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[SeekingHead]

You can pay $200-$400 a night for a hot GFE, or you can get the same for $100 or less. It appears you can also pay $200-$400 a month and get the full SB package. My suggestion is to go, see what is already on the market, at what price level and then readjust your expectations.

TY.

I will be down once the virus passes, what I want to reiterate is I would rather pay for quality over quantity. If I can pay another $50 US & get a model vs. A normal 20 something girl, then I'm willing to do it. It's not going to kill my bank account or make a difference on where & what I eat, I've seen where mongers are always trying to get the cheapest price & are willing to put a bag over the head of a girl who has a nice body. I'm not like that, I like a bit of a connection to a girl & for me with a bit of connection and that I'm attracted to make the sex much better at least for me.

As for the SB, what I have now is a SB who fucks me like a GF 2 x a week, this leaves me another 3 days a week to monger & try out fresh talent. As for the SB, finding a girl who I can take out for dinner & drinks is high on my list, A good night or me is to take a girl out for dinner, split a bottle of good wine, go for copas, maybe dance a bit, & then back to the house for a couple of rounds, bang her in the morning, then kick her out. Then the other days of the week I can partake in other monger activities, like getting a 90 minute massage plus BBBJ, or going to a casa or picking up a girl at cafe or club. I prefer American Strip clubs where you can get extras in the club quite a bit as it's a bit of fantasy fuck type thing.

I'm conversationally fluent in Spanish so the language isn't an issue for me. If I couldn't speak the language I would just go to Sao Paulo which is full of supermodel types.

[JjBee62]

Elvis,

TY for the great advice. I'm looking to spend as little as possible, but do want to bang a higher quality chica with a GFE, so it looks like Colombia will work. I'm active over in the USA version of this guide in Atlanta & see people chasing $60 qv girls, who I wouldn't touch if they were paying me $200. This is the reason I mentioned spending $200 to $400 if I can bang a model on vacation then I will pay for it, but am good with $60 if she is a cute girl next door type who is a GFE. My current SB is a solid 7 in looks, 25 year old grad student & I pay her rent, see her 8 to 10 times a month, & it's a complete GFE.

No hay problema con la idoma, para esta Columbia es mas interesante de Brazil con la Portuguese.

Also there is a direct flight from Atlanta to Cartagena, or there was before the virus & it's only about a 4 hour flight. I will take your advice on Medallion & Bogata, I'm looking at it from the point of view of just chilling on the beach for a week while working remote.

I'm not married & doubt I want to get married again. Just too much drama & love hurts, my wife passed from cancer 4 years ago, I was married for 22 years. Trust me had plenty of offers, I have Colombian friends here in Atlanta, & they all keep trying to set me up with a divorced mid 30's women with 2 kids..

I'm not particularly interested, as I've said before, in a SD-SB relationship, especially not an international one. I'm too cynical to expect some hot young woman with a high sex drive is going to keep her legs crossed for months at a time waiting for me. However, that doesn't matter. If she's not fucking me, not supposed to be attending to me and not keeping me awake by fucking my friend in the next room while I'm trying to sleep (it happened), I don't care what she's doing.

Then again, I have no issue with sending a girl money, and I'm willing to try new things in the pursuit of knowledge.

Not long ago I began talking with a Colombian girl through a non-traditional (not a dating site, SA, Tinder, Facebook etc.) source. I'd put her face in the 7. 5-8 range, body 8-8. 5 and personality 9. She's non-pro from a middle-class family, well educated and was employed until the lockdown went into effect. No kids, no overload of trashy tattoos and a stable living arrangement. If I was ever looking for a relationship, so far she would have checked all the boxes. Haven't asked her age yet. She has a cedula and looks under 20.

I haven't dug too deep, haven't suggested taking her on trips, or shopping trips, and haven't finished detailing my expectations when or if I come to visit. I've only questioned her to see what level of income would make her squeal. At current exchange rates, about $300 monthly is a number that made her jaw drop.

If you haven't been to Colombia, it requires an attitude adjustment. In the US, a really stunning girl is something you probably see almost every day, sometimes a few in a day. I'm talking about a girl that you won't let go without a good second look. In Colombia, if there are plenty of people around, you'll see a head-turner about once a minute. They're hard to find in the US because they're in short supply, which means they're also expensive. In Colombia they're everywhere.

The other adjustment is the cost index. I know a young woman in Medellin, from an estrato 6 family. Her husband is also from an estrato 6 family. She looks like a 23 year old Natalie Portman and graduated from University as a dentist. She also speaks almost fluent English. If you run a Dentist practice in the US and a bilingual and gorgeous new dentist applied for a job, you would probably throw money at her. In Colombia, the best paying job she could find came out to $540 per month.

In case you're not aware, Colombia's wealth classes, estratos, run from 1 to 6.

You can pay $200-$400 a night for a hot GFE, or you can get the same for $100 or less. It appears you can also pay $200-$400 a month and get the full SB package. My suggestion is to go, see what is already on the market, at what price level and then readjust your expectations.

[SeekingHead]

SH, no offense, but you are doing it wrong. I know it is normal to price in most other places, but do not do it in Colombia, you will get plenty of action without having to front women cash. About 3 in 4 women in Colombia are looking for what you are offering but many if not most of the women I have met on SA have not been out with a guy, and they do not know how things work, so use it to your advantage. Many if not most do not want or will not set a price.

Elvis,

TY for the great advice. I'm looking to spend as little as possible, but do want to bang a higher quality chica with a GFE, so it looks like Colombia will work. I'm active over in the USA version of this guide in Atlanta & see people chasing $60 qv girls, who I wouldn't touch if they were paying me $200. This is the reason I mentioned spending $200 to $400 if I can bang a model on vacation then I will pay for it, but am good with $60 if she is a cute girl next door type who is a GFE. My current SB is a solid 7 in looks, 25 year old grad student & I pay her rent, see her 8 to 10 times a month, & it's a complete GFE.

No hay problema con la idoma, para esta Columbia es mas interesante de Brazil con la Portuguese.

Also there is a direct flight from Atlanta to Cartagena, or there was before the virus & it's only about a 4 hour flight. I will take your advice on Medallion & Bogata, I'm looking at it from the point of view of just chilling on the beach for a week while working remote.

I'm not married & doubt I want to get married again. Just too much drama & love hurts, my wife passed from cancer 4 years ago, I was married for 22 years. Trust me had plenty of offers, I have Colombian friends here in Atlanta, & they all keep trying to set me up with a divorced mid 30's women with 2 kids.

I will use your strategy on lures of travel & vacation. It's similar to the strategy I use on SA here in the states, I look for the 23 to 27 year old woman who likes older guys. It works really good I'm now on my 4th sugar relationship with a women in that age group, all were into dating older guys, trips, & vacations. I was going to bring my current SB to Madrid / Barca for 7 days & when she leaves, I had a Russian girl flying in for 5 days. Here in the US it's a bit harder as only 1 out of 10 girls fits this category, whereas you are saying I can find this easily in Colombia What I might do is head to Bogata or Medallion & find a girl, then just have her visit me in at a beach resort when I come down.

I will go back over some of your posts as you seem to have this down to a science.

[Elvis 2008]

By this I mean upscale dinner / drinks after dinner a drink at a night club or bar for an hour after dinner then back to the hotel for 2 to 3 rounds.

Cartagena is attractive to me because I work remote & could fly down from Atlanta on a direct flight for a week at the beach, work remote, nap / beach, & then take a girl out. For dinner.

If you could share advice & pricing structure. I am to spending $200 to $400 a night US if I can get a supermodel or 9/10 girl, if not a cute college aged amateur for $60 US is good too.

SH, no offense, but you are doing it wrong. I know it is normal to price in most other places, but do not do it in Colombia, you will get plenty of action without having to front women cash. About 3 in 4 women in Colombia are looking for what you are offering but many if not most of the women I have met on SA have not been out with a guy, and they do not know how things work, so use it to your advantage. Many if not most do not want or will not set a price.

You will be asked about what you are looking for in an arrangement. If they seem home bound, like with kids, tell them that you are having to travel to the area frequently for work and are looking for a GFE type. Most are not home bound and are looking to travel, so tell those types when they ask about an arrangement that you are looking for a travel partner. Try not to mention money when asked what kind of an arrangement you want.

Keep your first meet quick, a drink over a meal. Make sure that she is the woman in the photo and has a decent personality. Use google translate if Spanish is difficult. It works well in a quiet place as long as there is decent internet.

If the woman has a price mentality and you aren't going to meet her otherwise, offer up 50,000 COP which is now like $12 to meet them. It is nothing for you, but for these women, that is often a day's pay. I have never been turned down with that offer. You would think the photos will tell you all that you need to know, but they can be deceiving.

Your goal should not be bedding a 8 or 10 for $200 to 400 a night. Your goal, and it is realistic in Colombia, is to pay them nothing directly. After sex, take them out to a nice dinner and lure the women with trips to exotic countries. You do not have to use the john mentality in Colombia to work SA. In fact, you will get the best pussy and best effort without it.

Oh, and you are not married even if you are in Colombia when on SA. Given that many of the women know that doing the same job they are currently doing yields them between 3 and 10 X that amount in the USA, many are looking to get married or come to the USA. Keep that option open for your sake. Who knows? After being with a Colombian woman, you may want a divorce anyway.

Cartagena is not the place you want to be on SA as well. There are too few choices. You want to do Medellin or Bogota, find the best women and fly the women from there to Cartagena. (If you like darker skinned woman, I would look at Cali.) Flights from these cities to Cartagena are like $50 round trip. The reason for that is that there are not that many woman on SA in Cartagena, and you have 10 X as many in either city over Cartagena. The better beaches, and it is a cheap flight too, is to San Andreas, but that is not a non-stop for you.

Colombia is SA wonderland. One of my SA gals just called me and showed me her showering, another just sent me one of her dancing and masturbating. That is just tonight. I NEVER had anything like that in the USA or elsewhere. That is normal in Colombia, the women love to please their man.

And for what it is worth, your hit rate is going to be MUCH higher in Colombia than in the USA or elsewhere, and it is best if you can stay away from the English speaking women in general or the women who have had American SDs before. The first Colombian girl I met from SA told me that she was making $300 a month as a bank teller. So when you say you are offering up $200 to $400, I know that is not much for you, but it is like offering an American girl $2000 to $3000 per night, and you do not have to do that. In fact, the women are going to think that you are a sucker if you do offer that.

[SeekingHead]

Check out this thread post 5423 by Elvis.

http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?578-General-Info&p=2420852#post2420852

He has a lot more experience with the SA thing than I do. SA in Medellin is worked a little differently in the states. In my opinion 200 to 400 a night is way too much and you can definitely find the quality you are seeking for a lot less. For now I would just put things on hold because I really don't know when any of us will be going back to Colombia again. I have a list of SA girls waiting for me, probably too many. You'll find that you will have to narrow things down as there will be a long line of takers.

Thank you, some really good info & reading. It seems to function about the same way SA does in other parts of the world. I was going to meet a Russian girl & a Romanian girl in Malaga Spain this summer but Corona got me. The abundance of pussy on SA I can bang has led to me being a little choosy about quality. In the last 3 years I've had some type of sexual experience with around 100 different women from a 4 to a solid 9. 5. The better girls tend to be open to a FWB / GFE which is what I want instead of a 1 hour meetup at a random hotel. The current girl I've going out with now is a solid 7 but is a complete GFE & I think for her she is just into older man & SA allows her to find someone.

Are girls more open to USD or Peso? By this does paying in $'s get you a discount or are you better with Peso's? From doing a bit of reading it looks like $100 will get me the todo la noche I am looking for.

I'm hoping by the fall things get back to normal. I need a vacation.

[Septimius]

I'm not going to ask for #'s but just wanted to talk prices & advice. I'm pretty active over on the USA forums, but created an account over here also. I was planning on taking a 1 week trip to Cartagena this summer but the virus has that all fucked up right now. I prefer SA girls as you can usually screen a bit thru text & then a couple of phone calls via whatsapp. Also I've found with most girls on SA if you treat them like you would a girlfriend, wining & dining them you usually get a good GFE. By this I mean upscale dinner / drinks after dinner a drink at a night club or bar for an hour after dinner then back to the hotel for 2 to 3 rounds.

Cartagena is attractive to me because I work remote & could fly down from Atlanta on a direct flight for a week at the beach, work remote, nap / beach, & then take a girl out. For dinner.

If you could share advice & pricing structure. I am to spending $200 to $400 a night US if I can get a supermodel or 9/10 girl, if not a cute college aged amateur for $60 US is good too.

One more thing I'm conversationally fluent in Spanish so language isn't a barrier, just local slang.

Cheers.

Check out this thread post 5423 by Elvis.

http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?578-General-Info&p=2420852#post2420852

He has a lot more experience with the SA thing than I do. SA in Medellin is worked a little differently in the states. In my opinion 200 to 400 a night is way too much and you can definitely find the quality you are seeking for a lot less. For now I would just put things on hold because I really don't know when any of us will be going back to Colombia again. I have a list of SA girls waiting for me, probably too many. You'll find that you will have to narrow things down as there will be a long line of takers.

[SeekingHead]

20 year old from the SA site. Super wet and non experienced. No PM's LOL.

I'm not going to ask for #'s but just wanted to talk prices & advice. I'm pretty active over on the USA forums, but created an account over here also. I was planning on taking a 1 week trip to Cartagena this summer but the virus has that all fucked up right now. I prefer SA girls as you can usually screen a bit thru text & then a couple of phone calls via whatsapp. Also I've found with most girls on SA if you treat them like you would a girlfriend, wining & dining them you usually get a good GFE. By this I mean upscale dinner / drinks after dinner a drink at a night club or bar for an hour after dinner then back to the hotel for 2 to 3 rounds.

Cartagena is attractive to me because I work remote & could fly down from Atlanta on a direct flight for a week at the beach, work remote, nap / beach, & then take a girl out. For dinner.

If you could share advice & pricing structure. I am to spending $200 to $400 a night US if I can get a supermodel or 9/10 girl, if not a cute college aged amateur for $60 US is good too.

One more thing I'm conversationally fluent in Spanish so language isn't a barrier, just local slang.

Cheers.

[WeKilledKenny]

Hit me up for number. Hot piece. Used to be at new life. Has a fetish for older white guys.

I will second the recommendation of HotDog01. Personally, I call her "V". She is very fluent in English, superior conversationalist, fun dance instructor, and one of a kind GFE provider. During my second trip to Medellin, I solely went to New Life just for her until she told me their cut. My travel companion jokingly said she is the perfect P4P girl to show your mother as long as you cover the "tattoo". Brothers, as long as the money and gifts are good, this one won't disappoint and will blow you away to kingdom come.

[Septimius]

20 year old from the SA site. Super wet and non experienced. No PM's LOL.

[HotDog01]

Hit me up for number. Hot piece. Used to be at new life. Has a fetish for older white guys.

[Septimius]

Hell no I won't post her Instagram pics you would probably ruin it for me LOL. But this chick was super sexy as fuck and only 22 years old. We met up after school because her University is nearby the hotel. Here is a pic of her ass bending over.

[D Cups]

Hey Guys. I thought I would post some recent pics of my girl from Cartagena for the viewing pleasure of the board - 22 yr old with set of 34d tits.

Que bueno Fish Man. Thanks.

[HotelAl]

Nice report. Which of the three places did you enjoy most?

I recently returned from my cherry trip to Colombia. I split my time equally between Medellin, Cartegena and Bogota and thoroughly enjoyed my time in each place.

I was impressed with the diversity of chicas available varying from auburn haired teenage cheerleader types to classical latinas to black girls. I sourced all online, largely using Seeking Arrangement although I also dipped into photoprepargos and mileroticas and La Celestine and Solitas escort agencies whilst in Bogota. Results were largely positive and I had no outright duds although a couple were quite obviously a bit older than their stated ages.

I loved how overtly sexual most of the girls were and how they seemed to respond particularly to oral stimulation and the little toys that I took with me. They nearly wore out my little love honey bullet vibrator and most appeared to get off using it, often multiple times.

Language was a bit of an issue but not insurmountably so. I speak little Spanish so was largely reliant on translation apps and the often hilarious mistranslations that resulted frequently served to break the ice. But I definitely would learn a bit of Spanish prior to any future trips.

Here are a few snaps from my trip.

[The Tall Man]

Great memories from the Colombian leg of my world mongering tour. Nothing as cock stiffening as a Colombian chica.

The 90 minute video of my adventures is out now.

Love the video GIF's you posted. Yep I was in that position with a 3 paisa chicas last night picked up around centro. Got to love Colombia!

The Tall Man.

[Cunning Stunt]

Great memories from the Colombian leg of my world mongering tour. Nothing as cock stiffening as a Colombian chica.

The 90 minute video of my adventures is out now.