Filipinas - Opinions and Advice

[PilotPaul]

I never thought I could be scammed. Wrong. Filipinas, especially if they are over the P. I. Average of 80 IQ are dangerous. Never assume they are going to be loyal and treat you honestly because 99.9 % of the time they are just faking emotional attachment. They lie even to themselves and see money=love. I was lucky I only got screwed out of a couple hundred bucks. Lesson learned. Also know that the government here will not treat you fairly as a foreigner and a totally different set of laws / rules apply to you and you can be accused and convicted of the most malicious lies with no evidence. It is really an uked up Country with no justice for foreigners and racist to boot.

I'm in the early stages with a scammer, met on pinalove nice provincial 24 yo girl, never married, one pinoy BF many years ago, IT grad, parents are local officials. No kids so still slim and quite sexy.

Early in the video chats she says she's a good girl, never do blow job, doesn't drink, just wants a good career.

Certainly sounds unique so I continued the chats.

It took three video chats over three days and then that third video chat she's on her bed naked, breasts out fingering herself. Boobs certainly look untouched by babies. So not as innocent as she said.

Two days later, a message that she lied and was married to a USA guy but now separated.

Early morning message today tells me she is drunk (but she doesn't drink!

Interestingly she always travels to her provincial city on a Friday afternoon and returns back to her provincial house (no signal!) on Monday morning. Interesting how her house where she doesn't have signal her viber can still show she checks messages but never replies at night. Most definitely in a domestic live-in arrangement, maybe still with a foreigner.

I'm good at detecting incongruity.

I think this is where potential scam victims fall into the trap.

So while her words may say she is pure her actions tell a different story. They are desperate to believe the sweet words (I love you, I miss you etc etc). It is interesting that while they are happy to sprout fake sweet words thinking we may be hooked on them in a few video calls it doesn't enter their mind to think my sweet words are also fake.

I'm happy to keep her in my database for a later fun weekend somewhere. She seems like she will take to my training very well.

PP.

[MutantChicken]

I have met several Flips who can be considered nutters. They're basically masters at manipulation and know how to act around someone in order to stay undetected. Flips see people as either potential targets, rivals, or predators. That's it. Just three categories. They don't see long-term connections, intimacy or growth in any of their relationships. They'll stay as long as they're getting what they want or until the bank account has been drained. Nothing is off limits and they nearly always have a justification, excuse, or reason for doing what they do.

With the case of Flips, the added motivation is seeking access to unearned fortune in the west and climbing the social ladder. They have seen how easy it is in "Pretty Woman" and have fantasied about the life of the lead character in "50 Shades of Grey". Every Flip I know thinks the latter movie is real and that's how couples are in the west. Even so called educated LBFMs are mesmerized by that trilogy. They are so childish and easily influenced.

I will add my 2 cents into this and maybe I'm getting caught up in a division that wasn't intended by the OP, but I am reading that he wants to say "flips" as like that whereas westerners / Australians aren't like that.

All I need to remind him is how many times have Australian wives divorced their husbands at times of financial difficulty IE money has run out or their husbands usefulness has diminished.

How man friends does he have that he has known since high school but once they get a GF / wife / have kids they too busy to answer a email / text until they want or need something from you.

So to say that long term connections, intimacy has no value in flip society is true across the world, so to draw attention to this issue here is a unfair conclusion.

The truth is if you act like a victim and make it easy for people to mistreat you, take unfair advantage of you then you will be the victim. The only difference is in Australia people won't scam you for under 1000 Aud, whereas here they will scam you for 100 peso.

[TurdyCurdyOne]

I have met several Flips who can be considered nutters. They're basically masters at manipulation and know how to act around someone in order to stay undetected. Flips see people as either potential targets, rivals, or predators. That's it. Just three categories. They don't see long-term connections, intimacy or growth in any of their relationships. They'll stay as long as they're getting what they want or until the bank account has been drained. Nothing is off limits and they nearly always have a justification, excuse, or reason for doing what they do.


With the case of Flips, the added motivation is seeking access to unearned fortune in the west and climbing the social ladder. They have seen how easy it is in "Pretty Woman" and have fantasied about the life of the lead character in "50 Shades of Grey". Every Flip I know thinks the latter movie is real and that's how couples are in the west. Even so called educated LBFMs are mesmerized by that trilogy. They are so childish and easily influenced.

I never thought I could be scammed. Wrong. Filipinas, especially if they are over the P. I. Average of 80 IQ are dangerous. Never assume they are going to be loyal and treat you honestly because 99.9 % of the time they are just faking emotional attachment. They lie even to themselves and see money=love. I was lucky I only got screwed out of a couple hundred bucks. Lesson learned. Also know that the government here will not treat you fairly as a foreigner and a totally different set of laws / rules apply to you and you can be accused and convicted of the most malicious lies with no evidence. It is really an uked up Country with no justice for foreigners and racist to boot.

[TurdyCurdyOne]

That's pretty harsh dude.

It might be harsh but it's generally true. Here in the P. I. If they have a kid they are invariably fat with no shape. It's nearly impossible to find one with breasts above an A cup that is not fat.

The attitudes of the ones under 30 have gone to h*ll and they are approaching the b*chiness of western women. Also Philippines is not so poor as they would have you think, many have money here but they just want to spend yours, not theirs.

[Pinaypounder]

That is just over minimum wage in Canada, they survive the same as do anyone else living on minimum wage, spend as little as possible, have very limited entertainment options etc. Many care givers get the $14/ HR and are live in so no rent or food bills.

Pinas have one advantage, they come from a culture that excels at living as economically as possible. You can buy chicken intestines on a skewer as street food or in the local markets, here, in Canada it is impossible to buy it at all. In supermarkets in affluent areas, it can be difficult to even find chicken liver and other low value cuts of meat.

There are also a significant number of Pinas in Canada supplementing their income the same way as they do here, on SA, PoF and other Canadian dating sites as well as an occasional one working in massage places getting tips for happy endings (although in my home city the Chinese have a lock on this trade.) They get Canadian prices for these services so it is relatively a lot more lucrative than here. ST can be $200 Cdn and up so a couple sessions doubles their income and they will hide it from the tax man as much as they can.

Western Canuck here and used to have Nannies and have met and fucked a few.

Couple of notes.

Liveins have Room and Board deducted from their wages.

Most have 2nd job for cash cleaning or babysitting.

Never encountered one as a prostitute or happy ending girl.

Some are shameless gold diggers but for the most part they are not, they are typically good women working hard.

When you compare here to HK or China or anywhere else they are glad to be here!

PP.

[Pinaypounder]

I have never seen a race that ages as badly as Flips. By the age of 40, most Flip women are walking blocks of flesh. Rather like brown refrigerators. 4'8" high and 4'8" wide. Hahaha. And their attitudes suck. Most who get to the west find that it's not quite like in the movies and their white husbands are indeed losers. Low class alcoholics who have been shunned by their families. I don't come across many Flips here in Australia, even though there are thousands of them. Canuck Land seems to be their Eldorado. The ones in Sydney all live in the western suburbs, in working class situations. They are nurses, caregivers, retail clerks or junior office admin types. When they board Cebu Pacific bound for Manila, they check in hundreds of tons of food items, packed in cardboard boxes and paid for by the white man, to give to their relatives. Hahaha.

I have a Filipina GF here now in Canuck land, where there are fricken millions of them my GF is 37 and has a good body. There are indeed many of them here that gain weight ASAP, access to Tim Hortons (where half of them work) increased disposal income and the cultural fact that exercise is foreign leads to them becoming small refrigerators which is sad because there are so many big white fridges already. In there defense many of them work 2 or more jobs to send money to their families and husbands back home. Most come here to work as Tourist Visas are hard to come by and marriage is a long process.

I am back there this fall for a long long overdue visit where I will be focused on the 80 pounders. Having lived with this one for a few months now I am not sure I can marry one until I am genuinely old. Their general lack of maturity and intelligence is annoying most days.

But I always treat them well and plan to share some of my forthcoming riches!

Be nice; Karma is a ***** boys.

[Engine Driver]

That's pretty harsh dude.

I did not expect so many mongers who spend their spare time chasing hookers all over the world to be so woke.

[Rickys Wild]

I have never seen a race that ages as badly as Flips. By the age of 40, most Flip women are walking blocks of flesh. Rather like brown refrigerators. 4'8" high and 4'8" wide. Hahaha. And their attitudes suck. Most who get to the west find that it's not quite like in the movies and their white husbands are indeed losers. Low class alcoholics who have been shunned by their families. I don't come across many Flips here in Australia, even though there are thousands of them. Canuck Land seems to be their Eldorado. The ones in Sydney all live in the western suburbs, in working class situations. They are nurses, caregivers, retail clerks or junior office admin types. When they board Cebu Pacific bound for Manila, they check in hundreds of tons of food items, packed in cardboard boxes and paid for by the white man, to give to their relatives. Hahaha.

That's pretty harsh dude.

[Wicked Roger]

I have never seen a race that ages as badly as Flips. By the age of 40, most Flip women are walking blocks of flesh. Rather like brown refrigerators. 4'8" high and 4'8" wide. Hahaha. And their attitudes suck. Most who get to the west find that it's not quite like in the movies and their white husbands are indeed losers. Low class alcoholics who have been shunned by their families. I don't come across many Flips here in Australia, even though there are thousands of them. Canuck Land seems to be their Eldorado. The ones in Sydney all live in the western suburbs, in working class situations. They are nurses, caregivers, retail clerks or junior office admin types. When they board Cebu Pacific bound for Manila, they check in hundreds of tons of food items, packed in cardboard boxes and paid for by the white man, to give to their relatives. Hahaha.

I would agree with PP as there are all shapes and sizes in Aussie. I know some slim ones but also chubbies. Issues is when they arrive they gorge on the food etc but don't exercise. Those that do the latte stay fit and slim IMHO. In Sydney and NSA I know of a few clubs where better looking and sexier Asian go including pinays and some are very tasty. Just depends where you are and what you want. If in the NT or the boon dock very unlikely you see any pinay slim or otherwise but in the main cities there are plenty.

I know slim sexy 50+ pinays also who look after themselves as Like to bang and have fun realizing that not all Aussie men like overweight chubbies LOL.

Example of one slim 50+ attached so we can judge but I do agree ED that many let themselves go once arrive in the western countries. But I am very fussy.

[PilotPaul]

I have never seen a race that ages as badly as Flips. By the age of 40, most Flip women are walking blocks of flesh. Rather like brown refrigerators. 4'8" high and 4'8" wide. Hahaha. And their attitudes suck. Most who get to the west find that it's not quite like in the movies and their white husbands are indeed losers. Low class alcoholics who have been shunned by their families. I don't come across many Flips here in Australia, even though there are thousands of them. Canuck Land seems to be their Eldorado. The ones in Sydney all live in the western suburbs, in working class situations. They are nurses, caregivers, retail clerks or junior office admin types. When they board Cebu Pacific bound for Manila, they check in hundreds of tons of food items, packed in cardboard boxes and paid for by the white man, to give to their relatives. Hahaha.

Geez you are making a few generalisations there. There are indeed many flipina in Australia whom meet those descriptions. There are those that don't. I can speak about my local Filipina fuck-buddy. She's 47 and size 6. Happily married but for whatever reason has looked outside for sex, nothing happens at home (or so I am told).

Another one I know that I ave not yet got into bed is 35 ish and average look but happily married to her filipino husband.

Another one that I know is also 35 ish and moved here as a single career woman. She has a womanly figure, not undernourished and not flabby.

If you look for the stereotypes then that is all you will see. The others are there, just off your current radar settings.

All of that being said, for sure I will continue to regularly bang No 1, No 3 is interstate so I can only see her on biz rips. No 2 I think will not get her into bed.

For the best filipina though we must go to Philippines.

PP.

[Engine Driver]

I have never seen a race that ages as badly as Flips. By the age of 40, most Flip women are walking blocks of flesh. Rather like brown refrigerators. 4'8" high and 4'8" wide. Hahaha. And their attitudes suck. Most who get to the west find that it's not quite like in the movies and their white husbands are indeed losers. Low class alcoholics who have been shunned by their families. I don't come across many Flips here in Australia, even though there are thousands of them. Canuck Land seems to be their Eldorado. The ones in Sydney all live in the western suburbs, in working class situations. They are nurses, caregivers, retail clerks or junior office admin types. When they board Cebu Pacific bound for Manila, they check in hundreds of tons of food items, packed in cardboard boxes and paid for by the white man, to give to their relatives. Hahaha.

[Engine Driver]

I have met several Flips who can be considered nutters. They're basically masters at manipulation and know how to act around someone in order to stay undetected. Flips see people as either potential targets, rivals, or predators. That's it. Just three categories. They don't see long-term connections, intimacy or growth in any of their relationships. They'll stay as long as they're getting what they want or until the bank account has been drained. Nothing is off limits and they nearly always have a justification, excuse, or reason for doing what they do.

With the case of Flips, the added motivation is seeking access to unearned fortune in the west and climbing the social ladder. They have seen how easy it is in "Pretty Woman" and have fantasied about the life of the lead character in "50 Shades of Grey". Every Flip I know thinks the latter movie is real and that's how couples are in the west. Even so called educated LBFMs are mesmerized by that trilogy. They are so childish and easily influenced.

[PilotPaul]

April 2019 I met up with her again, she invited me to the same hotel next door to LA Cafe. I came more prepared with my own condoms (for once) but this same girl was kind of mechanical, and admitted she packed a few pounds since then. I didn't want to say anything but she was not as fun the first time around.

Do your math. While you have been in your home county being faithful she has been trying her best to see 1,2,3 guys per week, per day. That could be (2020-2018)*365*3 = that could be more than 3,000 cocks she has had with or without their own condoms.

Time to get a newbie and tell yourself to believe you are the first foreigner.

[Mr Enternational]

If I'm a once a year visitor and if I happen to be in LA Cafe and I might have not bothered letting her know I was in Manila ahead of time, and she recognizes me in the LAC crowd, will that be a good thing or a very very very bad thing?

What do you mean? She is a hooker and you are a customer. Why are you trying to make someone seeing you out to be anything, good or bad? You can say hello and keep it moving.

[CenTexCrash]

Why'all are probably tired of seeing me on the PH forum.

Had my first Filipina xp in Sept 2018, wrote trip report.

(http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/...nila&p=2295188#post2295188).

Got this LA Cafe 2nd floor girl's WhatsApp info, she sends sweet nothings weekly.

April 2019 I met up with her again, she invited me to the same hotel next door to LA Cafe. I came more prepared with my own condoms (for once) but this same girl was kind of mechanical, and admitted she packed a few pounds since then. I didn't want to say anything but she was not as fun the first time around.

If I'm a once a year visitor and if I happen to be in LA Cafe and I might have not bothered letting her know I was in Manila ahead of time, and she recognizes me in the LAC crowd, will that be a good thing or a very very very bad thing?