Crime, Safety, and the Police

[Sol12]

Being insured while driving in Mexico comes under prevailing security wisdom. Security is most effective in layers. In this case, insurance is just that. A layer in security, not a complete solution. As a "gabacho", "Pocho" living in Baja, I'd rather pay $120/ year for the rest of my life and never use it, than not have it and wish I did. Call it due diligence.

As I stated I wouldn't advise anyone to drive in Mexico without insurance. My point was that you were incorrect in the fact that if you get in an accident and don't have it even if the accident is not your fault will be a problem.

[Thunder52]

For the cartels, the number one money maker is controlling the Tijuana corridor to send contraband (drugs) into the USA. Nothing is even close. Cash businesses like HK is really a drop in the bucket and is more valuable as a money laundering operation. For years the cartels were not bothered with because actual victims were just rich gringos in the USA in their BMWs. It looks like Cabellero is going back to this model and saying that the Cartels is free to operate as long as they don't harm innocent Mexican citizens. Fuck the gringos up North.

Every little street vendor to large corporations pay. It's Cartels and the guy on the block. While their mainline is drug trade, Cartels also turn to extortion when times are tough. The avocado trade is an example when the screws tightened awhile back.

[Thunder52]

I wouldn't recommend to anyone to drive in Tijuana without insurance but I disagree with your comment. Having driven in Tijuana since I was a teen and for a long time living in Tijuana for a majority of that time I never had Mexican insurance. At no time did a police officer ask me if I had insurance and when I was hit by another driver in Tijuana without it the police never gave me a hard time. The other driver didn't have it as well so she had to pay me the amount to fix my car on the spot or they would impound her car.

Now if you are some American that doesn't speak any Spanish and some cop wants to try and make some money from you they could say some stuff to scare you but I just wanted to give you my experience.

On a side note for those that drive in Tijuana they just changed the law back to allowing tinted windows so don't let the cops pull you over and try to get money from you for having tinted windows when they were like that from the factory. The law still doesn't allow the front windows to be tinted like the California law but just a heads up for some of you.

Being insured while driving in Mexico comes under prevailing security wisdom. Security is most effective in layers. In this case, insurance is just that. A layer in security, not a complete solution. As a "gabacho", "Pocho" living in Baja, I'd rather pay $120/ year for the rest of my life and never use it, than not have it and wish I did. Call it due diligence.

[Thunder52]

A guy was shot in front of Senda Norte just across the street from HK corner, guy who did it was driving a motorcycle, I was surprised because people was still getting in and out from the bars, of course the&G was getting no business, things were hot but as long no one goes victim of a stray bullet we all good.

Sounds like a hit.

[Jackie888]

A guy was shot in front of Senda Norte just across the street from HK corner, guy who did it was driving a motorcycle, I was surprised because people was still getting in and out from the bars, of course the&G was getting no business, things were hot but as long no one goes victim of a stray bullet we all good.

Any word whether the victim was a HK employee? They seem to be targets of shootings lately. HK employees also tend to hold meetings in the parking lot next to Senda Norte. BTW that is a really good restaurant.

[Bochi]

A guy was shot in front of Senda Norte just across the street from HK corner, guy who did it was driving a motorcycle, I was surprised because people was still getting in and out from the bars, of course the&G was getting no business, things were hot but as long no one goes victim of a stray bullet we all good.

[TheMan31]

Tijuana Montserrat Caballero is making a quasi attempt to curb the cartel violence. She has told them they can continue to operate if they do not harm innocent civilians. This is a short sighted approach. I have heard rumors that the cartel members have been extorting money from businesses in the Zona. Part of the problem is that Mexico's president AMLO is burying his head in the sand. Tijuana's mayor has asked for more support from the state and federal government. For now coordinating things among various law enforcement agencies would help a lot. The other issue is a better allocation of resources. I don't see the point of have 6 or 7 soldiers ride around in a truck.

https://news.yahoo.com/montserrat-ca...010000729.html

Yea good luck with all of that.

[Jackie888]

Tijuana Montserrat Caballero is making a quasi attempt to curb the cartel violence. She has told them they can continue to operate if they do not harm innocent civilians. This is a short sighted approach. I have heard rumors that the cartel members have been extorting money from businesses in the Zona. Part of the problem is that Mexico's president AMLO is burying his head in the sand. Tijuana's mayor has asked for more support from the state and federal government. For now coordinating things among various law enforcement agencies would help a lot. The other issue is a better allocation of resources. I don't see the point of have 6 or 7 soldiers ride around in a truck.

https://news.yahoo.com/montserrat-ca...010000729.html

For the cartels, the number one money maker is controlling the Tijuana corridor to send contraband (drugs) into the USA. Nothing is even close. Cash businesses like HK is really a drop in the bucket and is more valuable as a money laundering operation. For years the cartels were not bothered with because actual victims were just rich gringos in the USA in their BMWs. It looks like Cabellero is going back to this model and saying that the Cartels is free to operate as long as they don't harm innocent Mexican citizens. Fuck the gringos up North.

[Hargow20]

Tijuana Montserrat Caballero is making a quasi attempt to curb the cartel violence. She has told them they can continue to operate if they do not harm innocent civilians. This is a short sighted approach. I have heard rumors that the cartel members have been extorting money from businesses in the Zona. Part of the problem is that Mexico's president AMLO is burying his head in the sand. Tijuana's mayor has asked for more support from the state and federal government. For now coordinating things among various law enforcement agencies would help a lot. The other issue is a better allocation of resources. I don't see the point of have 6 or 7 soldiers ride around in a truck.

https://news.yahoo.com/montserrat-ca...010000729.html

Employing illegal workers may cause administrative fines but not prison sentences. Trafficking humans for sex is far more serious federal charge.

Adelita was charged with employing underaged sex workers, which is a serious federal criminal offense, among other charges. The owners and managers are in deep shit in CDMX. I doubt Adelita will ever reopen under the same name.

Fir decades there are extensive underground networks of pimps and brokers in Mexico recruiting and pimping. They do a lot more business than putas bars in La Zona. This I gathered from the news and heard from reliable sources.

It's common knowledge among the Mexicans I know. Mexican government must know what's going on all the time but has not taken any actions. They prefer shutting down putas bars for maximum publicity.

It's depre4 ssing to think of all ugly, illegal and immoral activities going on as normal life in Mexico.

[Captain Solo]

Employing illegal workers may cause administrative fines but not prison sentences. Trafficking humans for sex is far more serious federal charge.

Adelita was charged with employing underaged sex workers, which is a serious federal criminal offense, among other charges. The owners and managers are in deep shit in CDMX. I doubt Adelita will ever reopen under the same name.

Fir decades there are extensive underground networks of pimps and brokers in Mexico recruiting and pimping. They do a lot more business than putas bars in La Zona. This I gathered from the news and heard from reliable sources.

It's common knowledge among the Mexicans I know. Mexican government must know what's going on all the time but has not taken any actions. They prefer shutting down putas bars for maximum publicity.

It's depre4 ssing to think of all ugly, illegal and immoral activities going on as normal life in Mexico.

[Sol12]

The reason to have insurance while in Mexico is to reduce the potential liability, fines, jail time, and hassle by one layer. My (Mexican) agent says insurance in Mexico is mandatory. But 90% of drivers aren't insured. But as an Expat, you can get hassled and bitten to no end should you be involved in an accident, at fault or not, if you ain't got it.

I wouldn't recommend to anyone to drive in Tijuana without insurance but I disagree with your comment. Having driven in Tijuana since I was a teen and for a long time living in Tijuana for a majority of that time I never had Mexican insurance. At no time did a police officer ask me if I had insurance and when I was hit by another driver in Tijuana without it the police never gave me a hard time. The other driver didn't have it as well so she had to pay me the amount to fix my car on the spot or they would impound her car.

Now if you are some American that doesn't speak any Spanish and some cop wants to try and make some money from you they could say some stuff to scare you but I just wanted to give you my experience.

On a side note for those that drive in Tijuana they just changed the law back to allowing tinted windows so don't let the cops pull you over and try to get money from you for having tinted windows when they were like that from the factory. The law still doesn't allow the front windows to be tinted like the California law but just a heads up for some of you.

[Thunder52]

Anyway, nobody gets arrested on some foreigner's say-so, and the Sindacatura has zero to do with car accidents.

The reason to have insurance while in Mexico is to reduce the potential liability, fines, jail time, and hassle by one layer. My (Mexican) agent says insurance in Mexico is mandatory. But 90% of drivers aren't insured. But as an Expat, you can get hassled and bitten to no end should you be involved in an accident, at fault or not, if you ain't got it.

[Thunder52]

GNP's 800 contact number listed on the insurance policy is unassigned. Calls to it's number in Mexico went unanswered.

What would happen if you get in a big accident with lots of damages and injuries? Auto insurance in Mexico is a big joke.

AAA told me to visit its local rep. Worst case I just sue AAA for selling a fake policy. Will get a $3,000 settlement from AA then high tail down to my body shop friend in Tijuana for $100 paint job hehe.

It's best to have insurance and to get it from a reputable agent. PM me for that resource.

[Captain Solo]

GNP's 800 contact number listed on the insurance policy is unassigned. Calls to it's number in Mexico went unanswered.

What would happen if you get in a big accident with lots of damages and injuries? Auto insurance in Mexico is a big joke.

AAA told me to visit its local rep. Worst case I just sue AAA for selling a fake policy. Will get a $3,000 settlement from AA then high tail down to my body shop friend in Tijuana for $100 paint job hehe.

[Hargow20]

Probably nothing to worry about unless you had something on you. With all national guard around the police will not shake people down. The police no longer have officers waiting at the west end of the alley waiting to stop people for no reason now that their is military patrols around.

About 4 pm. Lots of trucks around doing sweeps. I felt like I would have gotten wrapped up in it if I stayed out longer.