Prostitution and Law Enforcement

[JuiceSpike]

Oh shit... there is more in here?

For the record, I don't mind criticism and don't mind being judged. I get pissy but you already know that. But, some of us are at least reporting from the front lines while others take shots sometimes without reading posts carefully or just to stirr things up. Apologies are welcome but not saying anything in a rush in the first place is better.

juice.

[Her555]

Mangus Man,

Your post is full of hata of this grand land America. I dsagree with you totally! Even I am not of the side from the LE and police, but still America is the best!

The following is a quote from or grat man Jackson, the provider of this bord, on 01\19\04 "You don't have to like America or Americans to be a member of this Forum, but I'll be damned if I'm going to let anyone use my Forum as a platform for expousing blatant anti-American hate speach."

And I love this roll.

Her555

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[Pokey]

JuiceSpike says:

FUCK, what is it with a bunch of didactic, self rightous, lectures types in this forum?
Stop taking this site so fucking seriously and get a fucking life. If you want moraly clean, rightous content read the classifieds ads in your home town newspaper. Wankers.
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JZ, thats a rather pompous attitute telling me where I should post, and dictating WGN forum writing etiquette, isn't it? If Jackson doesn't like what I write, he can delete it, and take me off this forum, not you.

I posted JuiceSpike's Thailand comments on this forum, mearly to show, how you enjoy attacking others, oh I forgot, you only attack their position. You can call it what you will, but you clearly pissed him off, and I don't feel, he thinks of you as a great friend of his. I didn't post this in the Thailand forum, because I don't travel to that part of the world, if I did, I wouldn't have any balls left when I got back to my world. My personal rule is, I don't post where I don't travel, but everyone is free to do what they feel is right. You say, Getting Tang, likes to augue, and show how tough he is, but you are much worst, you get off on it!

I see you have a following of flunky types. What happen they can't find anyone to follow since, David Koresh, of the Branch Davidians is dead. Hey guys, JZ is not the Guru, you think he is, and he can fight his own fights; he uses words like " swords",
or he likes to think he does.

[Bez Bezarra]

Hey Civ.

Its not ONLY that LE gets pleasure out of taking people's cars, ITS ALL ABOUT THE BENJAMINS!

Just proves again in the USA that govt/police, its always about money.

AMERICA = FREEDOM/JUSTICE/HONESTY/INTEGRITY?

Please you must be kidding. According to Prosecutors, AND the Judges, its all routine matter of fact Standard Operating procedure for all female undercover officers to perjure themselve, offer totally 100% false testimony about what a guy really said---- AS LONG AS IT RESULTS IN GETTING YOUR MONEY. EVERY PART OF THIS CASH SUCKING OCTOPUS HAS THEIR TENTACLES STICKING TO YOUR CHECKBOOK. ITS A FREE RIDE!! GUARANTEED ENDLESS SUPPLY OF CASH, YOU THINK THEY'LL EVER GIVE IT UP, THEY MADE IT LEGIT. 100% PURE LEGAL SYSTEM OF EXTORTION. CORRUPTION SO DEEPLY ENTRENCHED, IT MAKES 3RD WORLD LOOK AMATEUR.

Female undercover officers always get paid a full 8 hour shift of overtime for these assignments, at least $240, (@ $30/hr), and they may only need to actually work 3 hours. Easy money and their ridiculous power trip.

Prosecutor, D/A, and the whole courthouse keep their top salaries, guarranteed raises, perks like new cars, retirement $$ etc., never have to worry about taxpayers complaining they get too much and can't even play fair.

Police departments/ Judges: Yeah, it doesn't matter one single bit if you're not guilty, you will pay each $500 to get your car back and get out of jail. And don't worry, you can be 100% not guilty, the judge will always believe any and every lie the female undercover says, and never believe you when you tell the truth. Only $$ talks, no truth allowed in this court!

Danish kids? I've explained to local guys in so many countries how our girl cops dress like ho's and arrest you if you talk to them. These guys always look at me in dis-belief , its not even possible for them to comprehend why this is done? I tell them that it it the job of police to keep the public safe! LOL!

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[Travis Bickle 2]

Perhaps Jackson could start a new section entitled Flames and Personal Attacks. What do you guys think?

Civ2K

Just kidding of course.

[GettingTang]

Once again I must remind you people, we are all nothing more then nameless faceless text to this forum. Attacks, whether they be of a personal nature or pertaining to what someone else wrote really are and should be meaningless. Take it with a grain of salt people. I've been attacked over on the Thai boards for mentioning things such as how much I paid for MP3 files, CDs and the girls who work the beach walk area. Those attacks turned personal in the context of forum style. However, I realized this is the make believe world and we all need to remember that.

GETTINGTANG~!

[Her555]

dear civ2000,

i am now in the board, but i like the way you responed, thank you.

but civ2000, you put words in my report and meke it sound like you have to dsagree wite me. not al all.

all i am saying is against country john! who in my opinion deserve to been banned from this great board !because he is a lover for or enemy, the le.

my point is: if someone asks if you've hed sex with a girl, remember: tell him what nancy reagan says; just say no.

understand. the le will do evry ting to put you out from the street. and even to put you in jail. if they have enough proof to charge you then they will, if they don't, do not give it for the le. and like you said in your report: "my main problem with the cops has been their arrogant and elitest attitudes and the fact that they enjoy busting mongers so much and the pleasure they get out of taking someone's car."

civ2000, can you tell me why you are so angry?

who said: prostitution and having sex in cars is illegal in the united states.

my point: the police should handle that like a speeding ticket, or like a summons, period. but thie not in our case.

who said: if a hooker park in front of my house and my kids see them.

my point: so what ? sex is moral. if sex is immoral then life itself is immoral. if you believe that having sex isn't moral, then go ahead and believe it. that's my choice and it's up to me to make that choice.

who said: if my two-year-old carries into the house a used condom or syringe a prostitute tossed into your yard.

my point: comman civ2000! did you belive thet going to hapeen. if so, jost lern the two year old. do not do that! it is dangers!

who said: your sixteen-year-old is too afraid to catch the bus because older men in cars stop and try to get her to get in.

my point: that is racist civ2000, and like i said in my report "cops should be focused on crime's like murders, [CodeWord127]"

who said: i think we as mongers have responsibilities.

my point: sure we have, like or responsibilities to watch to eat health food, or to watch not to get a cold.

who said: a lot of americans are conditioned to believe that sex is somehow bad or dirty and should be done in a dark bedroom under the covers.

my point: that the problem from the americans, so we as mongers, should not.

thanks again,

her555

p.s. stiil i like you, honny, and i like your report in the burd "the morality of prostitution" of 1\20\04 "one would think from reading my post that i am not in favor of legalizing prostitution. i just don't know. as a monger, of course i would like to see it legal with hookers eight deep on every street corner. what monger wouldn't?"

me to honny!

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[Joe Zop]

"Well, I had to take a little break,( 1 hour) and you guys already response to my post, how rude"

Rude is calling people out, pissing on them, and then walking away. Utter gall is complaining that you've returned, unzipped, and they didn't wait for you to finish what you were doing.

[Plugger]

Pokey,

The next time you want to poke your nose where it doesn't belong, make sure that you at least bring the discussion into the right section. What a joke!

[Joe Zop]

You know, Pokey, you can blow it out of one of your orifices -- you want to join the discussion there in the Thailand section, fine, but it's off-topic here, and I made my meanings and position quite clear within the context of my posts there. You, as usual, can't distinguish the difference between having a discussion about approach and attacking someone. Juice is an absolutely great poster, and I've repeatedly said so far longer than you've been on this board, during which period of time he and I have both agreed and disagreed on a variety of things, but that doesn't mean I won't speak up when I disagree with him.

Unlike you, who seem to think that goose-stepping alongside of someone else is the only way to show loyalty and honor, I believe the true measure of demonstrating intellectual regard is to feel safe in disagreeing with people you like and respect.

It's you, who regularly attacks the man and not the thoughts, who ought to be ashamed. I've seen plenty of flames from you but far, far less in terms of supporting arguments. (There were certainly none in your last post.)

And well said, as usual, Civ2000.

[Travis Bickle 2]

Her555, You ask, what right does LE have to control your sexual behavior? You say it should be okay to have sex in your car and LE should leave you alone. Here's the problem with that. For whatever reason prostitution and having sex in cars is illegal in the United States. Like it or not the police have the responsibility to enforce all our laws; not just some of them. In a country such as ours, if the overwhelming majority of folks wanted prostitution legal, they would simply have to get enough signatures to put it on the ballot and vote it into law.

Unfortunately this is not the case. People don't seem to want it legalized. Having sex in cars is fine, unless they park in front of your house and your kids see them. Having sex in cars is fine until your two-year-old carries into the house a used condom or syringe a prostitute tossed into your yard. Picking up prostitutes is fine until your sixteen-year-old is too afraid to catch the bus because older men in cars stop and try to get her to get in. Also, the drugs, gang activity, pimps, violence, etc that usually go along when street prostitution gets out of hand. Try getting the voters of the city of Seattle to decide which one of their neighborhoods to allow men and prostitutes to have sex in their cars.

I think we as mongers have responsibilities. We don't carelessly discard condoms. We don't try to pick up a gal we're not positive is a hooker, etc. The cops are really doing what the public in large part want them to do. My main problem with the cops has been their arrogant and elitest attitudes and the fact that they enjoy busting mongers so much and the pleasure they get out of taking someone's car. But not the fact that they enforce the laws of our society.

I think legalizing brothels might be another matter altogether and I think there should be some sort of legalized prostitution. I would even like to see certain areas (say industrial areas) where SW's are tolerated. But the fact is that every time someone has tryed a initiative to legalize or decriminalize prostitution here, it gets soundly defeated.

We Americans, though we hate to admit it, are real puritans compared to the rest of the world when it comes to sex. They did a study once with Danish and American youngsters. The two groups of kids got off a plane where there was a nude statue. The American kids giggled, acted embarrassed, pointed, laughed, made jokes, etc. The Danish kids gave it a quick glance and didn't give it a second thought. A lot of Americans are conditioned to believe that sex is somehow bad or dirty and should be done in a dark bedroom under the covers. Certainly not the members of this great board however.

Civ2K

[Sainter]

Pokey,

I'm unfamiliar with the term "winnie". I'm assuming you're calling me a soft crybaby. Well, if that's your view, then so be it. I'm just a little dissapointed that I'm not allowed to have a different view to Juice without getting a tongue lashing. After all that section was meant to be about our opinions.

Regarding the morality of his actions, well hey I did say in my later posts that he is better qualified to deal with a TG than me. I'm just saying that there's no need to lie and give someone false hope just to get them into bed.

Pokey, I really hope we can have a honest discussion about this without having to resort to namecalling as has happened on the Thai site.

Cheers.

[Pokey]

JuiceSpike says:

"Great experience. I got what I wanted. Sure, I lied and made her believe I would want more than just sex with her. It worked for 1 day and then she was smart enough to know better. Pretty girl. A player. The one thing that really convince her about staying with me was that I told her that I would take care of her, I was not specific but did tell her that if she did not get a job not to worry.

Find, fuck and forget. I turned the tables around and got what I wanted. Short time. Free."
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Sainter says:

"I usually see eye to eye with you guys on most things. However, this one time I don't. Juice, I think what you do is highly immoral."
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Joe Zops says:

"It's unnecessary to lie to women, and demeaning not to them but to me."
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Skinless, says to JT, "Mind you the scarf around the neck is a lit scary but hey..."
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Sainter, I was reviewing the Thailand section to see if I wanted to waste my time and respond to you. I will!

Sainter, you are a "winnie" for taking JuiceSpike to task for lying to girl in Thailand ( not a pro) just to go to bed with her. You too JT, you guys should be ashamed of yourselves. ( its demeaning to you JT??)

Guys, I could go into a long augument on why you are wrong for attacking poor JuiceSpike, but I feel just by calling you guys winnies, says it all and saves time.

I have to admit, I do flame a little, but only a little. I feel it sometimes adds spice and favor to a discussion. I usually follow up any flame I made with a supporting augument.

Opps I have to go...I'll finish this later.

Well, I had to take a little break,( 1 hour) and you guys already response to my post, how rude, so I guess I won't finish my post. Just pass the " Grey Poupon" I'm done!

[Sainter]

Pokey, there was no need to take a swing at JZ just because his views differ from yours. If any one should get off their high horse it should be you. Errr, make that a high mule.

Well said JZ.