Living in Peru

[Duesy45]

Can any of the members living in Lima tell me what visas are available for ex-pats? I know that you can get a tourist visa. What kind of visa can you obtain that will be good for a longer period of time? Also, how difficult is it to obtain?

For example, in Mexico you can get a FM3 which is good for a year and can be renewed annually.

Some countries offer an 'investors visa' where you deposit an amount of money in the bank of that country and you get a visa that is good for an extended period of time.

I plan on moving to Lima but do not want to have to leave the country every 90 days or so just to get a new visa.

Thank for any information.

[Lima Busy]

Chicago Boy,

You probably won't be able to find a apartment rental down here for two weeks, It just is not worth the hassle. Plenty of hotel rooms in the $40-$50 a night range. Do not reccomend the Colon 500 though as it is next too my house and I prefer not to have to see other gringos(ja Ja) they just built a botique hotel (the NIDO)on block 3 of calle porta that I think is going to be happening. there is another one on porta that is 55 soles a night. My friend has been there for a month and it is quiet but close to all the action.

Good Luck!

LimaBusy

[ChicagoBoy23]

Been staying at JW Marriott but very pricey

Looking for nice apartment in Miraflores for last 2 weeks of April. Appreciate any advice. Thanks in advance.

[Lima Busy]

Since Miss Peru won the Miss World contest a lot more European mongers have been coming to town.

During the past six months most of us ex-pats have been meeting down at Café Z every day at 11am.
This was due to the friendly girls that worked there as well as its proximity to Britanico the school I mentioned in an earlier post.

Now that summer is here the school has filled up with young kids and is no longer a fertile hunting ground for the normal chicas.

For high class women watching the best place is still weekdays from 12-2 at Café San Antonio over on Ave Reducto.

Do not bother going there at night as it is all couples and families. If you have a date it is a great cheap place to eat with gourmet sandwiches for about 9 soles and great desserts.

A few of us are in school to learn Spanish here. We did four months at El Sol, but aside from the Korean chic’s it was slim on mongering opportunities.

Once summer ends we are planning on enrolling in IAPNA over on Ave. Arequippa. If you have seen the campus than you can understand the potential. While we study Spanish there are literally hundreds of girls studying English.

I am thinking about talking to the owner about a café z over there.

Last night we went down to check out the scene at Phuket. It was great a few weeks ago before the tsunami, I was curious if people were still going there. Well it turned out to be great again. Basically the scene is happening from 12-3. There were 3 girls to every guy as is customary here. Also we were the only three gringos in the whole place. If you’re not familiar it is definitely a 30-40s BMW crowd.

Café Zuka in Larco Mar is a great place to have a drink with a chica. It is a series of cubicles with good music and is best described as an Asian martini bar.

Without a doubt the daytime non-pro street action around Miraflores continues to provide the most bang for the buck.

The model types are usually walking down Larco from the Ovalo to about Benavides or on the other side of the diagonal from Café Hati to Café Z.

If you’re here full time or as a tourist they have a great price fixed lunch at a little place on Calle Porta.
I have to get the # but they give you soup or salad an entrée (go for the Pollo) and a resfresco for 6 soles.

Do not know if you saw my report in the Callao section but I had my car ripped off again. This time right in front of my house in Miraflores at about 8pm. I had been at the old pub with some of the guys for happy hour, I stopped at the house to take a leak and pick up my date for dinner down at Vivaldinos and in 10 minutes they snagged my front grill, headlights and radiator.

I wish these guys would just knock at the door and ask me for $200 instead of making me spend $600 and running around town. Ohh well.

The only reason I had the car out was because 5 days before my buddy was attacked at a park in Barranco by a dog and had one of his leg tendons ripped apart.

If you have an accident down here you have to pay at the emergency room before they give you treatment.

I got a health insurance policy at Clinica Good Hope on Malecon Balta. I have a family policy even though I am not married for $30 a month. Gotta love this country!

Lima Busy

[Lima Busy]

Increasingly Americans are leaving the USA to explore living in other countries. For years westerners have been going to Mexico and easterners Costa Rica. My own journey was to have been to Costa Rica, fate and the internet led me happily to Peru.

I have been living here for six months now and I am certainly a neophyte. When I first arrived in Miraflores, I was far from impressed. Having spent my entire life in N.Y.C. I had a different view of luxury.

Now when I travel around the country I have gained a true appreciation for what is truly a lovely area.

As most of you who have traveled here have learned the women here range from the ordinary to the truly exotic. The one thing I have learned is that with approximately 3 million women who all seem to be in their twenties, falling in love is an everyday occurrence.

I have met many Americans who have recently moved here. We call Peru the “The land of Sevens”. The reason there are not many nines and tens is “no makeup”. That’s right! The girls here for the most part do not where makeup and are still amazing. The other thing you notice is wet hair everywhere. Can you picture a girl in a fancy restaurant in N.Y.C. with no makeup and wet hair, NOT!

Women here are far more in touch with their natural sensuality and have no need for artificial enhancements, If a women here is interested you will know it with a glance.

But enough about the women! We all come for the women and stay for the food!

That is not entirely true, In time I am learning Peru has appeal on a multitude of levels.

OK, back to living in Peru.

Work- there is none! Lima has the most Taxista’s with doctorate degrees in the world. You must have an income stream from the U.S.A. or great entrepreneurial skills.

As my business as well as my friends is conducted entirely over the internet “Working from home” has taken on new meaning”.

Communication- With a Vonage phone, wi-fi internet and a Nextel cellphone, I can be working on my balcony overlooking the Pacific Ocean and my clients think I am in the office in N.Y.C, Chicago or Timbuktu.

Cost of Living- There is none! Sorry just joking. Compared to N.Y.C. it is about a 1/3 Yup! 30%

Here are a few examples Lima N.Y.C
Haircut 12 soles/ $3.65
Shoeshine 3 soles .91
Cigarettes 5 soles $1.52
Filet Mignon $4.25/lb
12 Bananas 1.5 soles .45
Hand Car wash 4- 5soles $ 1.75
Oceanfront apartment Rent .62/sq ft- Buy $100/sq ft new construction
Dinner for 2 fine Italian restaurant $35.00- Nice café $16.00
Bottle of good Peruvian wine Tacama/Occuajae- $5.50

If you do not want to live on the ocean you can easily rent a nice apartment here for $400 furnished. If you want to buy plan on $50 sq.ft for new construction.

Although taxis are cheap and plentiful I find it useful to have a car for weekend travel. The common perception is that only surfers use the beach in Miraflores / Barranco / Chorillos. I only go in the ocean at the beaches south of here. If you have a car you can be at the beach in 40 mins.

LimaBusy

[Latina Addict]

Hey Dash,

Do a search and reference my previous discussions on gringas, in Baires section (they don´t even rate capitalizing their name gringa), about how they are, "a waist of vaginal tissue".

Anyway I digress, and here is an example of the chicks here, even the pros. I arrived last night on the all nighter and our van passed (on purpous) Tequilas. ( I actually hate this plce due to the attitude there and prices, but at that horny moment, it was the only game in town without significant effort) I saw a cute, young hard Cholita at the door and yelled at her to wait 20 minutes for me and I smiled at her, she gave a sweet smile back. All the following and the yell, were, and are in Spanish, which I consider a must south of the shit hole Santa Cruz de gringalandia.

Jumped into some clothes, and raced over, dodging beggers and bought some candy for a little family who was the least annoying of the group. Wow really pissed off the aggressive ones. Any way, I arrived at 05:00 , they close at 06:00. Went down, bought a beer and up came this girl I yelled at. Her name is Almendra. (Not her real name, but, is her name when she works at Club 69, read on.

Well, it was like this chick was my freaking horny assed fiance, and like she knew me forever. As good as any Brazilera that has ever attacked me. Business included her groping the shit out of me, DFK, and us laughing cutely at the gringos dancing with the girls and how drunk they all were. She said lets go and I indicated that nothing in life is free, and I hate surprises. (Mi linda, nada en este vida es gratis, y las odio surpresas. A good line to remember Gringos) She said we all pay for every thing and I asked how much her love would cost me. She said 80 dollars. I then laughed and said she must be dreaming ( Jaja, parace eres soñando amor!) She said 70, I looked at her, she said 60, I looked at her, she said 50, I looked at her and she paused. Based on previous experience, I know this is a level that if gone below at Tequilas, performance could suffer, so I indicated for this HUGE amount, we need to be together forever! She said we can be together as long as I want! I said I will leave the next morning early, and would love to have a peruvian beauty till then, she said of course, and we left.

In the room, she was a freaking tiger! She has to have some Brazillian blood in her! She attacked me and proceeded to blow me while I was standing up and my pants on. She was soooo horny and wet, and that pussy was as clean and pure as the driven snow! Wow. The following sex was then rated as easily the top 10 I have ever had, with everything happening uncovered! (Spare me the lecture fellas, this was something the porn industry would pay big money for, and there was a bonding that I have not felt in a long time). I am leaving out a little bit of our conversation, I will mention some at the end.

She especially loved to suck my dick while I was fucking her, a little pounding, a lot of sucking. Back and forth. So hot. And the more we fucked, the wetter she got! Then, she said that this was so hot and sexy, and she loved to be with me so much, she was ashamed, and that she would not take my money! Yep, she said that. I, being the gentleman I try to be sometimes said, she needed it for her little boy and that I was not a selfish Machista.

We woke at 11:00 AM after two long hour and a half sessions, and she said SHIT I have to get my kid! Fuck! We argued nicely about how I meant tomorrow morning, not this morning and she claimed to not understand. She promised to come tonight to the hotel at 8:00 PM Gringo time, not Peruvian time. I hope she is for real, because it is absolutely worth that repeat performance!

Ok, one last detail. Her name at tequilas is not Almendra, cuz I am a little bit jeleous of all you horny fucks getting to her too soon. But I will say this. She has worked at Culu 69 since April and she gave me the following info. This info is why I have said many times I will NEVER set my white Gringo ass in places like Club 69. There she said drinks are 30 soles for her. To have a "privado" it will take 2 drinks, 160 pesos for the house and 100 dollars for the chica! That is fucking 168 dollars for a couple of hours with a Club 69 girl! Yea right, bite me! And I had uncovered, fucking incredible honeymoon sex with Almendra, a Club 69 girl, for 50 dollars (Yes this is too much too, but even a better value than the best crack ***** Santa Cruze de gringolandia has to offer) and I am pretty sure it will continue tonight, all night for at the most, a nice romantic dinner! Viva Peru!

Ok now for the rating:

Name at Club 69 - Almendra
Age - 21 and a half
Face - 7.2
Body - 7.5, not quite as tight as a 21 YO should be, but sooo sexy.
Tits - 7 Ever so slightly saggy A cup ,awsome little girl nipples.
Ass - 8
Hair - 6 That deep fake, red, shoulder length.
BBBJTCIMTS - Easy 9, and add a half point for the dozen times she pulled me out and proceeded to suck like her life depended on it.
Performance overall - 9.8
Look on the faces of the obvious cunts in tequilas (that hit on me and want 100 dollars ) when I met Almendra and walked out with her sucking her face in 10 minutes - priceless.

Latina Addict

[Latina Passion]

Bowling,

"The normal things that are expected from a guy"

Dude my best advise to you, just be yourself infront of your girl as well as her family, the last thing you wnat to do is be something that your not, because in the end it will all come out in the wash!

This is my point, the apple does not fall far from the tree! If your girl likes you for who you are then what makes you think that her parents will not feel the same? After all they raised her.

Bowling, a relationship is hard enough and twice as hard if the pair are from two different cultures, so why fluff your resume?

If she is truely a keeper then just be yourself!

If she is a keeper, then you are 100% correct in wanting to meet her family, once again it don't fall to far from the tree. Now if she is fluffing her resume chances are you will see the true her in her family!

Six years ago I made that mistake, my wife fluffed her resume, hell I even saw the true side of her family and over looked them, big mistake on my part, do not make the same!

[Bowling]

Guys I could use some advice,

I really hit it off with a young lady from Peru a few months back. We write to each other everyday, I've been to see her since and I am going to see her again very soon. A beautiful, intelligent young woman. Some of you guys are probably saying "yeah, sure!, they all are!" Despite what some of you may think, this girl is a keeper.

Maybe this is not the place to ask, but so far this forum is all I've found that is a half ways decent reference for any useful information. What I need to know is some things about the culture and relationship stuff. Not the machismo crap, but the normal things expected of a guy. If I am to continue seeing her without her getting into trouble I need to meet her mother soon, and also I'd like her to know that I care about that sort of thing. Any suggestions?

You guys with any kind of sence know what I'm looking for. If anyone has any advice let me know. It would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks,

Bowling

[Don River]

Robert 51,

The probability of getting a young woman here on a visitors visa is very low. Visitor visas are issued for a period 10 years. The presumption of the US counsulate is that a young woman of no means, no job to return to, and no future in Peru will do what hundreds of people do each year. That is come here and never return to Peru. This is especially true if she has other relatives in the US. The exception is if she has an education, profession, and money in the bank, she may be able to qualify.

A fiance visa takes about 6-7 months to process. You fill out your biographical information, and hers and submit the required documents. When they have reviewed evey thing here they will wire the embassy in Lima to set up an interview with your novia.

She has to convince the counsulor officer that she is seriously intending to marry you. Part of your documentation will have been photographic proof that you have met each other and a declaration that you intend to marry her when she arrives.

The financial information is not onerous on you. They want to know that you are able to support her and be financially responsible for her for two years.

After she has passed the interview, which takes about 4 hours, they will issue her a fiance visa that is valid for 90 days only from the day she enters the US. What that means is she has 90 days to get married and file appropriate documentation with the BCIS. If you don't get this all done within the 90 days, she is subject to deportation.

If she has had any sort of legal problems for example prostitution or drugs, they will not issue the visa. If she were to get into any trouble during the first two years that you are married, she is subject to deportation. They probably would not find out about it until she applied for a permanent green card. Then they would refuse to give her permanent status even though you are married.

You can do all the paperwork yourself and save the cost of an attorney. All the forms and instructions are on the web site. If you do it yourself, you can still expect to spend about $ 2K. That does not include the round trip ticket that she has to have with a return flight 90 days from when she enters the US.

What you do not want to do is get married and try to bring her into the country. She will still have to go through all the steps, but they really drag their feet. Also, you run the risk that somthing will come up that will preclude her from coming here even if you are married.

Good luck!

If you want further information or have questions PM me. The most important thing that you have to do is practice patience because the process will drive you crazy.

Don

[Robert51]

Lima Busy,

Thank You for the reply. The Peru bord is getting kinda dead. I was in Lima last October and stayed in Miraflores and San Isidro. I also traveled down to Parracas.

I will be going back down in 3 weeks. I will be staying at Cusco and in the Sacred Valley this time.

I meet several interesting ladies on this last trip and was just interested in how the visa thing was going for you, as I could see myself being interested in that sort of thing myself. Moving is not an option for me at this time, but is not something I wouldn't mind considering someday if given the opportunity.

Good Luck on your quests, keep us informed.

Adios,

Robert51

[Lima Busy]

Robert51,

I had no luck with the tourist visa. I went that route because it takes alot longer for a fiance visa, you have to provide bank and financial information. More importantly if a chica comes here on a fiance visa and does not get married here in six months she can never return. The fiance visa is applied for in the United States a tourist visa is applied for in the girls home country. The cost is $125 and is non refundable in the event she is turned down. The girl simply calls the American embassy in her own country after she has wired them the money. My chica got a appointment in 10 days as opposed to 8-10 weeks as they say on the state dept. website. They blew her off in 5 minutes and told her I had to apply for a fiance visa. Most likely because our age difference is 28 years. No biggy, I sold the Porsche and the condo and will be moving permanently in June.

I choose Peru based on chicas, finances, security (no muslem terrorists flying planes into shit) Food (rated one of the top 10 cuisines in the world) History (amazing) cultural diversity. I will be living in Miraflores as I enjoy that cafe society thing. In a hour I can be in Santa Maria the Hamptons of Lima. Every 3 months I will be leaving my girlfriend and travelling to Central and South America to sample the goods. In the future when the real estate bubble bursts and they capture Osama I may come back and reinvest. If not I will settle down in Buenas Aires or Cartagena if they ever get that situation under control. I love Lima but longer term the climate sucks. Outside of Miraflores and San Ysidiro the air pollution is deadly. The altitude in Cuzco would kill me. I hear Tumbes and Chicalayo are nice places to live and I will check them out as well. If all goes well I will be the Krispy Kreme King of South America.

Lima is no different from any other city I have been to. In the end it all comes down to attitude. If you enjoy experiencing life and all its oppurtunities you can be happy anywhere. If you have demons in your life, you will be sharing your apartment with them weither it is Pittsburgh, Paris or Pattaya.

Lima Busy

[Robert51]

Hey Lima Busy,

I would ve interested in hearing more about what you have to say about the tourist visa and about the things you have seen or done in Peru. Why tourist vs fiancee? What are the costs associated with such a thing??

Would be interested in hearing what, where, why, and what's great in your past experiences in Peru.

Latter

Robert

[Lima Busy]

Hi all,

Did not want to waste time on the Lima boards. I am moving to Peru as soon as I can sell the house and cars. In the interim, I am trying to get my hottie up here (N.Y.C) on a tourist visa as opposed to a fiance visa. l will let you know how it goes. The embassy website says it is 8-10 weeks for the initial interview. After much crying I convinced my hottie to make the call anyway.

She called today and has her interview on march 18. I am not saying she will get the visa but after 2 mos in the states I need some peruana takeout.

I will only post the results if their is some interest.

Eddie

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