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[Captain Solo]

Among the newly infected people in Provincetown, Mass over July 4th weekend, the CDC found 75% had been vaccinated.

How do you explain that fact?

[Member #4730]

I planned another trip in about 2 weeks. I'm expecting circumstances may change. But I'm fine with it if it's something like the speakeasies.

I've read a lot of figures and opinions on here. Particularly regarding Delta and reinfection. What I'd like to add is just be aware of what the figures actually represent. The number that is being pushed heavily by the US govt is the number of vaccinated that have caught it is small. That is correct. But it's extremely misleading for several reasons. First, we don't measure the numbers the same way for unvaccinated. A better metric would be identifying how many of the newly infected have been vaccinated. That would give us a better estimate of vaccine effectiveness. But that's not really possible. As others have said, vaccine efficacy may wane. And we certainly undercount asymptomatic vaccinated cases because they aren't even testing in many cases.

The other thing I'd highlight, and admittedly, I take these figures with a grain of salt, but Baja is not yet showing the spike that some states in the US are seeing.

In the end, do what you are comfortable with. If you have underlying health issues or an overwhelming concern of infection, wait it out. The girls will be there on the other side. I'll be sure to keep them warm for you. LOL.

Good for you man! The chicas are waiting for you as well. Who knows what the real numbers are for this virus? Do you believe Russia, China, and other countries are actually providing accurate data? Also a news article said the C19 tests couldn't detect difference between C19 and flu. I'm sure Baja has higher rates, but who is accurately testing everyone? Live your life and enjoy the chicas 😜.

"It is not death that a man should fear, but he should fear never beginning to live. ".

Marcus Aurelius.

[Dcrist0527]

I planned another trip in about 2 weeks. I'm expecting circumstances may change. But I'm fine with it if it's something like the speakeasies.

I've read a lot of figures and opinions on here. Particularly regarding Delta and reinfection. What I'd like to add is just be aware of what the figures actually represent. The number that is being pushed heavily by the US govt is the number of vaccinated that have caught it is small. That is correct. But it's extremely misleading for several reasons. First, we don't measure the numbers the same way for unvaccinated. A better metric would be identifying how many of the newly infected have been vaccinated. That would give us a better estimate of vaccine effectiveness. But that's not really possible. As others have said, vaccine efficacy may wane. And we certainly undercount asymptomatic vaccinated cases because they aren't even testing in many cases.

The other thing I'd highlight, and admittedly, I take these figures with a grain of salt, but Baja is not yet showing the spike that some states in the US are seeing.

In the end, do what you are comfortable with. If you have underlying health issues or an overwhelming concern of infection, wait it out. The girls will be there on the other side. I'll be sure to keep them warm for you. LOL.

[Captain Solo]

Jackie888,

Did not hear you got Covid.

When and where did you get it?

How long were you out?

[Member #4730]

Don't know about others. But my long term effect is brain fog. My short term memory is shot. I am having difficulties remembering basic shit like names or people or things. I can describe them, but I sometimes forget what the fuck they are called. Never happened before.

You're just getting older. My memory is shot as well. I have to write shit down or put it on my calendar. If I lost my phone, then my life would be f'd. Im bad with names, but can recall details. It really sucks when you meet a regular and forget their name, but you know they like their clit licked or finger fucked. I draw a blank when I have to recall their name. Just have to remember their preferences. Plus we are inundated with so much information at our fingertips. Grandparents were able to recall minute details of when they were kids, but I bet if they had smartphones and internet, shit would just get brain dumped.

[Jackie888]

The black mucus coughing out of your throat are dead tissues and cells in your lungs destroyed by the infection. Lungs and liver tissues may be scarred such that they may not work properly.

The virus may also stay permanently in the organs, dormant or active. It may be active and attacking but the body may not produce enough antibodies to fight therefore causing no symptoms. Nobody knows the long-term-effects of CoVid-19.

An acquaintance contracted Hepatitis see with mild symptoms, went through chemotherapies but found side effects too harsh and stopped. The treatment In 2 years cancer was found in the liver. Surgeons removed chunks of cancerous liver. AFAIK It has not spread to other organs, but the virus is still in there attacking.

Don't know about others. But my long term effect is brain fog. My short term memory is shot. I am having difficulties remembering basic shit like names or people or things. I can describe them, but I sometimes forget what the fuck they are called. Never happened before.

[Captain Solo]

The black mucus coughing out of your throat are dead tissues and cells in your lungs destroyed by the infection. Lungs and liver tissues may be scarred such that they may not work properly.

The virus may also stay permanently in the organs, dormant or active. It may be active and attacking but the body may not produce enough antibodies to fight therefore causing no symptoms. Nobody knows the long-term-effects of CoVid-19.

An acquaintance contracted Hepatitis see with mild symptoms, went through chemotherapies but found side effects too harsh and stopped. The treatment In 2 years cancer was found in the liver. Surgeons removed chunks of cancerous liver. AFAIK It has not spread to other organs, but the virus is still in there attacking.

[Member #4730]

I've got to be immune to covid. I'm pretty sure I had it in March 2020 at the start of this mess. I'm vaccinated since March. Just spent three weeks in Eastern Europe partying like a college kid on spring break. The vaccination rates there are real low. I put on a mask maybe 3 times in three weeks. Had to have a negative PCR test to fly back. Was a little worried I'm not going to lie. But my test came out negative. Partied in Tijuana a bunch during the pandemic and never caught covid.

What part of Eastern Europe? I've been obsessed with Romanian music and not sure why. Beautiful women and music. My friends tell me I should go visit Eastern European countries. One is married to a Hungarian.

[Gregyyr]

Greggy,

Would be so nice to sit in the open air of a leafy and breezy courtyard romancing hot and sexy Mexican girls. During the shut down last year Hotel Korea erected a huge tent over its parking lot with fans blowing, $2 beers and girls sent over from Chavelas and HK. That was a healthy and sexy set up. I liked it a lot. But when the bars reopened, girls went back to their bars, left Korea with a few old and ugly putas.

Coahuila and the alley should be closed to car traffic and bars put up tents out on sidewalks for guys and girls to party all night. The weather is warm and dry enough. Lots of bars and restaurants in So Cal have outdoors courtyards with space heaters for al fresco dining.

During the shutdown and before vaccs I went to speakeasies and bars just about every weekend but did not get infected. It's now known vacced people can get reinfected with new highly transmissive variant the and spread the virus, even asymptomatic. My immune system is pretty strong, but It's still risky to me. I don't want to get knocked out for months or die..

Would have liked to have visited Hotel Korea. (don't know where it's at) but sounds like they had a good thing going. Coahuila would be Great if they shut it down. Or at least on the weekends etc. Makes so much sense but I am just an ignorant gringo.

G.

[Member #4722]

Thanks for the feedback Captain. I think I am pretty much on the same page as you. Two weeks ago was different as I assume two weeks from now will be. I feel it would be better in my case to wait until after Labor Day to see where things stand.

I have tried being in denial but as you say going back to Square 1 (isolation) doesn't seem to be a bad idea right now. At least for a few weeks to see where this Delta is headed.

Sad to think this could have been avoided in part with a better response to the vaccine program.

And YES you are somewhat protected with the vaccine from Delta but not 100% and we unfortunately have many examples of this now.

I don't want to be burdened anymore by Covid than I already have been. I'd rather be chill at home "bored" than busy with an illness.

I've got to be immune to covid. I'm pretty sure I had it in March 2020 at the start of this mess. I'm vaccinated since March. Just spent three weeks in Eastern Europe partying like a college kid on spring break. The vaccination rates there are real low. I put on a mask maybe 3 times in three weeks. Had to have a negative PCR test to fly back. Was a little worried I'm not going to lie. But my test came out negative. Partied in Tijuana a bunch during the pandemic and never caught covid.

[Member #4730]

The Korea bar / hotel, that is like a Hong Kong lite, was originally a good set up with airflow cheap bear. By March, the beer wasn't as cheap, and the put up ceiling walls at this point it has no more air flow than any other bar. HK is smart to keep it open as you never know what will be closed down next by government. Los Angeles was starting to close down last weekend. San Diego still not requiring masks.

Where there is a will there is a way. I noticed HK 10th floor was setup with bar and stools. Rizo had some party on higher floors, I was on 4th and could hear loud music. I especially like they played Duran Duran "Come Undone", but was with regular so didn't check it out. Not sure of Adelita or Chicago setups. It would be extremely packed if they were to squish everyone in tiny space. They might as well setup poles and bars on the street at that point or chicas figure out how to utilize tinder, pof, SA, etc.

[Dogers69]

The Korea bar / hotel, that is like a Hong Kong lite, was originally a good set up with airflow cheap bear. By March, the beer wasn't as cheap, and the put up ceiling walls at this point it has no more air flow than any other bar. HK is smart to keep it open as you never know what will be closed down next by government. Los Angeles was starting to close down last weekend. San Diego still not requiring masks.

[Jinxx]

Thanks for the feedback Captain. I think I am pretty much on the same page as you. Two weeks ago was different as I assume two weeks from now will be. I feel it would be better in my case to wait until after Labor Day to see where things stand.

I have tried being in denial but as you say going back to Square 1 (isolation) doesn't seem to be a bad idea right now. At least for a few weeks to see where this Delta is headed.

Sad to think this could have been avoided in part with a better response to the vaccine program.

And YES you are somewhat protected with the vaccine from Delta but not 100% and we unfortunately have many examples of this now.

I don't want to be burdened anymore by Covid than I already have been. I'd rather be chill at home "bored" than busy with an illness.

If you can afford to sit home and chill, or work from home I recommend you do it. This last time I got covid straight put my dick in the dirt. I was in really bad shape there for a whole week. Now I feel fully recovered but in the morning when I clear my throat I'm coughing up dark red almost black colored flem (sorry too much information) which I assume was the gunk that built up in my covid infected lungs and is finally clearing out of my system. This delta shit ain't no punk.

[Jackie888]

If you're vaccinated you should be ok. But if you want extra assurance get the third shot.

In my case now that I've caught covid twice I probably have extra strong natural antibodies built up in my system. From what I've read natural antibodies are good for about 4-6 months (wish I would've known that before, I would've got vaccinated) so if covid is still raging around Nov. -Dec. Then I'll go ahead and get vaccinated since that'll be about the time my natural antibodies start to expire.

What do you guys think? Does that assessment sound right?

One last thing, I don't know the exact numbers but reports I've seen say like 90%-99% of people currently hospitalized for covid are the unvaccinated. People who are properly vaccinated seem to be relatively safe, so far.

I say fuck it. Get the booster 3nd shot as soon as you can. You didn't die after the 2nd shot. You're not going to die after the 3nd shot. It is free. Getting the booster after you get the covid twice should give you super immunization.

That is what I am planning. I got the Covid. Got rejected for the Covid trials before the vaccine was rolled out. And got it ASAP. I'm sleeping in line the moment the booster is available. I'll probably sign up for booster trials if it is offered. I can use the stipend on chicas.

[Captain Solo]

75% of infected people in Provincetown had been vaccinated.

US stats I read showed among people who were hospitalized and died in the US, 90% were unvaccinated, that leaves 10% vaccinated but still died. Stats may not be complete right now. We don't know what's really happening in Asia, Africa and South America.

Your body may respond to vaccination and produce antibodies, but if you are infected and your immunity system is weak, it may not produce enough antibodies to fight off the virus and you can lose. The white Blood Count can predict how well your body can fight. I don't want to take the risks to find out how well my body fights.

Looks like we will have to take repeat vaccinations every few months for old and new variants as they evolve.