Graz

[Ducked]

Saw Anastasia last Saturday, which was a big mistake. She is a cute woman and have a good service list on her page. I confirm these services when I saw her and a few other things. She charge a bit more than the other girls and thinking that she will deliver with enthusiasm. So I went ahead thinking that this will be promising session, but once the money change hands her attitude also changed. To "let get this one out of the door ASAP". Even before the money changed hand, I sensed that something was not quite right. It seems the smaller head took over and made the decision. No point of describing the session, because it is better to have a session with a fuck doll.

Attached is a pic so that fellow enthusiast will know.

[ManWithBeard]

I visited Paradise on Sat 06 December. It was surprisingly quiet but I enjoyed the experience. It was a lot darker than I expected from photos on website. Consequently very difficult to check out girls especially when they were seated on the couches in the lounge. The four I spoke to were friendly. All spoke English to some extent but not fluently. A good opportunity for me to practice e my limited German. Most of the girls I saw between 7 and 11 pm were 5-6 /10 but I am picky. A couple were 7/10 and I would return to try them. I sessioned with Clarissa (slim, naked, navel piercing, long dark brown hair) who said she was from Hungary. She was equally affectionate both downstairs and upstairs. But I would not repeat with her. Nice food in restaurant and good spa facilities but mirrors in bedrooms poorly positioned and insufficient. On way in receptionist explained terms of services. On way out I was asked if I had enjoyed my visit. I would visit again next time in Graz. Extras not mentioned on website are plastic tokens for two small beers or glasses of wine. I was also offered a wristband if I wanted to leave and return later. This place is not easily accessible by public transport. Taxis there and back to my hotel cost approx 20 euro each way. Ouch! Maybe not worth going out of your way to visit if resident in Germany or elsewhere in Austria. But if staying in Zagreb.

Maribor or Ljubljana and have car, why waste time, money and effort on locals? 7.

So. Checked out Paradise in Graz.

Facilities are top notch as previously reported. IMO the facilities were much newer and better than OASE in Germany (which I also visited on this trip for the first time.) I went on a Friday night and on a Saturday night. Many of the girls working at the club sleep nearby in a facility that the owners run. (saw only one pimp pick up her girl at closing time).

Girls were a lot less attractive than the cream of the crop I usually go for at clubs like Sharks (my favorite FKK). However you can get a TON of couch time with the Paradise girls (and I tend to get my fare share at other clubs since I get along well with the ladies inside and out.) The place is REALLY chill, IMO more chill than Living Room in Germany which is about as chill as I have found in an FKK when it comes to not getting any pressure and getting lots of couch time. Rooms have all the amenities (like speakers, temp control) and are about as nice as I have seen however there are no good "MIRROR rooms" that for instance Sharks has under the fishbowl.

While I was there I spent 3 of my nights in Graz hanging out with a duo that is highly experienced in the mongering scene in Germany and Austria. One guy was 1/2 German / Austrian and the other guy was Austrian. The AUSTRIAN fellow supposedly even owned or managed one of the sex clubs in Graz in the past and he seemed to know everyone we met when we checked out other mongering sites. Anyway this duo supposedly had spent about 10 of the last 14 days / evening at Paradise. So, if you are ever in Graz I imagine that's the place to be...

[Gergiev]

Just checked I went here (and passed on the options).

http://www.oasex.at/de/content.php?c...rls&module=all

NTW, thanks for the reply.

I did visit there a few years ago, but like yourself passed on playing...

[NoTaWorry]

Thanks for the fine report, NTW.

If you can recall, would be interesting to know which of the Laufhauser you were in?

Just checked I went here (and passed on the options).

http://www.oasex.at/de/content.php?c...rls&module=all

[Gergiev]

Paradise is closed on Sundays so for my last night in Graz, we checked out the "best" Lufthause by my new friends recommendations. I passed on sessioning after interviewing 2 of the hotter women and didn't get the right vibe / answers to my parley.

Thanks for the fine report, NTW.

If you can recall, would be interesting to know which of the Laufhauser you were in?

[NoTaWorry]

So. Checked out Paradise in Graz.

Facilities are top notch as previously reported. IMO the facilities were much newer and better than OASE in Germany (which I also visited on this trip for the first time.) I went on a Friday night and on a Saturday night. Many of the girls working at the club sleep nearby in a facility that the owners run. (saw only one pimp pick up her girl at closing time).

Girls were a lot less attractive than the cream of the crop I usually go for at clubs like Sharks (my favorite FKK). However you can get a TON of couch time with the Paradise girls (and I tend to get my fare share at other clubs since I get along well with the ladies inside and out.) The place is REALLY chill, IMO more chill than Living Room in Germany which is about as chill as I have found in an FKK when it comes to not getting any pressure and getting lots of couch time. Rooms have all the amenities (like speakers, temp control) and are about as nice as I have seen however there are no good "MIRROR rooms" that for instance Sharks has under the fishbowl.

While I was there I spent 3 of my nights in Graz hanging out with a duo that is highly experienced in the mongering scene in Germany and Austria. One guy was 1/2 German / Austrian and the other guy was Austrian. The AUSTRIAN fellow supposedly even owned or managed one of the sex clubs in Graz in the past and he seemed to know everyone we met when we checked out other mongering sites. Anyway this duo supposedly had spent about 10 of the last 14 days / evening at Paradise. So, if you are ever in Graz I imagine that's the place to be.

The facility as previously reported isn't big. About the same size as Living room. I'd say Living Room is the most similar FKK that I have seen in comparison to Paradise.

Paradise is closed on Sundays so for my last night in Graz, we checked out the "best" Lufthause by my new friends recommendations. I passed on sessioning after interviewing 2 of the hotter women and didn't get the right vibe / answers to my parley. So, we ended up at Pascha (same chain as the famous one in Cologne) where we drank and had some fun but I would never go alone without friends. The girls at Pascha were really horrible when you compare it to the quality at Sharks and even Paradise, however if their was such a place in my hometown I'm sure I would hit it during a dry spell. It's all about supply and demand.

The girls I sessioned with, about 5 or 6 in two days REALLY tried hard to make me satisfied. I found some girls that took their work seriously ... however they just wern't as hot as the tops at other clubs. At least 2/3 of the girls get switched out every 3 weeks I'm told so you don't have as many regular girls. That would make it more interesting the next time I checked the place out as I would like to see some new options.

Food was fantastic BTW. You also get 2 wine / beer chips with your entrance and they have nice complimentary mints in front and mouth wash in the bathrooms (for the DFKers). There is a reduced entrance fee if you come earlier in the day too. Might be missing something, feel free to ask some questions in this thread if you want any more info. Bottom line IMO, If you have never been to any of the top clubs in Germany and just happen to be in Graz... GO GO GO. Hell, go if for any reason you are in Graz and want to get a good to great pay for sex experience. Just don't make it a destination for Mongering. Frankfurt and it's options are far better IMO. (same opinion as by a previous poster).

Cheers,

[NoTaWorry]

So, with my special little friend working at Paradise and taking such good care of me, I had little motivation to go anywhere else because I knew everyone else would pale in comparison to her.

I will likely return later this year, so I would be interested in anyone else's take on Paradise or any other places worth visiting in Graz. Unfortunately, the other places in Graz sound like they are either much more expensive or do not follow the FKK model.

Well I should be able to check out Paradise next weekend with a review to follow. BTW who is your friend. It's always good to have a few girls to be on the look out for. What does she look like? Specialty? I'm personally into thin girls with pretty faces that are good at DFK (and ideally deep throat). Usually the younger looking the better. Tit and ass size is relatively unimportant as long as it looks good (not floppy or cottagey etc.).

On a side not I will most likey visit Oase and Sharks in FRA before hitting Graz.

Cheers!

[UltraHappy]

Yes good review but I would question the comparison with FKK Oase (in Germany). Not sure if FKK Paradise (Graz) qualifies as a must visit club unless you are already in Austria for business / pleasure. I know that there have been recent changes to FKK Oase but guys still travel specifically to visit this club. Not sure if FKK Paradise would have (or deserve to have) the same drawing power.

I fully agree 100% with your opinion. That is why I recommended checking out the place only if you happened to be in the area and not making a special trip out there just to visit this place. I selected Oase as the baseline for comparison due to its wide familiarity to other mongers. If I selected a club that no one has ever heard of to compare Paradise to, that wouldn't have been useful as a baseline comparison for most readers, now would it?

If I compare a mountain to a mosquito to explain their difference in size, this does not mean that I am suggesting that these two things are equivalent.

[Der Auslander]

Yes good review but I would question the comparison with FKK Oase (in Germany). Not sure if FKK Paradise (Graz) qualifies as a must visit club unless you are already in Austria for business / pleasure. I know that there have been recent changes to FKK Oase but guys still travel specifically to visit this club. Not sure if FKK Paradise would have (or deserve to have) the same drawing power.

[UltraHappy]

Great review UltraHappy! Thank you very much. Will most likely check out the place in about a month. Any other places in Graz that you think I should check out? (I've been to about 4-5 fkk clubs and some smaller clubs in Germany.

Several other places are mentioned in this thread. I recorded the other places as backups when I went to Graz with the intention of possible checking out those other places, but was happy enough at Paradise that I never ventured out. Paradise has one of my all-time-favorites who I previously met outside of Austria. So, with my special little friend working at Paradise and taking such good care of me, I had little motivation to go anywhere else because I knew everyone else would pale in comparison to her.

I noticed a misspelling in my report of the hotel I stayed at. I had meant to type Hotel Roemerstube (The "oe" can be replaced with an o-umlaut. The forum spell check goofs up umlauts -- that's why the spelling go screwed up).

I will likely return later this year, so I would be interested in anyone else's take on Paradise or any other places worth visiting in Graz. Unfortunately, the other places in Graz sound like they are either much more expensive or do not follow the FKK model.

[NoTaWorry]

Great review UltraHappy! Thank you very much. Will most likely check out the place in about a month. Any other places in Graz that you think I should check out? (I've been to about 4-5 fkk clubs and some smaller clubs in Germany.

FKK-Paradise Graz, Am Engeldorfgrund 4, 8041 Graz-Liebenau, Tel +43 (0) 316-40 32 33.

Open Monday-Thursday 3 pm - 3 am and Fridays and Saturdays from 3 pm to 4 am.

I'm surprised that no one has done a proper review of this club. I popped in a couple of days during the week early this month. Very positive impression of the club and facilities. I recommend everyone who happens to be in the area to drop in.
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[UltraHappy]

FKK-Paradise Graz, Am Engeldorfgrund 4, 8041 Graz-Liebenau, Tel +43 (0) 316-40 32 33.

Open Monday-Thursday 3 pm - 3 am and Fridays and Saturdays from 3 pm to 4 am.

I'm surprised that no one has done a proper review of this club. I popped in a couple of days during the week early this month. Very positive impression of the club and facilities. I recommend everyone who happens to be in the area to drop in.

Pricing

If you show up before 6 pm, the Eintritt is only 50 Euros. After 6 pm, you're looking at 70 Euros.

Notably, a half hour with the girls is 60 Euros (not 50 Euros) as previously reported on this thread. So, one hour is naturally 120 Euros, which makes for a more expensive proposition than what most of us are used to in Hessen (or NRW for that matter).

Customer Service

Customer service was always outstanding from everyone, from the reception, the bartenders, the cooks, everyone. The customer service here would make you think you are in a high end American restaurant. Everyone is genuinely interested in how your stay is and was. I won't bore you with all the stories I heard from my girls about how this club is very customer-oriented, but you can trust that the management of this club is very interested in ensuring that its customers are happy.

Atmosphere / Facilities

The club is conveniently located about 10 minutes from the Graz airport (GRZ). Very easy to get to.

I can't recall a club I've been to in NRW or Hessen with a nicer lounge area or nicer rooms. Every room is cleaned and prepped between uses. The only demerit I can give the club on the rooms is the lack of full length mirrors on the walls. Music volume and light dimming can be individually controlled in each room.

19 rooms total, not including the VIP room and not including the kino.

I did not try the saunas or the massage while there but they looked nice. I did try out the kino several times. Very nicely done (though not terribly large). Seemed to be very infrequently used by the patrons, although I did see it being used for some oral enjoyment during my couple of days there.

Their restaurant insists that you wear your Bademantel and if you forget this, you will be counseled by the cook to return after you've put your bathrobe back on. I forgot this a couple of times since I'm used to Hessen dress. Regarding the food, I would liken it Sharks quality, cafeteria-like food. They had good variety, fish, different meats, potatoes, rice, pasta, salad, a soup of the day, a couple of desserts, and a variety of bread. I discovered that you can order made-to-order food here. For example, you can order an omelette for breakfast if you'd like and if the cook is available, they'll whip you up something. That's a nice touch. One word of warning: The Austrians put a ton of salt on everything. If you order something custom-made, you should instruct the cook not to add any salt at all. You better off adding salt to your own taste afterward.

The bracelet you are issued by reception has one of those RFID tags in it (like Goldentimes / Living Room) that automagically opens your locker when you wave your wrist in front of your locker. In your big clothes locker, there is a little money locker that locks to a specific code you assign to it. Word of caution: Do not close this little safe until you've programmed your secret code into the little safe or else you will have to call the receptionist over to help you open the safe with her long super secret code (like in my case).

Girls

When I was there, there were only about 13 girls present because about 13 girls were away on Summer holiday at the moment. So, it would seem that their numbers can swell up to around 26 or so when in full force. From talking to the girls there, it sounds like the club realizes its largest numbers in the winter (when folks come to Austria for ski vacations and the like).

I would say that the line-up percentage-wise is better than that of Oase (fewer girls from the lower end of the spectrum). But from a sheer numbers point, I could find more girls in Oase that suit my taste than here in Paradise due to the sheer larger numbers in Oase). Out of the line-up of 13 at Paradise, I would estimate 2 really great girls and 2 others that looked pretty decent. Most of the others I would pass over, according to my subjective personal preferences. I happen to be very picky so you should probably take my subjective girl evaluations with a grain of salt.

Very few girls are out on the floor at 3 pm. Maybe 4 girls. Most girls seem to arrive around 6 pm. 6 pm happens to coincide with when the warm dinner shows up in the cafeteria. Before 6 pm, it's just boring cold stuff (various meats, cheeses, bread, and salad). But remember, you can still order an omelette if you are hungry before 6 pm and don't feel like eating the cold stuff.

Very non-pushy atmosphere. Lots of free couch time -- this might be due to the fact that most customers seemed to be locals. In any case, the girls are all very laid-back and all were happy to chat with me for relatively long periods of time between Zimmers. No girl ever even suggested going to the room to me at any point. Never experienced any upsell or any pressure at any time.

Like all clubs in Austria, the girls have to have a current health card to work in this line of work. They go to the doctor weekly. If they fail their weekly test, they're out of a job until they can pass the test again.

Miscellaneous

There is a board on the second floor from which the girls grab a fluffy number tag for each room. This indicates that the room is in use. When the fluffy number sign is returned, it is dropped in a bowl to let the staff know that this room needs to be cleaned. I would glance at this board at various times throughout the day. Most of the days, about half the rooms would be in use at any given time. This surprised me because the place seemed rather a lot quieter than the actual activity there would suggest.

I stayed at Hotel aremerstube, about a 6 minute drive from the club. I recommend. For those familiar with the Mercure in Bad Homburg, you can expect something very similar. Clean, good quality rooms (albeit on the small side for American tastes but it works). No complaints about this hotel. I recommend it. You will find a big shopping mall called Nur Park about 250 meters walk down from the hotel in case you find yourself in need of anything.

Ok, I recommend you check this place out if you happen to be in the area, although I probably wouldn't make a special trip to Graz just to visit this club unless you had a special reason to go there (as was my case).

[Wanker1983]

Hey,

Anyone in Graz active next week in FFK mybe or similar?

What is happening with Graz I see theme is so inactive now.

Klagenfurt, Vilach also, please any advice.

Thanks

[Chrchr]

Graz has quite good places if you choose a Laufhaus. Service is good, proces are standard, you have got pictures and service lists in the house or in the internet. Concept is that the girl rents a room and you pass through the house for your selection. Recmonendations: "Laufhaus-nord. At","erotikcenter-graz. At".

God Luck

[Massimo Potente]

You are correct. 69 Euro entry and 50 Euro every half hour. That is. 50/50/50/50, etc. The daytime lineup can be quite light, sometimes only two girls, but the evening lineup has a much larger selection. Quality of lineup here is also pretty high compared to most of the big German FKK's.

One nice feature of this club is that all of the girls have to undergo weekly health checks and can't work unless they get a clean bill of health from the doctor. The doctor gives them a health card every week that they have to show to the club. If a girl has an infection, she has to wait for it to clear before she can come back to work.

Someone tells me that "sex clubs" are common in Graz (not fkk's, but something more like nightclubs with working girls). Anyone heard of these? Are they common? Anyone recommend any in particular?

Thanks for clearing that up. If the quality of girls is high compared to German FKKs then it must be pretty high indeed. The thing with the health card or as it is usually referred to as the "green card" (in Vienna it is green) is common in Austria. Girls must go to the doctor every week. So it is not exactly a feature of the club but of the Austrian Laws.

Sex clubs are common in almost any bigger city in Austria and Graz is no exception of course. The most famous ones seem to be Venus and Carisma, both of which are said to be very sweet.