Crime, Safety, and the Police

[Jackie888]

I have read most of the recent reports regarding the caravan at the border, but have a different interest than being for or against immigration. I have not been to Tijuana in over 20 years, so obviously things have changed. What I am interested in is if the current immigration situation along the border makes it unwise for me to go there for a few days? I understand one needs to be smart about getting to / from the port of entry as well as walking around in the Zona Rosa. I plan to stay in the hotel above HK and make use of their transportation service. What concerns, if any, does the caravan pose in the Zona Rosa or in the immediate vicinity of the port of entry? I am in need of some stress relief and now live close enough to go just for a few days. I just want to better understand the risks of traveling there at this time given all the immigration problems Tijuana is currently experiencing. Thanks in advance for the advice.

Threats or delays of border crossing from the caravan is zero.

Threats from a gang turf war is high as gangs are competing.

Threats from muggings is low-medium.

Threats from ugly chicas price-gouging is high as the better chicas are on vacation.

Recommend you remain on alert when in the Zona Norte and not in one of the main clubs.

[BearBare]

Honestly, if a Cabinet member visits the border and 1000% if the President of the US (POTUS) visits the wall is really the largest threat to your crossing being swift and uneventful. I've been on the tarmac in the US and even Afghanistan, and when a cabinet member (eg Director of any three letter agency) or POTUS enters the area, time comes to a halt and life sucks for a Few hours (yes, hours).

So keep an eye on Trumps schedule in relation to your border cross day. This is not meant to be political, as I've waited on Bush, Obama and Bush Sr. And Clinton to pass.

[Dcrist0527]

I go down often, about every 3-7 days I'm guessing. Both PedEast and West. The real differences post 2018 caravan is Mexico takes it more seriously about allowing people back on the bridge to the PedWest CBP point. Sometimes they stop at the carousels and sometimes at the bottom of the ramps. I suspect you mean threat wise. There's no difference. I was going down even when they were trying to swarm the border. There's a much higher police presence but if you're an American with your passport ID card or Passport, your threats and procedures are unchanged. Albeit illegal crossings are a problem, its not at all a problem for cross-border tourists.

Wednesday was my first day here on this trip. I was here a month ago during the peak of the caravan. I felt that Tijuana was back to normal now. I thought the police presence was much less than a month ago. Though there was a heavy federal presence in the zona last night. They were feeling up a few gringos driving and tearing their SUVs apart, looking for something.

[BearBare]

I go down often, about every 3-7 days I'm guessing. Both PedEast and West. The real differences post 2018 caravan is Mexico takes it more seriously about allowing people back on the bridge to the PedWest CBP point. Sometimes they stop at the carousels and sometimes at the bottom of the ramps. I suspect you mean threat wise. There's no difference. I was going down even when they were trying to swarm the border. There's a much higher police presence but if you're an American with your passport ID card or Passport, your threats and procedures are unchanged. Albeit illegal crossings are a problem, its not at all a problem for cross-border tourists.

I have read most of the recent reports regarding the caravan at the border, but have a different interest than being for or against immigration. I have not been to Tijuana in over 20 years, so obviously things have changed. What I am interested in is if the current immigration situation along the border makes it unwise for me to go there for a few days? I understand one needs to be smart about getting to / from the port of entry as well as walking around in the Zona Rosa. I plan to stay in the hotel above HK and make use of their transportation service. What concerns, if any, does the caravan pose in the Zona Rosa or in the immediate vicinity of the port of entry? I am in need of some stress relief and now live close enough to go just for a few days. I just want to better understand the risks of traveling there at this time given all the immigration problems Tijuana is currently experiencing. Thanks in advance for the advice.

[LookingToSwing4]

I have read most of the recent reports regarding the caravan at the border, but have a different interest than being for or against immigration. I have not been to Tijuana in over 20 years, so obviously things have changed. What I am interested in is if the current immigration situation along the border makes it unwise for me to go there for a few days? I understand one needs to be smart about getting to / from the port of entry as well as walking around in the Zona Rosa. I plan to stay in the hotel above HK and make use of their transportation service. What concerns, if any, does the caravan pose in the Zona Rosa or in the immediate vicinity of the port of entry? I am in need of some stress relief and now live close enough to go just for a few days. I just want to better understand the risks of traveling there at this time given all the immigration problems Tijuana is currently experiencing. Thanks in advance for the advice.

[StRobert]

"The city's year closed with more than 2,500 killings" "While the numbers are higher than ever, law enforcement authorities say most of the homicides are targeted and linked to the lucrative neighborhood drug trade, as dealers fight over street corners. Primarily at stake is the city's methamphetamine market, and to a lesser degree heroin sales, they say.

"From what we're seeing, it's definitely the street sales in Tijuana that they're struggling over," said Bo Morris, Special Agent with the USA Drug Enforcement Administration" link to the article here https://www.sandiegouniontribune.com...226-story.html.

[StRobert]

"Border Patrol fires tear gas again after 100 caravan migrants try to cross over from Tijuana to San Diego on New Year's Eve" link https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...Years-Eve.html.

[MongerHunger]

Problem is your statements are directly contradicted by quantified statistics the CBP publishes. The number of crossings has plunged and the number of detentions for illegal crossing is at 46 year low.

https://www.npr.org/2017/12/05/56854...it-46-year-low

The thing is that there is a problem with all his statements. Mostly made-up, fantasized, delusional stories and reports while craving attention from grown men in this forum.

[BearBare]

Problem is your statements are directly contradicted by quantified statistics the CBP publishes. The number of crossings has plunged and the number of detentions for illegal crossing is at 46 year low.

https://www.npr.org/2017/12/05/56854...it-46-year-low

I understand in cities you get foreign languages. My point was in referance to anyone who thinks those caravans we're stopped, will be stopped, slowed down etc. Including the folks that want a wall. The entire earth population is welcome to move to USA today, and work for several years till denied asylum. And border patrol is seeing huge increases, and legally they are allowed here, and it has changed entire towns on the east coast that we're once English speaking, that have gone from 10% Spanish people to 80 to 90%. It's not one town, or two, it's most of them in the north east. They love it here, they don't like the south or west coast probably due to border patrol risks if you are within hundred miles of the border you can get harassed by border. That's why Trump won a lot of areas out here I was shocked anyone voted for him, and everyone here said it's because of illegals. It was funny because I could care less about this place turning to Latin America since I live in five states but the point was the people are coming, they are allowed here, and only misguided uninformed people will stay in the caravan for more than two days as border patrol is picking up thousand a day now climbing over the wall.

[NegotiateHard]

"Although English is the most commonly spoken language, there is actually no official language in the United States at the federal level. The US is one of the linguistically diverse countries in the world. Historically, approximately 500 languages have been spoken in the country with English as the widely used language. May 9, 2018.

What is the Official Language of the United States? - WorldAtlas.com" GNRPorsche - If you visit San Francisco, you will probably see a lot of signs in shops in Chinese, Los Angeles in Korean, Chicago in Polish, Brooklyn in Russian and Hebrew etc. We live in the USA not in England and there is a big difference in the ethnic composition of the population. I don't understand why you are outraged. Shop owners and business owners need these signs in other languages for business purposes.

Is the USA that much more diverse than England? I really imagined England being super diverse. Well maybe not as much as the USA.

[StRobert]

I see it on east coast half the signs in stores are now in Spanish Target Walmart Kmart. The malls. Everything now in Spanish.

"Although English is the most commonly spoken language, there is actually no official language in the United States at the federal level. The US is one of the linguistically diverse countries in the world. Historically, approximately 500 languages have been spoken in the country with English as the widely used language. May 9, 2018.

What is the Official Language of the United States? - WorldAtlas.com" GNRPorsche - If you visit San Francisco, you will probably see a lot of signs in shops in Chinese, Los Angeles in Korean, Chicago in Polish, Brooklyn in Russian and Hebrew etc. We live in the USA not in England and there is a big difference in the ethnic composition of the population. I don't understand why you are outraged. Shop owners and business owners need these signs in other languages for business purposes.

[Captain Solo]

The rusty 20-foot tall steel wall along the border at Las Playas must be buried very deep with massive concrete foundation for them to stand and not collapse.

But there were videos showing migrant families, including children, crawl through a shallow hole under the wall and enter the US.

Looks like the wall's height won't stop illegal entries. They just find weak spots and dig holes through it.

[Hargow20]

I have my doubts as well. There was story the other day that many of migrants have gotten jobs and or are applying for work was well. I am sure there is criminal element within them as well.

I don't think it has anything to do with the caravan. Those people are not hanging around long, they caught 500 in one day last week on the Mexico Texas border in one spot, entire bus loads drove them from Guatemala. They all got processed immediately. No reason any caravan person should be staying in Tijuana more than one day. Simply climb the wall and wait for border patrol to process you for a week then they drive you to Greyhound station. Three caravan teenagers kidnapped robbed yesterday in Tijuana, two are deceased, USA tax payers will pay millions in that lawsuit for making them wait in the to be processed. Better to just let everyone in who's not previously banned, immediately than pay all these lawsuits. We are looking at whole scale multi country evacuations, I see it on east coast half the signs in stores are now in Spanish Target Walmart Kmart. The malls. Everything now in Spanish.

[MongerHunger]

These posts get more comical by the day. I do wish there was an auto-ignore feature.

US taxpayers are now on the hook for murders occurring in Tijuana? I'm sure there's an attorney that will try.

Back on the east coast now? LOL.

As I think about it I think that he is under aged with his immature post, fantasized stories, made up reports, lies and such. Just wanting attention like a child. I would bet pesos that he is just that.

[Dcrist0527]

I don't think it has anything to do with the caravan. Those people are not hanging around long, they caught 500 in one day last week on the Mexico Texas border in one spot, entire bus loads drove them from Guatemala. They all got processed immediately. No reason any caravan person should be staying in Tijuana more than one day. Simply climb the wall and wait for border patrol to process you for a week then they drive you to Greyhound station. Three caravan teenagers kidnapped robbed yesterday in Tijuana, two are deceased, USA tax payers will pay millions in that lawsuit for making them wait in the to be processed. Better to just let everyone in who's not previously banned, immediately than pay all these lawsuits. We are looking at whole scale multi country evacuations, I see it on east coast half the signs in stores are now in Spanish Target Walmart Kmart. The malls. Everything now in Spanish.

These posts get more comical by the day. I do wish there was an auto-ignore feature.

US taxpayers are now on the hook for murders occurring in Tijuana? I'm sure there's an attorney that will try.

Back on the east coast now? LOL.