2003 Archived Reports

[SDcruiser]

I'm hoping this tangent discussion ends on the TJ board. It's out of hand on the SD board. You two should share a hooker and plug her from both ends, have a few beers afterwards and realize that you both P4P and that's all that matters. So grab your woods and squeeze them 3 times and repeat " there's no place like the pussy, it's all about the pussy"

Cruiser

[Pokey]

Getting Tang!
Your right again. I was thinking the same thing, but I didn't need the help of any software to tell. I don't know the agenda is or could be, but I think its harmless. He might be lonely, bored, or just having fun writing so much.

But, I would not take the chance and meet up with this guy. You could end up in jail, one or both sides of the border. You can tell from the posts that he is not very knowledgeable about T.J.

[Catfish]

Sounds a little paranoid to me. If you thing you are right why did you not identify him? I don't understand what your concern is. It's not like we can get busted for going to TJ to have some fun. Please explain yourself.

[GettingTang]

My suspicions are true.

I just used a very advanced program that compares text type with each other. This program can identify if someone's writing style is the same as another's. I.E.. If the same person might be posting under multiple names. It's 99.9% accurate in identifying a poster, who might try and use other names as a different person. I used a comparison of 22 posts from two different names (22 from each poster) it confirmed with almost 100% certainty that our most famous poster to this thread, is posting under another name also. This program uses such techniques, as typing style, wording used, spacing, spelling, and thousands of other fingerprint type techniques.

My theory, at least as I see it holds true. A certain poster is trying to butter you all up, to make you feel comfortable enough to meet with him in person. I would strongly advice against this. I would strongly suggest you find his true motive for such a scenario. He is after someone, or some people on this forum.

Many of you posed the scenario, of why would he be posting under TJ, if the activity is to take place in Mexico. Does not matter, he knows you reside in SD County and will use any tactic for a meeting setup. TJ is an easy way to meet. Not likely you're going to meet at a massage parlor now is it, or picking up a SW, now is it? But TJ is the perfect excuse!

Most of this is based on theory, but not the part about posting under multiple names, to build your confidence. For what purpose this is taking place, is still open for debate.

Be careful!

GETTINGTANG~!

[Country John]

If anyone thinks they are going to get an advantage over the girls (whether SW or Bar) then you are fooling yourself. The BEST you are going to do is make a deal that you are comfortable with for a girl you'll do. The girls always get what they want - one way or the other. True anywhere except maybe for the skanky hos who need a hit etc.

If you are a new mongerer and want to hit up a TJSW, you MUST try to establish a rapport on the street before you go upstairs, if you want to have an acceptable experience.

Now there are are a lot of stories on this board about rip offs etc and while they are valid and I'm sure they are, I'm not sure why they happen so often except to say that the girls know when to pul the trigger. They are reading the johns. So YOU are giving them the opportunity to upsell upstairs because YOU didn't downsell downstairs.

Knowing who is out to rip you is also very helpful and a big thanks to the members who've posted the names etc. Very very helpful and much appreciated.

My technique (and I speak NO spanish) seems to work well. I always look at a deal and try to understand if I could have spent less and maybe I could have but WTF? As long as I don't get ripped I'm happy.

I'm looking forward to TJ in January. Hope to meet up with some fellow mongerers then.

Be Safe and BE NICE
Country John

[Explorer8939]

Trip report, delayed 2 weeks:

Went down to TJ, took the Taxi Libre to the Zona, cost me 22 pesos. Checked into a jacuzzi suite at Cascadas, cost was about 67 dollars.

Hung out at Bar Miami, ran into a chica named Maya, 27 years old, kind of old for Miami, but what the hell. She offered $80, I responded with 600 pesos, and off we went. Net result, she stayed in the room for about 2 hours, half in the jacuzzi, half in bed, big fun.

After a 10 minute break to clean up the room, and change the towels, off I went down to the street to pick up a SG. Found some chica whose name I don't remember, and off we went. I laid 500 pesos on the counter, and then we worked our way into the jacuzzi.

Five hours later, the chica decided to go home for the night, and I passed out (it was 2 am).

So, the trip cost me 1100 pesos for the chicas, 700+pesos for the room, plus some cash for drinks and the like. A little rich for my blood, but I knew I would only get down to TJ that one time until now.

[Greenlee]

Thanks for the info Frijole. I was thinking about going this Friday afternoon, the day after Christmas. I'm not sure if its a good time to go, but it looks like I can get away for a few hours. Still trying to decide where to go... I don't now about the rest of you, but I if I'm going to TJ to hook up, I give up a little performance to be with a better looking girl with a nicer body. Where can a guy go to find the best looking girls? I can do the work for the both of us

[SDcruiser]

Room at Cascadas, only to find the street was bare and pickings were slim. None of my regulars were out so I went to the AB and it was slow. I ended up sitting at the Kauss? bar wihich is to the left of Mermaids. I was the only person in the joint. Four girls dancing and all were just doable ranging from a 4-6. Beers were 2-1 and the songs were good so I sat there and watched all the girls perform. It was kinda cool to have a strip joint to yourself. I asked the youngest girl there to go back to my room and she said "No hotel". Then the ugliest of the four danced and she said yes for $50. Well I waited for 5 minutes for her to come I decided to take a lap around the street. Luckily I found a regular and back to Cascadas for 2 pops and a little nap with her.

Taxi Libre's are getting harder to find to the zone. All the other cabs are standing firm on $5, which isn't too bad. I just learned not to tip.

Also for those how like to shag the street girls, the dirty hotels are infested with LICE according to my regular I saw today. She said Cascadas and the bar hotels are clean. I bring my own sheets. And don't bring them into the house until after they have been washed. I also check the hair for lice with a lice comb when I get home.

Cruiser

[Late Night]

Dear Gents,

I will probably be in San Diego on Thursady. I was wondering if there is any action in TJ Thursday night (Christmas Eve!).

Are AB or Chicago open on that night?

Street action?

Thanks in advance!

[Mongering1]

Roddd,

There is nothing wrong at all with tipping the girl. I think it showed good business when she suggested it. I remember a trend a while back when all the girls would put thier hand out for a tip at the end, even if they gave bad service. We all know by now the usual rutine with the girls, so if one goes above and beyond, well I'll tip accordingly.

Conejo,

A pic suggestion: How about getting pics of the "guides" there. I know most of them of course, but for the newbies it might serve to point out the good from the bad. I always advise to stay away from these dudes, but some have a purpose, Franco comes to mind.

Bud

[Roddd]

Operation AlleyKat

First of all, I want to thank Country John for meeting up with me in TJ, and giving me an excellent tutorial on negotiating with the street girls. I have visited TJ many times, but this past Thursday was the first time I went with a fellow forum member, which was a lot of fun.

I have always preferred the bar girls as opposed to the SG's, but after this trip, I have a new outlook. Even though I did not go with a SG this time, next time it is surely on the menu. Also, it was my first time down there in the middle of the day, and as far as that goes, in the alley, there are no dark spots for the girls to hide in. What you see is what you get, and there are definitely some very pretty girls there.

While CJ was getting busy in the alley, I went back to AB to have a beer and a look around. Again, my first time there in the daytime, and I definitely have a new appreciation for it. Not nearly as crowded as night, but there are way more girls than guys in there, and the selection was, in my opinion, very good. Maybe because it was a Thursday, I don't know.

I started talking to Victoria from Mazatlan. 32 years old and every bit of 5' 10" tall. Not a small girl, but not fat either. We spent a good 15 minutes just talking. Her English was good enough that I did not have to use any of my very poor Spanish. This whole time talking, she never asked me to buy her a drink, and she never asked to go upstairs for 'suckee-f**kee'. Well, time to get down to business. I asked her if she would go up for forty, but she wanted fifty. I said "no can do". She said OK to forty, but if I like it, I can tip her 10. I guess I should have let her go right then, butt, and it was a nice butt, well, up we went.

We spent every bit of 30 minutes in the room with no knock on the door. Not as busy during the day, so no rush to get you out. Had a good time with Victoria. She liked to kiss, but no DFK. A lot of hugging and caressing, and she didn't mind me playing with and sucking on her large natural cans. Good CBJ and she was receptive to go at it in any position I chose, and I chose several. After we finished, we took a shower together, and walked back down together. By the way, yes, I did like it, so it ended up being 50 after all. There I go again, breaking my own rules.

I grabbed another barstool and waited for CJ to return. Sure enough, he came back, 'dragging' himself to where I was sitting. After recharging a bit, we went for another walk in the alley. Well, you already know the rest from CJ's post. I just walked around a little and waited back at AB with another brew. I almost let Sophia from Mexico City talk me into a session for $40 (her first price)!, but by this time, CJ had already returned from #2 and we getting ready to go.

As far as all the recent posts on SG versus bar girl, a lot of good information which we can all use to our advantage, as we should. I think it really comes down to, 'to each, his own'. Just like Gekko said, experience and learning from your mistakes. We have the advantage here of learning from other's mistakes.

I am definitely in on Operation AlleyKat II. It's nice to sit back and shoot the breeze between sessions.

roddd

[The Wizard]

Conejo,

If you can, get pictures of the alley/girls area that would be very helpful. I've been going to TJ for several years but have never had an alley chick because I have no idea where this alley is. A cab normally drops me off in front of CC or AB, so I don't walk around that area much.

Good luck.

[Conejo]

Let me start by saying that I will be the first to agree that the women in the bars offer much better service for an appropriately higher price when compared to the street walkers. But I myself like street walkers, and what they offer.

I think that we must all keep in mind that alley service is strictly “A la Carte”. So you always have to be very specific about what you want and how much you will pay for it. If you bring bar service level expectations to the alley, you will almost always be disappointed. I appreciate the SW girls for what the offer, a cheap happy ending. The alley and the bars are two very different experiences. I’m sure that those that use the SW girls to warm up can appreciate the fact that their AB experience was enhanced by the fact that the edge was taken off. I myself like the fact that I can either choose to go a couple times the same girl, or go once with a couple of girls for not much more than what I would pay for a single pop at AB.

Regarding “blow up dolls”:

I have also had my share of cold fish experiences with street girls. But I have also had some very good times with a few SW. I think that the same rule that applies in the clubs applies in the alley. It’s all about “attitude, attitude, attitude”. It has been my experience that good attitude, that translates into a good time upstairs. I always look for playfulness, smiles, etc. It probably helps that I can speak Spanish, since I can chat with them to get a better gage. I have had some of my best times with girls that are average looking but seem to take the service with a smile part seriously. The cold fish quickie bandits have usually been the ones who look the best, but have given off the most neutral to slightly bitchy attitude. I have found this to be the case in both the bars and the alley. The bottom line is that if the girl is not giving you a good vive, walk on.

Regarding price:

When it comes to negotiating the price in the alley, the one thing that has worked for me is patience. I think that beyond negotiating, it’s wise to pause to see if the price will come down a little more prior to closing the deal and going upstairs. All you have to do is wait a minute or two after she gives you her first “final” offer. This shows the girl that you do want to go upstairs. But more importantly, it puts pressure on her to lower the price to close the deal. After all, these girls are only getting paid when they go upstairs. If they know that you are serious, they will have to consider whether they want to make the money, take the chance that their time will go wasted. If they don’t budge on the price, then I usually just move on. On my last trip, the girl I was trying to take upstairs did not budge, but the girl standing next to her took my offer on the spot after having witnessed the negotiations. It turned out that it was already about mid shift and she had yet to go upstairs so she jumped at the chance.

On a side note, I plan to take my digital camera to TJ on my next trip. I was wondering what kinds of pictures would be of use for the board, besides those of girls. Your suggestions are appreciated.

Thank you.

Conejo

[Gekko]

I'm not here to defend the SGs but just to say my experience with them has been different.

I have recieved bjs, I have had multiple positions. Granted, I've also had some of the experiences others have posted. Jasmine who stands across the street from Cascades. She has a real sweet face and will agree to everything except beso. She agreed to sin ropa, bj, multiple position. Getting up into the room and its a different story. No sin ropa, leaves her top on, doesn't want me to suck or touch her breast. But, I do get the bj, nothing to brag about, and the multiple positions but still mechanical. Then, there's Flaviola who stands close to Jasmine. What she agrees to, she'll do. She's a little more fun, more animated, and worth going back to for the cheap ****. Another girl I had recently, Monica who stands to the left of the Hong Kong bar, is the same way. She's very caring which I like alot. A little shy but her service is good.

However, the AB girls, that's where I like to be. They're more alive upstairs. But, you still need to be careful. You can still have a bad experience. Take Alejandro. Many experienced mongers know who I'm talking about, and have fallen into her trap. She's short, about 5'1" with braided hair, about a 6-7, B cup. Normally wears jeans with a tube top. She likes to work close to the entrance trapping the guys just coming in but will work the entire bar. She'll come up to you, dance infront of you, let you see her breast, and let you feel them with not a care in the world who's watching. That's how she got me. Right infront of my friends who thought I had a hot one. I thought so too and the bulge confirmed it. Got her to agree to $40 for sin ropa, bj, multi pos, no rush. Well, the 40 turn to 50 to use a condom. She got me there on that little extra. Got everything I wanted, but it was the most rush job I ever experienced. Before I had a sock on, she was out the door. I still had over 15min. Took a shower, dressed, went down stairs and told my buddies how bad she was.

I had 2 other AB girls later that night. They turned a bad start into a great night.

Just like it is in life, you've got to gain the experience. And it doesn't come cheap. You're gonna make some mistakes, but you're gonna learn from them. And the more you learn, the better you'll be to enjoy the fruits in life. In every basket of fruit, there's bound to be some bad apples.

Da prowling GEKKO.

[Mongering1]

I did something fun with SGs a few times. After I've came a couple times in a day, I'll take a vitamin V and do a few street girls, not at the same time, but back to back. I just take them to the room and bang away until the knock, then when she starts talking more money for more time I tell her no thanks, I'll get another girl. I'll do this until I either cum or find a keeper. Last trip I took a girl up that I did this to before. She gave me an excellent CBJ, total nude, and told the knocker to go away, all for $20. Maybe she was trying to prove something?

Bud