Filipinas - Opinions and Advice

[Falcon 95]

This is what happens when you say goodbye to a Filipina.

[Goferring]

I think coming up with that information required her pea sized brain to work at full capacity. But she was a good root, had good customer skills and didn't put me under any stress.

It's amazing how the girls put their intelligence to work in different areas.

I remember being in a Pattaya with a girl working well above her pay grade at a game of Connect 4 yet she could tell you where every vessel in the South Fleet was, their crew compliment and when they were returning for shore leave.

Remembering names is another area that they seem to excel.

Enjoy. G.

[Engine Driver]

My squeeze's cousin is President of a provincial university in Bicol and claims two of her sisters were very close to Jeffrey Epstein, Alan Douchewitz, and Prince Andrew when they (the girls) were in their teens. Is that sort of the same thing?

Sorry I can't compete. The last chick I fucked in the Philippines was a poorly educated prostitute originally from Samar. She was one of six kids in her family. Her aim in life was to earn enough money from opening her legs to own a sari sari store back in her province. Her sister was a not a college dean and her brother was not a UN bureaucrat, but she was clever enough to know that her relatives would buy rice on credit, never having to pay her back and thus would send her broke. I think coming up with that information required her pea sized brain to work at full capacity. But she was a good root, had good customer skills and didn't put me under any stress.

[Soapy Smith]

LOL! I have met dated educated Pinays, too. Just be aware their education system is probably three years behind ours E. G, a college graduate in PI is probably freshman equivalent in USA. Cheers.

Some of our well-informed expats have suggested that there's a lot of variation in the quality of universities in the Philippines, but to some extent there is variability in the quality of programs in the states as well. I believe many schools in the Philippines do not have accreditation for their programs, but there's evidence that some programs in the states, especially for-profit online programs, are similarly unlikely to be nationally accredited. With some of those programs there's a question whether their principal goal is education or profit. For example, I read recently that the graduation rate for the University of Phoenix, a for-profit online university, is 15%. Yet the university apparently continues to thrive.

Three years? Given the considerable variation in quality in both countries, I'm wondering what evidence would support that sort of precise claim. Given your professional background, I'm guessing you might have access to that kind of evidence. Please share what you know.

In preparation for the post that's going to arrive soon that claims this discussion is irrelevant to a forum about fucking Filipinas, let me suggest that it is a useful dialogue about the nature of the pool of Filipinas who are available to fuck.

[D Cups]

RK and GE mix in professional circles and come across well educated, highly westernised Filipinos. A good indicator on whether a girl can adapt to Western life is to see to what level her parents have been educated up to. If both parents speak fluent English and hold at least a bachelors degree, there is a good chance the girl will also be educated and will have a natural intellectual curiosity. That is, her conversation skills won't be limited to just talking about food and K-drama and she will see and appreciate the bigger picture.

The majority of mongers (me included) on this board won't have the opportunity to meet with the professional set, so their perception of people in this country will generally be low. The girls they deal with are usually pea-brained nincompoops who are tied to their families back in the provinces. Generally we don't care as long as they have big tits (D-Cups), their pussies don't smell (Sammon), they don't ask for money (Mr E.) and they are kind and affectionate (DG).

LOL! I have met dated educated Pinays, too. Just be aware their education system is probably three years behind ours E. G, a college graduate in PI is probably freshman equivalent in USA. Cheers.

[Soapy Smith]

Exactly. My chick that is a university dean, I met on Tinder. Her oldest sister has her own OB/GYN practice. Her brother is in law school. Her other sister works at the UN in New York.

My squeeze's cousin is President of a provincial university in Bicol and claims two of her sisters were very close to Jeffrey Epstein, Alan Douchewitz, and Prince Andrew when they (the girls) were in their teens. Is that sort of the same thing?

[Mr Enternational]

What's not mentioned however, or at least not typically mentioned on these pages, is the relative ease of meeting reasonably well-educated, bright, middle class women. My suggestion pertains only to those who are looking for a bit more than casual sex and who might value decent companionship and conversation in addition to sex.

Exactly. My chick that is a university dean, I met on Tinder. Her oldest sister has her own OB/GYN practice. Her brother is in law school. Her other sister works at the UN in New York.

[Dg8787]

You are all correct. I am looking for causal encounters with inexperienced 19-21 year olds. I love to open them up to a sexual awakening. Not that I am a great lover. Just the fact that they haven't been with a few others than a few slam bam quickie Filipino boys makes me a great lover, at the moment.

Most girls are real shy and I love it when they can't control it any longer and start breathing heavily and with soft moans along with bitting their lip.

[GoodEnough]

It occurs to me that you run in the circles of expats who are in relationships with better-educated Filipinas. As I recall, your significant other has been professionally trained. Perhaps university study, especially when it is encouraged by the family, exposes the person to more cosmopolitan values and develops a sense of self-sufficiency that allows him or her to shed some of the yoke of traditional family obligations. I know you've also observed rural Philippine cultures in which subsistence is more hand-to-mouth, and people understand their survival as guided by fate rather than self-sufficiency. In those settings, the obligations of utang na loob persist. I suspect most of the short-visit warriors in this forum are exposed primarily to women from poorer backgrounds who are bound by more traditional values about family obligations.

Yes, you're correct, and your conclusions are accurate. What's not mentioned however, or at least not typically mentioned on these pages, is the relative ease of meeting reasonably well-educated, bright, middle class women. I have been asked, as has, I'm sure RK, by many women in the latter class, whether I know of any "nice" Westerners to whom I might be able to introduce them. Leaving the subsistence-fed bargirl culture and aiming higher is not difficult for those who may choose to do so.

I have no problem with "point and click" encounters, and have enjoyed more than my fair share of them over the decades. My suggestion pertains only to those who are looking for a bit more than casual sex and who might value decent companionship and conversation in addition to sex.

GE.

[Engine Driver]

It occurs to me that you run in the circles of expats who are in relationships with better-educated Filipinas. As I recall, your significant other has been professionally trained. Perhaps university study, especially when it is encouraged by the family, exposes the person to more cosmopolitan values and develops a sense of self-sufficiency that allows him or her to shed some of the yoke of traditional family obligations. I know you've also observed rural Philippine cultures in which subsistence is more hand-to-mouth, and people understand their survival as guided by fate rather than self-sufficiency. In those settings, the obligations of utang na loob persist. I suspect most of the short-visit warriors in this forum are exposed primarily to women from poorer backgrounds who are bound by more traditional values about family obligations.

RK and GE mix in professional circles and come across well educated, highly westernised Filipinos. A good indicator on whether a girl can adapt to Western life is to see to what level her parents have been educated up to. If both parents speak fluent English and hold at least a bachelors degree, there is a good chance the girl will also be educated and will have a natural intellectual curiosity. That is, her conversation skills won't be limited to just talking about food and K-drama and she will see and appreciate the bigger picture.

The majority of mongers (me included) on this board won't have the opportunity to meet with the professional set, so their perception of people in this country will generally be low. The girls they deal with are usually pea-brained nincompoops who are tied to their families back in the provinces. Generally we don't care as long as they have big tits (D-Cups), their pussies don't smell (Sammon), they don't ask for money (Mr E.) and they are kind and affectionate (DG).

[Sidtip]

Tangent: Women spend their money on the things they want, then come ask you for money for the things they need.

Truest thing I have ever read about Asian girls.

[Soapy Smith]

I would advise you not to make the automatic assumption that she would expect you to provide support for her entire family. It surely hasn't been true in my case, nor has that been true in the case of many of my expat friends here. GE.

It occurs to me that you run in the circles of expats who are in relationships with better-educated Filipinas. As I recall, your significant other has been professionally trained. Perhaps university study, especially when it is encouraged by the family, exposes the person to more cosmopolitan values and develops a sense of self-sufficiency that allows him or her to shed some of the yoke of traditional family obligations. I know you've also observed rural Philippine cultures in which subsistence is more hand-to-mouth, and people understand their survival as guided by fate rather than self-sufficiency. In those settings, the obligations of utang na loob persist. I suspect most of the short-visit warriors in this forum are exposed primarily to women from poorer backgrounds who are bound by more traditional values about family obligations.

[Soapy Smith]

Nurse that I mess with in Colombia had surgery on her hand the other day. She said she went to the pharmacy and only had enough money for one of the medicines and asked me if I could send her money. Uhh no. If I was planning some type of surgery I would have made sure to have enough money for the surgery AND the medicine first. That is like going to buy a new car then realizing you don't have money to put gas in the mf. Some shit you have to hold off on until you are financially ready.

Not all surgeries are elective. Carpal tunnel syndrome, for example, can be very painful and absolutely debilitating for people in many kinds of work. There are options to buying a car, like taking public transportation or ride-sharing. I don't think this analogy holds up very well.

In addition, your argument here seems almost opposite what you argue about the LPN in your previous post. In that example you wanted her to take the exam to get on with her life. In this story, depending on the severity of the circumstances that led her to the surgery, isn't it likely she was doing what she needed to do to get on with her life? Increasingly we hear stories in the states of people dying because they went without necessary medications in order to put food on the table. Stories like that would never make the news in Colombia or the Philippines because they're so commonplace. Makes for an interesting comparison to the practices of "world class" medicine in the United States.

[GoodEnough]

Maybe sending money home was actually justifying a fear of taking the exam. Many people fail to complete licensing exams or degree programs because they fear failing the exam and the humiliation they will experience if they fail. Others fail to finish because they fear the responsibilities they will acquire when they assume the mantle of the new profession. Fears of various kinds cause people to do things that look entirely illogical to onlookers.

Maybe she was frustrated with you for disrupting her illogical rationalization--and digging at her underlying fear.

An excellent point. Remember too that professional exams here are often used as a means of limiting access to a profession, so it's not at all unusual to see more failing than passing. I was speaking with a good Filipino friend, who is a practicing surgeon, about this very subject a couple of days ago.

GE.

[Soapy Smith]

She had finished nursing school (LPN) but had not taken the test for the state certification. She kept sending money to her family. I did not understand this and kept biatching to her about it. She did not have money for the test, yet keeps sending money to her family. I was like you have to get your own shit together before you can help other people. Skip sending money for once and go pay for the damn test.

I think she was as frustrated about me talking about it as I was about her doing it.

Maybe sending money home was actually justifying a fear of taking the exam. Many people fail to complete licensing exams or degree programs because they fear failing the exam and the humiliation they will experience if they fail. Others fail to finish because they fear the responsibilities they will acquire when they assume the mantle of the new profession. Fears of various kinds cause people to do things that look entirely illogical to onlookers.

Maybe she was frustrated with you for disrupting her illogical rationalization--and digging at her underlying fear.