South China - Dongguan

[Sex Lover]

After the Sauna, sit down chit chat with the manager, Ah Jun ( 阿&#20891. He was really nice, when 1 out of 5 of us taking the service only. Have a bowl of noddles and half boil eggs. We left the sauna around 9.30pm and headed back to Diying Hotel ( 帝盈酒店 ) with the KTV東方魅力 just next door.

I am so tired, and all my friends were energized. I went back to hotel for a rest and 4 of them proceed to the KTV東方魅力 1st. We booked the room before going to the sauna. It was late when we arrived at the KTV東方魅力, most girls have been taken. The leftover who were chosen by my friends were not bad either. ( Imagine if we can come early and what kind of girls would that be). I joined them around 10.30pm, the manager, 程龙 show me 1st batch of girls, all declined with the first look. ( At that time, I know I should lower my standard of girls since we were late and I was tired after the sauna.) The 1st batch were terrible. I told the manager, 程龙 the girls were terrible and he didn’t hard sales to me, from the look he were like he must make customer happy so he went out, minutes later he brought me one young girls with natural beauty. There I took her, her name are Wang Fei ( yap , same as the hk singer). She looks sweet, energetic, beauty, not much of make-up ,young, most of all looks like my ex-colleague.

Ok, now let me try me best to describe the KTV room we were in.

It was new, clean, modern, 2 big screen (1 in front and 1 by the side), comfort couch, bar, toilet, great sound system, touch screen songs selection.

During the time in KTV, there were always some entertainment from the manager, 程龙. Eg, some dance group of 4 came in for some great modern dance, adult games like (I have forgotten the sequences)

1) Squeeze breasts.

1st you have to squeeze your gal/gals breast, then you will be blindfold and test squeezing all the gals breast and try identify your gal/gals. If guest wrong the first time then you will drink 1 full glass of beer. If guest 2nd time wrong, you will have to drink from the crotch of your gal/gals. In this game, you will get to squeeze all the breast. WOW.

2) Strip dance
Well this is easy. All strip, including the guys. All of us were fucking naked in the room. One of my friend was given a bj from his gal. Wow, what a scene to remember. And one of my friend were totally naked and all his cloth and underwear were hide away, he has to go look for it for some time being naked. haha.

3) Dance group of 4 , this was brought in by the manager程龙 to give us some entertainment.

4) Singing on the speaker/woofer with my gal.

5) Bra off time. Manager程龙 ask all gals to take their bra off. WOW , wild time again for all of us to run around to grab others breast. Hehe…

6) As usual the dice game.

We have fun the whole nite without any quite moment. All the time there were something on in the room. I can claimed it was the best KTV session I have had in whole life visiting KTV in Malaysia.

I think we all left around 3am. Take my girl back to the room, well due to my tireness. I was unable to do anything with my gal that nite.

Well at least I did it in the morning. Haha. For those who have not been to CA , I recommend you should try at least once for you to able to tell the different. All the girls in the room that nite, were great, they have great attitude to please the customers , never say no to anything you can request. That’s the best.

And further add on for the Diying Hotel ( 帝盈酒&#24215, the service provided from all the staffs were great, easily beaten any 5 or even 6 star hotels that I have stayed in. All with the smile and nice service level up till we enter the van and driving away.

Now we will travel to CP.

To be continue

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[Bob Builder]

The numbers are dwindling because the girls are making an early exit to their hometown for CNY. Others may have left CP for home during the recent crackdowns and decided not to come back until after CNY. Either way, I expect the numbers to go back up to normal levels after the holiday. As BB says, there is a never ending stockpile of BBS girls in the countryside that are keen to migrate to greener pastures. When they see their friends coming back from DG bearing gifts for the family, these new recruits will be on the same bus/train back with them

Just my POV.

OAH

Someone sees a few less gals around and predicts the end of p4p in some part of Dongguan and it hasn't happened yet. But if you around long enough like around 10 years the predictions will come true.

Gals also like to move around as then whereever they end up they can be marketed as fresh, whereas if you spend all your time in the same place and a gal is exceptional, chances are you would not pick her again or she finds a benefactor.

[Weelock]

Wapec, any gal that would lick your fat arse must be a desperate mongrel mutt!

Funny, lucky both of you two know each other.

[Panyu]

Staying in CP for more than 4 days, I often go to get a footie during the day. Brunch/lunch, then off to the footies, after 2 or 3 hours, go to the BBSs or SNs, then cap it off with a KTV fun. Good times.

Qian Zu Foot Massage.

There are two branches in CP. I went to the one across the street from Lion Hotel. This is perhaps one of the best looking massage places I've been to in CP. Quite famous and professional, the rooms are nice, the seats are comfy, and the service is very good. The pretty girls are hit or miss since they have so many masseuses. I went with guys who've been going there for years and they know a few who's pretty and have good attitudes. The footie was great and I have to say this can become one of my favorites. Paid 90 or so rmb for 2 hours.

Footies are pretty damn fun. If you get a pretty one, lucky you! But in any case, a massage is a massage even done by an ugly girl (which is pretty rare). A few hanky-panky footies were reported by BSD, so if that's your cup of tea, then you've got options. Otherwise, veggie ones are just as good if not better for muscle relaxation.

Thanks for the report on the footies. I have only party several times in CP, so not too familiar with the area. I usually party in Panyu and normally start my day by going to the legit footies. Never had a chance to try the footies in CP. Where is Qian Zu located? Is it near the Miraton?

[Santa]

Wapec, any gal that would lick your fat arse must be a desperate mongrel mutt!

[OldAsiaHand]

Bottom line is... BBS girls are dwindling in numbers. There was a prediction that BBS-es would be sifted out of CP, the lower cost/type of mongering; I guess it may be coming true. It would be sad if this becomes reality. KTV and sauna girls are still high in numbers and thriving.

The numbers are dwindling because the girls are making an early exit to their hometown for CNY. Others may have left CP for home during the recent crackdowns and decided not to come back until after CNY. Either way, I expect the numbers to go back up to normal levels after the holiday. As BB says, there is a never ending stockpile of BBS girls in the countryside that are keen to migrate to greener pastures. When they see their friends coming back from DG bearing gifts for the family, these new recruits will be on the same bus/train back with them

Just my POV.

OAH

[BruceTea]

Staying in CP for more than 4 days, I often go to get a footie during the day. Brunch/lunch, then off to the footies, after 2 or 3 hours, go to the BBSs or SNs, then cap it off with a KTV fun. Good times.

Some interesting footies:

Pozolim (Across from Miraton). This is perhaps the most recognized footie place in CP. Veggie, so no hanky-panky (but no one said anything about after work, which Racetrack and others have confirmed). Kinda more expensive, but you get some good service and some good deals if you go at the right time. We went at 12:30. The hostess took us to our room we reserved (always call ahead cause they fill up quickly). My friend used English to make fun of the way she walked, saying she walked like a duck and giggled like a fool, so by the time we got to the room, she was all cold and somewhat rude. The room was newly renovated, so had that new paint smell. We requested another room. Got to a larger room and got our masseuses. They were ok cute. We ordered our complimentary drink and fruit. Since we went during lunchtime, we ordered lunch which was COMPLIMENTARY! Yea!! But it took a bit longer to arrive. Lots of choices from rice to noodles to sandwiches. The massage was great. Girls were friendly and chatty. And yes, they speak "some" English. Finished 2 hours, paid less than 100 rmb each and left very satisfied. Pozolim also has full body massage and all kinds of massage. The masseuses we saw were cute and aged 20-28. And again, it's not a hanky-panky place, so don't expect any HJ or groping in the room. But the girls are fun and some English is understood (which is because a lot of English speaking Asians come here). So make fun of the workers here at your own discretion.

PP hotel/Foot massage
On the 4th floor of PP hotel. Near Lion Hotel and Lucky Hotel. On the first floor is a shopping floor. We went up and they are renovating a whole floor. The hostess took us through a maze of hotel rooms to a section where the rooms have footie chairs. 3 chairs in the room, a regular TV, and a bathroom (with leaks and water on the floor). A dump we thought. We sat down and got our complimentary drink and fruit. Two not so pretty and chubby girls came in and started. First they filled up hot water (from the bathroom, lol) into a plastic, red water basin (the one where Chinese people wash their ass or laundry in)...Weird sh!t. We were laughing the entire time. This place was "recommended" by someone who's white and knows PP quite well (you know who YOU are...). Anyhow, aside from soaking our feet in a water basin (did I mention it was a small sized basin?) without salt or medicine, we got our regular foot massage. It was quite good! Quite ok for the price we paid. For 2 hours, it was less than 70 rmb. #56 and #22 are cute in their own way and fun to chat with.

Lion Hotel Footie.
5th floor, I believe. Place was old and run down, but the hostess took us to the room and asked us if we wanted a regular masseuse or a better looking masseuse (for something like 5 rmb difference). We requested a better looking masseuse and after a wait, three not so better looking masseuses came in. The place was full and masseuses were in demand hour after hour. Lots of tour groups come here for a cheap footie. Again, call ahead and reserve your room AND your masseuse. They have a movie channel which was cool. We watched like 3 movies there, Billy Madison, The Brothers Grimm and one HK movie about ghosts. No hanky-panky and a ok massage. Total was like 80 rmb for 2 hours.

Qian Zu Foot Massage.
There are two branches in CP. I went to the one across the street from Lion Hotel. This is perhaps one of the best looking massage places I've been to in CP. Quite famous and professional, the rooms are nice, the seats are comfy, and the service is very good. The pretty girls are hit or miss since they have so many masseuses. I went with guys who've been going there for years and they know a few who's pretty and have good attitudes. The footie was great and I have to say this can become one of my favorites. Paid 90 or so rmb for 2 hours.

Footies are pretty damn fun. If you get a pretty one, lucky you! But in any case, a massage is a massage even done by an ugly girl (which is pretty rare). A few hanky-panky footies were reported by BSD, so if that's your cup of tea, then you've got options. Otherwise, veggie ones are just as good if not better for muscle relaxation.

[Wapec]

DH, dude this story rings a familiar tone with me. More power to ya ! Wapecy

Went to the Walter Sauna at around 2pm with BSD, and 2 other dudes. Slim pickings as we were too early. Oh well, other 2 guys picked girls, as for me, I did not partake because I was not hungry.

Called Santa and went to the BBS instead. We were just shopping around for fun. Went to all the shops in Yalan, except Swan Lake. I'm not sure why, but numbers are low in many shops. However, Jo Jo's and Baby's shop had decent quantities. I saw no one of interest, but asked for the girl I had the day before. The mommy said okay and said she was on the way. So I told her I was going to come back for her, cause there were more shops to see. 15 minutes passed and we were coming out of the Yalan KTV BBS, we hear the mommy calling us with the requested girl in tow. So I paid the mommy, on the street, kind of scary to do that, but hey, whatever. Went back to hotel and did the deed.

Long story short, I wanted her for LT because she has that look that I like and it was supposedly date night, but she said she couldn't. Then she calls me 2 hours later, we negotiate a price for LT, she says okay. She meets me for dinner with Jim Traveller, she then says she needs to leave for 2 more hours and then come back, I know its from BF or client. I say no and she gets a call from BF or client (Again) and she talks to him in front of Jim. Jim confirms its BF/client. She then leaves the table to talk on cell phone, beacause she realizes Jim understands what she is saying. I tell Jim to kick her out, I was kind of mad already. She then says she will be going and left. It was already 10pm by then. I was kind of tired and decided to take it easy for the night.

Bottom line is... BBS girls are dwindling in numbers. There was a prediction that BBS-es would be sifted out of CP, the lower cost/type of mongering; I guess it may be coming true. It would be sad if this becomes reality. KTV and sauna girls are still high in numbers and thriving.

[Wapec]

Respectfully, I disagree having been on the receiving end of a hottie's tongue lashing.

JMPOV & each to his own.

..... and licking someone's arsehole is not natural to anyone but a dog, LOL.....

[Bob Builder]

Additionally, individual girls may move "up the ladder" from BBS to Sauna to KTV as opportunity presents itself. The primary consideration, of course, is money. The secondary consideration is a location that will minimize the likelihood of bumping into someone from their hometown.
The primary career qualifications are beauty and youth. Unfortunately, as experience increases, so does their age. Chinese mongers seem not as tolerant as lao wai for 'seasoned' professionals in their late 20's. Japanese are notorious for their post-pubescent tastes.
I have several long-term 'friends' in the business who are now 24,25,or 26 years old. Their litany is how bad business is. In reality, they are being chosen less and less because of their age.

The "ladder" theory is a common misconception. You assume that a gal makes more money that way but its not so as there are other considerations.
Just a few:
1 BBS, there are less rules, you can come and go as you please and if you are hot or a good fucker(not necessarily a good looking one), you can make more than in a KTV. Some gals don't mind getting done 10x a day as long as they make money and I have seen guys finish in less than 15 minutes including the time it takes to walk up to the aparment and have 2 showers.
2 KTVs have lots of rules which you get fined for, many require a sizable deposit to let you start work there and you are limited to number of customers you can do. Some gals will not work there for the simple reason they can't handle the daily drinking.
3 Saunas also have rules, you have a trainee period where you have to work for free and licking someone's arsehole is not natural to anyone but a dog, LOL. Saunas, if anything are usually where older gals end up. The exception to the rule are the FS saunas in Dongguan where there are hotties to be had.

[Meiguoguizi]

It should be an ISG article, not Wiki....! I know a gal who I first had at Seibu 3 years ago and have kept track of from another gal who keeps in touch with her, went from CP KTV, Zhuhai KTV, Macau Hotel, back to Seibu and is back in her home village. And very tired, LOL. You can be the new girl off the bus anywhere in the matter of 2 hours!

Additionally, individual girls may move "up the ladder" from BBS to Sauna to KTV as opportunity presents itself. The primary consideration, of course, is money. The secondary consideration is a location that will minimize the likelihood of bumping into someone from their hometown.
The primary career qualifications are beauty and youth. Unfortunately, as experience increases, so does their age. Chinese mongers seem not as tolerant as lao wai for 'seasoned' professionals in their late 20's. Japanese are notorious for their post-pubescent tastes.
I have several long-term 'friends' in the business who are now 24,25,or 26 years old. Their litany is how bad business is. In reality, they are being chosen less and less because of their age.

[Fourgotten]

My first KTV experience was Mayflower. Picking girls here was a lot of fun. There was a large main hall type room that was filled with a couple hundred girls which had an organized chaos type feel to it.

For my first girl I picked a beautifully skinny girl, just the way I like 'em. She had a nice smile and I got a good vibe from her. I deliberated for a while on the second girl and ended up going with an attractive model class girl.

The model did an excellent job of pretending she wasn't there all night long, but I didn't really care because the first girl was a lot of fun. As it turned out she had studied dance before, and she showed off some of her moves at the end of the night.

She continued to be a lot of fun when I took her back to my place as well. I was concerned about her discomfort so I gave her an extra long warm up period, which she seemed to enjoy, and therefore I enjoyed. Before long she hit a breaking point, she suddenly and skillfully removed my boxers with her toes, and we were down to business.

Multiple positions and a lot of vocalizations, a good time was had by all. Unfortunately I think I wore her out, because in the morning she was too tired for another round.

It's too bad she was adverse to any sort of photography, I'd like to be able to share, she was beautiful. In retrospect I should have repeated before I left CP.

It was the standard KTV 8 for LT.

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[Big Swingin Dave]

In addition to the usual Sauna, BBS, and KTV establishments, there are also Dirty Footie and Oil Massage establishments around CP. Most famous is Jindili across the street from the train station and as I have discovered, there are many more smaller places around town that offer the same services.

Tian Tian Mu Zu (天天沐足） is next to the Tesco （Le Gou 乐购）Shopping Center， I had an oil mssage there for 118RMB 100 minutes which includes a nice reverse (face-down) balls massage and a happy ending. The massage was actually very nice, the place is a little bit run down and it does not have a shower room. I had #81 very good attitude and very skilled hands.

Hao Ting Hotel (豪庭酒店） is across the street from Sanyuan hotel on the same side as the New Century hotel. This place is famous for their Royal Foot Massage (Di Huang Mu Zu - 帝皇沐足）， 78RMB for 100 minutes. They have a regular foot massage for 38RMB for 80 minutes. The fun part was telling the masseus you only want the regular footie and watching them persuading you to do the Di Huang massage. I had #68, tall Sichuan girl with nice B cups, yes touching is allowed. Great fun, great attitude.

Both place is worth a try instead of doing the same old sauna and BBS routines every day.

BSD

[Bob Builder]

Wow. This is really eye opening. The history of the movment of WL across China. This could be an interesting wikipedia article, deserving a few pages! Please share more on your views!

I agreed with the concept of, if one place close, another will pop up. It will not be as big as before, but it will be in a few years. When it is big enough, there will be market factors, or LE cramping it down. Another place will pop up, and take over. I believe CP now is nearing the top tip of the curve, with the opening of so many new hotels and KTV. Let's hope it will not make an exit too soon.

It should be an ISG article, not Wiki....! I know a gal who I first had at Seibu 3 years ago and have kept track of from another gal who keeps in touch with her, went from CP KTV, Zhuhai KTV, Macau Hotel, back to Seibu and is back in her home village. And very tired, LOL. You can be the new girl off the bus anywhere in the matter of 2 hours!

[Bob Builder]

If they moved to some place else, can you tell me where 3000 plus girls move to from Hainan Island ? Also for Sha Tsui, SZ, it had over 3000 plus girls.

There are other areas that are dead too.

What is 3000 girls to the population of of China which is 1.x billion? If you were at the Lo Wu train station last year at Chinese New Year, at least that many left "every day" on a train or bus back to Sichaun, Wunan, etc.