2004 Rio de Janeiro Reports

[Damaja]

Great advice....

What nightclubs and restaurants do any guys suggest to visit for picking up non-pros?? Does Rio or Ipanema have any major shopping area (like a Mall) where many non-pro women congrugate to shop like here in America?? Are there party nights that are more bustling than others (like here in the States, with Fridays & Saturdays), or is any day of the cool?

Oh yeah....cellphones. What are the going daily rates for cellphone rentals....including calls to the US?

I know this is like 20 questions, but this should tie up the final loose end questions which have been on my mind on how to plan for the trip.

Thanks guys....

[Doc Bill]

Take a lesson from Nvr2L8, guys, that's how it's done!

[Gatorman]

Amen again. When a girl asks 400r, 300r its like she is asking are you stupid? Are you desperate? I don't care if it is their high season 200r is still a lot of money there--almost a typical month's salary for most people. There are too many other options like termas or escort services at a decent price to give in to that bullshit. Most times if you stick to your offer price the girl you want will get reasonable rather than go home to their bunk bed barracks empty handed. Dudes, be a man and don't get p-whipped in the girls a plenty land of Rio.

[Truant]

There are several very hot Help girls who are very jaded (spoiled) and who have been to Europe (London, Zurich, and Barcelona) and think since they were making 500-1000 euros a night there, they can charge 400-500 Reis at Help. They stick to their price and don't negotiate. They stay at Help until the wee hours and walk away if they don't get their price that night, living off their European earnings until the right sucker (who will pay 500 Reis), comes along. Avoid these hotties at all cost, not just because they are overpriced, but also because they end up being a bad experience as well. For instance, refuse DFK, BBBJ, or shorten the session for any imaginable reason.

They are bad news, and will ruin a Rio experience when it can be so good with a less experienced girl.

Buyer Beware!

[Nvr2L8]

And yet another amen...

I've been here in Rio for over a month now, and I have yet to pay 300 Reais for a girl, even for the Penelope Cruz look-alike I found in Help. When you consider that you can get laid for R$1 per minute in many of the grungier downtown termas, R$300 should only be paid to a true superstar (and those of you familiar with the term "microspinner" know what I mean.)

Two nights ago, while I was sitting at Terrific Asslantico, a garota approached and asked to sit down. She was kinda cute, loira, with really fair features. She started by asking R$400. After I finished wiping the tears of laughter from my eyes, I told her that I hadn't paid more than R$200 for anyone at T.A. or in Help. She said R$300. I ignored her. She said, "Ok, duzentos ta bom." I smiled, and started talking to my friends. Finally, she whispered to me "Duas horas, cem reais." It turned out she was a real winner for those two hours, and R$100 was a bargain.

Just remember, guys, only _you_ can prevent garota de programa inflation.

[Doc Bill]

AMEN Ken! The reason they charge so much is that there are enough foreign fools who pay it. This only drives up prices for all of us and in Rio, land of pussy galore, this is completely unnecessary. Just walk away and find someone else. Go to a terma. Even if I had the money and didn't care I'd still feel a sense of duty to my colleaugues on this board to keep prices reasonable in the given culture. If you had any idea how much 300R really was there you'd see how crazy you'd be to pay it!

[Kenn]

If they are willing to walk away for less than 300.reais "LET THEM WALK".... People have been saying they are asking too much for many years... If you refuse to pay that kind of price and they go home alone, often enough, they will start to negotiate...

[Rabo Verde]

This is the high season in Rio, and most of the hot Help girls are INSISTING on 300R (about $110) and will walk away for less, even if you are handsome and know how to negotiate. This IS ridiculous, and is more than the monthly salary of many poor Brazilians, but once you have gone halfway around the world to get there, it is hard to argue over the extra money...

I also want to suggest to newbies, you may want to stay in Ipanema which is 10 times nicer and safer than Copacabana, has lots of great restaurants and is only a $3, 10 minute cab ride to Copa. Why shit where you eat? LOL It is like the difference between Manhattan and Brooklyn.

VM is about 20 mins by cab from Copa and is a truly grungy place, a whole different world from the luxury of Help or the Termas-- "It´s the third world afffffter all....."

[Macgoo]

Damaja,

I have been reading the dialog here recently and have started to wonder if you're diminishing the joy of the trip. It seems that you are fishing for too much of a fix on price. My recommendation would be to use the experienced brethrens' advice as basic guidelines within which you do your own "negotiating". Who knows; the Mack in you just might be enough to get the hottest ladies; pros and non-pros alike -- for less $R or none at all.

Moreover, based on what I have discerned; you will do a "bang-up" job in Brazil; as long as you don't, "... throw water on a baby".

Have fun, and take some good fotos for those of us that are sick and shut in!

Ez

[Rus Luv]

Damaja,

You will pay 20R for 20 minutes at V.M. The conditions are not that great but have a few drinks and you will be ok. It is located in Central. It's about 25 minutes by cab from Copa. This depends on what time you go. Sometimes traffic is bad. Even if you don't participate in any extra activities you should go down there and have a couple of beers just to see what's going on. On a good night you will see hundreds of girls. Some good and some not so good. But you will see some winners. I had a couple of 10's down there. But remember the rooms are really small and uncomfortable. But it will be a good ideal to check it out. You won't see any tourist down there. This is the spot for the locals. I'm going to Rio April 2. I can't wait. I have Brasil on the brain.

[Damaja]

Thanks Sperto,

From reading the reports (2004's and 2003's), I got the impression 300R was on the high side, but to each their own. It's really kinda hard to put a "price" on a good time, but it's human nature for people to try to get away with as much as you'll let them.

I was reading about VM. How far away is it by taxi from Copa beach? How much should I expect to pay for the girls there?

The conditions look pretty shitty, and probably not something I want to do on my first visit, but I know my adventurous side will probably get the best of me to atleast check it out anyway.

Later

[Sperto]

I´m surprised that some gringos are willingly to pay the girls up to 300 reais. What´s the reason to overpay them?

This makes the girls trying to overcharge other gringos.

Regardless if I buy a t-shirt or pay a girl I would feel foolish paying three times as much as necessary.

I rather spend 300 reais on 12 girls at Vila Mimosa. Could be fun lining them up next to each other.... : )

[CaptainNemo]

I went to Baronneti of Ipanema on a Sat night by my hotel’s recommendation for normal girls. My buddy and I paid for R$65 each. This includes R$60 drink something. Girls pay for R$35. There were not many good-looking girls that night. Tried to make eye contact with several girls without success. 2 girls seem to be interested in us. However, one is too skinny and the other’s ass is too big. We took a pass.

By 1:30AM, we decided to hit Help for the sure thing. When we left, there are a lot of people waiting to get in the club.

[Paolino]

@ damaja: Tyrone Hill? dunno that guy, but i'm from Europe so basketball isn't quite my cup of tea; with such a name he only can be black, so you gotta be a brotha too

I was pretty lucky to find some freelancers on the other end of Copacabana (between the hotels Copacabana Palace and Meridien)...a beachfront bar called Balcony, there's lotsa fun places in the neighbouring streets behind it too but i don't remember any names. As far as i'm concerned you can find freelancers outside of Help at the restaurant (i was always lucky), but don't ask me about Help...

cheers

[Langer]

Picked up a little brown honey in the internet cafe near Leme today. She was at the computer beside me sending emails and looking at pictures of her boyfriend in Canada and I got her number, and asked her how much for a hour in a local hotel she said 200 reals. After a bit of bargaining I agreed R$150 which is a high price for the daytime but she was young 20, pretty face, big DD tits and a small ass, just the way I like it. Her name was Thaisa.

Anyway of we go to the hotel Lido $R35 for a couple of hours. First I fuck her and she gives me a BBBJ and I lob some love juice into her mouth (she had a great tounge stud). Later we cuddled and kissed on the bed. Then I´m fucking away with her on top and her phone rings, it is her boyfriend! She gets up turns off the porno TV and takes the call. ¨Hi baby, I´m at the beach...I love you, kisses..I no kiss other man.. you go sleep now¨, etc. He is in the US on his way to Canada and he is ringing her to tell her he loves her, one born everyday!

After the call we resumed and I finished off with a good anal session. Earlier she was complaining her bunda ¨ass¨ was to small, well it is a bit bigger now ;-)

Good session, nice girl, you can meet her in the internet cafe most days around 13:00 - 15:00

One thing, she was so lazy she wanted to get a taxi 2 blocks to the hotel, and after to the beach!! As it was daytime I said no lets walk more time to chat and get to know one another.
After the hotel, she asked me to go to the beach with her but I didn´t have the time as I wanted to get to Luomo for 5 and had some stuff to do. Also didn´t want to be her meal ticket all day at the beach.