. If I did that I'd have to be very careful and cover my tracks completely. She's a great girl, as I'm sure you can imagine. I've never had a GF who could even come close to her in quality and affection and anything else you can think of. I'll be in Manila in November, so if you want to get together while I'm there just let me know through this board. I'll keep buying the san migs until you stop talking.

[CanContrib]

Tanker, if you feel you *really* know her then give it a try. What's the worst that can happen? You can wake up with all your stuff and money gone someday? Or you may wake up to her every morning that you want to.

Yes, that's actually possible. I have a few friends that are not the jealous type. One of them has on two occasions said to me "sure, go ahead if you like her" while sitting right there.
One night she even texted me asking if she could bring a friend over who needed a place to stay the night, and a few hours later she cheerfully went to sleep while her friend made me quite happy. We actually talked about that last week and she said "well, she liked you and you liked her, so why not; I was sleepy anyway". Then again, I similarily respect her right to go play with whoever she wants to, so I would expect your "arrangement" can't be all that much different. Filipinas that consider themselves committed to you tend to expect the same in return - to extreme. Geez if I'm not home at a reasonable hour akin asawa flips out worrying about me. She's told me she'll give me my freedom anytime I want, or stay with me for life, but I definately understand that with her it's one or the other. She's one to keep but those don't tend to let you have any fun elsewhere.

Maybe yours is different? Be interesting to read your update a few months or years from now. Best of luck!

[Tanker]

thanks for the reply, chacho. i know that no woman can ever be happy if she knows her man is fucking around. i just get the impression that filipinas might be able to live with it to some degree more than some other women due to cultural influences. my future father-in law had a mistress quite openly apparently for several years, and mama wasn't happy about it, but he doesn't seem to be paying a high price now for the good times back in the day. i'm not planning to do anything out in the open like that, but in the philippines, there are so many opportunities that you'd have to be almost in a coma not to indulge. if i did something along those lines, it would be discreet and hopefully, even though women have a radar for that kind of thing, i'd possibly be able to get away with it unrep001hed.

anyway, i'm still tossing this one around. i'll figure something out eventually. happy hunting.

[chacho]

Tanker,

Well, it seems as if you have a wee bit of mongering to get out of your system before you settle down. As much of a gem as the gal might be, it's probably best to drop her gently. Trust me! when a woman says that she doesn't mind if her man fuks other women, she's lying.

I would guess that your gal is hoping that she'll be able to put it on you so hard, that you won't feel the need to fuk other women.

You know, most men reach a point in their lives when they realize that fuking aroung is costly, time consuming etc., and they would be better off settling down. The thing of it is, until a guy completely reaches that stage, there's no need to force yourself into something that you aren't ready for.

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[Tanker]

CanContrib

Great post; some very useful information. I'm struggling with my future plans with a filipina vs my need to play around. My girl will say that she just wants me to love her and she doesn't care if I have other GFs as long as she doesn't know about them, but I'm pretty sure that she's just trying to get me to promise that I won't have others.

As I see it, I have 3 options:

1. Be totally honest and tell her that I'll be very good to her, but I intend to play around.

2. Lie like a mother-fucker and tell her she'll always be the only one.

3. Cut her loose and live an empty life of fucking whoever I want without guilt (maybe just a little).

This little filipina is a world class babe and the sweetest girl I ever met and we love each other. I think I fell in love with her while we were having a casual conversation as she was washing my underwear by hand, happy as a proverbial clam. I don't want to give her up and I don't want to hurt her, but the latter may be a given no matter what I do, and the former might just be the right thing to do.

I appreciate any input you have on this topic since you seem to have some insight in this area and it might help some other guys as well.

[Pinay Lover]

Hello and thank you, CanContrib and Moconista, for your advise and insights on filipinas.

I've been coming and going in the Philippines for 7 years now and finally learned the language (passable). I must admit that I was enjoying myself with the availabily of the girls you can have for the first couple of years. Lately with the work and travel, it is hard sometimes to find the time.

One thing I do like about filipinas compared to other girls in asia or europe. That when you have sex with them, it is like your making love to your girlfriend not a girl you just barfined. They even kiss very passionately, too. That is why I learned to respect these ladies because of the double lives they live.

I am still uneasy of the tag "my foreigner boyfriend" when I'm around one of my steady girls. One of the girls I call on often is a 19 year old student that I met that works part-time at the bookstore in the mall below me. Haven't slept with her yet since she says she's still a virgin but I can wait. There are others around. She makes great company when I want to act like a overgrown kid.

Besides, sometimes I don't have to try and they still try to get my attention. I'm 40+ and I have college girls hitting on me. Would never happen to me in the States. Now that I'm pretty settle in the P.I., it will be hard for me to return Stateside. It is good to know that there are people who have been around longer and are willing to share their experience and advise.

I'm back in the states for another two weeks and it has been a dry two weeks already. I can't wait to get back to my lovely ladies that will be glad to see me once more. Besides, even calling with pre-paid phone cards can still be expensive will all the females I have to call and tell I haven't forgotten them.

Thank you once more, gentlemen.

[Marconista]

Salamat Po, CanContrib. Knew we could trust you and CebuLocal to contribute on this valuable thread.

But for sure - there must be more gents out there (Pinoy-Gents also) with various opinions, and advice to give, after having lived in RP for years, or visited regularly.

[CanContrib]

This html-ish quoting thing to intersperse tidbits is going to be hard, but I'll try to get it right.
To this point has taken some substantial recursive editing, so there really should be an easier way. ... anyway,

This new section should be affectionately entitled
"Proper Care and Feeding of Filipinas". :)

Just don't feed them *too* well once they're living with you or they'll go to sleep too soon, happy for what's the right reason for them but not exactly for you. If I followed my own advice properly then I wouldn't be posting this right now, but it's not that big a problem one way or another when it's "time".

Originally posted by Marconista
It is a pleasure for me to open this thread, although I may have limited experience compared to a lot of the members contributing regularly on WSG.[/i]

Marconista, you did a fine *fine* job. I could easily just write ... "yeah, what he said", but to neglect to add anything useful just isn't my style so apologies if this turns out a bit longish.

Originally posted by Marconista
I hope that CanContrib and Cebulocal can give more specific info on this thread, being ?old-timers? both in RP and on this forum. [...]

Regular Filipinas (not working girls): I find it hard to meet and date a regular pinay as my days are fully booked.
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Yes, that's a problem. Not an problem finding available filipinas, just a problem finding the *time* to do something with them, and then finding one who doesn't mind seeing you when *you* tell them you finally can. Can do though.

Originally posted by Marconista
I try to go to the malls during the weekends, but even so, the girls you pick up are mostly semi-pro. But if you are in Manila for some time, you can date and after a while bed some of these cuties. But bedding is not likely after the first date. Remember that the regular girls are Catholics, the live with their families, and must be home at certain hours in the evening. But when you get that lucky, to meet an office girl, and invite her out for dinner at a nice place in Greenbelt, they get emotional, and sort of fall for you, wanting to make you happy, and finally sleep with you. This only happened to me this last visit, when I had some time to work things out. And the bonus - she was a virgin!
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"Salamat na lang" to the mall pimps, and I just smile back at the real girls politely. If a real girl is sufficiently interested, she'll get her cell# to me someway discretely.

You got a bonus! You found the only one! I'm not sure what I'd do if I ever encountered a *real* virgin. In theory unless they're married, they're all "virgins" in this catholic country. In theory I'm sure you can even fine "married virgins". In real life, I've never met any girls at all who are real virgins, though of course in *theory* they all are. Maybe some way way down in the provinces where I've not been, or the very sweet very young girl I passed up last year because not touching her was the right thing to do.

Yes, if you treat them decently, with respect, but still making sure they know you're interested in more than "just dinner", when they do sleep with you they will do it because they love you. You figure out what to do with that little detail in the morning if you have any heart. My answer is that of course I will see them again soon, and do so. Eventually they move on anyway leaving you with a clear conscience and fond memories of them.

Originally posted by Marconista
Working Girls: Not even depending on where you hang out in Manila, it is so easy to pick them up. But the attitude of the ladies may differ big time. If you become a regular, and act nicely, the ladies are really good to you.[/i]

Yup. I think we already have enough accumulated evidence of that posted here.

Originally posted by Marconista
Internet-girls: Internet is such a nice inventions meeting people across the Globe. And I have been using it extensively for ?research? prior to my travels. I started out with Microsoft Messenger, and looked in to the address-books of MSN, targeting some ladies (preferably with pictures), sent them a few emails, depending on their location. As I normally hang out in Malate, I search for girls in that area, asking about places to go, bands playing and so on. Most of them came
back with info to me, and then I added them to my messenger and started chatting nicely when they appeared there. Got me two different girls (lays) on one trip, but one of the girls was working in a bar, the other was 19 and had worked in a bar for one year. So I paid them for their services. Three other girls that I chatted with I did not have time to meet with this last time, but I still keep in touch with them. After some time I started to use Yahoo Messenger. More Pinays are to be found on Yahoo
(.. +SMS details ... )
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Won't bore anyone with private stories of how I wound up in Phils in the first place, but let's just say I knew her very well before I got here. Everything we had talked about happened, and happened very fast, which surprised her but didn't surprise me. Even today I get a whole lot more happiness from her than complaints, which is something one normally only dreams about but never expects.

Isolated instance? Not really. I started chatting with another fine lady around the same time, but she had some things to work through. I gave her the proper advice and then after more than a year of her prodding I finally gave her the few hours she's wanted for so long to "make me happy". She was every bit as good with me as she said she wanted to be and she's made it clear that now she doesn't want to have to wait so long for the next time. Maybe next week I can do that again.

Ok, lucky twice? What about the friend I finally had dinner with about a year ago and then we didn't chat much until a little while ago? She came right out and told me a few of weeks ago that next time I should expect her to make love with me for her first time since her "first time" many years ago (and I *know* just how wild that makes them when it happens like that). Why *me*? Well, I'm here and her so-called foreigner "boyfriend" just isn't showing up to whisk her away like he promised, and I'm her good friend. I have an advantage. I'm here and real to her, and she needs some practice and wants me to help her with that.

Lucky again when I get around to it? Chatted with a new one yesterday, "just friends". Fine with me. She said I'll *never* take her home with me. Ok. Told me on second chat today that we'll only ever just be friends. But, then when I said that's just fine, suddenly she seems hurt because I just took what she said at face value. Suddenly there's strong hints that maybe just maybe her intentions could easily be more than "just friends" ... and can I meet her soon? Sorry, not soon, that'll have to wait until she's "ready" - by my definition and on my terms and turf.

Yeah, more isolated instances. Then there's the 19 year old who hit on me today. Could be nothing. "Just friends". Well, ummmm, maybe ummmm, she's chewing on the idea. Yeah. I know where she's wanting to head. Reminds me of the 18-year old that fell in love with me last year but I tried to let down very gently before anything actually happened. She was ready to follow me anywhere and no doubt would have. I bailed at the last moment, literally an hour before I was supposed to go & get her and take her to wherever I wanted to for the next few weeks for starters. She was absolutely beautiful too - still kicking myself for thinking of her future more than the enjoyment she would have given me.

Can you meet someone nice on yahoo, etc? Yes. Just remember most of them are human too, di ba?

Next question no one really asked: "Is there an age-barrier"?
Answer: depends. sometimes. Sometimes 10 years difference is too much. Sometimes 30-ish difference is just right, or anything in between. Figure it out with who you're talking to, it'll only take a few minutes. I've been called "lolo" (Tagalog for "grandpa") by ordinary girls who made love with me later. Go figure. Then again, they say I don't look or act like a "lolo" when they get to know me.

I thought about whether I should comment positively about e-chat-services, and concluded that the more the merrier. The more guys for the girls to chat with, the more of their cute yummy friends they'll bring along for their next online session. The more guys that act like idiots, the better it is for you and me when they finally get someone "decent" to talk to. Since there are increasingly more idiots than nice girls, we good guys win easily every time.

Originally posted by Marconista
Summing it up..Non-working girls become much more expensive than WG, for sure, ie dinner at nice places etc etc. And it takes time and endurance. But it is the hunt that is the best part, for me, and then of cause finally getting there...

Being nice to the ladies, WG or not, will give you a very good time, when visiting the beautifil island of the Philippines. I feel that most regulars can promise you that.
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Right. Be a good guy. You will be rewarded.

I know a few "working girls". They're friends, and we date when they don't have anything more profitable to do or when they just feel like it. I know a few "non-working" girls, same thing.
Irrespective of their occupation (or none), it's a toss-up between letting them find me electronically or in person. See where I wrote "them find me"? They hunt, I choose who may catch me. Try that back in North America when you're the wrong side of 50, needing to loose 30lbs, working like crazy but with no spare money? Do I ever want to leave this place? Just let them wear me out lovingly and bury me here with a big grin in a few decades.

Gentlemen, be decent exercising your advantages, because that's what gets you what you really want.

[Cebu Local]

I agree with marconista 100% since he has experienced the full spectrum of girls from working to normal,He is a member of a local board that I am also active on,my personal favorites though are the semi pros,the part timers since they are not hustlers like the bar girls,but you dont have to go through the hassle of courting a normal girl.plenty of those available regards

[Marconista]

It is a pleasure for me to open this thread, although I may have limited experience compared to a lot of the members contributing regularly on WSG.

I am travelling to Manila a couple of times a year, and have done so since 1996. My visits are about 1,5 to two weeks at the time, and I am there for business. Business means that our partners in Manila take well care of me when I am there, ie some arrangements every single day, with dinner parties etc. Luckily, they normally end not later than 10PM, so I have some time for the hobby. But the mornings are hard if you on a regular basis are heading off to the bars.

Regular Filipinas (not working girls): I find it hard to meet and date a regular pinay as my days are fully booked. I try to go to the malls during the weekends, but even so, the girls you pick up are mostly semi-pro. But if you are in Manila for some time, you can date and after a while bed some of these cuties. But bedding is not likely after the first date. Remember that the regular girls are Catholics, the live with their families, and must be home at certain hours in the evening. But when you get that lucky, to meet an office girl, and invite her out for dinner at a nice place in Greenbelt, they get emotional, and sort of fall for you, wanting to make you happy, and finally sleep with you. This only happened to me this last visit, when I had some time to work things out. And the bonus – she was a virgin!

Working Girls: Not even depending on where you hang out in Manila, it is so easy to pick them up. But the attitude of the ladies may differ big time. If you become a regular, and act nicely, the ladies are really good to you. The last two years my regular water-hole has been Casino Bar in EDSA, and the ladies, the bartenders, FM(mama-sans) all recognize me, and some even remember my name. Nobody ever try to rip me off with expensive Lady-drinks, but they have some soft-drinks or beer on my bill. And like some of you guys hanging out in Angeles, I make it a point to tell the girls that I am a butterfly, so that they can not expect me to BF them more than one time each time I visit Manila. And the ladies knowing that, there is no big deal when I come back the next evening. They are all sweet and nice, and know that I am looking for someone else for the next evening. But I buy them a drink, and tease them about the previous night, and they even blush when I whisper details into their ears..he he he..


Internet-girls: Internet is such a nice inventions meeting people across the Globe. And I have been using it extensively for “research” prior to my travels. I started out with Microsoft Messenger, and looked in to the address-books of MSN, targeting some ladies (preferably with pictures), sent them a few emails, depending on their location. As I normally hang out in Malate, I search for girls in that area, asking about places to go, bands playing and so on. Most of them came back with info to me, and then I added them to my messenger and started chatting nicely when they appeared there. Got me two different girls (lays) on one trip, but one of the girls was working in a bar, the other was 19 and had worked in a bar for one year. So I paid them for their services. Three other girls that I chatted with I did not have time to meet with this last time, but I still keep in touch with them. After some time I started to use Yahoo Messenger. More Pinays are to be found on Yahoo than on Microsoft/MSN. If they are on MSN, they are ALSO on Yahoo. There are also other possibilities, such as www.Chikka.com. You can search their site for ladies, add them to your software, and start SMS (text-messages on cellular-phones) them. I am not sure of how popular SMS is in the US, but here in Norway/Europe and in the RP it is POPULAR. The good thing for us, is that if you download the software, you can text them for free, but they have to pay php 2,5 for each reply they make to your text. Another alternative to meet lady-friends are on www.Crushcow.com. I believe they are partners with Chikka.

Summing it up..Non-working girls become much more expensive than WG, for sure, ie dinner at nice places etc etc. And it takes time and endurance. But it is the hunt that is the best part, for me, and then of cause finally getting there... Y

Being nice to the ladies, WG or not, will give you a very good time, when visiting the beautifil island of the Philippines. I feel that most regulars can promise you that


I hope that CanContrib and Cebulocal can give more specific info on this thread, being “old-timers” both in RP and on this forum.

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