Abu Dhabi

[Fawazsanbar]

Hi all,

I appreciate reading everyone's thoughts here for a good and safe time in Abu Dhabi. I've recently arrived to Abu Dhabi and a friend recommended I try going to Expatriates.com and find an escort for a good time or massage. I ended up doing just that but the normal rates on there seem to be 1200 and above for African ladies and 2000 and above for European ladies. Can anyone recommend a personal masseuse or escort for me that is not as expensive and is still wonderful company to be with? I would appreciate it a lot and if you think that these prices per hour are fair then let me know so I know what to expect. I have a few days in the city and would like to have a memorable time before traveling back to the USA

Thanks and email me at [Email address deleted by Admin] or on here.

I appreciate the advice.

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[Crime Of Passion]

My GF wasn't so much comfortable with the girls, simply just the fact that most of the PRC's are WG's so it is unavoidable in some situations. Our close social group were generally hard working Chinese and included a few western guys with Chinese ex-WG GF's. To be honest she hated the WG mentality and that included some of the ex-WG's some of which remained money hungry. We know some were straight into the AP or wherever as soon as their boyfriends were on a plane home for a bit.

To be honest LT it depends on what value you put on your relationship and what you think of her. If you and her are together and she thinks there is a future you will look a shit to cheat on her not just in her eyes but in the eyes of her friends. She will lose a lot of face as will you. One thing I would always avoid is losing her face. If you are taking other girls anyway clearly it's not a 'relationship' as such so it doesn't matter too much although if L loves you it will hurt I'm sure. You are probably in her eyes 'a good customer'. Sometimes girls will introduce friends to look after you. Not really sure where you stand from what I have read.

Once I had a PRC GF I played with other nationalities if she was away and either used my phone contacts or went to places such as Galouises. It looks bad even talking or flirting to other WG's. Yes, simply what I am saying is just like home, if you shit on your own doorstep... I have one special PRC friend from the early days who had an older boyfriend who is often away. To see her suits me and her.

The 'no man' rule is more likely to come from the house 'madam'. Someone in the apartment will keep order, usually an older and wiser woman who wil have her own room and sort out disputes, issues etc. The girls generally respect her rules. I have been to one or two homes as a good customer in AD. generally they are very quiet, everybody tip toeing around as girls sleep in the day. Seeing men coming and going will bring trouble.

[Love Tactics]

it's interesting you are being drawn into the community. the girls can be fun and i found the community very interesting and very addictive. i went to quite a few homes, got close with one or two girls but finally got a prc who was not a wg. then we would go out to dinner, parties, chinese new year etc. and met many of the girls socially when they were not working.

interesting to hear you found a prc girlfriend who's comfortable being social with wgs while she is not a wg. i would imagine she'd be jealous and wouldn't want to take you to those social meetings.

if you are going to the apartment, you must be part of someones agenda.

although miss l invited me to her house for her goodby party yesterday, she called later to cancel because the chinese landlad doesn't allow guys. could be true, could be an excuse. too bad cos i was really looking forward to this.

i've some sweet memories of spending all evening with prcs in their rooms, but that was back in 2002 and in dubai. mesmerizing nights, with the girls singing chinese songs and slowly getting drunk. lots of jokes, lots of food. chinese are a highly fun bunch to be with, esp. when a bit tipsy. always good idea to bring a bottle of two of whiskey or wine, much appreciated by the girls.

so far, i haven't met prcs who invite you to their homes in abu dhabi, guess it's more restrictive over here. i tried stimulating miss l by saying i would give her expensive gold necklace, and she knows i'm good for my word, so i reckon she did try to get me in, but alas, no such luck.

cop, what's the unwritten rule of seeing girls now that my "wife" miss l has gone back to china for a month or two? can i see other girls from blitz or would i bring shame to her? i know going elsewhere wouldnt' matter because they'd find out with the speed of light, so what are my options here? would it be best to take lady from same house, or different house?

[Crime Of Passion]

My opinion ... Africans buhao, steal, no BBBJ, poor massage ... just my experience.

CIS ... in AUH many are of the T-56 variety, had one great one in DXB that I'll never forget, but that's the exception.

PRC ... best bet.

Just an opinion, based on significant field research.

I think we have all been there , but just pointing out there is more. I think PRC are generally 'the best' but I've also had so-so experiences with them. Comes down to the individuals I think. I've had a very happy BJ/CIM off an African although many don't. Funny actually only two weeks back I had a great chat with an African in 49, and made a joke out of why I was not taking her home, one point of which was 'you don't do BJ's'. She explained that many Africans thought it dirty and put them at much greater risk of HIV! Turned my argument around as one reason to not take an African for me was expecting they are more likely HIV! Weird logic I know in this environment.

Maybe I did too much PRC and got to know too much about it all. I found the PRC's very predictable after a while and got to know many too closely. Got a bit tiresome for my GF because we would often go somewhere and there would be some girl I had been with. Embarrassing for her.

[Nice Guy 99]

I would recommend seeing what else AD has. The Russians are interesting, as are the Africans although your card will be marked with the PRC's if they think you take 'dirty African girls'. The PRC's tend to be very racist.

My opinion ... Africans buhao, steal, no BBBJ, poor massage ... just my experience.

CIS ... in AUH many are of the T-56 variety, had one great one in DXB that I'll never forget, but that's the exception.

PRC ... best bet.

Just an opinion, based on significant field research.

[Crime Of Passion]

There is a business loyalty which is admirable and personal loyalty for some. Tends to be a public show of loyalty although privately some would happily steal another girls customer. Seen it, done it.

The loyalty can be a bit annoying, I've found girls stay away if they know you have a regular, or a girl claims to be a regular, particularly if the girl is an old hand and has some status. When I was back in AD a few weeks ago many girls even remembered I had a PRC GF and asked where she was! But, I had enough private numbers to sort myself out and do have a very special friend. If you are a regular customer sometimes if you turn up at a place the girls call back to your girl and she will magically appear or else your phone will ring and she will offer to meet up for the night.

It's interesting you are being drawn into the community. The girls can be fun and I found the community very interesting and very addictive. I went to quite a few homes, got close with one or two girls but finally got a PRC who was not a WG. Then we would go out to dinner, parties, Chinese New Year etc. and met many of the girls socially when they were not working. If you are going to the apartment, you must be part of someones agenda. The community though can be a bit tiring as Chinese life is a big game of posturing and buying in and returning favours (guanxi), and it's easy to do the wrong thing in Chinese eyes. Simplest and cheapest life is just to stay an infrequent customer.

I would recommend seeing what else AD has. The Russians are interesting, as are the Africans although your card will be marked with the PRC's if they think you take 'dirty African girls'. The PRC's tend to be very racist.

[Love Tactics]

Thanks for your vote of confidence that i am normal, sometimes i doubt it myself

Yes, i did specifically mention "massage only, no sex". She still tried, obviously to get more money and i always pay extra if both of us were able to succeed. But she was lackluster and i was drunk, not the best of combinations

You are right about fair prices: i usually pay 300LT, which might seem on the low end, even for Blitz, but a. I'm a nice guy, b. I have only regular requests and c. even LT normally consists of 1 round only. I guess most girls would find me an easy customer, and that's ok with me. If you take girls home on a high frequency, you can't expect every night to be filled with passion. A relaxing massage, good cuddling is often better in my book.

As for negotiating up front, i typically don't and i never, repeat never, had a PRC giving me a hard time about. Once of twice, the same girl would not wanna go out with me next time, so i guess she must have thought 300 was too low. Fair enough. Others, however, would gladly come up to me the moment i walk in, so they were ok with 300LT.

Still, i really try not to take too many different and tend to take the same girl over and over again.

Will hopefully be attending the goodbye party of Miss L later today at her accomodation, should be fun: 30 girls and 1 lucky guy cramped in a tiny room

Footnote: If you are a first-time visitor to Blitz or seldom go there, you might not find 300LT and instead should try 400-500. Yesterday, the girlfriend of Miss L turned down an offer of 100 Euro, which is what, around 400dh? It's my impression that prices go down once they know you. And trust me, they do know you after a few times. Very inspiring to see the collaborative efforts among PRC girls.

That's one of the reasons i like them so much: most of them truly care for each other and are highly professional about it. Like, they would call up Miss L if she was at home, because her 'husband' just entered Blitz. Hardly ever did anyone try to steal me away from her, and if a new PRC girl tried, the others would set her straight. A few times, they even came back to apologize.

What's even more pleasantly surprising, is that this loyalty goes across the different 'houses': even girls from a different house would not try to steal other guys. I'm sure it happens and i'm sure I might be naive about it, but there are quite a few unwritten rules here that make for a very cooperative approach to getting as much money out of your customer base. Blitz would be a good study ground for developing top-notch customer relationship bulding skills

Interesting goings on. Not sure what that was all about with the girl, but general advice is to agree a price and services before although to be fair I often didn't. Did she know it was only massage before she came back?

I've never advocated screwing the girls down to the lowest price. I've always advocated being fair to them, but not overpaying them. 300 for LT is a fair price, and I would happily pay 500 for some. The regular Blitz girls are unlikely to get 500. They will however expect more from Westerners. If you look at some of their clients, the poorer Arabs etc. in Blitz then they will get less from them and probably a harder time with attitude and sometimes more sex etc. I've said before but it is worth remembering some of those that frequent Blitz will also take whatever is on the street outside when they leave - and get paid less.

You are not an a/h LT! You sound a regular guy and just remember the world you are dabbling in is surreal and strange and not you!

[Crime Of Passion]

Interesting goings on. Not sure what that was all about with the girl, but general advice is to agree a price and services before although to be fair I often didn't. Did she know it was only massage before she came back?

I've never advocated screwing the girls down to the lowest price. I've always advocated being fair to them, but not overpaying them. 300 for LT is a fair price, and I would happily pay 500 for some. The regular Blitz girls are unlikely to get 500. They will however expect more from Westerners. If you look at some of their clients, the poorer Arabs etc. in Blitz then they will get less from them and probably a harder time with attitude and sometimes more sex etc. I've said before but it is worth remembering some of those that frequent Blitz will also take whatever is on the street outside when they leave - and get paid less.

You are not an a/h LT! You sound a regular guy and just remember the world you are dabbling in is surreal and strange and not you!

[Nice Guy 99]

am i really an asshole or is she just a b1tch?

LT --- you are not an a-hole, you are an eminently fair guy. She was being short sighted, perhaps because she was new or embarrassed (lose face). Cheer up my friend, someday you'll find that girl that does 96

[Love Tactics]

Went to Blitz tonight to get a decent masseuse. Asked the local patron and he introduced me to An Ping (working name: sissi). Nice girl, tall (173cm) and off we went. Good massage, folllowed by a half baked attempt at bj. Sex was also on offer, but hesitantly because she was new, she was shy, etc. etc.

So i called it a day and thanked her for a nice massage. "me go home?", "yes, you go home". OK, so she got dressed and i gave her 150dh + 10 for taxi. Figured that was fair price for 1 hr massage without sex.

Oops!

Literally,for the first time ever, i had a PRC haggling over money. They never, ever do that, at least, not with me. Normally, they take the money, don't even count it. But i guess there's a first for everything.

She said she wanted 200dh. I told her that for massage only i always pay 150, which is plenty. Clearly, she didn't agree because she also gave 'suck'. Told her that i didn't come, so 'suck' didn't work for me. Didn't wanna tell her she sucked at sucking, since i was also a bit tired, hence it could've been me.

Still, all i got was a 1hr massage so 150dh should be plenty in my book. She insisted on 200dh. So i said she can either get 200dh but then i will never take her again, or she gets 150 and next time i will take her. Which i would because her massage was quite ok. Besides, promises like that i always keep.

Without hesitation, she insisted on 200dh, so i gave her the additional 40dh. Again, she made problems because the 10dh was taxi money, so she wanted 210. At that point i told her she can walk home. Which she would anyway. Amazing to realize how far PRCs are willing to walk to save 10dh in taxi money.

After she took the money she became all apologetic saying that i should not be angry and that next time she will be very nice to me. I had to laugh at that last statement and said to her that there won't be a next time because she took the 200dh. Then she said i was not nice to her, after which she left.

so yeah, i dunno anymore: am i really an asshole or is she just a b1tch?

IMHO, she is shortsighted for taking the money now because in the long run she would have made more money. She knows i am a regular at Blitz because she has seen me many times. My argument that i always pay 150dh for massage only, didn't impress her: she insisted on 200dh. Quite strange to see a PRC argue over money. As said earlier, they never do that with me, they just take the money and next time in the club, you know if it was enough if she comes back to you. Which so far, most girls have done, including the 150dh massage ladies.

[Love Tactics]

Thanks for the advice. Although i am nice, and proud of it, i'm not a sucker. Or well, perhaps i was before when i would pay 500 for LT. After NG99's post that he usually gets away with 300LT, i lowered my prices, too. Sure enough, the girls still want to take me next time, so it seems that 300 LT for PRC is achievable.

But then again, depending on time of day, i offer them food etc. And i'm not too demanding. Typically a good massage and one round of sex is enough, sometimes followed by a second session in the morning, sometimes not. Do they consider me an easy prey? yeah, quite possibly. Then again, for 300LT, i don't really mind. I could lower to 250, but somehow that would be too cheap. Your advice is greatly appreciated though. If you feel 200-250 is achieveable, i might just try it.

To add to your posting, i had a highly revealing encounter with Miss L's room mate the other night (see a previous post). She was already quite drunk and after emptying the mini bar (whiskey, wine, gin, quite amazing for PRC to drink so much), she opened up. First, by asking me if I still loved Miss L, and i told her yes.

THis was her starting cue to launch into a fully drunk monologue about PRC's ethics. Like you wrote COP, it's all about making money and love has nothing to do with it. The PRCs are highly ambitious in making as much money as possible, and good for them. Love, passion, is only distracting from their goal of supporting the family back home, buy a house, etc. It's ok if a customer falls in love with girl, because long term relationship means more money and no go to Novotel, with smoke and music. Better to have husband.

At one point, i couldn't help it, but the cynicism was getting to me. So I blurted out that Lola told me she loved me. Granted, i was also quite wasted, but anyway. That made her stop talking and after a long silence she just said that L is a simple girl, not very clever. To which i responded that "yeah, there is no love in Novotel". She nodded and said "just boom-boom".

It was almost as if she was worried about L for telling me she loved me; like she crossed a border, broke an unwritten rule of the game. In any case, that didn't stop her from calling L right then and there and ordered her to come over.

Since the liquor brought out the truth in her, i asked her about the economics of her business: would she be willing to accept, say 200dh for the night by going straight to the hotel, instead of going to smoky Novotel with the distinct possibilty of ending up without a customer?

Despite her drunkenness, she didn't want to answer that question. I've noticed before, many girls don't wanna talk the money side: like how often they go home alone, what are minimum rates they will accept etc. Also now, L's room mate didn't open up on this topic. Only she said that she will not go for 200 only, but some ugly girls might.

Ah yes, the concept of 'other girls': when talking to a WG, don't talk about 'her', always talk about 'the other girls'. 'her' prices are always high and she's always with customers, but 'the other girls' can be quite different To get the truth, best believe the stories about the 'other girls'

Interesting stuff. LT see you are getting immersed in the PRC community! It's your choice what you do, the community can be enjoyable, but word about soft hearted, 'kind' guys spreads quickly. I do say this with the best intent, but the girls are on the lookout for an easy time. The hard fact is they need money. They can't afford to do freebies, not unless they have lots of regulars, and if they have many regulars they don't tend to be out looking for work unless they are very greedy. Many offer 'for free' but know guys will give them money by morning. It's also a means of softening up a regular customer for future or place to sleep when it suits them. PRC WG have a very focussed businesslike attitude and everything tends to be a means to an end. Money or future but rarely pleasure. Don't mean any lecture, just an awareness. I have been part of the PRC life for 4 years and had it all explained and demonstrated to me.

Etihad girls are lovely! Had a fling with one in AD but she wouldn't be my GF. Had her own agenda which I think was Arab! Also met a Sri Lankan air hostess but a fee was involved! Like the idea but never met the right one.

[Nibiru]

I am said to report the following. Ok said is not the word, but I will refrain from the moment to add personal comments and stick to the FR at hand. Save the comments for anouther post/time. With a few color phrases as well.

"During this past weekend, a colleague was charged with kissing in public, resulting in the person's arrest. The local authorities view this as a serious violation of the local regulations. " "Dubai Council recently clarified its codes, noting Under the Article "Behavior Between Sexes", the list strictly prohibits several actions in public, including: any kind of kissing, cuddling, fondling, hand holding. Or any other act that would violate public decency. Only married couples are permitted to hold hands in decent ways. "

This is what we got, now I have been waiting to post till I got the skinny. A good friend told me that Dubai wouldn't want this known cause of tourism, and from what I got from some employees our company is working to try and keep this hush. What had happened in Dubai (yes I will post this in Duabi forum also). Was this guy suposedly was seen kissing in the back seat of a Taxi while traveling down the road and was seen. It is unclear as to if the driver or anouther driver spotted the event. The Taxi driver then pulled along side the road till the cops showed up. What was STUPID on behalf of this guy was that he STAYED in the taxi. If the car pulles over. Get the fk out-hello? .

He was then arrested. I have yet to see or hear of this in the paper, and do not yet know what has become of him. I will post as soon as I get the skinny.

But remember folks. Where you are. You are in a place that even arrests you for carrying a bottle of water in 135F heat durning the day durning thier Ramadan. We too often get comfortable in our surroundings and forget our place here. Funny, I was never critical of ones religion till I came here. I will bite my tounge for now.

Just wanted to give everyone a heads up and wake up call. Cause it does happen. Never know who is watching. Like the guy who got arrested for flipping the dirver off who cut him off-oops he was a off duty cop. Well I hope you like eating drill for a bit.

As a wise one on here all ways says.

Be careful out there!

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[Nibiru]

Hi All

Normally I always stay in dubai, where the Hilton hotels are super GF. Soon I need to stay in Abu Dhabi. What about the Hilton hotels here. Are they GF?

The Hilton Residence is Very GF. No problems. When I had stayed there last fall, one of the concieres told me where to have a beer and find a gal.

[Member #3055]

Hi All

Normally I always stay in dubai, where the Hilton hotels are super GF. Soon I need to stay in Abu Dhabi. What about the Hilton hotels here. Are they GF?

[Mjolnir 213]

Etihad girls are lovely! Had a fling with one in AD but she wouldn't be my GF. Had her own agenda which I think was Arab! Also met a Sri Lankan air hostess but a fee was involved! Like the idea but never met the right one.

A filipina girl I dated a little while ago was an Etihad stewardess.
(I actually knew her from a couple of years ago through work and bumped into her in Jules bar one night)
Very sweet girl but was looking for a serious relationship and at the time I had other things on my mind.

She even brought her cousin along on one date and I got the whole KGB interrogation routine from her.

Scary stuff that.



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