Abu Dhabi

[Hulahula85]

Anyone know what has happened to 49ers?

Went there recently to be told that 49ers was closed for 'renovation'.

A sign in the hotel foyer confirms this.

Later heard from chinese GF that there had been a fight at 49ers and it was not known / if when 49ers would open again.

Understand at least some chinese ladies have shifted to Captiol.

Anyone else know any more?

I went to Al Diar Wed. Night because I wanted to check out 49ers. Talked to the desk clerks and was told that the police did break up a fight between several expats and that it had something to do with a PRC they both wanted. Apparently they're waiting for permission from the police to open the club back up. I'm just quoting what I was told from the gentlemen manning the reception desk at 1:30 in the morning, so I can't guarantee the information is 100% accurate, but hopefully 49ers will open up sometime soon!

[Softspoken2202]

Last week had been to Illusions, they have upped the entry fee from 75 to 120 on weekdays. That's too much for a weekday.

[Steamer33]

everything goes around the prc community instantly (chinese whispers!). friends see all, hear all and report back. they also remember faces.

as someone who had a prc gf for a year and a half i can concur that the prc grapevine is amazing, and the chinese whispers even go all the way back to china.

when my gf was back home for chinese new year last year i got an irate phone call from her one morning asking why i had been in seaview the night before.

someone who knew her had seen me and texted her in china that i had been in there to "take a lady". fortunately that night i had been there with two non-mongering pals whom she knew and when she found out who i had been with i lived to fight another day.

after that, whenever i wanted one of my filipina regulars from there we always had to leave separately, a good 10 minutes apart. she was aware of virtually my every visit to seaview, york or snake during the two months she was away.

amazing that someone 5,000 miles away knew where i had been virtually before i had got home. some nights i recognised her friends in there and knew to be careful, others i didn't know any of the prc and still got busted!

never a dull moment though, working in covert operations!

be careful out there.
steamer33

[Ssh Proxy]

Anyone know what has happened to 49ers?

Went there recently to be told that 49ers was closed for 'renovation'.

A sign in the hotel foyer confirms this.

Later heard from chinese GF that there had been a fight at 49ers and it was not known / if when 49ers would open again.

Understand at least some chinese ladies have shifted to Captiol.

Anyone else know any more?

[Jay B]

Hi,

I am thinking about going to AD in Feb 2009. Is there any bars I can go to in the day? (for WG)

Regards

[M02040608]

Hello, I am looking for MP places in AD with happy ending or FS. Could you please PM the contacts since we are not sure which LE are watching. Thank you all. I have checked the LT report on MP from November, but he seems away or not checking his PM. Anyway, thanks for anyone who helps

[Crime Of Passion]

COP. Two recent posts with great advice for anyone with a Chinese GF. Me and mine have had some classic disagreements over simple misunderstandings or bad translations. Now we both are recognising this much better and often go back to the start of a conversation to see where it went wrong!

One of our best was me being away and saying on the phone "I can't wait to see you" which she took as "I'm not going to wait until I see you!"

Face is key. My G/F is away at the moment and I am not mongering. Judging by the telephone calls, she has had some good reports.

Luper Calia - Xaioxin, xiexie ni!

Thanks for your post, I think most of the guys you see around AD with GF's must have gone through this and lost hair at some point! How you find an instant unexpected argument over what can be the smallest thing! Interesting though when you listen to the Asian perspective on things and how we may have a totally different view in the west. e.g. In the west you let the Mrs go out with friends, you are probably glad of it and you wouldn't expect to call her knowing she will arrive home when she is ready. My Chinese GF would expect that I call at some point to say I am missing her, and maybe later call to tell her I want her back now because I miss her. The friends see the call and it reinforces I love her and miss her to them! Face! If you did that to a UK woman you would be told to b*gger off and leave her be!

The bit about the phone calls is worth noting. Everything goes around the PRC community instantly (Chinese whispers!). Friends see all, hear all and report back. They also remember faces. If you want to play away like I did occasionally then I had a couple of trusted PRC's with English boyfriends that I knew and they kept quiet because they didn't want to lose what they had or I would find Russian/CIS/Indian elsewhere. Be aware though that AD is vey small and PRC's will pass comment to your GF even if they pass in the street...all you need is a 'that guy is good customer' and your rumbled!

I'm concious we are taking up mongering space but it is a quiet forum. I also sound like I'm discouraging mongering, not at all, just be careful if you have a PRC GF!

[Luper Calia]

Hi LT, yes, will meet up sometime when I get back.

Difficult, but I think this girl is going to be really let down at some point. I would guess she thinks there is a chance otherwise unlikely you would be invited home. Most tend to keep their Chinese home life totally seperate - family won't know what she does and other girls will not know her real name or actual address.

Not really sure of your way out, seems some talking to do as the emotional attachment is there. If it suits you both to have a financial arrangement that may be ok but it may be on condition she will go if she gets a better offer of future. If you are a boyfriend you will lose credability if you don't pay her enough to prevent her having to seek money elsewhere! Maybe you'll get jealous if she has to have sex with others! You could be downgraded to 'a good customer, a regular' but not boyfriend! Difficult isn't it!

All I'd say is public face is very important to the Chinese, so always think of hers first even if it's at your loss - sort things out privately. Don't lose face or credability yourself if she is your girlfriend as this will lose hers (e.g. you are mongering elsewhere). Don't assume you are right! The Asian perspective on things is often at odds or reverse to what we assume is normal in the western world. If her English is bad don't assume what you mean is what she understands or what she says is what she means!

I don't want to come over as patronising or a know it all but I have had many an argument and intensely frustrating moments because me and mine have got it wrong! Some girls are shits, but many girls really are nice people and come from some difficult times back home and as has been said so many times by WR and others they do deserve treating nicely and respectfully. I reckon you may be able to come to an understanding and have her as an AD girlfriend but somewhere along the way it will hurt if you have to part and of course she will always be looking for a real future.

Guess that's why so many have the wife at home and just enjoy mongering!

Cop,

Two recent posts with great advice for anyone with a Chinese GF. Me and mine have had some classic disagreements over simple misunderstandings or bad translations. Now we both are recognising this much better and often go back to the start of a conversation to see where it went wrong!

One of our best was me being away and saying on the phone "I can't wait to see you" which she took as "I'm not going to wait until I see you! "

Face is key. My G/F is away at the moment and I am not mongering. Judging by the telephone calls, she has had some good reports.

LT. You have to decide what you want here. Its easy for me, I no longer have a wife to worry about and I am very happy to look forward to a long term relationship and more. As a partner, I could not ask for more than she gives me. You must be honest about your position and tell her what you want. She may well accept that but there will need to be a financial element. There is a big difference (in her eyes) between giving your GF some money and P4P. You don't pay every time for a start! Slipping money into her bag is a good way as it is lucky for her to find unexpected money!

Whilst PRC WGs often appear to be relatively unaffected by the work, bear in mind that it is means to an end and that they all would rather not be doing it. They survive by keeping a little distance and maintaining a bit of a shell to survive the knocks. Somehow, you have broken through that. You may have been the first to take a real interest in her, simple actions that show that you care, which you take as normal, mean a tremendous amount to her.

As COP said in his earlier post, a Chinese girl unlikely to be flippant when talking about love. It is not a throwaway statement like in the west.

Hope you can sort it out.

Xiaoxin

[Crime Of Passion]

Hi LT, yes, will meet up sometime when I get back.

Difficult, but I think this girl is going to be really let down at some point. I would guess she thinks there is a chance otherwise unlikely you would be invited home. Most tend to keep their Chinese home life totally seperate - family won't know what she does and other girls will not know her real name or actual address.

Not really sure of your way out, seems some talking to do as the emotional attachment is there. If it suits you both to have a financial arrangement that may be ok but it may be on condition she will go if she gets a better offer of future. If you are a boyfriend you will lose credability if you don't pay her enough to prevent her having to seek money elsewhere! Maybe you'll get jealous if she has to have sex with others! You could be downgraded to 'a good customer, a regular' but not boyfriend! Difficult isn't it!

All I'd say is public face is very important to the Chinese, so always think of hers first even if it's at your loss - sort things out privately. Don't lose face or credability yourself if she is your girlfriend as this will lose hers (e.g. you are mongering elsewhere). Don't assume you are right! The Asian perspective on things is often at odds or reverse to what we assume is normal in the western world. If her English is bad don't assume what you mean is what she understands or what she says is what she means!

I don't want to come over as patronising or a know it all but I have had many an argument and intensely frustrating moments because me and mine have got it wrong! Some girls are shits, but many girls really are nice people and come from some difficult times back home and as has been said so many times by WR and others they do deserve treating nicely and respectfully. I reckon you may be able to come to an understanding and have her as an AD girlfriend but somewhere along the way it will hurt if you have to part and of course she will always be looking for a real future.

Guess that's why so many have the wife at home and just enjoy mongering!

[Fazal1]

Can any one provide me with some contact nos for spending some qaulity time in Abu Dhabi please pretty please as I am very desperate.

Thanks

Thing is, I don't mind paying her and keeping it a professional relationship. In fact, I'd prefer it that way, less emotional stuff to bother with. But she refuses my money each and every time. Although a few days ago, I did slip in 500 dirham in her bag without her noticing it. Next time we met she didn't say anything about it. Must be this 'face-saving' issue.

As for loyalty, she's great in bed so I don't really need anyone else right now. What bothers me is the language: she hardly speaks English. But otherwise, I'm perfectly fine with her.

Your comments about the depth of PRC love are a bit scary: I can not enter any serious relationship as I am already happily married. Would it be really impossible to just have Miss L as a pro-friend? I don't want to hurt her. How about putting her on a monthly stipend, would that save her face?

Then again, she is taking things in her own hand. Like, yesterday, she suggested I should visit China with her on her next visit home for Chinese new year. What's this: "Meet the Parents", knowing that new year is spent with family in China?

Anyway, looking forward to meeting you once you're back in Abu Dhabi and to pick your brain further on this topic. Thanks for the background.

[Fazal1]

I am going to Abu Dhabi in 1 week.

Can you please provide me some contact numbers.

Many Thanks

[Love Tactics]

thanks for the info cop.

thing is, i don't mind paying her and keeping it a professional relationship. in fact, i'd prefer it that way, less emotional stuff to bother with. but she refuses my money each and every time. although a few days ago, i did slip in 500 dirham in her bag without her noticing it. next time we met she didn't say anything about it. must be this 'face-saving' issue.

as for loyalty, she's great in bed so i don't really need anyone else right now. what bothers me is the language: she hardly speaks english. but otherwise, i'm perfectly fine with her.

your comments about the depth of prc love are a bit scary: i can not enter any serious relationship as i am already happily married. would it be really impossible to just have miss l as a pro-friend? i don't want to hurt her. how about putting her on a monthly stipend, would that save her face?

then again, she is taking things in her own hand. like, yesterday, she suggested i should visit china with her on her next visit home for chinese new year. what's this: "meet the parents", knowing that new year is spent with family in china?

anyway, looking forward to meeting you once you're back in abu dhabi and to pick your brain further on this topic. thanks for the background.

hey lt. i'm currently out of the ad scene but hope to be back early part of 2009 for long term. wr knows me and knows i have had quite a lt prc gf when living in ad 2005-8 (and still have.) so long as it is not simply a financial bf/gf relationship which many are in ad i can say the prc's tend to be pretty loyal and expect loyalty. prc friends will help to ensure it stays that way by keeping girls away although there will always be one or two ready to take your money.

prc's tend not to use the word 'love' flipantly like us shallow westerners! love tends to mean love so would suggest you are careful with 1) this girls feelings and 2) her 'face' to the other prc's. despite what she tells you, she may well be telling the other prc girls you have promised marriage and a future. generally all prc's are after money, but they may well compromise on making money if they seriously think there is a future, marriage and a better life coming. girls will think she is mad to just hang around and having sex with a guy with no future or money as a result of it.

sounds at the moment she will lose a lot of 'face' if you take another girl. you will also lose a lot of face and respect too amongst the prc's. she will also lose a lot of face if you dump her. as you probably know one of the worst things for any chinese is losing face in front of family or peers. if you want out best you bite the bullet and give her cause or at least allow her to show she dumped you. not easy though if you genuinely care for someone but i guess you have to look ahead and have some idea where it is all headed. heartache for all now or a little later when you have dug in a little more. shit either way getting a gf severely restricted my mongering days in ad the last 12 months (but not entirely) but she has proved to be a great girl and i made some great chinese friends and i've learn't a lot about culture, language etc. and had all the sex i wanted anyway.

[Randyme]

Unlike DXB, You many not find the so called incall facility in AD. However, there might be a few available in expatriates but rates are usually high (around 1500/ 2000 for an hour). On massage you may go through the FR posted by Love T on 24/11.

I haven't got the PM facility so any recommendations would be appreciated for the massage front, as would incalls. I may even do a trip to DXB so any recommendations for incalls on this front would be welcomed too.

[Boob Chicks]

Good summary. The Moroccan bath in the Wellness spa sounds just the ticket.

Good luck with your continued research on the massage venues in the capital.

I always thought that Dubai was the heaven of Massage places n choices...

I would defintly wanna try this Morrocan bath.. lets see if can get luky in Abu Dhabi.

[Softspoken2202]

I'm visiting for the first time just after Christmas. Will be staying with friends so no chance for bringing a lady back to their place. Can anyone recommend ladies who do incalls and also any recommendations on good massage places.

Thanks

Unlike DXB, You many not find the so called incall facility in AD. However, there might be a few available in expatriates but rates are usually high (around 1500/ 2000 for an hour). On massage you may go through the FR posted by Love T on 24/11.