Crime, Safety, and the Police

[SeaBeeJoe]

So if a girl that you cared about called crying, alone and scared you wouldn't do anything to help. Seems odd coming from someone that served in the military as I always think you help those that cannot help themselves. I do agree with your point about Mexican citizens not being able to arm themselves, but I would say that many Mexican Nationals would blame more the US because we are the ones that are demanding the drugs. So that has given the cartels the money and power over the government. Until both sides decide to cut the head off the dragon this will only get worse.

I don't have any girlfriends down in Tijuana and definitely no hooker ones. But hey enjoy, in the military I was armed and down there you can even carry a knife. You go be a tough guy Rambo with the cartels and I will chill out up in the USA with my gun collection. If the Cartels try to do shit up here most residents are armed an ready to defend ourselves. Have a nice day.

[LuvMexicanas]

I knew models that were kidnaped, had their toes broken and continually rapped till death.

Curious who these models were. Could you elaborate on what happened?

[Dcrist0527]

Interesting choice of words. I don't recall anyone denying COVID just those that wanted to have a discussion on the fact that locking down the world for something that has a low death relate was the correct thing. Then when the vaccine was available that some didn't see the use on forcing it on society because it was not tested over enough time to prove its usefulness or what side affects it may have. Now almost 3 years later and what has happened with inflation and the effect on the poorest in the world I think most wouldn't do the same if we could go back in time.

I was living in Tijuana back when things were crazy but it wasn't as bad as the news portrayed, with this latest episode I can only feel for those in Tijuana and how people in some of the larger cities in the US feel now letting the criminals run the city because the leadership in charge don't know how to fight back.

In general the Zona is the safest area to visit if you are just going to the clubs and going back to the border. If you want to go thru life scared of everything then don't go in the ocean because you will be eaten by a shark, don't get on a plane because you will crash, don't drive your car because you are ruining the earth, don't eat meat because cows farts are ruining the earth and last of all don't go to Tijuana to have fun because some low life pretend tough guys are going to kill you.

Spot on! But clearly to some, you either kneel at the altar of fear or you are a "denier." That's not a criticism of anyone in particular. It's more a commentary on the power of fear. And again, speaking generally, I find it interesting how fear permeates certain aspects of our monger culture. Long before Covid, going to Hong Kong had its own health risks. Most overlook the real STD risk when sleeping with working girls in a Mexican border town. Even the safest monger had to accept or overlook the risks. The difference now, at the risk of sounding like a conspiracy theorist, is our media.

Tijuana has a reputation, rightfully so. But the fear does not match reality. In the last decade, how many innocent gringos were mowed down in the streets? It happens and awareness and information are vital. Likewise, how many mongers keeled over after catching Covid from a dancer? It's probably happened. But I can confirm there were 100 or so guys in the speakeasies nightly throughout the height of Covid. But the media makes us feel like the risk is FAR more than reality would prove.

Again, I'm not criticizing anyone's risk appetite. I'll be the first to admit that my risk tolerance is probably too high. But I am shocked by some of the opposite end of the spectrum when the nature of our monger culture is already very risky, even for the safest activities. But what does get me irate is how we allow the media to lead people around with their fear mongering. Case in point: how many died in Tijuana Friday night? I've seen some mis-reported numbers on this board, confusing a Juarez incident with Tijuana. To read the news accounts, cartels were running rampant through the streets, killing indiscriminately. Reality: Friday night's homicide totals were well below an average night in Tijuana.

I'm just trying to say: balance the media hysteria (which comes from selling you news) with actual fact. Be judicious about accepting social media regurgitation. Be informed and then you can apply your risk appetite appropriately.

[Sol12]

Your friend is a special kind of crazy, I hope he stays safe because as a vet of 2 wars (Operation Desert Storm and Operation Enduring Freedom) I can tell you fuck that shit. No Para Rescueman going to bail you out if something bad happens to you. At least where I live I got an amory and the knowledge in the use of firearms to protect myself. Fucking Mexico won't allow me to have a butter knife LOL. Mexico is a fucked place where the bad guys get military grade hardware and the regular joes can't even carry a knife or pepper spray for protection. I feel bad for the regular Mexican National. Their Government is to blame as always.

So if a girl that you cared about called crying, alone and scared you wouldn't do anything to help. Seems odd coming from someone that served in the military as I always think you help those that cannot help themselves. I do agree with your point about Mexican citizens not being able to arm themselves, but I would say that many Mexican Nationals would blame more the US because we are the ones that are demanding the drugs. So that has given the cartels the money and power over the government. Until both sides decide to cut the head off the dragon this will only get worse.

[Sol12]

So. Did you go out Friday night after the curfew and spend Saturday in the Zona Norte?

If you pay attention to most of my posts I spend very little time in Tijuana these last few years and I never go on a Friday or Saturday night because of crowds. If I was to go to Tijuana I would have still gone because I'm not going to let the cartels control my life. This is the same way I felt about COVID and not being afraid to go yo the Zona at that time as well even though the way they had the hotel set up at that time it was a higher risk since everyone was in closer proximity. Besides like I mentioned in my statement that the Zona would be the safest area to be in.

[SeaBeeJoe]

A brave wingman headed straight into the line of fire Friday night to comfort his crying, scared hk chica. He now goes by seal team chica sucka, blackops front line Hk soilder. This guy went radio silent til Sunday morning, so we got a little worried and thought about mounting a rescue mission. He finally replied and his report was a bit disappointing. A useless foot soldier as he was holed up in his chicas apartment. Cuddling. Main intel from his mission, streets are dead, no ubers, high military street show of force. He reports everything went down on Friday night, Saturday night was calm. Cartel statment was made Friday, so the cartels would know not to make another splash with 3350 (+350 flown in from mexico city) military troops in Tijuana in addition to the 2000 local police. The element of surprise is gone. Cbp crossing has been fairly empty, so it may be flooded this week with beach fest and regular travelers crossing back.

Your friend is a special kind of crazy, I hope he stays safe because as a vet of 2 wars (Operation Desert Storm and Operation Enduring Freedom) I can tell you fuck that shit. No Para Rescueman going to bail you out if something bad happens to you. At least where I live I got an amory and the knowledge in the use of firearms to protect myself. Fucking Mexico won't allow me to have a butter knife LOL. Mexico is a fucked place where the bad guys get military grade hardware and the regular joes can't even carry a knife or pepper spray for protection. I feel bad for the regular Mexican National. Their Government is to blame as always.

[DonCarlos1234]

CJNG left messages in Tijuana for government to release its leaders.

El Menchos wife was arrested in Sept for laundering. Expect escalation in violence until AMLO decides to release her.

Why do they arrest anyone? Jail? Seems like Duterte had a solution.

Living in Baja, I remember bullets bouncing off walls next to me during a kidnapping. I remember guns to my head while being carjacked. I knew models that were kidnaped, had their toes broken and continually rapped till death. Gun touting Mayor of Rosarito had balls. While a lot of gringos abandoned their condos on the beaches. The beaches were empty. MX survives, people learn to live with this because they have no choice. Hope it doesn't last too long this time. But if the beaches are empty, I like that.

[Jackie888]

Interesting choice of words. I don't recall anyone denying COVID just those that wanted to have a discussion on the fact that locking down the world for something that has a low death relate was the correct thing. Then when the vaccine was available that some didn't see the use on forcing it on society because it was not tested over enough time to prove its usefulness or what side affects it may have. Now almost 3 years later and what has happened with inflation and the effect on the poorest in the world I think most wouldn't do the same if we could go back in time.

I was living in Tijuana back when things were crazy but it wasn't as bad as the news portrayed, with this latest episode I can only feel for those in Tijuana and how people in some of the larger cities in the US feel now letting the criminals run the city because the leadership in charge don't know how to fight back.

In general the Zona is the safest area to visit if you are just going to the clubs and going back to the border. If you want to go thru life scared of everything then don't go in the ocean because you will be eaten by a shark, don't get on a plane because you will crash, don't drive your car because you are ruining the earth, don't eat meat because cows farts are ruining the earth and last of all don't go to Tijuana to have fun because some low life pretend tough guys are going to kill you.

So. Did you go out Friday night after the curfew and spend Saturday in the Zona Norte?

[Sol12]

On Saturday, Tijuana was a ghost town as one of my favorite described it. It was similar to the Covid lockdown except for the sounds of sirens and car fires. As far as I know the zona norte was closed down. I cannot recall the last time the zona norte was closed down, even during the height of the cartel wars back in the day (about 10 years ago or so) when several hundred people were kidnapped and tortured to death, and triggered a mass exodus of middle class Mexicans to Chula Vista. Back then I had to take a 357 with me as a good luck charm. Fuck, now most of the major clubs have metal detectors.

Sunday morning, the shelter in place order is still in effect. But the curfew was supposed to end per the original Cartel warnings. So which of you guys are willing to do the recon and report back? Don't we have a couple of guys who like BBFS and a couple of Covid deniers who are willing to explore the zona norte and tell us what is like at ground zero?

Interesting choice of words. I don't recall anyone denying COVID just those that wanted to have a discussion on the fact that locking down the world for something that has a low death relate was the correct thing. Then when the vaccine was available that some didn't see the use on forcing it on society because it was not tested over enough time to prove its usefulness or what side affects it may have. Now almost 3 years later and what has happened with inflation and the effect on the poorest in the world I think most wouldn't do the same if we could go back in time.

I was living in Tijuana back when things were crazy but it wasn't as bad as the news portrayed, with this latest episode I can only feel for those in Tijuana and how people in some of the larger cities in the US feel now letting the criminals run the city because the leadership in charge don't know how to fight back.

In general the Zona is the safest area to visit if you are just going to the clubs and going back to the border. If you want to go thru life scared of everything then don't go in the ocean because you will be eaten by a shark, don't get on a plane because you will crash, don't drive your car because you are ruining the earth, don't eat meat because cows farts are ruining the earth and last of all don't go to Tijuana to have fun because some low life pretend tough guys are going to kill you.

[Captain Solo]

CJNG left messages in Tijuana for government to release its leaders.

El Menchos wife was arrested in Sept for laundering. Expect escalation in violence until AMLO decides to release her.

[Hadez]

It will probably affect buisness and girls will be looking to maximize revenue on the sources they have available.

[MarksOfMagic]

So which of you guys are willing to do the recon and report back? Don't we have a couple of guys who like BBFS and a couple of Covid deniers who are willing to explore the zona norte and tell us what is like at ground zero?

A brave wingman headed straight into the line of fire Friday night to comfort his crying, scared hk chica. He now goes by seal team chica sucka, blackops front line Hk soilder. This guy went radio silent til Sunday morning, so we got a little worried and thought about mounting a rescue mission. He finally replied and his report was a bit disappointing. A useless foot soilder as he was holed up in his chicas apartment. Cuddling. Main intel from his mission, streets are dead, no ubers, high military street show of force. He reports everything went down on Friday night, Saturday night was calm. Cartel statment was made Friday, so the cartels would know not to make another splash with 3350 (+350 flown in from mexico city) military troops in Tijuana in addition to the 2000 local police. The element of surprise is gone. Cbp crossing has been fairly empty, so it may be flooded this week with beach fest and regular travelers crossing back.

[AmericanPi]

Go for the ASS EATERS. Those guys have nothing to lose.

But not the guys who write missives saying their HK girl or escort told them they were uniquely handsome and they had the biggest orgasm of their life and they snuggled and would do this all again for free (but ya better pay fool. This ass ain't free).

Those dudes will just report back that the cartels loved them and in fact they joined the cartel as honorary members and now the cartels recognize them and call them Mi Gringuito and bring them Starbucks each morning when they get up.

[Hadez]

Better to do your own recon.

As someone who has been to bad neighborhoods all over the world the first thing I would suggest is how many cars were burned? Where were they? Over what period of hours and days? Herd this morning 9 deaths so far. How many were targeted and how many random? How many different incidents involving deaths? How many incidents of body harm that did not result in deaths? I know we trying to determine if this heightened period is more risky than normal but it is prudent to be able to determine how does this compare to normal times? Are there always these number of incidents involving bodily harm?

I have worked near bad neighborhoods. Been in bad neighborhoods for a variety of reasons. I have had a gun placed against my head as I was robbed. BTW all the worst things have happened to me in the USA. Not saying that Mexico is safe. Just saying a lot of people ride the drama waves created by the media trying to get ratings / clicks / views and very people few actually look into the actual crime metrics.

Finally it is probably better for the average person to not even go even if someone with experience in these matters goes down and reports it is safe. These people smell fear like a shark senses food in the water. They will be drawn to the fear just like a shark is drawn.

On Saturday, Tijuana was a ghost town as one of my favorite described it. It was similar to the Covid lockdown except for the sounds of sirens and car fires. As far as I know the zona norte was closed down. I cannot recall the last time the zona norte was closed down, even during the height of the cartel wars back in the day (about 10 years ago or so) when several hundred people were kidnapped and tortured to death, and triggered a mass exodus of middle class Mexicans to Chula Vista. Back then I had to take a 357 with me as a good luck charm. Fuck, now most of the major clubs have metal detectors.

Sunday morning, the shelter in place order is still in effect. But the curfew was supposed to end per the original Cartel warnings. So which of you guys are willing to do the recon and report back? Don't we have a couple of guys who like BBFS and a couple of Covid deniers who are willing to explore the zona norte and tell us what is like at ground zero?

[Penetrador]

It's interesting to read all of this news of the violence.

Just the last few weeks the LA Times the New York Times both were running stories on how so many Americans who are remote working digital nomads were living in Mexico and enjoying the lower costs of living.

This is a reminder that nothing is free. You just pay another way. Wonder how those articles would read today.

I feel so bad for the innocent people of Mexico having to deal with this nonsense. They deserve better.

Make no Mistake about it Ill rather live in Mexico. And those Americans that left I bet have better lives now.