North China - Haerbin

[ThingStick]

These would be spas hidden behind a pink curtain. The rumor is that prices can near 600 rmb.

"Spas"?

Are you talking an actual physically pink curtain, in a regular bath-house? Or are you talking just a door with a pink light (pink shop).

If you're talking about just one-door wham bam pink shops, you should only be paying 200, tops.

Let me know more specific details and I'll go check it out.

[Explorer8939]

Do you mean Guogeli?

Care to shine a light on where these are and what to look for? Despite my exploration, I still have no idea what the hell I'm doing. Ha!

These would be spas hidden behind a pink curtain. The rumor is that prices can near 600 rmb.

[ThingStick]

I had some time to kill, so I walked around the area northeast of Gaogeli Street to see if the spas are still there. They are.

Do you mean Guogeli?

Care to shine a light on where these are and what to look for? Despite my exploration, I still have no idea what the hell I'm doing. Ha!

[Explorer8939]

I had some time to kill, so I walked around the area northeast of Gaogeli Street to see if the spas are still there. They are.

[ThingStick]

Yes indeed link is now working. Thanks for posting it.

Sure. Keep in mind, I dug through about 30 pages of these and posted my best experiences.

Report back if you find any new info!

[Bad Boy Billy]

Works for me, including at this moment. Also, there are many forums like this for Harbin, but: They all contain the same information.

Yes indeed link is now working. Thanks for posting it.

[ThingStick]

Link doesn't work for me?

Works for me, including at this moment. Also, there are many forums like this for Harbin, but: They all contain the same information.

Another update: "Moonlight Bay" (Tongda Jie) manager was there one night when I came in. I guess he had never seen me. After twelve visits, he proceeded to tell the staff that my price is now 700 RMB, for what was once 400. I argued with him for a bit, as he stared blank-faced.

I told him to fuck off, and left.

Will not return.

Do not support these assholes.

Guess it's back to the pink shop hunting, for me.

[Bad Boy Billy]

Dig in: http://www.ypw2016.com/forum-202-1.html.

Link doesn't work for me?

[Explorer8939]

However, I did find something really interesting in my digging through Chinese sites. Even my local helper couldn't believe I found it. It seems like the ISG of China. I am sure there's other forums for China but my Chinese is crap. The forum doesn't seem to be accepting registrations at this time. Seems point based?

However, a *ton* of killer info here even with bas translations. Per my helper: FJ = HJ. KJ = Mouth work.

Dig in: http://www.ypw2016.com/forum-202-1.html.

Big thanks!

[ThingStick]

A quick update:

I have found a couple new "set" shops, but honestly, they won't take anything less than 600 (locals start at 300). With the quality of the below, I really don't think you should support those places and their "laowai taxes. " Shitheads like "Golden Ocean" and the like. Fuck 'them. They don't need our business and we don't need them, when you can get truly good service with a smile at the spots below.

I've made countless trips back and forth to "Moonlight Bay" (Tongda Jie) and Heishan Street.

Moonlight Bay starts at 400. It includes a quick nuru style lotion body slide. Rimming. Water suction. It's fucking awesome, and it seems the higher priced tiers are mostly just more time. Stick with 400. It's killer. Numbers 36 and 17 are the best I've found thus far. Everyone tries to have a good attitude, really. A great service, and the most recommended place I've found thus far.

I've gotten a few more of the shops surrounding Heishan Jie to open up to me. I think you just have to rock up 10+ times to make them really truly know you are no tourist. 200 RMB FS. Some will do +CIM for an extra 100 RMB. Some still to this day want 500 RMB for a BBBJCIM, but I've taken regular FS for 200 from those girls. It's a good time.

I've made some interesting Weixi relationships with a few of the Heishan St. Girls. Now I can just message them when I'm on my way, confirm they're there. Etc.

In the end, Hieshan Jie is a quick pump and dump place. Apparently it's very safe, as it's been around for years and years, and being so brazen, they're obviously paying their "bills. " I no longer worry about any troubles.

Getting real interesting.

There are pink shops ALL OVER this damn city. One new area I found near me. Will continue reporting.

[ThingStick]

Wow. ThingStick, you're highhandedly keeping this board alive. I am not in Harbin and don't even know if I'll ever make it there, but kudos.

Ha. Thanks. I've come a long way in a few months, I'll say that!

There are pink shops and saunas with services everywhere in this city, and honestly, I think it's that way in every Chinese city. Has to be. You just have to walk around the neighborhoods.

Doesn't help the weekend warrior much, but what can you do.

Cheers.

[FictionalSpace]

Wow. ThingStick, you're highhandedly keeping this board alive. I am not in Harbin and don't even know if I'll ever make it there, but kudos.

[ThingStick]

Hey,

Found a great new spot, nice management, super helpful attendant boy.

Forget "Golden Ocean" in the previous post. The manager is not professional. Sure, the girls are gorgeous, but it's my opinion that anyone who double an already expensive price "on moral ground" for foreigners is not to be patronized by us. Obviously. Am I wrong? There are dozens of others who have service with a smile. Like below.

Working my way through the list below. I have also found a few other "Chinese ISG forums" and am working my way through the info. This town is busy, you just need the right line of info.

Anyway. So, I headed off to a long-running place.

哈23572;28392;26376;20809;28286;27927;28020;.

通36798;34903;19982;27665;23433;36335;36335;21475;.

"Harbin Moonlight Bay Bath.

Tongda Street and Civil Aid Service Road intersection".

All the taxi's know it.

This was the first time I have ever had service with a smile in a bath house. Front staff nice. I really think you all need to be aware of the "nice" way to say things. My Chinese is bad but I'm learning.

I have found a blind entry works best if you play it this way.

Walk in. Sit down. If they do not bring you shoes right away, and come up to say things you do not know. Ask for a shower (28107;28020 - Lin You - *plus* service (26381;21153 - Fu Wu - . That usually does the trick. You can add "Anmo" with finger quotes to drive the point home. Start by throwing out 300 or 400, which seems to be the standard.

Anyway, I roll up and do this. Shoes are brought. The manager writes something down and leads me away from the desk, shows it to me. Says "Fu Wu yadda yadda yadda" - obviously security is okay here. The paper says a bunch of things, and "400". I agree.

I'm led to the shower. I take one, and a super happy young attendant dude greets me. I take out my phone. He says "no phones" which is a common response, but what is also common, is when I translate "I only want to use this for translation, I do not want any communication problems" - they always agree.

The attendant and I chat off and on. Note: You pay first here, which I was uncomfortable with, but he insisted, so I did. It was fine. 400 total for clothes, shower, service.

I am led down through a hilarious maze of locked doors, to the main room. There's music playing and moaning. I wait 15 minutes, and 4 girls are brought to me. Most are cute, and I pick the cutest.

The rooms are as good as that stupid "Golden Ocean" place. Decent bed and trimmings. Girl gets naked, super hot, and does a round of cool stuff with her tongue. Really nice.

400 RMB gets you 45 minutes of play to do as you wish. There are 600 and 800 levels leading up to an hour. I'll eventually try it.

So, there you go.

I have about 4 or 5 other solid, full information spots I will try in the next few weeks.

Now, I want to let you in on something my Chinese helper has let me know. I don't think you guys should be asking for "Xiao Jie's" as supposedly it's a rude way of saying "a girl who's main interest is sex work".

Here is a list of very "nice" ways to do all of this shit. Note, this is Dongbei so it may vary by province:

淋28020;.

Shower.

Lin You.

有26381;21153;21527;.

You fu wu ma?

Do you offer services.

服21153;.

Service.

Fu Wu.

-or- 保20581; (Bao Jian).

和.

(and).

He (huuuh)".

加.

Plus.

Jia.

Duo Shao Qian? (How much).

洗28020; XI YU (bath house).

平27963; - Ping Huo (only sex).

口27963; - Kuo Huo (BJ) "kow hwuh".

口29190; - Kou Bao (CIM).

全22871; - Quan Tao (full set) (Chen).

套 - Tao (Condom).

能36873;21527; - Neng Xuan Ma (choose).

"Neng Shen Ma".

能25442;19968;20010;21527; (can I switch?

"Neng Huan Yi Ge Ma".

还26377;21527; - Hai You Ma (any more?

Alright. Enjoy, and report.

Cheers

[ThingStick]

Getting serious now. Crazy night. Heading out of town for a bit for business, but this is a dense, huge update. Here we go:

I went out with my local helper. Chinese guy. Young. Nice. We were armed with information from the "Chinese ISG" linked below.

Our first stop was the one listed below ("We were accepted here. ") 4 girls, 3 were a bit old and average for me. One girl was cute, but we decided to try another spot first.

Now, here's where it gets interesting.

We headed to a well-known spot called "Golden Ocean". *Advisory, please read this whole section before going.

Name: 哈23572;28392;24066;36947;22806;21306;22825;19968;27927;28020;.

Address / intersection: 【35814;32454;22320;22336;12305;65306;27721;24191;34903;19982;27721;31077;34903;20132;21449;21475; (can't miss it, big red banner on the window / sign with 300 massage listed).

I *THOUGHT* I had finally found my go-to, my diamond. My friend isn't too into baths, so we just took a shower. The front desk accepted me seemingly hesitantly, and I guess said "you two better share room".

They are worried about communication issues. My size was supposedly not an issue.

Now, from what my friend said, there are two levels of service. 300 is a full round of all sorts of services. 600 (598) you can CIM and is 90 minutes. We both opted for 600 (598).

We were led upstairs. Shown a lineup of 6 cute girls. I chose a medium build, good face, good body. We went upstairs, passed a few rooms, and our girls arrived.

My girl, again, said she's worried about communication issues, as this is a set / round of services with different position, etc. They wanted my friend and I in the same room.

I kept my cool and basically said for him to translate "Don't worry about it, you can motion, it will be fine". Finally, she accepted.

These rooms are the nicest I've been in. Services begin, and she runs a gamut of things I have never experienced. Water suction everywhere on my body. Wrapping my feet and licking them. Plastic wrap on my behind, licking. BBBJ, switching between FS 3-4 times.

Eventually, I CIM. I am sure this is just normal sauna stuff for some, but I had never gotten any of this service, and it kind of blew me away. I got her phone number, and she asked I put I keep it hidden. She has yet to add me on Weixi, but I hope she does.

Now, *Important*, we finished and headed downstairs. I translated a thank you message to the front desk staff, and told them I would be back, as I wanted to see what the 300 level service was all about. I have been getting decent service for 200-300 at Heishan Jie, but this is the opposite environment, truly comfortable.

The manager comes out, and supposedly says loudly "I was not here when you first came. If or when this foreigner comes back he will be charged 1,000 for any services. These are my principles. I once turned away Japanese men who offered me 3,000. Blah blah blah."

My friend seemed upset, and they exchanged words. I guess, the manager is just a huge racist jerk. I am hoping the girl adds me on Weixi, so I can ask her directly if I could come back, BUT. At this point, I am advising you to not patronize this place Partly due to you will probably get charged more, mostly due to this manager's business practices obviously being bad.

I know "this is China" and all, and people do as they please, it's a different world, BUT. Nobody else in the shop had any issue, and there were no problem. I think this manager is just on a power trip, and I don't like that. If he's a jerk to good customers, it may be dangerous to go back due to his hot headedness?

- Anyway. Here is what I now know as semi-fact for Harbin:

- Mouth services (shooting or sometimes even just sucking) are considered extra and on average will run you 100 RMB. Funny to me, but this is China.

- Normal local prices for a good FS round of craziness in bath-houses in Harbin is 300 - 600.

- There are hundreds of Bath Houses here. Purple or Pink lights on the outside are a good bet. But. Load up Apple Map (not Google) and search "massage" or click the "Baths" button. There are dozens on each street!

Continuing on to an important, long piece:

I have spent way too much time, digging through the first 3 pages of this "Chinese ISG". This is some sort of point based message board, and many posts have private info for members only.

I have compiled a list of the all the places I found good intel on. These posts start with Info on the shop, and then reviews are below.

Section 1 (Full addresses, name of the shops, pricing.

Section 2 (A work in progress. Sometimes shops name, sometimes intersections. Anyone here long term who can assist, do so!

Okay, here we go:

Section 1 :

Full addresses + Shop names. (This is to page 4) :

1.) http://www.ypw2016.com/thread-24459-1-1.html

Accepted here 198/298 for shoot mouth.

Shop name:

圣32418;32536;27927;28020;.

Address:

【35814;32454;22320;22336;12305;65306;.

清28392;36335;33.

Qing Rd 33.

Price: 198/298.

2.) http://www.ypw2016.com/thread-24729-1-1.html

Full address – Small place?

Shop Name (哈23572;28392;36947;37324;21306;32463;32428;3道34903;32454;38632;38889;24335;26494;39592;.

Jingwei Harbin hang District 3 Street drizzle Korean pine bone.

Address:

【35814;32454;22320;22336;12305;65306;.

哈23572;28392;36947;37324;21306;32463;32428;3道34903;.

Price: 68.

3.) http://www.ypw2016.com/thread-24445-1-1.html

Full address.

Shop name (圣27700;32536;18.

Holy water edge 18.

Address:

【35814;32454;22320;22336;12305;65306;.

铁36335;34903;263*.

Price:

168/298 / 588/898 +.

4.) http://www.ypw2016.com/thread-24489-1-2.html

Full address.

Shop name (哈23572;28392;36947;22806;32418;23159;27927;28020;.

Harbin Road outside Hung Ting Bath.

Address:

【35814;32454;22320;22336;12305;65306;.

盛32418;32536;27927;28020;21704;23572;28392;24066;36947;22806;21306;32418;26071;22823;34903;997号**.

Price: 198/298.

5.) http://www.ypw2016.com/thread-24642-1-2.html

Full address / name.

Shop name:

哈23572;28392;24066;30410;36275;22616;28020;39302;21452;39134;29245;35760;.

Harbin Yi Tong foot bath shop Flying cool mind.

Address:

【35814;32454;22320;22336;12305;65306;.

抚39034;34903;58号**.

Price: 166/218/268/318.

6.) http://www.ypw2016.com/thread-24838-1-2.html

Full address / name / Russians?

Address:

【35814;32454;22320;22336;12305;65306;.

丽27700;20113;22825;27927;28020;21704;23572;28392;24066;36947;37324;21306;27665;23433;34903; 8 号.

Lishui Skylight Bath Street Daoli District No. 8 People.

Price: 398 (Chinese) / 1200 (Russian).

7.) http://www.ypw2016.com/thread-23671-1-3.html

Full address / name / expensive?

Name:

天40857;27849;27927;28020;.

Address:

【35814;32454;22320;22336;12305;65306;.

抚39034;34903;223天40857;27849;27927;28020;.

Price: 200 - 800.

8.) http://www.ypw2016.com/thread-24107-1-3.html

Full address / cheap / maybe old ladies?

Shop name:

哈23572;28392;24066;36947;22806;21306;22825;19968;27927;28020;.

Harbin, the market area Tianyi Bath.

Address:

【35814;32454;22320;22336;12305;65306;.

哈23572;28392;24066;36947;22806;21306;21335;21195;34903;100号22825;19968;27927;28020;*.

Price: 198.

9.) http://www.ypw2016.com/thread-24125-1-3.html

Full address / English speakers?

Address:

【35814;32454;22320;22336;12305;65306;.

南23703;27721;24191;34903;148号.

Price: 88/128.

Section 2 : Has shop name and intersections. No full address, but worth checking:

http://www.ypw2016.com/thread-24170-1-1.html

Name and location. Does not have full address. Try with a taxi?

http://www.ypw2016.com/thread-23844-1-1.html

Name and location. Does not have full address. Try with a taxi?

http://www.ypw2016.com/thread-90036-1-1.html

Vague QQ information. Ask your friend.

http://www.ypw2016.com/thread-24296-1-2.html

Has shop name. Try with a taxi?

http://www.ypw2016.com/thread-24577-1-2.html

Has shop name. Try with a taxi?

http://www.ypw2016.com/thread-23759-1-2.html

Has shop name and intersection. Try with a taxi?

http://www.ypw2016.com/thread-24419-1-2.html

Has shop name, intersections, and pricing. Try with a taxi?

http://www.ypw2016.com/thread-24839-1-2.html

Has shop name, intersections. Seems interesting. Try with a taxi?

http://www.ypw2016.com/thread-24380-1-2.html

Has shop name, intersections. Seems good. Try with a taxi?

http://www.ypw2016.com/thread-24677-1-2.html

Has shop name, intersections. All russian girls? Try with a taxi?

http://www.ypw2016.com/thread-23895-1-2.html

Has shop name, directions. Try with a taxi?

http://www.ypw2016.com/thread-23840-1-3.html

Has shop name. Changchun shop? Vague directions. Try with a taxi?

http://www.ypw2016.com/thread-23681-1-3.html

Has shop name. Vague address. Try with a taxi?

http://www.ypw2016.com/thread-23574-1-3.html

Strange information.

http://www.ypw2016.com/thread-24485-1-3.html

Has shop name. Cheap? Try with a taxi?

So that's that.

Alright. Go nuts.

[ThingStick]

Another good bit for you:

I've been to Heishan Jie in the post below about 5-6 times since reporting. Slowly have gotten other shops to accept me. 200 for FS. 300 for BBBJCIM for that middle shop and one around the corner. Most other shops won't take me, but probably would if you could haggle 'them in Chinese. We're "too big" is the response, though one eventually did take me and it was fine. The other shops WILL do BBBJCIM for 500, which I haven't taken them up on.

However, I did find something really interesting in my digging through Chinese sites. Even my local helper couldn't believe I found it. It seems like the ISG of China. I am sure there's other forums for China but my Chinese is crap. The forum doesn't seem to be accepting registrations at this time. Seems point based?

However, a *ton* of killer info here even with bas translations. Per my helper: FJ = HJ. KJ = Mouth work.

Dig in: http://www.ypw2016.com/forum-202-1.html.