Living in the Philippines

[Red Kilt]

Does anyone know this law?

Republic Act No. 7610.

Section 10.

Be) Any person who shall keep or have in his company a minor, twelve (12) years or under or who in ten (10) years or more his junior in any public or private place, hotel, motel, beer joint, discotheque, cabaret, pension house, sauna or massage parlor, beach and / or other tourist resort or similar places shall suffer the penalty of prision mayor in its maximum period and a fine of not less than Fifty thousand pesos (P50, 000) : Provided, That this provision shall not apply to any person who is related within the fourth degree of consanguinity or affinity or any bond recognized by law, local custom and tradition or acts in the performance of a social, moral or legal duty.

Do they apply this rule?". Who in ten (10) years or more his junior."

You didn't read the key word of "minor". "Any person who shall keep or have in his company a minor, twelve (12) years or under or who is ten (10) years or more his junior.

It means anyone under 18 who is 10 years younger than you.

For example, if she is 25 and you are 45 or more, there is nothing to worry about.

[Ivanvlad]

Does anyone know this law?

Republic Act No. 7610.

Do they apply this rule?". Who in ten (10) years or more his junior."

For example: If I'm 36 I can stay with a 23 yo girl?

[Ivanvlad]

Does anyone know this law?

Republic Act No. 7610.

Section 10.

Be) Any person who shall keep or have in his company a minor, twelve (12) years or under or who in ten (10) years or more his junior in any public or private place, hotel, motel, beer joint, discotheque, cabaret, pension house, sauna or massage parlor, beach and / or other tourist resort or similar places shall suffer the penalty of prision mayor in its maximum period and a fine of not less than Fifty thousand pesos (P50, 000) : Provided, That this provision shall not apply to any person who is related within the fourth degree of consanguinity or affinity or any bond recognized by law, local custom and tradition or acts in the performance of a social, moral or legal duty.

Do they apply this rule?". Who in ten (10) years or more his junior."

[Chocha Monger]

Strolling through MOA, I was accosted by the usual touts handing out real estate fliers for luxury condos. Usually, I do my best to dodge them. Sometimes they're really persistent though when they see a foreign target. In those cases it's sometimes best to just take the brochure and then dump it in the most convenient trash can.

However, this time I just took a glance before throwing it away and noticed that it was yet another Ayala Land development. This is the same developer for Two Serendra condominium and Glorietta Mall, both of which suffered what authorities claim to be gas explosions resulting in fatalities. The Department of Public Works and Highways (DPWH) said that Two Serendra doesn't need to be demolished. So, it will be patched up pinoy style and mongers can move back in praying that they're not blown to smithereens while enjoying blissful post-nut sleep.

It's doubtful that the company will compensate condo owners for the lost value of their units as the property is now about attractive to prospective buyers as a bar girl with a raging herpes outbreak is to sober mongers. It's yet another reason why one should not try to own property in the Philippines. With all the complaints about Filipinos failing to honor warranties for minor purchases like consumer electronics, it's a wonder that so many foreigners put their money into high priced luxury condos. Perhaps, the monger offering to rent his Filipina girlfriend out with the property to foreign mongers owns a condo unit in Two Serendra. That would explain why he needs to sweeten the deal as most renters have likely fled the building permanently.

This definitely a case where it's best to be a renter with nothing more than what you can pack in your suitcase.

[D Cups]

Reasons why a person wants to obtain Philippine citizenship. If the person has little or no reason to travel overseas certainly land and / or business ownership in one's own name are good reasons.

Thanks, Hiutsori. Good to know.

[FreebieFan]

applicant's likelihood to return to the PI; age, gender, marital status, having a decent job, stable employment history, money in the bank, and land ownership are amongst the many factors considered when the application is reviewed. Weighed very favourably is the applicant who demonstrated that he / she returned home from a 1st world country prior to the visa's expiration. Why? Too many refused to go home and disappeared into the underground economy.

In true Filipino fashion they even made an abbreviation for those who don't go home. They are called TNT's."tago ng tago. Equates to." in hiding ".

[Hutsori]

I know you said you want Philippine citizenship "for various reasons", but I simply cannot imagine them.

A Philippine passport is rigidly scrutinized everywhere in the world, as the number of forgeries is very high.

My friend in Australian Immigration said that when they see a Philippines passport that might be a bit dodgy they immediately take it to a "better" machine for reading because it can pick up the false ones.

About the ONLY advantage I can think of is that you get smoother access to the other SEAMEO countries (sometimes with no need to get a visa, such as Mongolia).

I would be interested to hear the other reasons.

True the number of forgeries is high, but the main reason Filipinos have such a hard time obtaining visas is due to the high rate of their fellow countrymen who overstay their tourist / business / education visa when abroad, becoming an illegal immigrant. Those OFWs who abscond from their visa sponsor also harm their homeland's cause. Each country has its own criterion (for the States I recall it's approx 10%) , so to counter this they require a PI national obtain a visa prior to arrival. Basically the visa-issuing officials are scrutinizing the applicant's likelihood to return to the PI; age, gender, marital status, having a decent job, stable employment history, money in the bank, and land ownership are amongst the many factors considered when the application is reviewed. Weighed very favourably is the applicant who demonstrated that he / she returned home from a 1st world country prior to the visa's expiration. An example, though it's a prosperous country, an OECD member, its people are amongst the world's highest spenders when traveling, etc, Koreans only recently have obtained visa on arrival in the US. Why? Too many refused to go home and disappeared into the underground economy.

Reasons why a person wants to obtain Philippine citizenship. If the person has little or no reason to travel overseas certainly land and / or business ownership in one's own name are good reasons.

[FreebieFan]

I know you said you want Philippine citizenship "for various reasons", but I simply cannot imagine them.

A Philippine passport is rigidly scrutinized everywhere in the world, as the number of forgeries is very high.

My friend in Australian Immigration said that when they see a Philippines passport that might be a bit dodgy they immediately take it to a "better" machine for reading because it can pick up the false ones.

About the ONLY advantage I can think of is that you get smoother access to the other SEAMEO countries (sometimes with no need to get a visa, such as Mongolia).

I would be interested to hear the other reasons.

Further, as those with a Pinay wife will testify, the pasport is useless in terms of accessability to travel. Theres a visa (and a lengthy visa process and huge fees) required for all travel to other than ASEAN countries with a Philippines passport. I aslo can't see the point unless the pasport that you currently carry is even worse. And there are not many that are worse.

[Red Kilt]

. not looking to work but would love to have Philippine citizenship for various reasons.

I know you said you want Philippine citizenship "for various reasons", but I simply cannot imagine them.

A Philippine passport is rigidly scrutinized everywhere in the world, as the number of forgeries is very high.

My friend in Australian Immigration said that when they see a Philippines passport that might be a bit dodgy they immediately take it to a "better" machine for reading because it can pick up the false ones.

About the ONLY advantage I can think of is that you get smoother access to the other SEAMEO countries (sometimes with no need to get a visa, such as Mongolia).

I would be interested to hear the other reasons.

[Paul C]

Does anyone here have any experience with applying for Philippine citizenship?

The law says you must have resided in the Philippines for a continuous period of ten years (see source below). I've been living here for close to five years now (short trips abroad don't "reset the counter," right? Seeing as how the max stay for tourists is 16 months) , so in another five years I should be able to qualify. Not looking to work but would love to have Philippine citizenship for various reasons.

Source (www.lawphil.net)

[Going Low]

Hi guys,

Just looking for some new friends, anyone living here on the south side of Metro (Paranaque, Las Pinas, Alabang, Muntinlupa etc.)

If interested it would be nice to go out sometimes, I'm 33 years old and living in the Phils now for 4 years.

Feel free to msg me.

[Stroker Ace88]

Sometime last year, I read a study about the water situation in Cebu. It indicated that the city is running out of water. Given it's unregulated development, and the usual failure to invest, the water tables are falling precipitously, and aren't being replenished quickly enough. The crisis is predicted, as I recall, to occur in 3-5 years. As usual, officials there have known about this for years and have done nothing. If the study (and my memory) is accurate, the water situation in Cebu will change for the worse over the immediate future.

My major point here is that this country receives less DFI than any other country in ASEAN, aside from Brunei which hardly needs it. Aside from pervasive corruption and the lack of a functional legal system, the reason cited by potential investors is the lack of adequate physical infrastructure, including roads, water and electricity. I believe the electricity charges are now the highest in Asia, having passed Japan about a year ago.

GE

Cebu has a water suppy that's generally in decline. You are correct, with rapid growth and supply in decline it's a lose-lose situation. Five years ago Cebu endured a mult-year drought and water rotation was the norm. The past few years have brought about average to above-average rainfall and that has made local officials 'forget' about the fresh water supply. Yikes!

From talking with expats who have lived in Cebu for decades they speak of a time when the service water tap was turned off for months at a time. Living through that experience has made them instal large water collection methods. A good tip for anyone building a house IMO is to prepare for the inevitable ostrich like ineptitude that pervades the political planning for anything longer than the current election cycle and plan to be self sufficient.

[GoodEnough]

I agree about the brown outs. With the upgrade of the kepco salcon coal power plant in naga, electricity in cebu seems to have been stabilized. There are talks of adding a new much larger coal fired plant and another plant that will incinerate garbage to produce electricity.

As for water, Frenzy you live in a centralized location and the water runs down hill from the buhisan dam so you have good water pressure. There are alot of places in cebu that experience rotating water distibution and it seems to happen more often in the drier summer months. Alot of smaller subdivisons take over water distribution from MCWD and apply a small surcharge to the water price to maintain the barangay-subdivision water tower. Talamban, bacayan, talisay, consolacion ect have alot of smaller subdivisions that do this. Most cebu city condo towers and high-end gated subdivisions do this as well, but the water is usually always turned on and available for the rich.

Sometime last year, I read a study about the water situation in Cebu. It indicated that the city is running out of water. Given it's unregulated development, and the usual failure to invest, the water tables are falling precipitously, and aren't being replenished quickly enough. The crisis is predicted, as I recall, to occur in 3-5 years. As usual, officials there have known about this for years and have done nothing. If the study (and my memory) is accurate, the water situation in Cebu will change for the worse over the immediate future.

My major point here is that this country receives less DFI than any other country in ASEAN, aside from Brunei which hardly needs it. Aside from pervasive corruption and the lack of a functional legal system, the reason cited by potential investors is the lack of adequate physical infrastructure, including roads, water and electricity. I believe the electricity charges are now the highest in Asia, having passed Japan about a year ago.

GE

[Frenzy3]

So the answer to a country's total failure to invest in adequate power generation required to increase investment is to "buy a generator?" I wonder if that's the government's response to potential private investors. As to the water tanks, I've got two of them, which really doesn't help me when I'm at the office, and I doubt it's the answer for most large businesses here.

Try visiting India for fucked up power and water supplies, ace hardware do I nice petrol gen for 25k, starter motor etc

[Stroker Ace88]

Buy a generator or stay in Cebu, I think over the 5 years it has gotten better to the point I forget when we had a brown out, and water tanks here stop the water from running out.

I agree about the brown outs. With the upgrade of the kepco salcon coal power plant in naga, electricity in cebu seems to have been stabilized. There are talks of adding a new much larger coal fired plant and another plant that will incinerate garbage to produce electricity.

As for water, Frenzy you live in a centralized location and the water runs down hill from the buhisan dam so you have good water pressure. There are alot of places in cebu that experience rotating water distibution and it seems to happen more often in the drier summer months. Alot of smaller subdivisons take over water distribution from MCWD and apply a small surcharge to the water price to maintain the barangay-subdivision water tower. Talamban, bacayan, talisay, consolacion ect have alot of smaller subdivisions that do this. Most cebu city condo towers and high-end gated subdivisions do this as well, but the water is usually always turned on and available for the rich.