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  1. #6637
    Agreed with that, but the problem with the AMP places are you've usually invested a bit of cash into the venture before you get to the negotiation. I went to the same of MrK's recommendations as the other poster (near the pizza hut), and if I recall correctly they wanted 250 for 90 minutes thai massage at the counter.

    Have been twice. First visit was with a Thai, started at 700 dhs for one shot in 90 minutes, after some back and forth she ended up at 400 for 1 shot, 500 for two, but said we'd enjoy the full 90 minutes. Took the second option. Too much I'm sure, but very good service including great (and very long) OWO on both rounds. Even massage was decent.

    Second visit was a Moroccan, booked 1 HR. Extremely limited English and I have no Arabic so negotiation was hard. I had left the tip on the table (though 300 instead of 200 in a bid to short circuit the negotiation). 10 minutes of rubbish massage then extras offered. She was adamant that she wouldn't budge from 800 for FS or 500 for B2B and BJ. 300 for HJ only. I wasn't interested in the HJ and had already invested 250 at the counter so it was either 250 for blue balls or pay what I knew was over the odds. In the end the little head decided, and after a lot of back and forth ended up at 650 for FS. She was reasonably attractive and claimed to be 20 years old, but service was very mediocre. 2 minutes of average OWO, various positions all in an unenthusiastic manner, finished up and still had 20 minutes left in the hour. Then she just proceeded to pull the cover off the bed and start getting dressed. Couldn't bother arguing the point so took my cue to leave. If I return to that place perhaps I will avoid the Moroccans and learn some lessons from the masters on negotiation tactics.

    Quote Originally Posted by FantasticMax  [View Original Post]
    Indeed, the most powerful tool in negotiating is being willing to walk away. I just did this same move with an incall apartment girl. We chatted on WA, but price was never mentioned, which is a pretty rookie mistake for her. I brought what I was comfortable paying, plus a small tip amount if she really blew me away. I walked into her place, sat down on a lounge chair and popped my shoes off. She then asked me to pay first, which I was happy to do. I pulled out the money I had brought and extended it to her telling her the amount, but she looked at it and frowned and told me that it would cost 800, which was much higher. I didn't argue or get upset, because there's no need for that. I simply told her that was far too much, placed my cash back into my wallet, sat back down and put my shoes on. I told her it was no big deal, but that I didn't want to pay 800. She tried to tell me that I agreed to 800, but I told her we never discussed price, assured her I wasn't upset and kept motioning towards the door to leave. As I was about to leave she slashed the price in half, which was still higher than what I offered. I held firm and she agreed to the original amount.

    It's hard to be willing to walk away, as it does indeed hold the potential to waste your time, but it's important for price maintenance nonetheless. Imagine if I agreed to pay that 800, loved my time with the girl, and then had to pay that every time I went to see her? No thanks. The walk away is a gamble, but one that pays off incredibly well. Just as it holds the potential to waste your time, so too does it waste the girl's time. She'd rather make some money in her time than none. This is especially true at massage places. There's nothing a working girl hates more than giving an hour or longer massage and not getting the real money at the end. She doesn't want to waste an hour and an entire client slot just to make no real money.

    As for not getting the experience you wanted. Well, that's often how it goes. Sure, it would be great if every girl was really into us and loved being fucked by us, but an unenthusiastic blowjob is still better than jerking off at home. Well, mostly. Sex work is no different than any other kind of service job, some people provide outstanding experiences warranting praise and good compensation, others not so much. That's quite literally the point of places like this though, to help people weed out the good, the mediocre, and the bad. Be sure to reach out to your trusted associates here and get recommendations for the good, but also be sure to specify your exact needs.

    Better luck next time.

  2. #6636
    My 2 c on the quality at 49 ers, Trap etc.

    I was at Trap at Dana a while back with a friend, our maiden visit to the place so was not too sure what to expect. Sat for a while and didn't see much of interest, but we were relatively early, so just had a few drinks. Got chatting to a bouncer and he asked if anything we liked, told him no and that I'd tip him if he brought me someone I liked as the girls started to come in. Maybe 45 mins he brought over a Kyrg who was indeed probably the hottest in the place, but still a 6. 5 - 7 out of 10 at best, late 30's, tipped the bouncer. Chatted for a while but was hoping to do better so took her Whatsapp number then walked to 49 ers for a look. Got a table there, didn't see much of interest. Quite a few EE girls, but none particularly attractive and most looked to be in a bit of a mood (not very welcoming etc). We went and sat to speak to one table with two girls for 10 minutes or so, but I could tell from the interaction that the deed would not be good if I took one. Ended up texting the Kyrg who came to join us at 49 ers for a drink and then stayed the night until late morning. Six reds, which included access to all areas. Have repeated with same girl once since. Long story short, didn't see a great deal of quality at 49 ers but this was just based off one night. So could have been great the next week.

    Quote Originally Posted by Nickc  [View Original Post]
    Hey thanks for info. NG and Romain.

    Updated as below.

    My thought is I stay LE Royal Meridian or Howard J. And Stick to Illusions and Uzbeck club on Howard J. And Taxi To Dana and Capital Hotel clubs.

    Very little info on "Illusions" on here? Is there reason for that? Is it over priced?

    Ta Nickc.

    - 'Khorosho' at Dana Hotel, on the penthouse level, comes alive 10-12 PM, different nationalities, some Russian. 100 to get in which gets you 2 drink tokens.

    - 'The Trap' at Dana hotel on the mezzanine. Mostly African, sometimes central Asians, I. E. Kazaks, Azerbaijanis. Opens at 7 PM these days.

    - '49 ers' at LE Meridian. Moved here recently. Not to many posts on quality of girls.

    - 'Captains Arms' at LE Meridian. Seperate club and entrance.

    - 'Rockbottom Cafe' / Club, at Al Dair Capitol. Sometimes good quality.

    - 'Uzbek bar' at Howard Johnson Hotel top floor. Also has ground floor bar but little information on that.

    - 'Cyclone' at Novel Hotel. Was Mecure. Blitz was here. Good source for Asian girls. Low quality EE.

    - 'Goodfellas' bar at Sheraton. Some girls outside to).

    - 'Illusions' at LE Royal Meridian appears good quality but little information. Also has O'Reilly's Irish Pub, and rooftop lounge Stratos. Are they worth a look to?

    - Southern Sun hotel is central super green. Maybe worth staying there.

  3. #6635
    That's impressive. In my cases, the agents are Arabs and girls are Moroccan. Agents ask for live location and hotel card before sending photos and quoting 500-600 per shot or 700-800 per 2 shots. When I reverse search the photos, I find most of the photos on Twitter. Some photos are couple years old and are used in Dubai and other Emirates by other agents. Agents usually refuse to send a customized photo or a verification video. The result is that I never used their service. I don't know but may be they send fake photos because I'm new to them!

    So now I understand the following from you:

    - 1 shot equals 1 hour but I need to confirm.

    - it's possible to negotiate two hours for 600.

    But how did you find your contacts? Clubs, Twitter?

    One more question please, can girls reach the room without registering their ID on my room?

    Given your prices, outcall is better. The issue is how to get your prices.

    Quote Originally Posted by MrKrisps  [View Original Post]
    You I did say 2 hour 500 Arab outcall. With good service.

    I take from 4 agents in AUH. They all know each other. Sometime competing with each other. But their crop of girls are NEVER over lapping. I know some are guys who are just sharing the pics and then reaching out to the madam saying they have a client. Doesn't matter to me. If they try to shaft me with a higher quote I just say the names of the other providers and they immediately know they have to convert or they lose a client. They almost 95% of the time will say they will need the name of the hotel and the photo of the room card. This is to make sure you are genuine.

    They always try to quote by hour. The trick is that you quote by the shot. Which is you say two shots which means two hours. Confirm the time only after you confirm on the girl. Plainly say if the girl is different she will be sent home. Also all the girls will either be Maroc or Syr..

  4. #6634
    Quote Originally Posted by TheBigBangBoo  [View Original Post]
    Yes, we are chatting on WhatsApp.

    She is from Angola. Attaching pics for reference.

    I read your report and was planning to go the spa in RR Apts since you have already reviewed the place. I called the place to check about the availability of the spa but no one seems to pick the call. Is EID required while visiting the spa?
    This looks like photos from the West, probably USA.

    Ask for a video call or a personalized pic. Easy to catch them out and if she creates a fuss then she isn't very user friendly in the first place innit. Genuine girls have no hassles sharing non nudes or video.

  5. #6633
    I've done an incall with African girls from Tinder 3 times, with a disappointing experience every time. However, I didn't get robbed / beaten up by a gang so I was definitely not disappointed there.

    A) The first time, I got a location in Sharjah. I happened to have work in Nahda anyway so the drive wasn't too bad. However, the apartment, while spacious, was clearly old, somewhat smelly and all the furniture was crappy. The service was mediocre at best.

    B) The second time was an apartment somewhere in International City with similar results.

    C) The third time was the craziest for me. The location was a villa near Mamzar, and when I got there there were random Africans all over the place, like 2 kids sitting and chatting outside, a guy sleeping in the garden, etc. She'd told me to go up the stairs and to a specific room, and I walked past 3-5 more African girls and guys on the way up thinking "is this where I finally get robbed?" but it must have just been an overstuffed shared villa because they just looked at me, the only non-African within 100 meters and then went on with whatever they were doing.

    Again, the service sucked. Someone was knocking on the door at one point and she had to get up in between to go talk to them.

    I don't remember how much I paid for each of those because this is approx 5 years ago but it was definitely in the 250-400 region at most, and yeah I kept nothing but the agreed-upon amount on me when I went in and left my wallet in the car. In all cases, the girls themselves were reasonably close to their online photos. I went with them rather than a bunch of other profiles because their photos appeared the most genuine, but yeah back then I used to feel more adventurous and ready to take a bit of risk. Now, I try and stick to profiles on MR with reviews and nice apartments

    Personally, even though Asian girls aren't my thing as much as white or black, I just keep going back to them because the service (particular GFE) is generally better. It doesn't seem to matter whether I'm generous or bargain a lot, or first time visit or repeat.

  6. #6632
    Quote Originally Posted by MrKrisps  [View Original Post]
    I don't agree with AUHHumble's opinion about a video call.

    She most prolly will disagree.

    Check if the photos look like it was taken in a villa or a standard apartment or at least in the streets in UAE.

    If the pics looks taken in a it looks like a high end place with modern fittings. It's fake.

    Also move the conversation to whatsapp.

    If she says she is from a non African country. Walk away.

    If she says that she is from a genuine country in the continent then meet with her because she is a girl willing to accept the place she is from and thus has a good attitude.

    The charges for a Ebony is 150 for once. And 200 for twice.

    You can also post the photos here for us to evaluate here.
    Yes, we are chatting on WhatsApp.

    She is from Angola. Attaching pics for reference.

    I read your report and was planning to go the spa in RR Apts since you have already reviewed the place. I called the place to check about the availability of the spa but no one seems to pick the call. Is EID required while visiting the spa?
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  7. #6631

    Matching with a black girl

    Quote Originally Posted by TheBigBangBoo  [View Original Post]
    I am not into African gals but I found a hot gal on tinder. She is quoting 3 reds for 1 hour. I tried reverse searching her image and didn't find the same match. How do I make sure this is not a scam and what are the precautions that I need to follow in such case? Her name is Lisa with curly hair and a great body, incase anyone else has matched with her.
    I don't agree with AUHHumble's opinion about a video call.

    She most prolly will disagree.

    Check if the photos look like it was taken in a villa or a standard apartment or at least in the streets in UAE.

    If the pics looks taken in a it looks like a high end place with modern fittings. It's fake.

    Also move the conversation to whatsapp.

    If she says she is from a non African country. Walk away.

    If she says that she is from a genuine country in the continent then meet with her because she is a girl willing to accept the place she is from and thus has a good attitude.

    The charges for a Ebony is 150 for once. And 200 for twice.

    You can also post the photos here for us to evaluate here.

  8. #6630
    Quote Originally Posted by Nickc  [View Original Post]

    Very little info on "Illusions" on here? Is there reason for that? Is it over priced?
    Illusions is with 49 ers one of the most documented places.

    Please, follow this thread a couple of years be. See. (before covid)

    You'll find info and more FR on it.

  9. #6629
    Ask her for a video call. If she refuses, forget it.

    Quote Originally Posted by TheBigBangBoo  [View Original Post]
    I am not into African gals but I found a hot gal on tinder. She is quoting 3 reds for 1 hour. I tried reverse searching her image and didn't find the same match. How do I make sure this is not a scam and what are the precautions that I need to follow in such case? Her name is Lisa with curly hair and a great body, incase anyone else has matched with her.

  10. #6628

    Found a gal on Tinder

    I am not into African gals but I found a hot gal on tinder. She is quoting 3 reds for 1 hour. I tried reverse searching her image and didn't find the same match. How do I make sure this is not a scam and what are the precautions that I need to follow in such case? Her name is Lisa with curly hair and a great body, incase anyone else has matched with her.

  11. #6627

    Illusions

    Quote Originally Posted by NiceGuy99  [View Original Post]
    Never seen an EE at Cyclone who wasn't past her expiration date. Good source for Asian girls. Bargain and be patient. Same place where Blitz was.
    Hey thanks for info. NG and Romain.

    Updated as below.

    My thought is I stay LE Royal Meridian or Howard J. And Stick to Illusions and Uzbeck club on Howard J. And Taxi To Dana and Capital Hotel clubs.

    Very little info on "Illusions" on here? Is there reason for that? Is it over priced?

    Ta Nickc.

    - 'Khorosho' at Dana Hotel, on the penthouse level, comes alive 10-12 PM, different nationalities, some Russian. 100 to get in which gets you 2 drink tokens.

    - 'The Trap' at Dana hotel on the mezzanine. Mostly African, sometimes central Asians, I. E. Kazaks, Azerbaijanis. Opens at 7 PM these days.

    - '49 ers' at LE Meridian. Moved here recently. Not to many posts on quality of girls.

    - 'Captains Arms' at LE Meridian. Seperate club and entrance.

    - 'Rockbottom Cafe' / Club, at Al Dair Capitol. Sometimes good quality.

    - 'Uzbek bar' at Howard Johnson Hotel top floor. Also has ground floor bar but little information on that.

    - 'Cyclone' at Novel Hotel. Was Mecure. Blitz was here. Good source for Asian girls. Low quality EE.

    - 'Goodfellas' bar at Sheraton. Some girls outside to).

    - 'Illusions' at LE Royal Meridian appears good quality but little information. Also has O'Reilly's Irish Pub, and rooftop lounge Stratos. Are they worth a look to?

    - Southern Sun hotel is central super green. Maybe worth staying there.

  12. #6626

    Hotels to stay in AUH

    Quote Originally Posted by Romain0775  [View Original Post]
    Last time I was there, "Captains Arms" was inside the hotel, but 49 ers has a separate entry from hotel.

    A former provider told me she is going to HJ hotel with her friends. I was not aware it is a "national bar". Is it worth to try?

    Rom.
    Okay so all the Arab girls are at Sofitel's arab Bar every time.

    They also frequent the Hotel Blu or Novotel on Corniche.

    Then it is the Hotel Diar.

    To stay I would either choose Southern Sun, the Sheraton Khalidiya, LE Royal Meredien.

    SS: Good quality, green. Bathroom has a tub with a complete a glass wall so watching them shower is fun Haven't visited the pub there (Can someone shed light) but good restaurants.

    Sheraton khalidiya: Green, because everyone knows it, there is goodfellas down there for a drink.

    HJ is for Black and Stani milfs.

    MK.

  13. #6625

    Confirmed. Outcall

    Quote Originally Posted by MrKrisps  [View Original Post]
    My post got truncated. Reposting.

    I wanted to write a report on what I thought about Outcalls.

    What do you guys think is my Math wrong?
    Quote Originally Posted by Xvoice  [View Original Post]
    Seriously? You find good Arabic girl for 2 hours for 500 from an agent??
    Agents usually ask for +500 for one hour and send fake photos. This was my experience!
    You I did say 2 hour 500 Arab outcall. With good service.

    I take from 4 agents in AUH. They all know each other. Sometime competing with each other. But their crop of girls are NEVER over lapping. I know some are guys who are just sharing the pics and then reaching out to the madam saying they have a client. Doesn't matter to me. If they try to shaft me with a higher quote I just say the names of the other providers and they immediately know they have to convert or they lose a client. They almost 95% of the time will say they will need the name of the hotel and the photo of the room card. This is to make sure you are genuine.

    They always try to quote by hour. The trick is that you quote by the shot. Which is you say two shots which means two hours. Confirm the time only after you confirm on the girl. Plainly say if the girl is different she will be sent home. Also all the girls will either be Maroc or Syr.

    If you try say one shot it becomes 500 but two shot for the first time is 600 (Now 500 for me). Never once did I get different girls. Also if you see an Arab provider chatting in English. Walk away. That is the true trademarks of a scam. Convo will always be in Arabic. Don't try to lie where you are from. They will find out using some apps.

    Remember to put the effort into soft talking the girl. Else don't blame the girl for blaming a wham bam thank you maa'am experience. For me every time after the first shot and I am snuggling. They have reached down put their head below the sheets because they want to get me ready for the 2nd. Never a running off not once.

    At Xvoice: Was the agent you chatted with in Arabic or English. Which nationality did they say the girl was?

    What do you guys think of my Math comparison for MP vs outcall? Agree / disagree.

  14. #6624
    Quote Originally Posted by Nickc  [View Original Post]
    ...

    - 'Captains Arms' at LE Meridian. Is this now 49 ers?

    Last time I was there, "Captains Arms" was inside the hotel, but 49 ers has a separate entry from hotel.

    Quote Originally Posted by Nickc  [View Original Post]
    - 'Uzbek bar' at Howard Johnson Hotel top floor. Also has ground floor bar but little information on that.

    Ta Nickc.
    A former provider told me she is going to HJ hotel with her friends. I was not aware it is a "national bar". Is it worth to try?

    Rom.

  15. #6623

    EE at Cyclone

    Quote Originally Posted by Nickc  [View Original Post]
    - 'Cyclone' at Novel Hotel. Was Mecure Hotel. Blitz was here? Mostly Asian? Not many EE.
    Never seen an EE at Cyclone who wasn't past her expiration date. Good source for Asian girls. Bargain and be patient. Same place where Blitz was.

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