China Women - Opinions and Advice

[Ikksman]

I spent some time in China and met several mature women who were prostitutes. Some mature Chinese can be really hot. However, most Chinese women 35 and older still have a traditional mindset and wouldn't engage in one-night stands or casual relationships. {S N I P}

Yes, you are mostly correct. But you overlook the critical fact that "most" probably still leaves a hundred million women who do not fit the "traditional mindset" (whatever that is).

In the mid to late 90's, there were many cities (and Zhuhai was probably the 'worst') , where there were thousands upon thousands of young WGs. These SYTs are now women in their 30's and 40's. (If you want to learn more about the period, read a reliable biography of the Toad, and how he caused China to descend into a cesspool of corruption, particularly after he became 'paramount leader' in 1989).

And for P4P, there are many 35+ women available for HE/BJ/FS in MPs (although post yanda in SZ, FS tends to be off premises). Even some saunas often have 35+ women. You can even find 35+ women on escort / outcall sites.

WRT married women, they of course keep their philandering secret, and laowai are often viewed as desirable and discreet partners for their liaisons.

Dating sites such as Chinalovecupid dot com and similar sites provide a seemingly unlimited supply of 35+ women and many of them are delectable and appreciative of a laowai's attention.

In conclusion, it is easy to find large numbers of 35+ women, and these 'freebies' have been a favourite of mine at various times.

BYT, even today there are many young SYTs who have what you term "a traditional mindset", and many SYTs do not want to be seen with a foreigner (as Chinese guys will consequently shun and look down on them). But there are still plenty left for us!

Ikks.

[Ikksman]

My favourite type of Chinese meimei:

• White tiger, or near white tiger - but definitely not the scratchy shaved plucked chicken variety
• Beautiful pink flesh meimei - the opposite of black, burnt wood-ear fungus (shāohuǐ mù ěr or hēi mù ěr).


Just my preference! What's yours?

Ikks.

[Charlie Shine]

I spent some time in China and met several mature women who were prostitutes. Some mature Chinese can be really hot. However, most Chinese women 35 and older still have a traditional mindset and wouldn't engage in one-night stands or casual relationships. Getting a bad reputation is similar to a death sentence in China; you're branded for life and people avoid you. So, the best thing you can do is contact brothels and ask for mature women. That's the easiest way.

The dating sites are full of older woman. Of course they won't say they are looking for casual sex and won't respond if you asked. Subtlety is the name of the game in China.

For casual relationships, the bigger cities are the way to go. I have had several in the 36-41 year old bracket and could have had several more had I been more proactive in my 6 months in Beijing.

I suggest badoo and okcupid. A decent photo helps as does the facade that you will be here long term, love China, want to learn Chinese. Whatever nonsense they ask, just nod and smile.

Most Chinese woman are all for 'try before you buy' in regards to sex.

If its pay for play you want then all 2nd or 3rd tier cities have loads of woman in the 36-56 why / o bracket for between 30 - 200 rmb. Railways stations are good places to find brothels as are low rent areas after sundown. When I was in Nanning in the south I used to get an awesome BJ off a woman in her 50's. I 'd lie back and she would be at the foot of the bed sucking for all her life. She only asked for 30 rmb. Of course I tipped her another 20 (I wasn't carrying anything lower. LOL).

[Big Ass Eater]

Any thoughts on how to hook up with older (35+) women? All the places seem to be offering young girls.

Interested in Shanghai, Wuhan, Shenzhen.

Thanks to all!

I spent some time in China and met several mature women who were prostitutes. Some mature Chinese can be really hot. However, most Chinese women 35 and older still have a traditional mindset and wouldn't engage in one-night stands or casual relationships. Getting a bad reputation is similar to a death sentence in China; you're branded for life and people avoid you. So, the best thing you can do is contact brothels and ask for mature women. That's the easiest way.

[Ikksman]

This post is an extension of a post of mine on the SZ forum, but is more suited to be under this forum heading. It is not intended to be the last word on freebies, but is purely based on my experience and knowledge. It may assist those members contemplating the freebie opportunities.

1. SYTs: The Pearl River Delta can be called a megacity of 50 - 60 million with a huge number of factories (footwear and electronics). These factories employ millions of young girls from rural areas in the surrounding provinces (many more females than males). There are factories that employ 10,000 more females than males (Foxconn employs 100,000 more females). There are some valid reasons for this disparity, but this is outside the scope of this post. Combine this with the preponderance of girls employed in shops and restaurants, then there are obviously plenty of opportunities as many SYTs are happy to go out with a foreigner for a variety of reasons. Some SYTs who have had some exposure to foreigners even regard them as guys who show them more respect and treat them better (than Chinese guys).

2. Left over women: Chinese men prefer young girls, and if they live in cities, are able to satisfy this preference. So if a city girl reaches 27 or 28, she virtually becomes unmarriageable. Actually, there are plenty of guys back in the girls' home towns who have limited chances of marriage, and who would eagerly marry them. But the educated, more sophisticated city girls would never again be happy with a home town guy - someone they now view as a country bumpkin who spits spittle, bones and other inedible food on the floor, etc. The 'left over' women often view foreigners as a chance for happiness with someone who will treat them equally.

3. Neglected married women: Some Chinese husbands (who probably did not marry for love), after they have fulfilled their filial obligations of producing a son, prefer to look elsewhere for their sexual fulfilment - either visiting KTV and saunas or, if they have the money, procuring one or more 'ernai'. This leaves large numbers (in absolute terms), of wives who decide to look elsewhere for satisfaction. Foreigners are often seen as a discreet low-risk attraction.

4. Mothers with daughters: Most Chinese men still prefer to marry a young sexually inexperienced girl. And very, very few Chinese guys would be prepared to risk their parents' wrath by marrying a 'mother', particularly if they are not allowed to have another child. The mothers tend to view foreigners, who do not have a prejudice against an existing child, as potential partners.

Whilst I document that there are large numbers of girls in these categories, remember that there is a huge population base, so the actual percentages that are possible opportunities for us, may still be quite small. Thus, do not stereotype based on my writing. However, the opportunities are very real as the numbers are definitely big!

Ikksman.

P.S. There is a non-freebie aspect that intrigues me. Many well-trained sauna girls etc return to their hometown and marry home town men whose level of sexual experience and expertise are way below hers. Of course the SYTs would never reveal their sexual prowess to their new husband. The guys have no idea that they are married to champion cock suckers, fire and ice experts, and even anal lovers. Do most of these girls settle happily into their new role, or do some pine for the excitement and sexual satisfaction of the encounters in their previous existence? Just thinking!

[Ikksman]

This post is prompted by a chance reading of another post here, and is based purely on my experiences. Unfortunately, my experience is minimal compared to members like Old Asia Hand who, some 10 years ago, admitted to banging about 3,000 WGs (I wonder what the total is now?).

I have probably banged maybe 100 WGs and some 265 freebies over 12 1/2 years in China (pitiful total I admit - I get too attached to a few special freebies).

Anyway, not one of my freebies has ever complained about the size of my LB, or really being hurt by it. I have seen a look of surprise on some of their faces, and there have been occasional difficult entries.

However, many of the WGs have complained that I was too big, asked me to hurry up as they were in pain, or complained that I had ruined their little sister. GFEs were the exception rather than the rule.

I wonder if your experiences and your conclusion are similar to mine?

Ikksman

[Member #4495]

Solid advice Moth, another thing I want to offer is that there's a Chinese Tinder called Tantan, may have better luck there than Tinder.

Just put yourself out there. Go to bars and chat to women. Hell, go to department stores, supermarkets, anywhere and get talking to them. If you don't know how to break the ice try asking for directions and then thank profusely with an invitation to Starbucks. Unmarried women in China are like Christmas cake - unwanted after the 25th. Giving attention to a woman 35+ who looks after herself but still can't get a guy interested I'm sure will pay dividends.

Also get online, use dating websites like Date in Asia, tinder, etc and also social media: WeChat, QQ, Momo and use the look around / people nearby functions. Fire off greeting messages and see who replies. Your hardest part may well be managing the demand!

Good luck. This is not the voice of experience but a compendium of info gleaned from RTFF'ing. Let us know how it goes!

[Moth To Flames]

Any thoughts on how to hook up with older (35+) women? All the places seem to be offering young girls.

Interested in Shanghai, Wuhan, Shenzhen.

Thanks to all!

Just put yourself out there. Go to bars and chat to women. Hell, go to department stores, supermarkets, anywhere and get talking to them. If you don't know how to break the ice try asking for directions and then thank profusely with an invitation to Starbucks. Unmarried women in China are like Christmas cake - unwanted after the 25th. Giving attention to a woman 35+ who looks after herself but still can't get a guy interested I'm sure will pay dividends.

Also get online, use dating websites like Date in Asia, tinder, etc and also social media: WeChat, QQ, Momo and use the look around / people nearby functions. Fire off greeting messages and see who replies. Your hardest part may well be managing the demand!

Good luck. This is not the voice of experience but a compendium of info gleaned from RTFF'ing. Let us know how it goes!

[OldAsiaHand]

Any thoughts on how to hook up with older (35+) women? All the places seem to be offering young girls.

Interested in Shanghai, Wuhan, Shenzhen.

Thanks to all!

GoldMeister,

You can have all the 35+ women you want in China for free. There are very few at this age still on the game.

Just my POV.

OAH.

[GoldMeister]

Any thoughts on how to hook up with older (35+) women? All the places seem to be offering young girls.

Interested in Shanghai, Wuhan, Shenzhen.

Thanks to all!

[SE Asia Joe]

Thanks SEAJ. I agree with you. I also abhor the shaved 'white plucked chickens' because when I DATY:

1. I dislike getting my face scratched when the shave is more than a day or two old.

2. I dislike the sight of previously hidden ingrown hairs.

3. There is the risk of catching disease (and yes, HIV) via the even minute amounts of blood on freshly shaved pubes.

Just my personal beliefs and preferences!

Ikksman.

Precisely!

I guess you and I grew up about the same time, sneaking peeks at our older brother's Playboy magazines and getting all excited when that publication and Penthouse started showing wisps of pubes! Man, those pictures are way more erotic than the full blown porn available all over nowadays.

I also enjoy DATY but usually reserve such for civvies and try to refrain when with WG's. I don't know, I guess it's silly as pros are probably more fastidious with their hygiene and get checked out more regularly – but be that as it may!

But I also notice that nowadays, more and more of our Oriental beauties seem to be enamored of DATY – some even actually asking for it! I remember that scant few years ago, most of them would consider this to be the depth of depravity, but now?

I hope that they do NOT adapt too many of the thoughts and practices of their strident Western sisters – especially disfiguring themselves by shaving. YUCK!

And reading some of the "demands" by WG's in the US-centric provider sites – cannot believe that guys would actually still want to partake after reading what they demand of their clientele.

Just musing.

SEAJ

[Ikksman]

I hope that no one noticed, but there was a sentence missing from my 'White Tiger' post of the 1/16/2015 (http://www.internationalsexguide.inf...=1#post1669722).

The omission made the post a bit illogical. It should have read:

"Traditionally, a girl with no pubic hair was considered to be probably infertile. She was thus considered to be bad luck as the family lineage was (and is) so important to Chinese. Later, the superstition became broader to include that guys would have bad luck if they slept with girls without pubes.

"The rare white tiger is related to the symbol of jinx in China history, and in Feng shui a white tiger picture or statue can cause extreme bad luck if ill-positioned. If you follow Chinese astrology you will know that 2010 was a white tiger year (metal = white) and was considered, by many traditionalists, a very unlucky year (the mainly wooden tiger would fight with the metal element).

"The Chinese have bred white tigers in captivity for many years, and they have become largely infertile due to inbreeding.

"Thus, girls without pubic hair became known as 'white tigers' - ie bad luck!

Ikksman.

[Bnlee2]

Thanks SEAJ. I agree with you. I also abhor the shaved 'white plucked chickens' because when I DATY:

1. I dislike getting my face scratched when the shave is more than a day or two old.

2. I dislike the sight of previously hidden ingrown hairs.

3. There is the risk of catching disease (and yes, HIV) via the even minute amounts of blood on freshly shaved pubes.

Just my personal beliefs and preferences!

Ikksman.

I love both natural (which is very rare) and plucked.

[Ikksman]

Sheesh OAH, thou hath again exaggerate!
I just have a penchant for NATURAL white tigers and total abhorrence for white plucked chickens, which is how many refers to shaved nookies in the Cantonese vernacular.
Which of course replies you Ikksman!
SEAJ

Thanks SEAJ. I agree with you. I also abhor the shaved 'white plucked chickens' because when I DATY:

1. I dislike getting my face scratched when the shave is more than a day or two old.

2. I dislike the sight of previously hidden ingrown hairs.

3. There is the risk of catching disease (and yes, HIV) via the even minute amounts of blood on freshly shaved pubes.

Just my personal beliefs and preferences!

Ikksman.

[SE Asia Joe]

Ikksman,

You can reconfirm with SEAJ (he is the White Tiger expert) but, IMHO, it must be natural to be genuine.

Just my POV.

OAH

Sheesh OAH, thou hath again exaggerate!

I just have a penchant for NATURAL white tigers and total abhorrence for white plucked chickens, which is how many refers to shaved nookies in the Cantonese vernacular.

Which of course replies you Ikksman!

SEAJ