Crime, Safety, and the Police

[Rainman306]

Has anyone made the walk from the Ped East border crossing to Pueblo Amigo Hotel & Casino?

Is it safe in both no possible thugs or having to cross busy roads?

[Captain Solo]

What can the US do to prosecute AMLO?

Send Navy Seals to Mexico City?

https://www.nytimes.com/2024/02/22/w...ug-cartel.html

The inquiry examined accusations of potential links between drug traffickers and close confidants of the president while he governed the country.

By Alan Feuer and Natalie Kitroeff Feb. 22,2024 Updated 1:17 pm ET.

American law enforcement officials spent years looking into allegations that allies of Mexico's president, Andrés Manuel López Obrador, met with and took millions of dollars from drug cartels after he took office, according to USA Records and three people familiar with the matter.

The inquiry, which has not been previously reported, uncovered information pointing to potential links between powerful cartel operatives and Mexican advisers and officials close to the president while he governed the country.

But the United States never opened a formal investigation into Mr. López Obrador, and the officials involved ultimately shelved the inquiry. They concluded that the USA Government had little appetite to pursue allegations against the leader of one of America's top allies, said the three people familiar with the case, who were not authorized to speak publicly.

Mr. López Obrador called the allegations "completely false," responding to questions from The New York Times on Thursday. He said the news of the inquiry would not "in any way" affect Mexico's relationship with the United States, but said he expected a response from the USA Government.

"Does this diminish the trust the Mexican government has in the United States?" Mr. López Obrador said at a regular news conference, adding, "Time will tell. ".

Drug cartels have long infiltrated the Mexican state, from the lowest levels to the upper reaches of government. They pay off the police, manipulate mayors, co-opt senior officials and dominate broad swaths of the country.

But while the recent efforts by the USA Officials identified possible ties between the cartels and Mr. López Obrador's associates, they did not find any direct connections between the president himself and criminal organizations.

"There is no investigation into President López Obrador," a spokesperson for the Justice Department said. "The Justice Department has a responsibility to review any allegation. ".

Much of the information collected by USA Officials came from informants whose accounts can be difficult to corroborate and sometimes end up being incorrect. The investigators obtained the information while looking into the activities of drug cartels, and it was not clear how much of what the informants told them was independently confirmed.

For example, records show that the investigators were told by an informant that one of Mr. López Obrador's closest confidants met with Ismael Zambada García, a top leader of the Sinaloa drug cartel, before his victory in the 2018 presidential election.

A different source told them that after the president was elected, a founder of the notoriously violent Zetas cartel paid $4 million to two of Mr. López Obrador's allies in the hope of being released from prison.

Investigators obtained information from a third source suggesting that drug cartels were in possession of videos of the president's sons picking up drug money, records show.

Mr. López Obrador denied all the allegations made by the informants.

The USA Law enforcement officers also independently tracked payments from people they believed to be cartel operatives to intermediaries for Mr. López Obrador, two of the people familiar with the inquiry said.

At least one of those payments, they said, was made around the same time that Mr. López Obrador traveled to the state of Sinaloa in 2020 and met the mother of the drug lord Joaquíand Guzmáand Loera, who is better known as El Chapo and is now serving a life sentence in an American federal prison.

More than a decade ago, a separate investigation led by the Drug Enforcement Administration unearthed allegations that traffickers had donated millions to Mr. López Obrador's unsuccessful presidential campaign in 2006. This inquiry, which was detailed by three media outlets last month, was closed without charges being brought.

What you should know. The Times makes a careful decision any time it uses an anonymous source. The information the source supplies must be newsworthy and give readers genuine insight.

For the United States, pursuing criminal charges against top foreign officials is a rare and complicated undertaking. Building a legal case against Mr. López Obrador would be particularly challenging. The last time the United States filed criminal charges against a top Mexican official, it ultimately dropped them after his arrest caused a diplomatic rift with Mexico.

The Biden administration has an enormous stake in managing its relationship with Mr. López Obrador, who is seen as indispensable to containing a surge in migration that has become one of the most contentious issues in American politics. It is a major concern for voters in the lead-up to the presidential election this fall.

Mexico is also a top American trading partner and the single most important collaborator in USA Efforts to slow illicit drugs like fentanyl from crossing the southern border.

USA Law enforcement agencies have jurisdiction to investigate and bring charges against officials of other countries if they can show a connection to narcotics moving across the border into the United States.

While it is uncommon for American agents to pursue top foreign officials, it is not unprecedented: The drug trial of Juan Orlando Hernández, the former president of Honduras, began this week in Federal District Court in Manhattan.

Federal prosecutors in New York also secured a corruption conviction last year against Genaro García Luna, Mexico's former public security secretary, persuading a jury that he had taken millions of dollars in bribes from violent cartels he was meant to be pursuing.

While efforts to scrutinize Mr. López Obrador's allies are no longer active, the revelation that USA Law enforcement officials were quietly examining corruption allegations against them could itself be damaging.

Last month's media reports, including one by ProPublica, about a USA Inquiry into 2006 campaign donations — for an election he did not win — ignited a firestorm in Mexico.

Mr. López Obrador publicly denounced the stories, implying they were aimed at influencing the country's presidential election in June, in which his protégé, the former Mexico City mayor Claudia Sheinbaum, is leading the race to replace him. He suggested the reports could complicate talks on migration and fentanyl with the USA Government, and said he considered not receiving President Biden's homeland security adviser for a planned meeting in the Mexican capital.

"How are we going to be sitting at the table talking about the fight against drugs if they, or one of their institutions, is leaking information and harming me?" Mr. López Obrador said at a regular news conference days after the stories published.

After President Biden called Mr. López Obrador, calming tensions, the Mexican foreign minister said that the USA Homeland security adviser told Mexico "that this is a closed issue for them. ".

The Biden administration has handled Mr. López Obrador with great care, avoiding public criticism in favor of repeatedly dispatching top officials to Mexico City to meet with him and press for sustained migration enforcement in private.

The decision to let the recent inquiry go dormant, the people familiar with it said, was caused in large part by the breakdown of a separate, highly contentious corruption case. In the closing months of the Trump administration in 2020, USA Officials brought charges against Gen. Salvador Cienfuegos Zepeda, who served as Mexico's defense secretary from 2012 to 2018.

American officials also investigated Gen. Salvador Cienfuegos Zepeda, who served as Mexico's defense secretary from 2012 to 2018. Credit. Rebecca Blackwell / Associated Press.

In a federal indictment, unsealed in New York after a multiyear investigation named "Operation Padrino," prosecutors accused General Cienfuegos of using the powers of his office to help a violent criminal group called the H-2 cartel conduct its drug trafficking operations.

His arrest at the LOS Angeles airport provoked a furor within the Mexican government, particularly among the leaders of the country's armed forces, which have assumed greater responsibilities and power under Mr. López Obrador.

The president said the charges were "fabricated" and his administration released more than 700 pages of communications intercepted by USA Agents that purported to show criminal activity but were cast as inconclusive.

The Drug Enforcement Administration, which already had a checkered history as protagonists in a drug war seen as bloody and futile, suffered a tremendous blow to its relationship with the Mexican government.

Just weeks after the arrest took place, the USA Justice Department, under heavy pressure from Mr. López Obrador, reversed itself and dismissed the indictment, sending General Cienfuegos back to Mexico.

The episode not only damaged longtime security arrangements between the two countries, but also left a deep impression on law enforcement officers north of the border, many of whom saw the failed case as a cautionary tale about undertaking similar efforts against other high-ranking Mexican officials.

Emiliano Rodríguez Mega contributed reporting.

Alan Feuer covers extremism and political violence for The Times, focusing on the criminal cases involving the Jan. 6 attack on the Capitol and against former President Donald J. Trump. More about Alan Feuer.

Natalie Kitroeff is The Times's bureau chief for Mexico, Central America and the Caribbean. More about Natalie Kitroeff.

[Sol12]

What makes you think the next President will be a women?

Because the two leading candidates in the election later this year are females, and with the large lead they have it's very unlikely not to be a female.

[Scbb1]

This has been discussed before and the other day an article talking about how run down the Zona Norte is and the people and businesses that are frustrated with the lack of money being spent to upgrade it. It also talks of the long wanted bridge connecting Plaza Americas to this area.

Like I said before, Mexicos next president will be a woman so the chances of the Zona getting cleaned up are very high in my opinion.

https://zetatijuana.com/2024/02/indi...ro-de-tijuana/

What makes you think the next President will be a women?

[Phordphan]

Many Mexican's have told me that the Zona is one of the few things that brings in tourist dollars to Tijuana. I hear guys talk all the time visiting HK. When I am in Tijuana I do not see many American's out side o the Zona. All the cartel violence has scared off a lot of tourists.

Many Mexicans who work in the Zona Norte may have told you that. Regular tourism (including the massive number of pochos who patronize the restaurants and clubs), medical tourism, and manufacturing are major sources of foreign exchange, far bigger than the hooker bars. The Zona Norte bars are big fish in a very small pond. You need to get out more.

[Captain Solo]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mtLiQnXC7sQ

If small poor El Salvador can control its gangs and drastically reduce crimes, why T F can Mexico not control its cartels?

Everyone knows for decades most Mexican government officials, including the top federal officials, are traditionally on cartels' payrolls. They lie to, beat up its own citizens, give good lip services, songs and dances to Washington, but are deep in the cartels' pockets.

[Hargow20]

The number of registered working girls doubled in 2023. This article is hard to believe. Personally I have not seen a uptick. In fact I have seen a decrease. This one security guard friend says that as well.

I keep hoping we see a increase in the number of SG's / SW's. The former tourist minister was saying Tijuana should actually promote prostitution. I think HK is doing a good job. What we need is better looking girls that are reasonably priced in the Zona.

https://www.newsnationnow.com/health...ed-in-4-years/

[Artisttyp]

There is no guarantee that the card will any difference. But it does let cop know that he can be reported and may get into trouble.

I used to carry one I received at an MLB party. Even got it laminated. The few times I was frisked and police saw the card they mentioned to me that the person on the card doesn't work there anymore. Personally I feel my tarjeta Soriana and my Farmacia Gusher 35% discount card with photo ID were more impressive to them.

[BrotherMouzone]

Many Mexican's have told me that the Zona is one of the few things that brings in tourist dollars to Tijuana. I hear guys talk all the time visiting HK. When I am in Tijuana I do not see many American's out side o the Zona. All the cartel violence has scared off a lot of tourists.

Medical tourism alone dwarfs any kind of $$$ Zona Norte brings in. There's WAY more to Tijuana (and Baja California as a whole) than just Zona Norte, we can't just sit here and look at an entire region only through our perspective as mongers, LOL. I see Americans walking up and down and in the bars on Revolucion all the time. I see them sometimes in the various restaurants I like to frequent outside Tijuana. And the dental office I go to every once in a while in Zona Rio (Advanced Smiles) there are always a few Americans when I go to visit.

Agree that the cartel violence (or at least the "image" Tijuana has of persistent, ongoing violence and corruption) has scared off many but the tourist dollars are definitely still there, IMO.

[Hargow20]

Most of the people I see crossing the border are commuting to work and back. There is also a lot of Hispanic's go to visit families. I see far more guys going to visit the Zona.

$57 K per week? That's nothing. Too many guys are afraid of leaving the Zona Norte. Tijuana is not a bunch of dirt roads where the locals are riding burros.

Go east to Otay and look at the dozens of fabricas. They bring in waaaaaaayyy more that a few thousand dollars a week. Let's not forget general tourism. Loads of tourists visit Tijuana to spend money in places other than the Zona Norte. Let's not forget all of the shipping infrastructure. Every day hundreds of semis go through the border carrying all kinds of produce and merchandise.

If the ZN disappeared tomorrow, nobody but a relative handful of people would notice.

[Sol12]

It's an eye sore. Let's be honest. It's like Times Square used to be before Rudy cleaned it up and made it Disney. If a real president with qualifications ever came in, he would shut the whole place down and make it look like the nice part of revolution street.

This has been discussed before and the other day an article talking about how run down the Zona Norte is and the people and businesses that are frustrated with the lack of money being spent to upgrade it. It also talks of the long wanted bridge connecting Plaza Americas to this area.

Like I said before, Mexicos next president will be a woman so the chances of the Zona getting cleaned up are very high in my opinion.

https://zetatijuana.com/2024/02/indi...ro-de-tijuana/

[Hargow20]

There is no guarantee that the card will any difference. But it does let cop know that he can be reported and may get into trouble.

You make valid points. To be fair, I never said the cards themselves were / are an urban legend. My point was that their alleged effects have become something of myth and legend. I was a longtime member of that "other" board and I don't recall any credible reports of a card causing a halt to a search or noticeably better treatment. But I have an open mind, and am certainly willing to be proven wrong. If the stop is completely illegitimate I suppose it could cause them to ease up on the mordida requests. Of course, if it's completely illegitimate, if you stand your ground the cops are likely to go away empty-handed. If it's legit. Open container, DUI, walking around drunk / high, possessing drugs, etc. , the card won't do much.

[Hargow20]

Many Mexican's have told me that the Zona is one of the few things that brings in tourist dollars to Tijuana. I hear guys talk all the time visiting HK. When I am in Tijuana I do not see many American's out side o the Zona. All the cartel violence has scared off a lot of tourists.

$57 K per week? That's nothing. Too many guys are afraid of leaving the Zona Norte. Tijuana is not a bunch of dirt roads where the locals are riding burros.

Go east to Otay and look at the dozens of fabricas. They bring in waaaaaaayyy more that a few thousand dollars a week. Let's not forget general tourism. Loads of tourists visit Tijuana to spend money in places other than the Zona Norte. Let's not forget all of the shipping infrastructure. Every day hundreds of semis go through the border carrying all kinds of produce and merchandise.

If the ZN disappeared tomorrow, nobody but a relative handful of people would notice.

[Hargow20]

The Zona is no worse tn terms of looks other areas run down parts of Tijuana. The drug dealers & sporadic crime is the main issue in the Zona these days. The other factor to remember that prostitution is part of Mexico's culture. Mexican men see hookers quite often.

It's an eye sore. Let's be honest. It's like Times Square used to be before Rudy cleaned it up and made it Disney. If a real president with qualifications ever came in, he would shut the whole place down and make it look like the nice part of revolution street.

[TjBrazil]

The Zona is Tijuana's biggest sources of foreign revenue. !! So it is very unlikely they will outlaw it.

It's an eye sore. Let's be honest. It's like Times Square used to be before Rudy cleaned it up and made it Disney. If a real president with qualifications ever came in, he would shut the whole place down and make it look like the nice part of revolution street.