Crime, Safety, and the Police

[Simmer]

The CBP site is somewhat clear that a small, personal supply is allowed, assuming it is not a controlled drug, which V is not. It's important to understand what controlled means, which is a higher bar than prescription. The other concern: CBP tolerating that small supply does not help with other laws about possessing prescription meds in the US without a US script.

Watching some TV documentary (Border Patrol US?) they showed a container full of mailed medications from India. IIRC they said a 90 day supply is allowed so if that's true, how do you count Viagra or Cialis given they are "on demand" drugs? (I know 5mg Cialis can be taken daily but what about the 20mg doses?) I suppose one could argue that V could be taken daily and thus 90 tabs ought to be ok... Famous last words.

[Dcrist0527]

Two thoughts and 1 question.

Sneaking it across the border is one issue. Frankly, I've never declared the few pills I have brought across. This next trip, I do plan to declare it. The CBP site is somewhat clear that a small, personal supply is allowed, assuming it is not a controlled drug, which V is not. It's important to understand what controlled means, which is a higher bar than prescription. The other concern: CBP tolerating that small supply does not help with other laws about possessing prescription meds in the US without a US script.

Buying it in Mexico, I suppose could be a reason for troubles within Mexico. As a practice, I put them in my pocket immediately, and then I immediately get back to the hotel and keep them there. I won't walk around with a pill in my pocket afterwards.

The question. My understanding, obtaining an actual prescription is a mere formality in Mx. I've never bothered. But has anyone actually obtained the prescription for V in Mx?

When I visit the Pharmacy I only buy one Viagra and take it immediately afterwards. Although last night I bought a pill and had forgotten to take. I gave it Ashley when we were don. Personally it is simply not worth the risk of trying to sneak it across the border.

[ScatManDoo]

When I visit the Pharmacy I only buy one Viagra and take it immediately afterwards. Although last night I bought a pill and had forgotten to take. I gave it Ashley when we were don. Personally it is simply not worth the risk of trying to sneak it across the border.

I used to hide my generic Viagra when returning to the United States.

But for several years now I always declare the Figral that I am bringing back to Orange County when I cross the border.

It's no problem.

[Hargow20]

When I visit the Pharmacy I only buy one Viagra and take it immediately afterwards. Although last night I bought a pill and had forgotten to take. I gave it Ashley when we were don. Personally it is simply not worth the risk of trying to sneak it across the border.

Nothing new in Tijuana. Tourist being watched by the parking guy and snitched off to the policia for a cut of the shakedown. Had the same experience one weekend about a year ago. Parking guy oddly took forever to open the gate at Pepe's and when I went down the street, the policia flashed their red lights. He must have been holding me up so the policia could nab me. Luckily I do not drink and drive and speak passable Spanish so the cops let me go, but my guess is the parking attendants (apparently Pharmacists too) watch for guys they think have been drinking or whatever, then call the policia on the cell and tip them that a mark is headed their way. Worth reading these horror stories to know what to expect and do in this scene now.

[Travv]

Nothing new in Tijuana. Tourist being watched by the parking guy and snitched off to the policia for a cut of the shakedown. Had the same experience one weekend about a year ago. Parking guy oddly took forever to open the gate at Pepe's and when I went down the street, the policia flashed their red lights. He must have been holding me up so the policia could nab me. Luckily I do not drink and drive and speak passable Spanish so the cops let me go, but my guess is the parking attendants (apparently Pharmacists too) watch for guys they think have been drinking or whatever, then call the policia on the cell and tip them that a mark is headed their way. Worth reading these horror stories to know what to expect and do in this scene now.

You must have had to really dig for this 2003 article 14 years ago next month. LOL.

[Ninguno Especial]

Interesting story. Dude targeted by Tijuana policia for shakedown?

"It started out innocently enough. He wanted to get bigger. He lived near the Mexican border so he crossed over and brought back some steroids for his personal use. No harm, no foul.

You must have had to really dig for this 2003 article 14 years ago next month. LOL.

[Travv]

Interesting story. Dude targeted by Tijuana policia for shakedown?

"It started out innocently enough. He wanted to get bigger. He lived near the Mexican border so he crossed over and brought back some steroids for his personal use. No harm, no foul. That was his first trip, the first of many. They were all uneventful, until this last one. Now he's sitting in a Tijuana jail, contemplating best and worst case scenarios. If he's lucky, he'll spend two years in a Mexican prison and pay a hefty fine. If he's not so lucky. Well, he doesn't even want to think about that. Testosterone: Before you found yourself in this situation, how often did you cross over to buy steroids?

Anonymous: Probably once a month. I've crossed over at least a dozen times before. I'd drive through and park at the San Ysidro border, then pick stuff up for myself or my friends. I didn't do it to make money – though that was a bonus. I did it because I didn't think everyone should have to pay such high prices. People would let me know what they needed and I'd pick it up. I was just doing people favors at first and making enough profit to buy my own stuff. But in the eyes of the law, I was a drug dealer. T-mag: Ever run into trouble before?

Anon: I'd never had a problem. I'd hear stories about people getting caught or harassed and say, "That's bullshit, they just don't do that. " I'd gotten away with paying off the cops with twenty or fifty dollars, but this time they assumed I had money because of the amount of steroids I had on me. I had thirty-one bottles so they thought I was a dealer. But on the Mexican side you can just be walking down the street. If they feel like stopping you, they can do anything they want. They have people that watch the pharmacies and people that follow you. I was stupid. I didn't even think about the Mexican side. I was worried about US customs.

I always use the same parking garage. The pharmacists actually recommended I park there. This time the attendant who worked there looked at me and waved so I waved back. He never did that before. I had a bad feeling, a feeling I shouldn't have gone this time. Before I left I kept reading about all these people getting busted and it just sent chills up my spine. . . So we walked back to the truck, unlocked the door, and noticed two guys walking up to us. It was the tourist police. They told us to put our hands on the hood of the truck. They searched our pockets and found one Viagra tab on my friend. "You're in a lot of trouble," they told him, "You need a prescription for this. " I told them that we didn't need a prescription for that and they just said, "Oh yes you do!

https://www.t-nation.com/pharma/popp...a-tijuana-jail

Moral of this story: If the Tijuana policia think you have lots of money, prepare to be busted for Viagra or whatever and go on a tour of ATM machines with your ATM card with a Policia escort to help you carry your money.

[Ninguno Especial]

There was a bit of discussion regarding the street girls (SG's) being managed. Every few years some article comes out about this town being where generations of pimps reside, some in mansions (a few photos at the link). Also at least one Tijuana monger has been to the town and swears it's all true.

Not that they recruit them there, which is done in other parts of Puebla and other states, but many of the old money families are from Tenancingo it appears. So don't think all of the SGs go here to see their kids or padrotes. These days there are a lot of young upstart pimps who live in other areas that the girls go see on their "vacations" to be with family. That or just move to wherever the BF or boss says the needs to go next. I think when business is slow in Tijuana the padrote sends them to the DF or other state.

Amazing the site name is SG. NEWS. YAHOO LOL Can't make this stuff up.

https://sg.news.yahoo.com/tenancingo...165823191.html

[LukeSkywalker]

We don't want hordes of horny tourists to abandon Cancun and Playa Del Carmen, and head to Tijuana to screw our hot chicas, swim in the the perfumed Tijuana river, and dunk in the brown water of La Playas and Imperial Beach.

https://nypost.com/2018/04/11/street...s-in-36-hours/

[LukeSkywalker]

http://www.latimes.com/business/la-f...412-story.html

Unlike Backpage, the content of this site is 100% braggarts' fiction.

[LukeSkywalker]

They would tell you to go to Sindicatura office at city hall to sign written complaint.

Beetching alone won't help.

Seems like all of these guidelines would be easy to follow except for carrying medicine. Generic viagra is very tempting and completely legal in Mexico.

Also, has anyone tried calling the Sindicatura and complaining? I heard you can even call 911 in Mexico and they'll hook you up with a translator over the phone. I think I read some reports about people reporting harassment by the police on this board.

[Baxter Slade]

Also, has anyone tried calling the Sindicatura and complaining? I heard you can even call 911 in Mexico and they'll hook you up with a translator over the phone. I think I read some reports about people reporting harassment by the police on this board.

While it was at least a couple years ago. I was robbed by the police. At the time 066 was the equivalant of 911 in Tijuana. I called and the person who answered spoke english. They immediatly sent a supervisor to the scene. Of course you will need to be able to ID the culprit. In this case I had the car # of the thieves. They were called back to the location where they were ordered to give me back my money and apologize with hugs. The hugs a bit strange but hey its Mexico.

Then in an attempt to let headquarters know everything was ok they wanted me to call in and say there was no problem. However we never did find a phone that worked.

[Flyer47]

When it comes to gringos. There are basically no "legit" searches. 99% of the time the stops and searches are extortion attempts. Best you can do is not give the cops any probable cause. Don't wander around aimlessly, stay in the bars while intoxicated, don't carry any medicine on you, and try to blend in with the local population. And one other thing. Tijuana cops are much more of a threat to you than rateros and street riff raff. Avoid any interactions with the cops.

Seems like all of these guidelines would be easy to follow except for carrying medicine. Generic viagra is very tempting and completely legal in Mexico.

Also, has anyone tried calling the Sindicatura and complaining? I heard you can even call 911 in Mexico and they'll hook you up with a translator over the phone. I think I read some reports about people reporting harassment by the police on this board.

[LukeSkywalker]

This is not an April's Fools joke. It's serious. Feds seized BACKPAGE yesterday.

Looks like Feds wants the pervs to stay home and jack off to porn. Hehe.

http://www.latimes.com/nation/la-na-...406-story.html

Federal authorities take down Backpage.com, accused of being a haven for online prostitution.

By Joseph Tanfani.

APR 07,2018.

6:50 PM Washington.

Federal authorities take down Backpage.com, accused of being a haven for online prostitution.

Picture: From left, Backpage.com Chief Executive Carl Ferrer, former owner James Larkin, Chief Operating Officer Andrew Padilla, and former owner Michael Lacey are sworn in before a 2017 congressional hearing. (Cliff Owen / Associated Press).

In the climax of a fight that pitted foes of sex trafficking against advocates of free internet speech, the Justice Department on Friday seized the Backpage.com website and raided the home of its cofounder.

The site, long a haven for sex ads, began shutting down Friday morning, as FBI agents began taking down a network of web pages all over the world. A notice on the site said it had been seized as part of an enforcement action by the FBI, the IRS and the USA Postal Inspection Service.

Agents raided the Sedona, Ariz, home of Michael Lacey, the site's cofounder, according to local media reports, but federal authorities would not comment on criminal charges.

Backpage.com has long been under fire from state attorneys general, organizations that fight child sex trafficking and victims of the prostitution business who have tried to sue the company for damages. California prosecutors filed state criminal charges against Backpage last year, but that case and others foundered because of protections in the federal Communications Decency Act, written to protect free speech on the internet.

Congress moved to strip away that shield late last month with a measure to carve out an exception in the communications law after a high-volume political battle. When signed into law by President Trump, the measure will allow states to proceed against websites that knowingly assist or support sex trafficking.

Silicon Valley trade groups and free-speech advocates such as the ACLU fought the new measure, warning that it would create havoc by forcing companies to try to get a handle on wild online speech.

But those arguments were overwhelmed by stories from teenagers about being sold for sex on Backpage. A letter from attorneys general around the country said they had evidence of teenagers being trafficked on the site.

Advocates for victims of trafficking said the takedown of Backpage was long overdue — especially since the Communications Decency Act never restrained federal prosecutions, only state ones.

"You heard the stories over and over and over again from kids who were sold there," said Carol Smolenski, executive director of ECPAT USA, an anti-trafficking group. "It's ridiculous that kids could be sold on the internet openly. It was outrageous. ".

A report last year by the Senate Homeland Security Committee found that the website employed software to automatically strip language in ads that pointed to [CodeWord902] girls, including "[CodeWord901]," "little girl" and "amber alert. " The ads were then published without those stripped words, the report found.

The report also found that Lacey and other owners, although they reportedly sold Backpage.com to a foreign company, retained significant control through a web of shell companies.

[Ctytek]

When it comes to gringos. There are basically no "legit" searches. 99% of the time the stops and searches are extortion attempts. Best you can do is not give the cops any probable cause. Don't wander around aimlessly, stay in the bars while intoxicated, don't carry any medicine on you, and try to blend in with the local population. And one other thing. Tijuana cops are much more of a threat to you than rateros and street riff raff. Avoid any interactions with the cops.

Question for the group. So far, I guess I've been lucky. I have not had a single interaction with the police. But these stories of gringos stopped and shake downs really makes me believe it's a matter of time. My question. How many of these stories are "legit" searches and how many are shakedowns?

I've read a lot of angst about the rateros and drug pushers. But we also don't like the police presence. So my thought is, if I get stopped and searched "legitimately", I can deal with that. But what percent is legit and what percent of these stops are simply bribes? I'm not sure anyone can answer that. But I'm just thinking we need to accept the reality of police presence. That in itself is not a bad thing but we need to highlight shakedowns and bribes, not just police presence.