San Jose - 2004 Reports

[Too Jaded]

I went to CR a couple of months ago to celebrate my thirtieth birthday. I went well informed after having read through the posts at this site, so thanks to all of you who contribute.

I've spent several years overseas, but this was my first international vacation and my first time in central or south america. I speak enough spanish to get by, which while not necessary, will certainly help you get along and especially with some of the younger and lesser educated girls who tend to work in places like Zona Blue (see below).

The ride from the airpport should cost you no more than $15, they'll try to get $50, but don't be a sucker. You'll be intimidated at first, as the taxi situation is pandemonium and nothing like what you'd expect at some place like Dulles or Frankfurt; you're on your own to find a ride.

Upon arriving at my hotel my first night, I was solely in the mood to relax at a local bar. I checked in at the Grano De Oro, which is a beautiful hotel though I had some problems (see below) and asked the bellman where I migt find a nice relaxed joint to get a scotch or two. Obviously he misunderstood me, because I wound up at a strip club somewhere on the east end of town. It is only a few blocks from the Hotel. I went in anyway determined not to allow my dick to do the thinking.... yeah right! I sat down and started with a beer, but before you know it I am batting away fine looking nicas. My resolve didn't last however as there was one in particular that I couldn't keep my eyes off of, and sensing this she came over. I couldn't say no.

So, of course, I have to start buying her $20 juicies. Normally I wouldn't do this, but I took this trip with the mindset that I was going to cut loose and celebrate; Turning 30 has had me a little depressed. After talking with her for who knows how long, and she was a beautiful solid 9 with long legs and a hard body, she calls over her 19 year old prodigy who made my dick stand at attention immediately. Golden colored hair, very innocent looking, and just super hot. So now I am buying them both Kool-aids, and I must have dropped $300-$400 in just the couple of hours I was there. I had a great time though, they took me up on stage and let me lick and rub them as they made out with the dancer, etc. At the end of the night I got very aggressive with the bartender, and after some negotiations (I was a bit drunk at this point which always brings out my superman) I managed to argue a salida for both of only $125. It was the end of the night and I used the 'take it or leave it; argument. Normally I would think that $125 was still too much, as I hadn't even bargained with the girls, but again I wanted both girls and they were both too hot to turn down.

So I took them both back to the hotel but of course, at this point I had a problem. The Grano de Oro is a bit pretentious, and absolutely would not let me in with them. No problem though, the girls knew a place so I checked out and went off to someplace called something like "Hotel Teatro Real" or something, kinda outside the city on the highway. It was real late, and the hotel check-in guy was real cool, but was adament that I keep things quiet. I think he was worried that I was gonna make a lotta noise. Whatever... my platimum card eased his concerns. We went up to the room, I locked my valuables away, chilled, and got to business. I passed out though, and woke up with a girl on each arm. I got lucky; they could have ripped me off and bolted. Especially since I paid the older one before we even started. I am one of those functional drunks, I can walk and talk straight even when I am bombed, so I realize now that I must have been just silly drunk. So waking up, I started to get it on with the young one, who was just too hot to pass up. We started making out, and she obviously is new to the business because she was enjoying it as much as I was. The older one at some point woke up and left, which I was OK with me, as at this point I just wanted to ravage the younger one. It was very passionate, and really great. She gave me a nice bbbj and I did a little daty. Again, not something I would normally do, but she was so seemingly young and pure, and I was still shitfaced, so it seemed like a great idea at the time. She wanted me to give it to her without a condom, but I was adament. But because of how drunk I was I was having a hard time reaching completion, so I ended up pulling off the condom. Stupid, I know. In the end it was spectacular, but in the end I learned something important:

1) Don't mix drunkenness with P4P; you only set yourself up for a rip-off, and potentially making choices that will get you infected or a paternity issue.
2) Don't go hog wild the first night; survey the scene and act cool.
3) If your a western foreigner, you're a mark. All prices can be negotiated heavily. I was a perfect example of how a stupid, drunk American can be fleeced.

All in all I had a great time that night, and don't rue all the money that I spent, but I could have done it smarter.

So I spent the next day recuperating in the hotel. I didn't leave the room once; I just surveyed the damage the girls did to the minibar. It was razed like Moscow during Napoleon's invasion.

I checked out and went to the Presidente, which will *always* be my first choice from here on out. Decent rooms and rates, great staff, good restaurant, and great location. Only problem is they limit you to one girl at a time, but after my first night I went into discretion mode and didn't take any girls into the hotel as I was also angling girls who worked in the hotel. They all thought I was a nice American boy as they never saw me with a pro. Instead I spent my time at the Zona Blue, which is a five minute walk from the Presidente.

Zona Blue is a hotel that only rents rooms on a monthly basis and only to the girls. The girls pay them a monthly rent and a second tenant 'penalty' whenever they have a customer. It is in this technicality that they avoid the pimping laws. It has a nice sauna and steam room, and while a little run down it is undergoing renovations that should do a lot for it. Plus it has free internet and internet phone to the U.S. What I liked best was how comfortable I was in the place; Wanda and her hubby are very hospitable and I was pleasantly welcomed. I was brought into the back room where the girls were watching the Olympics, all of them were 5-8's, I picked a 7 with nice top ballast and went off for a tour. We then went to her room where I was told $55/hour, which is more than I had read. "Rates go up honey, they are set by the house". Whatever, I can afford it. The hour was great, not hurried, wonderfull massage, great BBBJ, and spectacular sex. I just laid back and had a great time as she did all the work. While I later saw some stunners in the back room durinig return visits, I only went back to see this girl exclusively several times; she speaks no english so fortunately I was able to get by with my spanish. Typical story, twin boys at home with her mom who doesn't know what she does for a living. I tipped her $20 here and there as 'uno regalo para sus hijos' and this really helped with her motivation. A lot of people wonder why I would go to a place such as Zona Blue and always pick the same girl, but I find that the service always gets better when you take the time to establish a relationship with the girl. The first time was great, but the bbbj's just only got better once she got comfortable with me. Oh my did they get better! I went to the Zona Blue four times, spent maybe $300 total, and had one of the most relaxed, non-rushed, and well-serviced P4P epxeriences ever.

After the 'massage' she took me into the steamer, where she rubbed me down and rubbed me off (wonderful!). Don't worry guys, they keep the place clean and she used her towel to avoid any mess. It was nice to see her running around naked as she had used her only towel to accomodate me. Ahh... it was great!

One other thing; the area lost power/water due to some construction problem in the sauna; I had gotten laid but still not the steam I wanted. Wanda took care of that by comping me a session the next day. All I had to do was ask.

I never went to Del Rey, and only stopped by the Key Largo. Key Largo is *full* of chicks anywhere from 4-9, and if you're looking for P4P to take to your room you could spend your entire vacation banging girl after girl and still have girls left over. Not my scene at the time, as I had what I needed at ZB, but next vacation I may try it.

Funny story; I met a couple of American latinas from Los Angeles that were coming back from Nicaragua with the Peace Corps or something. They had booked themselves overnight in the Del Rey with absolutlely no idea it was a brothel. Being ethnically mexican they were always being stopped by security and propositioned by the customers. What a great laugh we had over that one.

The Monkey Bar across the street from Del Rey has opportunities. The bartenders seem to be former workers at the D.R. who are open to side deals and I went out one night with one of them to the 'Pueblo' which is a killer night club complex that the locals go to. There is booty to be had there, including P4P, and the prices seemed to be lower. I ended up getting hammered again though and cock-blocking myself... lol. Make some local friends and head there and try your luck.

Bottom line:

1. Dont get drunk when cruising for P4P
2. Stay out of strip clubs unless you want to pay 500% more for a slightly hotter girl and can afford to spend $500 or more.
3. ZB is a safe bet with predictable prices; you can sample all the girls or revisit one for a GFE.
4. New Fantsay appears to be gone for good.
5. Knowing some spanish is not necessary but highly recommended. I have a non-pro novia I met there in one of the restaurants I plan on seeing in December (though I still plan on going back to ZB).

Happy hunting, -J

[Rebel Monger]

Johan007 wrote: Prostitution is not allowed (unless you live in Las vegas...)

That's incorrect, prostitution is illegal in Las Vegas!

[TX Horn]

I'm new to posting but I have enjoyed reading your reports on CR. I'll be traveling there in January for 5 days of mongering. I've mainly done my damage in the US and Mexico, but reading these reports the last month or so has sold me on CR. I'd like to have your best recomendation on "girl friendly" housing near the SW's and BM and AMP's. By the way if anyone will be there the week of Jan. 15 let me know.

[Sigue]

I found that $55 was the lowest I could push it it for 1-2 hrs take-out at the DR; and I speak Spanish pretty well and get complements on my appearance. Maybe I'm not trying hard enough??

So Johan and Dinoman, are you really paying only $20-$40 at the DR? If yes, what are your negotiating secrets? If not, then where would you go to find DR quality girls for that amount (or less)?

[Comanche]

Am going to be in SJ on 10/6 for a week. If any fellow mongers are going to be there during that week, would be glad to meet up. Have been going there for over 10 years, and pretty well know the ropes. Would be happy to give advice or directions.

Eat breakfast each morning at News Cafe at Presidente hotel, but stay elsewhere. Have a favorite hotel, that is quiet and very nice, but may be too pricey for some. But always eat breakfast between 8:30 and 9:00 each morning and usually try to sit by street so can watch the people walk by.

Hope to see some bretheren while there.

Comanche

[Johan007]

Hi Dinoman,

just had to respond to your posting here. Agree with you 100%.
I myself also overpaid hookers when I started to monger. Even up as a few years ago I was dumb enough to pay 50 Deutsch Mark/hour to a hooker in Poland (back in 1995..!) when the average income of a trained worker was 100 DM a MONTH!!!!!!Sure she was damn pretty....but did she perform good?? Dont think so...
So indeed you're right....when I read what some guys pay...OOO Boy. Especialy Argentina,Brasil,Russia and also in Venezuela men overpay women greatly. This also would be the case in CR in some places (Del rey Hotel???).
Sure you can think I pay 100 bucks an hour and I will have prime pussy....Forget it. The women will think you are a sucker and will treat you accordingly. This has nothing to do with being cheap. Like I said before....it would be the same as if I paid in Holland a hooker € 500,- an hour!!! Crazy...nobody does that here. I understand why in USA the prices are so high. That is because of the legal system. Prostitution is not allowed (unless you live in Las vegas...) and the whole SEX thing is WAY overestimated esp. by US women. They realy make a BIG deal out of it. Latinas don't....!!

If you look anyway decent (that is as in clean,shaven,nice clothes,NOT drunk and above all friendly) and try to speak spanish (or Portugese when you are in Brasil) women will like you even more. Sure in every country you will find clockwatchers,thieves or hookers that will give a LOUSY service....

Also I found out that high priced hookers are NOT usualy mean better sex. NO SIR.....I found the best sex sometimes with SW...and the likes...5 bucks for an hour (I paid that in Brasil)..and they were HOT.....as a firecracker.

Sure if you like a very classy,snobby ho with an attitude...just stay in the US (or in some other European countries)...and pay 250 bucks an hour. I will save my pennies for the latinas!!!!

OO btw I do NOT understand you guys that are banging (and paying big time $$$) for RUSSIAN hookers in Costa Rica???????????? That doesn't make sense to me. It is the same as you go to a Chinese restaurant and you try to order a pizza....LOL.

I make a decent living and do not complain about my assets,but I think it is a damn waiste of $$$$ to pay nearly a MONTHS wages for a hooker that I could fuck for 1-2 hours in such a country. Also I think that would RUIN the market for all other mongers that come after me.

OOOOO yes...please do flame me.(I have new flamproof underwear!)


my 2 € cents


Johan.

[Dinoman]

Hi all you sluts in fuckland.
I am home in the USA after 4 months in Costa Rica. I will be back about DEC. 15. I have been to Colombia 7-8 times I had a girlfriend there so I did not monger that much. But I can say that you can get girls in Costa Rica for little or no money and you can travel anywhere in the country and be as safe as in the USA. Costa Rica is a Mecca for woman they come from Columbia, Nicaragua, Panama, Dominican Republic, Costa Rica and other Latin countries. They go to CR. because it is safe and there are more Americans than anywhere in Latin America. They are lured by the promise of big $$$ from us the Mongers of the world. What spoils it for some of us is that men will give the sluts to much money. Yes, they will ask for $100. but offer them 5000c or $12 you can get laid all over San Jose for that. And they Know this even if they say different. The chances are you will not take them to your room for $12 but it is possible I have. If you start at that price you will find they will be clad to go with you for $20-$40 for 1 or 2 hours. Any more than that and you are overpaying. I have spent some time with some of the members in CR. and I am sure that they can tell you the same. The way that the Latinos think if you spend big $$$ for sex you either stupid or hard up either way they will take advantage of you. You will find that the best sex in Latin America is the cheapest sex. I am not saying to take an ugly girl I am saying take the hottest and pay her no more than $25 she will give it up. I know that when your In San Jose for a week and these beautiful woman want to fuck you for $100 it seems like a bargain but you are doing yourself an injustice. Try it you will find that you will save $$$ and the sex will be better. Make sure you let them know that you know that sex is cheep in San Jose.
Dinoman

[Scott69]

The New Fantasy has reopened but I have not been there yet to see what it is like. The nightclub Flamango and Casablanca have reopened with new owners. If I hear what it is like I will post it.

[Cyido]

Hey fellow DFW mongers,

I am heading to the greatness that is Costa Rica, 10/3 to 10/12. Will be at the Presidente, no girl fee and free breakfast. 2nd trip this year, 3rd overall. Is the NF closed? I've been check out the chat and noticed a few that mentioned it being closed. Also liked the Zona Blue and the other spot, pink building with jacuzzi's, same street. Love the DR, always in negotiations, noticed that the Colon is $447 per 1, last time it was $390 or so. Will be dealing mostly in Colons this trip.

[Jun Fan]

MM~

Colombia is pretty damn good. Colombia is the Motherland. I went down there and married a young hottie from Barranquilla....I think I have been to Colombia 8 times or so. I think I know a thing or two about Colombia.

For me at this point, Costa Rica is fun because it is a low stress, easy in-and-out place. Part of that is due to the ease of getting there from DFW. While I never had any problems in Colombia, Costa Rica is just a better place to hang out in terms of overall safety.

[Master Monger]

Hey Guys,

Key Largo opens at 8pm and Closes at 3am.

Colombia is best :-)

Suerte,

Travieso

[Cape Cod]

Key Largo opens between 6-8pm & closes around 4am

[Blind Lust]

Blind Man's Boff - Some Notes

Is "nica" an insult to Nicaraguans living in Costa Rica? The answer is, yes or no, depending upon one's tone of voice and facial expression. Illegal Nicaraguan immigration is blamed for most of C.R.'s crime and social ills by most ticos; the rhetoric I heard from many people sounded very familiar; like Americans bitching about Mexicans. If "nica" is said with a scowl and pronounced as "niggah," it will certainly be taken as an insult.

True to reports on this Forum, taxi drivers are clueless about their own city, even though they have to take a street geography test as part of getting their taxi license. In other words, you'd better damn well know where you're going, because the taxista probably will not. Make them use the meter. Period. Cabbies in the Gringo Gulch area may or may not speak some English; we encountered several who did.

SJO is not an all-night party town, and most bars close at around midnight-1:00 a.m. El Pueblo to the north of the Centro is an exception. Try "Luka's" there for excellent food.

Speak Spanish. Many young ticos, particularly those working in hospitality will speak some English, but most of the chicas do not. Although many of them understand much more English than they speak, it's a good idea to speak at least some Spanish.

Use colones whenever possible, and learn to calculate quickly, or carry a calculator. We found that we paid much less by using colones than dollars.

Marijuana is easy to get, but most vendors will try to sell it at U.S. prices, up to $400.00/ounce. One guy in Quepos tried to sell me 10 grams for $400.00, claiming that 10 grams equals one ounce. Wrong. In any case, avoid drugs at all costs while in C.R. The legal risks are many, and at the very least, you'll pay mega-morditas (big bribes) and do some real jail time if you are caught.

Costa Rica may be the cleanest country I've ever visited, as applied to restaurants, restrooms, cabs and public places. Even the busy News Cafe's men's room was spotless on a Sunday night.

Not all street wh*res are transvestites. We spotted four hotties on a street corner a block from the Colonial Casino, and one of them flashed her p**sy at the cabbie to let him know that she was female. Danger! She was also maybe 15 or so.

Again, we encountered a large number of gringos who were acting like drunken, juvenile assholes. Please behave the way your Mama taught you; be patient, polite and respectful. Remember that many ticos loathe prostitution and many will be offended if you ask them about the p4p scene here. That being said, everyone from cops to waiters in the Gulch are aware that you're probably not in C.R. to see rain forests, and a politely-asked question will be politely answered.

Bring washcloths, if you use them. Even the finest hotels in which we stayed didn't have them. Bring your own condoms; the Durex brand commonly available in C.R. are too narrow for the average gringo "picha." Pretty much anything else you could need or want is available for purchase.

Travel light. Choose what you want to bring, then pack half of it. laundry service is widely available and not expensive, booze is available at somewhat lower prices than in the U.S., etc.

Purchase your exit tax (currently U.S.$26.00) either at the airport near Immigration or downtown at a number of banks. Don't wait until you're ready to leave to buy your exit tax. We could have bought ours at the airport the morning we left; there was no real waiting line, but we were told that long lines at the airport are the rule, rather than the exception. Better to buy it upon your arrival.

The most important tip I can offer the first-time visitor to C.R. is "relax". The pace of life is slower here; a dinner in a fine restaurant can take up to three hours, so just go with the flow and savor the time spent. Even a cup of coffee at 4:00 p.m. is a treasured social custom and "time out," so don't rush it. You'll find as I did, that most of the chicas pace themselves accordingly, so don't be a clock-watcher, just make love. I was never hassled for taking too much time with a girl during any of my three p4p experiences in C.R.

Have fun, and "pura vida!"

[Blind Lust]

Blind Man's Boff - Part 6 - Final visit to ZB

We were forced to extend our stay in Costa Rica because of bad weather over Pensacola, and returned to the Hotel Don Carlos for the final four nights. Among other Gulch locations, we had a very good dinner at the News Cafe. During our meal, my female companion discreetly pointed out a number of middle-aged gringos accompanied by lovely young women. She observed that the chicas were definitely uncomfortable, constantly sweeping the room with their eyes, watchful of being seen themselves. One particularly hot Dominicana caught my companion s eye, and I wished at that moment to be able to see, to close a deal, to spend ST with a hot, black chica (a first for me). Sigh. After dinner and buying overpriced cigarettes at the bar ($2.00 U.S. for a pack of marlboros), we grabbed a metered cab back to our hotel.

Tourism occupied our next couple days, but I did manage to return to Zona Blue. Again, I was hoping that my CRT membership card had arrived. Again, it had not. I would like to hear from anyone else who has had problems with ************** in this regard. They got $36.00 of my money, for which they promised "V.I.P. access" to their board, and a discount card. Well, I finally met one of the administrators of CRT, who gave me a rather lame excuse as to why my card wasn't there. Keep in mind that CRT (Relaciones Interactivas, Inc. of Florida) had nearly two weeks prior to my trip, plus the 12 days I was in C.R., to deliver the card). Wanda was again friendly and helpful (what a woman! Jaimito Cartero, you are a lucky S.O.B. to have enjoyed her charms)! I gave her a strange request: Who is the smartest girl here? She chose the skinny Marcella for me. All I can say is...holy sh*t! Incredible, passionate hour. I love her flat tummy, perfect titties and gentle, hot ways. This was an hour that I will never forget. YMMV, of course, but Marcella really did it for me. One problem: Wanda needs to figure out background music in her place. When I entered Marcella's room for the session, "Blues Traveler" was on the stereo, not bad. However, mid-session the CD changed to "The Kenny G. Christmas Album." Do you know how hard it is to stay hard while listening to a soprano-sax rendition of "The Little Drummer Boy!?" Pah-rum-pa-pum-pum. Again, a first-rate experience, and at the discounted 17K colones, a good deal, despite the Kenny G.

The blues have set in, my brothers. I have a strong feeling that I will not pass this way again, and Costa Rica will live only in my memory. Thanks for all the valuable information and patience you have shown me.

Cocqui', Shamas, Tanager, J.C., Ace, WillySP...you guys are the best.

BL

[Blind Lust]

Blind Man's Boff - part 5 - More Saturday night explorations with my tico pal.

We did indeed get stopped by the "operativos" on Av. 2, but my pal's good humor, organized papers and excellent Spanish saved us from any unpleasantness. The cops were super-courteous and even friendly. Our next stop was the Key largo.

Apparently shocked by the presence of a blind dude (we only encountered one other blind person during the entire trip, and she was leaving the country), the doorman at the Key Largo never charged us a cover. The band was excellent, playing covers of current Latin hits. The K.L. is immense, and it was loaded with hot chicas wall-to-wall. Some even slyly grabbed my ass or package as we walked through the bar (and no, they weren't going for my wallet, well at least not _that_ way). Tico pal told me that the uglier girls end up in the KL, because it's less illuminated than the BM (which is an amazingly brightly-lit room). Found nothing of real interest, so we moved across the street to the Blue Marlin.

My tico pal seemed to know half the women in the bar by name. I met the infamous Colombian sisters, a lovely tica named Nikki and several others. I also handed out samples of edible, fruit-flavored lube as a joke, but the girls who received the tiny samples thanked me. With the edge taken off by my hour with Jeni at Bar Item, I was in no hurry to score at the BM, but I did discuss price with a couple girls. None seemed willing to budge from the $80.00 - 100.00 range. Tico pal informed me that one can arrange for a two-hour room at the Morazan for around U.S. $20.00; this is good to know if you're staying outside the Gulch but need a short-time room. This may also explain why the Morazan is notoriously bad at holding reservations.

My tico pal explained to me that many of the other clubs and houses listed in this Forum are just too damned dangerous, even for a tico (and he's a pretty tough guy himself). He said that he would only visit some of the nightclubs (Pantera Rosa, VIPs, Molino Rojo, Monaco) in a group of four or more guys. We ended our tour with a final drink downtown, then he took me back to my hotel. All in all, an excellent introduction for a blind guy's first visit to SJO.

Still more to come.

BL