Buenos Aires - 2004 Reports

[MoonDog]

Dickfer,

Enjoy her company, but see others.

Jackson,

Nice reply.

Moondog

[Tilleul1]

Hi,

I will be in Buenos Aires from nov 15 to 21.

It will be a great pleasure for me to meet guys from this forum.

So ...

[Dickfer]

A question for senior BA mongers-

I met a killer 20 year old chica with a 9.5 body-face at an Apt. I´m much more into having long-time (e.g. 4 hours or more) GFE in my apt - last night we went out to movie & dinner then back at my apt for about 1.5 hours of sex - paid her 400p, prearranged. Do you think this is fair for who I think is the hottest chic around? How would you negotiate for more time for less money?

Also, I'm finding that with her, I'm getting a smitten "puppy love" feeling, where I start getting a bit self conscious and I think she´s sensing that a bit too. It doesn't help that she speaks rapid fire Castelleno and keep on asking "entiendes?" and all I can say is "No" or "No, Lo Siento." I don´t usually feel this way with any chicas that I monger with but she´s starting to affect me like a hot chic back at home would (that is NO GOOD - I´m sure you all know that stupid feeling). Any advice in how to deal with this? How do you all think the Portenas feel when they meet someone that´s so different from the typical argentinian man they meet (think supersensitive ponytail man who´s obviously awed by her)?

Hi Dickfer,

My Advice: Unless you're planning to move here permanently, don't torture yourself by dabbling in a pretend foreign affair. In third world countries like the Phillippines or Central America it is possible to have a pretend long-distance foreign romance because the girls are generally pre-disposed to meet and marry an American and move to the USA. Argentina is different in that while the girls may be interested in developing a romance, it's going to be with a guy (American or otherwise) who lives here, and they generally are not interested in leaving the country.

The other barrier is the language problem. Simply put, you don't need great communication skills to fuck, but you do need them to develop a relationship.

I've witnessed too many of these situations personally, and it generally results in the guy making a lot of bad decisions (like thinking that the "working girl" isn't working any more, sending money from the USA, etc.) and in the end being emotionally tortured and feeling foolish.

Thanks,

Jackson

[Dickfer]

madaho´s-black experiences

friday night - got there around 10pm with general custer, there was only couple chicas there at that time, but surely the chicas started to fill in and by 11pm there was at least 20 chicas there and maybe 5 dudes. i didn´t wait long to pick my chica, pamela, a 22 year old paraguayan.

bought her a drink, made out with some dfk, and negotiated the price. she offered 250 for 1.5 hour - i thought about it and later countered with dos-cien pesos for 1.5 hours and she quickly said yes. now later when i paid her at my apt, she was surprised to see only 200p and asked for 250p. i wasn´t sure whether there was miscommunication because of my poor castelleno (i´ve had 3 years of high school espanol but understanding castelleno, especially how double l´s are pronounced like a z, has been difficult to understand at times - for example, llamar sounds like sharma), and didn´t think it was worth the 18 bucks or whatever to argue about it, so i let it go at 250.

anyways, back at my apt, she was kind of timid. she had a smoking little bod with opulent c cups on a 5´2¨frame. i told myself that i won't daty while mongering, but just couldn´t help myself! she had a very small clitoris and it was difficult to maintain good contact. i consider my technique quite good and can usually get girls to climax, but for whatever the reason, it didn´t happen, even after quite long (20min) daty. but damn did her ass look good during doggy!

saturday night, went to black's. i didn´t have change so i gave the cab driver 100pesos, and he gave me two 20´s and one 50. the guy at black´s immediately recognized my 20´s from the cabbie as fake, and pointed out the pertinent features (one of them is there should be a faint replica of the person on the left hand white colum when viewed with a light). oh well, 40p down the drain. then i ordered a vodka and red bull at the bar and the waitress told met that it´d cost me the price of two drinks as i´m buying red bull and vodka. it ended up being something like 60p extra (in addition to drink price included with the cover) - i was surprised, but again i didn´t check the price and the drink has been made. then she has the nerve to tell me that this does not include a ¨service fee¨of 10%, 15% or ¨more.¨ i just looked at her incredulously but rememering some previous posts, i did not want to get banned from black´s by raising a scene with the bitchy bartender, so i paid my frickin´tip. stupid dickfer!

i didn´t think the talent at blacks was very good that night. the chicas were quite young, a lot of them looked like they could be in high school. not that there´s anything wrong with that but i felt like these girls were primarily appealing their youth rather than beauty. there was constant peek-a-boo of eye contact, but i couldn´t justify the black´s prices for any of these girls given what i´ve seen already at madaho´s.

so off to madaho´s - in general i think the staff at madaho´s is a lot less pretentious than black´s and feel that they provide a courteous service. a burnette with a beaming smile was spotted. her name was melinda, and when i motioned her over, and she was again in all smiles and immediately i started to feel her legs, her soft and very grabbable flesh above the iliac crest. melina´s very cute (9 face at madaho´s as the lighting obscured some harsher features, but still an 8 face once examined closer later under better light), engaging, smiling. 8.5 in body, but once her clothes came off, it was more like 9.5! i take her back to a dark corner and i´m feeling her up. her body is even better than her face. after about 45 minutes, we talk about ¨salida.¨ she asks whether i like 3somes. it turns out that she won´t go back to dude´s apartment alone as she had a ¨mal experencia,¨ and will only goto hotel by herself or go back to my palce with her friend. well, i fucking love my apartment and don´t feel like paying extra for a hotel room that´s probably not nearly as nice as my apartment. i tell her to bring her friend over, and sabrina´s not bad. blond, face is like 7 (6 under the light) body 7.5 (body rating stays the same regardless of light). they love to dance and we dance at the club for about an hour, it´s 4am, so we head off to my apt.

before entering, i ask them to wait in the hall, go in the apt myself, take out money (500p for both) from the wall safe, put away the safe key, and let them in. they love the apartment (i´m staying at marco´s guc and it is to be recommended - more report on this later in apt section). a few pictures were taken, ¨con ropas.¨ very hot. decent cbj´s but no porn bj as i was too distracted to direct more goal-oriented brain activity. the body on melina´s is incredible - a definite 9.5. when she got on four reverse cowgirl, sabrina and i were just floored by how fucking delicious her ass looks rocking away. we order pizza afterward, they leave at 7am, leaving behind a plume of cigarrette smoke.

[One Tree Hill]

El Ricardo,

I hope to be down between Nov 12-20th schedule permitting.

I love Europe, but scheit! that Euro exch rate is killer, just too damn expensive to have fun!

[El Ricardo]

I just went into one of these currency converters, and this is what they give for exchange rates:

1.00 Euro = 1.22934 USD
1.00 USD = 2.97300 ARS (Argentine Pesos)

If this is what's really happening, then I think these have remained pretty constant over the past few years. One of the reasons I keep going to Argentina is that big fat 1.23 dollar/euro rate! The US dollar has been really soft for a long time, and doesn't look to be on the brink of moving much.

My point is its a world market. If this one (Bs.As.) were to be driven higher, we'd start looking elsewhere. What the heck, some of us are already flying halfway around the world to enjoy the sport and the comraderie of fellow mongers! From my own experiences, this is still the best deal on the planet: best value and not only some of the most beautiful women I've ever met, but attitudes and demeanor that are just fun to be around. There's more to the experience than just the $$!

In fact, I believe this so much that I have talked myself into purchasing a ticket and renting an apartment for the first long weekend in November! It is my plan to practice the Dickhead Plan of the 15 Points! I intend to start from the bottom of the list and take Sr. Dickhead to dinner. Anybody else in town during this time?
El Ricardo

[Starfe]

Always a complainer in the group,

You never had it so good in you're life. You never had so much cheap pussy coming at you from all directions. For the moment you are living in the " sweet spot " of life.

All the stars are aligned for this one perfect moment for price and beauty . Odds are we will never experience this phenomenon again in our lifetime. But you go right ahead and keep b#tching about how tough things are right now .
Starfe

[Dickhead]

I concur fully with Exon's assessment. It's a depreciating currency and that will always lead to inflation. The only reason we Americans are getting fucked in the ass is because the current US government is following both fiscal and monetary policies that are weakening the dollar at the same time the peso is depreciating.

[Exon123]

Exon Reporting : Prices going up

I think the answer to this question is just pure everyday garden variety inflation. The peso is not worth anything so it takes more of them to buy anything, maybe even pussy since the girls have to eat and pay rent too.

But I'll defer to DickHead for the true reason's.

Exon

[Saint]

Andres might be a better person to post about this but I feel that it's a combination of everything but the fact that places like Dollys are also increasing their prices tells me that it's what I posted a while ago. It can't be blamed on only the tourists. Look at the make up of Madahos on any given night. It's mostly locals NOT tourists.

Here is my take on things. (Besides inflation which is a given).When the financial system collapsed here in the beginning of 2002, many of the people that already had money were prepared for it. In fact, the rich just got richer because they already moved their money overseas or pulled it out of the banks and when it went as high as almost 4 to one, many converted it and just got richer. Unfortunately, most of the country lost alot of money. It caused a lot of panicking and people just didn't know what to think or do. Many panic sold their houses/apartments to raise money. (Hence the artificially low prices in rents and purchase prices). It has since adjusted. Now that people realize they were living in a dream for 10 years and it will NEVER go back to 1:1 they are starting to adjust to life post-devaluation. They are starting to spend money more freely.

Also, keep in mind that Buenos Aires has a lot of wealthy people. Most would be surprised at just how wealthy some of these people are. Walk around Recoleta, Belgrano, Palermo or other areas of the city. The cafes near my apartment where I live aren't filled with tourists. They are filled with locals and they are freely spending a lot of money.

People are starting to spend money again and just aren't as panicked as they once were. I could be wrong, but I truly believe that this is the reason you are seeing places starting to charge more. (even local places that are mostly frequented by locals). Everyone realizes that they were lucky to be living in a dream for a period so long. Those that were lucky took advantage of the strong artificially high peso and traveled the world, bought cars or apartments. That's also why even though Menem stole money, many people on the streets I talk to say, "God bless Menom.... had it not been for him I wouldn't have been able to buy my apartment/house/car/fill in the blank".

JMHO.

[JackDaniels]

I am glad we have moved on and prices are being talked about alongside other issues.

My question back on 9/19 to the gentlemen who frequent this board was whether prices are going up due to the general improvement of the economy. Posts from Andres and Saint seem to indicate that it is and not all of it is tourist driven. Some of it must be. So it is probably both, I would surmise.

Cheers.

[Roxanne]

Hi, Guys:

I'm back in town!!!!

You can call me at my cell. phone for my translation service!!!

Kisses, Roxana.

[Keyser Soze]

Gentlemen,

Quick query for the regulars.

Have not been to BA for 2 years, but considering a trip over Xmas/New Year and was wondering what happens in BA at that time - is it deadly quiet, or full of action.

Do not necessarily mean just the boliches, as I am an occassional hobbyist, but bars/restaurants in general.

Hoping to meet more non wg's if possible as I may be returning regularly to BA in the future.

Thanks in advance for any advice.

Keyser

[Saint]

MagicHat,

You're welcome. Speaking of which, I just was there tonight with a guy I met on my very first trip to Buenos Aires. (We'll call him AMPM) We had a great time joking around with the girls and we both pulled out two hotties. I left with a beautiful girl from Paraguay and he left with a stunner from Argentina. It was the hottest girl he ever pulled in BA he said. Anyway, before that we went to dinner in Recoleta. He was amazed at how easy it is to talk to girls. I was flirting with our waitress who was super cute. I asked her if she had a boyfriend. She did. I asked her how long she was dating him. She said 2 years. She lived 1 hour 40 minutes from the Capital. Throughout the dinner, everytime she came to bring us drinks or food I'd ask her another question. Asked her if she was in love. If he was a good guy. She said he was a dog and always cheated on her. (Such is life in South America).

Anyway, I asked her to help me with her hot friends and she said that I should have no problems here. By the end of the dinner I told her in Spanish, "what a shame you have a boyfriend because I would have loved to have taken you out to dinner some time". Guess what her answer was even though she said she had a guy that she said she was in love with? "Oh...we can still go out. We can get to know one another..you never know". This American dude I was with was amazed but that is how it is here. If you can speak decent Spanish it's not that difficult getting dates depending on your game playing skills. I gave her my business card and I'm fairly sure that she will call. The lesson is to learn some Spanish so you can communicate with them. It will go a long way. She was 21, blonde and very good looking. The morale of the story is that BA isn't just about pay2play action. The everyday girl on the street, working in restaurants, malls, etc. are very very cool and fun girls.

The session I had was amazing. Maybe one of the top 10 in South America which is saying alot. She is going to Mar del Plata this weekend for 2 nights to just take a get away and asked if I would come but I can't be blowing money on trips. I just went to Uruguay last weekend. Another time perhaps. God bless Argentina!

P.S. I've been to Dollys I think 3 times with Andres over the past 2.5 years. I've never once seen any super HOT girls in there. A few might have been do-able but nothing to write home about. All three times there were NO tourists in there. I doubt they get many tourists in there. Andres made an excellent point. Prices in general are going up in Buenos Aires. I see it. Not all of it can be blamed on tourists. The locals dictate more the price then the tourists do. Anyway, I would have never pulled anyone out of there then and now with the price increase wouldn't even go back there.

[Doc Bill]

Moondog, sorry, I was looking at a bunch of websites, I might have remembered incorrectly.