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  1. #2326
    Quote Originally Posted by Artisttyp  [View Original Post]
    What's the confusion about?

    Uber $120 RT (2 x's a month) = $240 to get to Tijuana and back plus rent plus expenses.

    Coaster / Trolley 3 hrs.

    DRIVE 35 minutes.

    I am moving closer to South Bay when my lease expires next Nov.

    Problem Solved.
    The confusion was simply me misinterpreting the meaning of "I live down here" in your previous post. I assumed it meant in SD or nearby. If you're north of SD and the only alternatives are the Coaster or Uber, then no. Public forms of transport are, indeed, at a minimum.

    I know the trolley from America Plaza to SY is about 45 minutes. Why does Coaster take over 2 hours? I ask because I used to take Amtrak on occasion. It was about 2 hours from Anaheim, then 45 minutes on the trolley from the SAN terminal.

  2. #2325
    Quote Originally Posted by Artisttyp  [View Original Post]
    There is no demand on the weekdays. His lot sits 2/3 empty. It puts a lot of unnecessary hurt on people. If there was a line waiting to get in it would make sense but there is no line. He does really well on weekends why not give back to the community during the week and why leave your lot 2/3 empty?
    Why, indeed. I have never parked there, and don't know the guy. I don't know what his P&L statement looks like, either. I do know that there is only a little room for altruism in the free market. Recent history is littered with examples of business who tried to operate under an altruistic model and failed. One that springs to mind is the place that served meals priced on the basis of one's ability to pay.

    It's possible that the gummint levied more taxes on parking lots, forcing a price increase. I've seen that at LAX in the past. Or, attendants' salaries are on the rise and the rates rise to compensate. The looming $15 minimum wage will have a knock-on effect. Or, who knows what else. These are hypothetical reasons why a business might raise prices.

    Regardless, the question is does the market support the price increase? If there is a surplus of available parking alternatives, the answer will be no, he will lose money during the week, and prices will fall. If there are no alternatives then the price increase will remain. It seems there are few parking alternatives in the area and it's very much a seller's market. I don't like it, you don't like it, nobody but the parking lot companies like it. Normally the free market would increase supply, but there are government forces involved so it doesn't.

    We can extend this to many facets of everyday life. I travel and I absolutely hate being at the mercy of shops at airports. A $4 sandwich anywhere else is $12 at the airport. A $1 bag of pretzels is $5. Even when the airport is slow prices remain the same. Why can't they give back to the community when there are few travelers? Why are prices so high? Obviously they have a monopoly. You're a captive. Don't like it? Screw you. Starve. The question is, why is there a monopoly? A quasi-government body has given them exclusive rights to operate at the airport and they take full advantage. My point is that most of the time when the free market fails is due to the actions of some governing body or other. Greed (or at least the ability to take advantage of the situation) only flourishes in this sort of environment. Were this not the case, some enterprising person would be going hammer and tongs building a parking structure at the border.

    In other words, don't hate the system, hate the assholes running (read rigging) the system.

  3. #2324
    Quote Originally Posted by StRobert  [View Original Post]
    If you live in the Los Angeles area take the Greyhound bus to San Ysidro station (right next to pedeast crossing and trolley station). Greyhound Express travel time about 3 hours only one stop in San Diego and the price is around $ 40 R / T. Regular Greyhound bus stops in San Diego, Oceanside, Santa Ana, Anaheim, Long Beach about 4 hours travel time. Link www.greyhound.com.
    I knew someone who used to take the $1 bus from LA directly to the border. That's the way to go!

  4. #2323
    Quote Originally Posted by Artisttyp  [View Original Post]
    What's the confusion about?

    Uber $120 RT (2 x's a month) = $240 to get to Tijuana and back plus rent plus expenses.

    Coaster / Trolley 3 hrs.

    DRIVE 35 minutes.

    I am moving closer to South Bay when my lease expires next Nov.

    Problem Solved.
    If you live in the Los Angeles area take the Greyhound bus to San Ysidro station (right next to pedeast crossing and trolley station). Greyhound Express travel time about 3 hours only one stop in San Diego and the price is around $ 40 R / T. Regular Greyhound bus stops in San Diego, Oceanside, Santa Ana, Anaheim, Long Beach about 4 hours travel time. Link www.greyhound.com.

  5. #2322
    Quote Originally Posted by Phordphan  [View Original Post]
    Wait, I'm confused. You live in the SD area? And you have a car? Can't you just park wherever you currently park and Uber / bus to the train / trolley station?
    What's the confusion about?

    Uber $120 RT (2 x's a month) = $240 to get to Tijuana and back plus rent plus expenses.

    Coaster / Trolley 3 hrs.

    DRIVE 35 minutes.

    I am moving closer to South Bay when my lease expires next Nov.

    Problem Solved.

  6. #2321
    Quote Originally Posted by Phordphan  [View Original Post]
    It's not in your face anything, really, it's the simple law of supply and demand.
    There is no demand on the weekdays. His lot sits 2/3 empty. It puts a lot of unnecessary hurt on people. If there was a line waiting to get in it would make sense but there is no line. He does really well on weekends why not give back to the community during the week and why leave your lot 2/3 empty?

  7. #2320
    Quote Originally Posted by Phordphan  [View Original Post]
    Wait, I'm confused. You live in the SD area? And you have a car? Can't you just park wherever you currently park and Uber / bus to the train / trolley station?
    If more people took advantage of public transportation there wouldn't be as big a problem with parking.

  8. #2319
    You can park legally for three days in streets. If you park in front of the houses near the beach it would be a week, probly three weeks till a neighbor calls it in. Take bus to trolley line. I don't pay to park in any state or any country. The 8 dollars for 12 hours at the border was first time I paid to park in decades. I only did it twice so I could nap in the car for few hours after drinking.

  9. #2318
    Quote Originally Posted by Artisttyp  [View Original Post]
    Thanks I live down here and am well aware of trolley parking BUT its only for 24 hrs. I need 4- 7 days parking.
    Wait, I'm confused. You live in the SD area? And you have a car? Can't you just park wherever you currently park and Uber / bus to the train / trolley station?

  10. #2317
    Quote Originally Posted by Artisttyp  [View Original Post]
    Yes correct. Things just got more expensive depending on how you roll.

    For me an increase of $9 per day. Those extra 2 hours mean a lot because they do not complete a full 24 hrs. Multiplied by 3 days plus taxi to border and back = Too Much and much more than I was spending or am willing to spend. If you think $45 for 1 day plus 17 hrs is more than fair that's on you. I see it as a waste product of our economic system. A sewage run off of what's wrong with America. It's called IN YOUR FACE capitalism.

    In Mexico cops will reach into your pocket and take your shit. In America Frank Cocksucker's will nudge the hours or someone will come up with new rules or regulations to jack you the fuck up. If I get jacked at least I want to be strong armed and robbed face to face no pussy footing around like we do in America.

    3rd world shitholes don't do this to their people. Why the fuck can't I park for a reasonable rate in an EMPTY parking lot? Because COCKSUCKER FRANK is a pig.

    The majority of our ills are MAN MADE. Don't hate the universe HATE the men that built it.

    No disrespect to those that work or have worked for Govt. especially law enforcement and military. Thank You for your service.

    End of rant.
    It's not in your face anything, really, it's the simple law of supply and demand. Adam Smith's invisible hand at work. Houses, parking spaces, or coffee. If demand exceeds supply, prices will rise. Price is the method used to allocate scarce resources. The other way would be for some unelected bureaucrat to mandate some price he considered to be "fair. " We've seen how well that's working in Venezuela. But I digress.

    If the market won't bear Frank's price increase then he will lose money, go broke, whatever, and prices will fall to their point of equilibrium. Greed has little to do with it. I'm as greedy as the next guy. I think my rates should be a lot closer to $1 K / hour. But if I greedily try to charge that, somebody else will step up and do what I do for a fraction of that price. My greed is kept in check by the free market.

    On the flip side, if I can sell an item for, say, $100, why would I consider selling it for $50? I used to attend Angels games quite frequently. Maybe 3+ times per month. Then prices became silly, and I refused to drop over $100/ game for upper level seats. Greed on Artie Moreno's part? Perhaps. But they sell the seats to somebody, so why should I get special dispensation? I'm not happy about it, but there it is.

    Now to your point about problems being man-made, absolutely. There is a HUGE dearth of parking near the border. Much of that problem can be laid at the feet of Uncle Sam, who sucked up a giant chunk of available parking to expand the border facilities. There isn't a greed problem at the border, there is a serious supply problem. To exacerbate, I'm sure there are some folks who realize this and would like to build more parking. Why don't they? You know attorneys are involved somehow. Maybe buying up a couple old buildings and razing them, then paving the lots, would help. But there must be some wacko somewhere who would object on some environmental grounds or other. Add that to the fact that CA land is so freaking expensive, it may not be economically feasible to buy land and create more parking. The price might wind up being even more expensive than today.

    I avoid the problem completely by simply driving into Mexico and parking there. Maybe not a perfect solution, but it beats fighting the parking situation in SD.

  11. #2316
    Quote Originally Posted by WombatEd2  [View Original Post]
    The MTS has been converting some of their parking space for other usage. I got to Palomar station last Saturday around 11:00 AM, and there was only one open parking space. (Luckily, that was all I needed.).
    That is brutal. Thats a huge lot.

    SD has parking problems for sure.

  12. #2315

    Palomar Station

    The MTS has been converting some of their parking space for other usage. I got to Palomar station last Saturday around 11:00 AM, and there was only one open parking space. (Luckily, that was all I needed.).

  13. #2314
    Quote Originally Posted by StRobert  [View Original Post]
    Every trolley station (Blue Line) in Chula Vista and maybe National City (along Interstate-5) has free parking for 24 hours, but you must use the trolley system. The ticket costs $ 2. 50 one way or ($ 1. 25 over 60 or 62 year old). Travel time to the border and trolley station in San Ysidro about 20 min. The last trolley from San Ysidro to San Diego 1258 AM and the next trolley will start service around 430 AM. I always park on the trolley parking lot and never have a problem. Link to San Diego transit www.sdmts.com.
    Thanks I live down here and am well aware of trolley parking BUT its only for 24 hrs. I need 4- 7 days parking.

  14. #2313
    Quote Originally Posted by Artisttyp  [View Original Post]
    Frank the American Cocksucker who owns Border Station Parking has now shortened your $9 weekday rate from 12 hrs to 10 hrs. That means all you guys willing to cough up $36 for basically an overnighter have to light a match to $45 or so in your wallet. Meanwhile the lot sits basically empty on weekdays.

    I get asked if I am scared to go into Mexico. NO MY DEAR I get scared to return to the USA.

    I hate America more and more everyday. I totally feel you Bernie Sanders crowd. I don't blame you at all. Imagine giving some cockuscker $45 to park in an empty lot when I used to pay $7.

    FRANK has his full name listed in Yelp reviews in case anyone needs it.
    Every trolley station (Blue Line) in Chula Vista and maybe National City (along Interstate-5) has free parking for 24 hours, but you must use the trolley system. The ticket costs $ 2. 50 one way or ($ 1. 25 over 60 or 62 year old). Travel time to the border and trolley station in San Ysidro about 20 min. The last trolley from San Ysidro to San Diego 1258 AM and the next trolley will start service around 430 AM. I always park on the trolley parking lot and never have a problem. Link to San Diego transit www.sdmts.com.

  15. #2312
    Quote Originally Posted by Artisttyp  [View Original Post]
    Why the fuck can't I park for a reasonable rate in an EMPTY parking lot?.
    I drive in with my quasi-wingman & park in LZ, so I don't know the parking situation on the US side.

    But I wonder, aren't there other parking lots you can use?

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