Living in Peru

[Screwed Up]

Screwedup, It is guys like you who are driving up prices for us gringos and ruining the market! Only take girls to the movies on Monday nights when it is 2x1, That way we can keep prices for a TLN with a non-pro hottie under $3.00.
You also could have saved a sole by taking a combi, but at least she did not jack you up for popcorn like some of the girls do.

Anyway glad to hear you are back!

LB

You´re absolutely right ;-) lol
So I had another date Sunday with a big titted girl non-pro I met in 443 on Thursday and met again on Saturday.
I was thirsty so we went for a orange juice, 5 sol each. We talked a lil but she doesn´t seem to be a big talker. She said what about movies, so I said cool, but I left my glasses at my place.
I checked online and the movie we wanted to see didn´t start untill 2 hrs later, so we talk, I show some travel pictures. I start kissing her, but she turns away a lil bit. I´m like fuck. Thinking she isn´t into me that much, that´s why she doesn´t talk much.
BUT we end up kissing, she seems to get hornier by the minute. Then stops and says she should go before she does something she will regret. I´m like you don´t want to go to the movies anymore? She´s it´s ok.
We kiss some more, I start pushing down her skirt, manage to lick her tits, more titty licking. Then all of a sudden she gets up, takes of her top and bra. THERE YOU GO! I guess we both know what´s up next.
Good sex, ok BJ. She left an hour later, was too tired for movies.
Total chica cost: 5 soles
Are you happy now, LB? Haahahaaa
The next day we went to the movies, it was a Monday 2x1. She was about to have her period so she didn´t really want to fuck at first, but as I wanted to go for titty fucking with CIM, I guess she changed her mind. Another great long session this time making more use of the mirror I have and some titty fucking.
It turned out she wasn´t into me that much at first as I was making out completely drunk with a blonde friend of her friend in 443 on Friday. I forgot my cell phone on the bar counter. Called my cell the next day and the blonde chick picked up and said she would return it to me that night in the club, which she did. I didn´t even remember anything from that Friday.

Although not as dirty as I´m used to from you, I liked that Combi pick-up story. A hot chick arguing with somebody for your 0.30 soles. Love it.

About Tequila, I haven´t been there for over a week now, which for me is amazing. I don´t pay entrance anymore. The last few times I was there I saw too few new faces. And normally it has at least some non-pro´s, but now all were on the job. My hang-out buddy´s don´t really like the place that much anymore, so that´s another reason to go less. But I always love to go there drinking with a fellow monger watching the hoes.
It´s true, it´s hit or miss.

[John Sperm]

Times that I been in Lima the highest I've paid for Puss has been 140 soles for a nice ...17... year old girl from a sauna hour and a half, been to Eclipse and peppers and those girls do not appeal to me... too fake emotions.. at least if I am with a ***** I would like the girl to at least show some emotion...

[Lima Busy]

The truth of the matter is that, in general, tourists are not very nice people. They are not really interested in long-term friendships and think they can treat people poorly and then skip town. Ugly gringos tend to make the locals think that all gringos are "uneducated" SOBs.

The worst is when they inflate prices by overpaying the local talent, thus making it more costly to the ex-pats that are the primary board contributors and often living on a tight budget. To give you an example, I met the most incredible chica of my life, but another gringo got to her first and paid her 10 times the normal going rate. Consequently, she expected the inflated amount from all gringos. She was just incredible - my life long dream! Unfortunately, she expected too much cash and gave poor service due to contamination by a gringo tourist.

In a nutshell, the contributors of this board are often hurting themselves by kindly helping non-contributors who only do damage, complain and inflate prices. How ironic!

Gringo, I am going to have to disagree with you in regard to the expat pricing issue.
First of all most of the expats living here are fairly affluent and can easily afford the top price $100.00 if they chose too pay it. Secondly, Expats as a group rarely take part in P4P, although some will grab a pro from tequilas to live with them for a month or two when in between girlfriends. Although all my friends have been to Tequilas, none have been to a Banos Turco, Troc or cucaradas. Also they have never been to Eclispe,peppers,madonna,emanualle or the dozens of other nightclubs.

For the most part in the old day's (last 2 years)All one had to do was wait in one of the "Gringo bars" or around the park and they came to you. Those day's have changed and the action in Miraflores has changed as well.

For awhile all the early semi-pro, non-pro action moved into the "Flying Dog" and up until recently it was the place for guy's in the know. Recently it has become big with the gay crowd.

One constant in Miraflores nightlife has and always will be David's favorite hangout "Tequila's". I also beg to differ with him on the pricing situation there.

It is well known that the going rate is $60.00. It is also known that the price for regulars "guy's with VIP cards" is $40.00. Be that as it may, I have had at least 6 guy's staying in my apartment in the last few months from NYC who have all insisted on paying $100.00 for TLN even after I coached them on prices.

Most of you have met my buddy Ian at one time or another. He is a 55 y/o 5ft tall international monger currently residing in Lima. For the past few months he has been dating a 6ft PNP officer. He dumped her a few days ago and is currently in a dry spell. Last night he went to Tequila's at about 12pm and pulled out a beautiful 23 y/o semi pro. Because he has a nice pad she stayed until 12 this morning for the whopping sum of 50 soles ($15). While I am not suggesting that others can duplicate this, It has a unwarranted reputation for being overpriced and will always be one of Lima's great fall back options.

LB

[Gringo Loco #2]

The truth of the matter is that, in general, tourists are not very nice people. They are not really interested in long-term friendships and think they can treat people poorly and then skip town. Ugly gringos tend to make the locals think that all gringos are "uneducated" SOBs.

The worst is when they inflate prices by overpaying the local talent, thus making it more costly to the ex-pats that are the primary board contributors and often living on a tight budget. To give you an example, I met the most incredible chica of my life, but another gringo got to her first and paid her 10 times the normal going rate. Consequently, she expected the inflated amount from all gringos. She was just incredible - my life long dream! Unfortunately, she expected too much cash and gave poor service due to contamination by a gringo tourist.

In a nutshell, the contributors of this board are often hurting themselves by kindly helping non-contributors who only do damage, complain and inflate prices. How ironic!

[NJ Dude II]

8 beers ....... 24 soles
4 margaritas ...... 32 soles
1 pisco sour ...... 8 soles

Taking her home after she
drank all of the above ........... priceless

Cab .... 3 sol
Movies ... 15 sol
Took her to the movies than to my place, fucking, BBJTC, CIM ... priceless!

Sorry, just couldn't resist....

Flyingace

[Lima Busy]

I have seen various attempts on these boards to profile the average monger either by age or socioeconomic status. I for one always thought most were in there 50’s like me. This belief came out of the fact that I never paid for sex directly until I was well into my forties. I like many others used to look down on people who p4p and more so, on those who traveled solely for the hobby.

The reality is most guys’s that I have met either thru my penthouse or that I have met thru the boards are quite different. Some are married (like me), a lot divorced and others who have never considered a monogamous life style. I have come to realize that guys even p4p out of preference as opposed to necessity.

I have hung out with guy’s as young as 22 and as old as 64. I used to try to keep up with or compete directly with guy’s like Screwed up (who I have great respect for) but have come to realize that I have passed my prime and would rather go to bed than chase tail until 8 in the morning.

Don’t get me wrong I still love the chase; I am just not that interested in the prize. I find that 90% of the women can not hold a candle to my wife and I would never want to lose her. My wife knows my past, reads the forum with me and has met a lot of you in person.

Recently, I have been into accompanying mongers to various venues and instead of actively participating, I have had a great time just chatting up new and old chica’s.

Several days a week I have been leaving the car in the garage and traveling to work by Combi. I find I meet a lot of girls this way and at times I have ended up far from my intended destination as I change Combi’s when I see a particularly hot chica waiting on the corner.

It is obviously one of the great advantages of living or spending time in Peru. I now regret that I encapsulated myself in Miraflores for the past 2 years.

To give you an example: This past Tuesday I was traveling from Callao to Miraflores. I caught a Combi in front of the house and traveled a few miles but there was nothing of interest on my combi or on the street. This was probably a factor of time as I was traveling about 12 in the afternoon. I ended up jumping off in San Miguel and grabbing a different one. As I boarded there was a seat next to a 23 y/o hottie which I grabbed pretending not to notice her. A few minutes later the conductor came by and I gave him S/.2 for an S/.1.20 fare. He gave me 50 centimos change and I was not going to argue over the other 9 cents.

Well the hottie whose name was Andrea saw all this and told me I had gotten screwed. I told her it was ok, but she insisted on getting me the correct change. After pointing it out to the conductor he proceeded to give me my correct change. This naturally led to a conversation whereby I learned her name, age and place of employment (later corrected).
When we arrived in Miraflores we were having such a good time I did not want it to end.

I invited her for coffee and a doughnut at dunkin doughnuts and she readily accepted. While there she asked me why I lived in Callao and had an apartment in Miraflores. I explained my story, marital status and showed her pictures of my kids. I asked her if she had time and wanted to see the penthouse. She agreed and we walked over. Upon seeing the place she was impressed and started the touching thing. I did not resist as I was obviously flattered. During this she confided that she did not work at a telemarketing firm but at a BT here in Miraflores. She offered to give me a massage which immediately triggered an argument between the two midgets on my shoulders. I told her I would take her up on it in the future but had a meeting I was late for. We parted way’s down on the street and I basked in the warm afterglow of my conscience.

For most of you guy’s this is a pretty lame story, for me one or two similar encounters a week is all I need and I can spend my hard earned cash on good food and whiskey!

LB

[FlyingAce]

Well, I've been in town for a few weeks, today leave for Tarapoto and Tres Unidos with the family for a week or two (little mongering activity if the opportunity arises). Then off to the US for a month or two (Florida).

Flyingace

[Lima Busy]

cab .... 3 sol
movies ... 15 sol
took her to the movies than to my place, fucking, bbjtc, cim ... priceless!

sorry, just couldn't resist....

flyingace

flyingace, heard you were back! you guys did some serious jd damage down at cafe z . i meant to post a report about the "madonna" club but got busy. anyway the joint looks good, no cover but they banged me pretty good for drinks when i moved from the bar into that glassed in room. i had a hour to kill before i met up with the wife. i was there less then 30 sec. when i met *****, a beautiful face/great personality and a killer little body. the time flew by and i am embarassed to tell the board what i spent for a couple of feel's, a kiss and a peek at that fine shaved little box but i had a great time and it cost less than the casino. i also have to add that the wife was particularly pleased with the mojo that night. i hope all is well!

lb

[FlyingAce]

Cab .... 3 sol
Movies ... 15 sol
Took her to the movies than to my place, fucking, BBJTC, CIM ... priceless!

Sorry, just couldn't resist....

Flyingace

[Lima Busy]

Took her to the movies than to my place, fucking, BBJTC, CIM.
Total cost? Cab 3 sol, movies 15 sol.
She wanted to leave at 3am to go home, but was so tired she ended up staying untill 7am. Had to work at 9.

Screwedup, It is guys like you who are driving up prices for us gringos and ruining the market! Only take girls to the movies on Monday nights when it is 2x1, That way we can keep prices for a TLN with a non-pro hottie under $3.00.
You also could have saved a sole by taking a combi, but at least she did not jack you up for popcorn like some of the girls do.

Anyway glad to hear you are back!

LB

[Screwed Up]

I went to Etheria Wednesday. Packing as usual. Actually this time there were more women than men as opposed to last time I went there in Febrary.
Lots of hotties, and most of them in groups without men (take that Colombia).
Ended up dancing with this tiny girl. She wasn´t as hot as some other chicks I was checking, but the character made up for it. She also has her own business. Yesterday I found out she was 4 yrs older than me (29). Took her to the movies than to my place, fucking, BBJTC, CIM.
Total cost? Cab 3 sol, movies 15 sol.
She wanted to leave at 3am to go home, but was so tired she ended up staying untill 7am. Had to work at 9.

[Gringo Loco #2]

What ever happened to "Make Love Not War?"

After all, this is the International Sex Guide.

[Adelante Siempre]

Maltrufio, Come on down the waters fine!

Both candidates would make things worse. Mr. Humala is no fan of democracy and wants to hold a constituent assembly to rewrite Peru's Constitution. He was an army captain in command of a military base during Peru's war with the Shining Path guerrillas. There is credible testimony from several families in his zone that men directly under his command tortured and killed peasants, and that he participated in terrorizing and ransacking the business of a storeowner who demanded payment from his soldiers. Many of his closest aides have ties to Vladimiro Montesinos, a jailed racketeer.

All this is widely known in Peru, yet a large chunk of voters are unbothered. There could be no clearer warning than this of the importance of economic development that includes the poor.

There is an army base in Peru where you can see from the road the giant sign "La Guerra Es Man~ana". This maybe a slogan for preparedness, but under a nationalist leader like Humala, I would say that Ecuador with its oilfields and border disputes with Peru has more to worry about this election.

Realistically, Peruvians have Fujimori to thank for eliminating the Shining Path menace across the country side. The maoist Shining Path was just as ruthless with the peasants if they refused to cooperate. According to some numbers I have seen in the papers there, some 60,000 peasants were killed by the security forces under Garcia and Fujimori. These peasants were appearently aiding the Shining Path in some manner. The fact is that both sides were ruthless in their methods.

The economic progress under Toledo would hardly have been possible without clearing the countryside of the guerillas. In fact, Toledo has gotten soft on the Shining Path and as a result the Shining Path is making a comeback in some areas of Peru.

One may argue that the bitterness of the fight may be the outgrowth of chronic social injustice in the country. This maybe, but whoever is going to be the president of Peru, they are going to have to come down hard on the Shining Path and still be credible to the majority of the people in Peru to reform the system; someone whom both the Shining Path, and the politicos fear. I wouldn't give up on Humala yet.

Democracy is a system of government for equals. It is naive to think that democracy can thrive until more people see some benefit from that system.

[Lima Busy]

Just checking on the political climate and how Peruvians in general feel about the recent events in Bolivia. Polls that I have access to here in the states show Garcia slightly ahead of Humala, but I'm afraid of all the Che t-shirt wearing dumb-fucks in Bolivia stirring up nationalistic rhetoric.

Maltrufio, Come on down the waters fine!
I did read this article today in the NYT's and thought it was interesting.

The revolt of Latin American voters against the political class began in Peru in 1990, with the election of an obscure agronomy professor named Alberto Fujimori. The anti-establishment mood has spread, leading to populist soldiers and a coca grower taking the presidencies of Venezuela, Ecuador and Bolivia. Now Peru may elect the most dangerous leader yet. Last month Ollanta Humala, a military man whose family advocates the shooting of gays, Jews and Chilean investors, came in first in presidential elections. Since Mr. Humala did not get 50 percent, there will be a runoff on May 28.

More bad news: the other candidate will be Alan García, a spectacularly irresponsible and corrupt president in the late 1980's who wrecked Peru's economy and presided over the commission of widespread war crimes. This sorry duo topped a field that included several excellent candidates.

The roots of the appalling choice facing Peruvians are evident. As in Venezuela, traditional politicians in Peru have failed to improve the lives of the majority, especially indigenous people. The current president, Alejandro Toledo, has presided over five years of peace, lowered corruption and sustained the strongest economic growth in Latin America. Yet his approval rating is in the single digits. Mr. Toledo squandered the opportunity seized by countries like Chile and Mexico to spread the benefits of growth through targeted education, health or rural development programs.

Both candidates would make things worse. Mr. Humala is no fan of democracy and wants to hold a constituent assembly to rewrite Peru's Constitution. He was an army captain in command of a military base during Peru's war with the Shining Path guerrillas. There is credible testimony from several families in his zone that men directly under his command tortured and killed peasants, and that he participated in terrorizing and ransacking the business of a storeowner who demanded payment from his soldiers. Many of his closest aides have ties to Vladimiro Montesinos, a jailed racketeer.

All this is widely known in Peru, yet a large chunk of voters are unbothered. There could be no clearer warning than this of the importance of economic development that includes the poor.

[Maltrufio]

Just checking on the political climate and how Peruvians in general feel about the recent events in Bolivia. Polls that I have access to here in the states show Garcia slightly ahead of Humala, but I'm afraid of all the Che t-shirt wearing dumb-fucks in Bolivia stirring up nationalistic rhetoric.