China Women - Opinions and Advice

[SE Asia Joe]

Ok so now let's ask the question.

Does anyone know a single WG (or Chinese girl civi) that has a good close relationship with their father. Most WGs clearly do not and are much closer to their mothers with often distant fathers or missing fathers. Having spoken to a few, they seem to talk of their mother, sisters, but rarely brothers and almost never fathers. Recently a friend of mine for a few years was drunk and told me her father hates her. She has hidden this for years and rarely spoke of him, but hates her was extreme and her walls were down and soul bared.

SEAJ where do you fall on the my daddy hates me WG. We all know that strippers stateside often fall in this category.

Know what?

Now that I'm thinking of it,

I think You're right!

I can right now NOT think of any PRC WG's that loves their Dad more than their Mom. In fact, thinking about it, I've hardly ever heard any Chinese WG's tell me that they're even close to their dad. Provide for him, send him money, buy clothes / presents for him, even worried about his health etc. But really, not any gal I can think of at this moment who's expressed she really loves her dad.

But this is just TOO bizarre! Too incredible!

I mean Really? No Chinese WG's love their Dad?

SEAJ

[Freepeaks]

try to have her talk about her dad, you 'll pretty quickly make her see that there is a contradiction between her unrealistic expectations and the real image she has of Chinese husbands, therefore the idea that was implemented that foreign husbands are "no good" will pretty quickly become "but on the other hand Chinese men are such pigs, after marriage they never help at home and spend their free time out drinking or at the KTV".

More often than not, their dad ignores them (usually not involved the children's education) , which leaves an emotional weakness that you can adress easily. For example, one way to do it that always stuns me, is by using the long forgotten occidental art of cheesy lines. Cheesy lines don't work here anymore since the 1960's. Well in China, it works and goes a long way, since girls get addicted pretty wuickly to having someone tellling them nice things. She might smile at first, but believe me, they love it, and the more you say it, the more she starts to get addicted, soon enough she will stop seeing you as a foreigner and start seeing you as the nicest person around her. If you don't believe me, just listen to the amount of crap a French guy says on a date with a Chinese girl, it's mind blowing! Yeah ok, you can smile, but let's face it, they get the girls. They just know how to tell them what they want to hear.

Ok so now let's ask the question.

Does anyone know a single WG (or Chinese girl civi) that has a good close relationship with their father. Most WGs clearly do not and are much closer to their mothers with often distant fathers or missing fathers. Having spoken to a few, they seem to talk of their mother, sisters, but rarely brothers and almost never fathers. Recently a friend of mine for a few years was drunk and told me her father hates her. She has hidden this for years and rarely spoke of him, but hates her was extreme and her walls were down and soul bared.

SEAJ where do you fall on the my daddy hates me WG. We all know that strippers stateside often fall in this category.

[Freepeaks]

Well, what's more convenient than allowing a guy to DATY, feign extreme and "At Last" satisfaction, whilst telling the John that she's NEVER had such a perfect lover.

And then to have him become HER slave?

LOL.

SEAJ

Just not buying that. Too many girls are very uncomfortable with that area not being 'clean' as they have been told for 18+ years. So the idea.

That now they use that to slave a guy. SEAJ. Really.

But there are more girls that are into having an orgasm rather than just having sex to appease the guy. More aggressive, more demanding.

Wanting to come that is if they like you. If they don't you can expect the dead fish.

[SE Asia Joe]

If you guys don't mind. Another take on this question as to DATY and the Chinese WG's.

Ok, yes DATY had not been "popular" amongst Chinese in the past; most Chinese guys just will not go down on their gals, civvie or WG's, as to a Chinese, such act lowers the status of the male and is just too much subjugation to their manly pride.

And thus the low (er) prevalence of afficianadoes to the art of cunningulus in China, at least up to now.

Then take into consideration the very professional guile of WG's.

WG's knows that the most effective "hook" they can have on a guy is when the guy himself feels that he is "the Man" to her; that if the John thinks that he's "proven" himself to be the BEST lover that the gal ever had, that he's going to come back time and time again. It's just the Male pride in all of us males.

Well, what's more convenient than allowing a guy to DATY, feign extreme and "At Last" satisfaction, whilst telling the John that she's NEVER had such a perfect lover.

And then to have him become HER slave?

LOL.

SEAJ

[Gualtier Malde]

I agree with this post pretty much. I think oral sex is less of a hook for the girls than a few sweet words and since I know you GM, I can attest you give them those as well as the oral sex bit! .

You are surely right about the hook of sweet words, BL! And you are the master (it helps that you know a helluva lot more Chinese than I do!)

GM

[Blacklisted]

I agree with this post pretty much. I think oral sex is less of a hook for the girls than a few sweet words and since I know you GM, I can attest you give them those as well as the oral sex bit! .

[ShangHangin]

Also, oral sex done well will addict most of them to you. They may tell you they don't want it at first (its a cultural thing) , but they sure are happy to get it once you get past that small barrier (most really do want it even if they say "don't") , and it will be a primary reason that they want to see you again.

GM.

GM,

I could not agree more. Recently had one massage girl I do take out with who texted me to hook up. When we met, she basically stripped and demanded I go down on her. Previously, she was of the "no, don't" variety, but now a convert. I have had many like that.

SH

[Gualtier Malde]

Ha! Ha! You make it sound like you are an expert. Why is it that your other post under China is seeking advice saying you have zero experience with Chinese girls?

LAG, I think that was poor quote editing on his part. About half of his post was a quote that was not properly identified. His text starts about halfway down the post.

Pinaypounder, suggest you preview your reports before submitting.

GM.

[Loveasiangirls]

[QUOTE=Pinaypounder; 1225879]

while I agree for th most part with what you say, I believe that few single Chinese girls are actually out of reach if you know how to proceed.

See it's common, in China, to criticise girls who date foreigners and dismiss them as being ugly, desperate, uneducated etc.

As a result, Chinese society managed to implement the idea that real nice girls prefer Chinese guys, and foreigners only date ugly stupid ones.

Thanks for this. I am headed to China soon and will spend 4 months there net year working and I was seeking ithis kind of imput. All women and all humans or 99. 8 are indeed centered around their hearts and the need for love and acceptance.

Every girl wants their father to love them and to more importantly take care of them. Hello, that is where us "older established " gentleman can shine.

It costs nothing to compliment and their traditional ways alone make them superior to Western Women. So it all boils down to my manners in College, smile and wave and be the big brother to all women and you won't sleep alone much.

Good job

Ha! Ha! You make it sound like you are an expert. Why is it that your other post under China is seeking advice saying you have zero experience with Chinese girls?

[Gualtier Malde]

. Usually when I smile to a girl in the street, she smiles back (maybe it would be different if I was old and fat). .

Nope, I can attest, even if you are old and fat, she smiles back.

I pretty much agree with the rest of your post. Compliments do go a very long way. Also, oral sex done well will addict most of them to you. They may tell you they don't want it at first (its a cultural thing) , but they sure are happy to get it once you get past that small barrier (most really do want it even if they say "don't") , and it will be a primary reason that they want to see you again.

GM.

[Pinaypounder]

[QUOTE=Onadlos; 1225756]while I agree for th most part with what you say, I believe that few single Chinese girls are actually out of reach if you know how to proceed.

See it's common, in China, to criticise girls who date foreigners and dismiss them as being ugly, desperate, uneducated etc.

As a result, Chinese society managed to implement the idea that real nice girls prefer Chinese guys, and foreigners only date ugly stupid ones.

Thanks for this. I am headed to China soon and will spend 4 months there net year working and I was seeking ithis kind of imput. All women and all humans or 99. 8 are indeed centered around their hearts and the need for love and acceptance.

Every girl wants their father to love them and to more importantly take care of them. Hello, that is where us "older established " gentleman can shine.

It costs nothing to compliment and their traditional ways alone make them superior to Western Women. So it all boils down to my manners in College, smile and wave and be the big brother to all women and you won't sleep alone much.

Good job

[Onadlos]

"I am not so desperate to have to date a westerner." Afterwards, she said she should not have said that and she tried to soften the blow a bit by explaining that some Chinese girls do like foreigners but this does not apply to her.

I believe that the message she conveyed does apply to the vast majority of normal Chinese girls. All things being equal, most prefer to be with locals or overseas Chinese, not foreigners. There are always exceptions to every rule, but, IMHO, this only applies to a very small minority of regular girls in China.

OAH

while i agree for th most part with what you say, i believe that few single chinese girls are actually out of reach if you know how to proceed.
See it's common, in China, to criticise girls who date foreigners and dismiss them as being ugly, desperate, uneducated etc.
As a result, Chinese society managed to implement the idea that real nice girls prefer Chinese guys, and foreigners only date ugly stupid ones.

SO whenever you speak to a girl, she never feels a part of these "bad seeds", she is of course different, special, and doesn't care about foreigners.

Now believe me when I say that whatever bullshit they say to try to convince themselves, they all end up in your bed regardless. Of course some girls show no interest at all in foreigners, but they are not that many. Usually when I smile to a girl in the street, she smiles back (maybe it would be different if I was old and fat)., and once you figure out a way to start a conversation and isolate her from her other chinese friends (which definitely is the hardest part), things can turn to your advantage.

There is basically little difference between a regular Chinese girl and the one you end up with, except that regular girls don't speak english so foreigners are de facto out of their league, so they don't even consider them as an option. If any girl starts talking about Chinese guys being nicer and better at understanding their "true heart", just listen for a couple of hours and try to have her talk about her dad, you 'll pretty quickly make her see that there is a contradiction between her unrealistic expectations and the real image she has of Chinese husbands, therefore the idea that was implemented that foreign husbands are "no good" will pretty quickly become "but on the other hand Chinese men are such pigs, after marriage they never help at home and spend their free time out drinking or at the KTV".

More often than not, their dad ignores them (usually not involved the children's education) , which leaves an emotional weakness that you can adress easily. For example, one way to do it that always stuns me, is by using the long forgotten occidental art of cheesy lines. Cheesy lines don't work here anymore since the 1960's. Well in China, it works and goes a long way, since girls get addicted pretty wuickly to having someone tellling them nice things. She might smile at first, but believe me, they love it, and the more you say it, the more she starts to get addicted, soon enough she will stop seeing you as a foreigner and start seeing you as the nicest person around her. If you don't believe me, just listen to the amount of crap a French guy says on a date with a chinese girl, it's mind blowing ! Yeah ok, you can smile, but let's face it, they get the girls. They just know how to tell them what they want to hear.

Believe me, once you make her believe she is so special, and manage to maintain a certain level of tension (if you become to nice it dosn't work; you have to play good cop bad cop) you create a bond between you and her, she'll become addicted pretty quickly and forget about her local friends "who have been waiting for her since high school". Even if she was a "traditionnal girl" "no speak english" at the beggining.

[Clean Gene]

I agree about the virtues of having a country woman at home BUT the big question is: how do you find one? Aren't we talking about a really poor and remote village? Some foreigner can't just go there and say that they're looking for a "housekeeper" who's 19 and beautiful. Are there agents?

Interested in the brothers' thoughts.

I've not had luck with agencies. Women want to often extra favors.

My last housekeeper has been passed to me by an acquaintance. My present one was a girlfriend a couple of decades ago. We don't have sex. But she gives BJ now and then to get didi up.

I'll write later how I find lady friends.

CG

[PlayaPan]

I've now encountered Chinese women in several countries. (I do not live in China.) A lot of them come across as very genuine, interested in enduring relationships, marriage and green card. I have now fallen for one of these in a big way. I think she would make a great wife. Clearly the green card and jump to a better lifestyle are a big incentive for her. She is 18 years younger than me. I wonder whether she would commit to me permanently. Views, anyone?

Not sure if troll or just stupid.

[Meiguoguizi]

I was chatting online with a Chinese girl from Jilin now living and working in Hong Kong. She is a highly educated, professional, single, lady with a good job.

Being from N. China, she was very straightforward. Without thinking about it, she said, and I quote,"I am not so desperate to have to date a westerner." Afterwards, she said she should not have said that and she tried to soften the blow a bit by explaining that some Chinese girls do like foreigners but this does not apply to her.

I believe that the message she conveyed does apply to the vast majority of normal Chinese girls. All things being equal, most prefer to be with locals or overseas Chinese, not foreigners. There are always exceptions to every rule, but, IMHO, this only applies to a very small minority of regular girls in China.

OAH

In my opinion, this is certainly true. The question then is: how to locate the exceptions?

My observation among college students is that there is a subset of students who are in love with western 'culture', generally media, and have an attraction to everything Western, including men. They routinely speak at least some English and are anxious to improve it. They will frequent restaurants, bars, etc, that attract Westerners. This does not include 'working girl bars'. It helps if these places are in areas near college campuses.

If you are young and / or handsome you just have to locate the places. If you are older your approach requires patience, cultural sensitivity, discretion and 'indirect' money in the form of entertainment and shopping.