Crime, Safety, and the Police

[BigDub2000]

Always hold your money in your hand when they search you. The police like come up with a bogus excuse that they need to search your wallet. Once you demand they will relent. Last year some cops searched my wallet and stole $40.

My buddy got searched first and I remembered this advice from.

Other posters so that's exactly what I did. When he saw me holding my money.

In my hand he did a half ass job searching me and let me get back into the car.

My buddy didn't even realize some of the money was gone until we got.

Back to the hotel. That sneaky cop took some ad he was removing the money.

From my buddy's pocket.

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[Baxter Slade]

Was at Hong Kong this Saturday and grab a Uber at 3 AM to get back to my hotel. About five minutes into the ride we get pulled over by a cop and the he searches me and my buddy for "drugs" and the sneaky SOB took 120 dollars From my buddies pocket as he was searching. I've heard cops pulling over people driving their own cars and stopping people on the streets for a shake down but never heard of a case where he pulls over a Uber ride. I suspect maybe the cop and the Uber driver are in together in this scam. I've always felt somewhat safe taking Uber around Tijuana especially late at night but this really sucks because I feel this cop will target other late Uber riders and possibly other cops will catch on as well.

Anything is posible heard of them working with cabbies. I'm curious if they showed any interest in the driver? Or only the passengers. During any kind of interaction with TJs monkees always try to get a vehicle number. Even if the situation is over walk back to there car and ask a stupid question to try to get there unit #.

[Hargow20]

Always hold your money in your hand when they search you. The police like come up with a bogus excuse that they need to search your wallet. Once you demand they will relent. Last year some cops searched my wallet and stole $40.

Was at Hong Kong this Saturday and grab a Uber at 3 AM to get back to my hotel. About five minutes into the ride we get pulled over by a cop and the he searches me and my buddy for "drugs" and the sneaky SOB took 120 dollars From my buddies pocket as he was searching. I've heard cops pulling over people driving their own cars and stopping people on the streets for a shake down but never heard of a case where he pulls over a Uber ride. I suspect maybe the cop and the Uber driver are in together in this scam. I've always felt somewhat safe taking Uber around Tijuana especially late at night but this really sucks because I feel this cop will target other late Uber riders and possibly other cops will catch on as well.

[BigDub2000]

Was at Hong Kong this Saturday and grab a Uber at 3 AM to get back to my hotel. About five minutes into the ride we get pulled over by a cop and the he searches me and my buddy for "drugs" and the sneaky SOB took 120 dollars From my buddies pocket as he was searching. I've heard cops pulling over people driving their own cars and stopping people on the streets for a shake down but never heard of a case where he pulls over a Uber ride. I suspect maybe the cop and the Uber driver are in together in this scam. I've always felt somewhat safe taking Uber around Tijuana especially late at night but this really sucks because I feel this cop will target other late Uber riders and possibly other cops will catch on as well.

[WombatEd2]

There is a separate forum for "Food in Tijuana". The idea is that those who want to read and write about food can do it somewhere where I don't have to wade through it to get the info I want about "Crime, Safety, and the Police".

Off-topic posting is simply inconsiderate.

And for those of you engaging in flame war "food fights", there is NO appropriate forum here for that. Maybe there's a good place for it over on NotSoBrightBart.com.

[JaimeBandito]

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[ScatManDoo]

To continue highlighting the holes in your argument,.,

I think the only holes here are the ones apparently already in your head.

[ScatManDoo]

But unless Jim clears it up, we will never know exactly who he is referring to except for Scatmandoo, whom Jim specifically called out for his ridiculous claim that Tijuana is a food mecca because of its proximity to Southern California. Scatmandoo doesn't have a real opinion regarding the food scene in Tijuana. He is just posting here for the purpose of writing against anything and everything I post.

To continue highlighting the holes in your argument.

In my post, I was writing about the tourist market, not the grocery market.

[ClamSlammer]

Tijuana enjoys a next-door proximity to San Diego County, which has over 3 million residents. There's over 20 million people in the US's Southern California. It allows Tijuana, which has Mexico's best access to that market, exceptionally vibrant food areas in many parts of the city.

I believe Jim0129 was referring to your posts, and he's 100% correct. Tijuana most definitely IS a gastro destination As in. It attracts thousands of visitors from both US / California and other parts Mexico who travel there to sample its local cuisine. This is a well known fact in the actual "foodie" circles. And there are many many magazine articles and TV shows that cover Tijuana food scene. Majority of Tijuana visitors don't come for $15 street hookers.

You just don't know any better, because you spend all your time in the Zona, eating at Cascadas. To compare Tijuana with Milwaukee is so clueless, I don't think it's worth any more time debating this with you.

You destroyed what little credibility you had by your post above. I always state the full truth because I have full confidence in my argument. You state selective truths, because your argument is porous and you know it. You claim that Jim is referring to my posts only. That is a selective truth. In my opinion he is referring to all of us who are discussing food here, including you and I. But unless Jim clears it up, we will never know exactly who he is referring to except for Scatmandoo, whom Jim specifically called out for his ridiculous claim that Tijuana is a food mecca because of its proximity to Southern California. Scatmandoo doesn't have a real opinion regarding the food scene in Tijuana. He is just posting here for the purpose of writing against anything and everything I post.

To continue highlighting the holes in your argument, Tijuana is most definitely not known as a foodie destination in Mexico. You ask a million people who arrive on flights at TIJ airport the main reason they are visiting Tijuana and most of them will say visiting family or business. Not a single person will say because of the food. So I Googled "food destinations in Mexico" and here is the list of the results:

https://theculturetrip.com/north-ame...ies-in-mexico/

https://www.tripsavvy.com/mexicos-be...ations-1588814

https://www.thekitchn.com/summer-vac...edition-246118

http://www.veryhungrynomads.com/best...5-food-cities/

https://www.tripstodiscover.com/mexi...s-for-foodies/

https://explorepartsunknown.com/mexi...ate-in-mexico/

https://www.libertytravel.com/travel...need-visit-now

Out of these Mexican foodie articles, guess how many times they mention the word "Tijuana?" None! So I actually have provided third party opinions that Tijuana is not a foodie destination. What have you provided? Nothing. Again, I'm not saying that Tijuana has no good food options. I'm saying that there are some options, commensurate with population, but not nearly enough for it to be known as a foodie destination.

And to add to your lies and misconceptions, I don't spend all my time in the zona eating at Cascadas. In fact, I am a full-time resident of Tijuana and barely go to the zona at all. On average maybe twice a month. I'd be willing to bet I've eaten at 10 x more Tijuana restaurants than you have. And another lie of yours to point out is that I never directly compared Tijuana to Milwaukee. The only thing I did was compare Milwaukee's distance to Chicago with Tijuana's distance to Valle de Guadalupe. You see, when you have to make up easily verifiable lies, you have lost your argument.

That being said, I agree with Jim. Posts about food is stupid in the crime section. This will be my last post on the subject in this subforum. If you wish to continue to have your arguments and lies destroyed by fact, kindly direct your attention to the food subforum.

[Hargow20]

Personally I have see very little if any ratero's looking to mug people in the Zona recently. ? The drug dealers are stillactive on Constituciion. The drug dealers don't bother me. But I wish the police would crack down on them and drive them away. I still keep my guard up. I always look to see who is behind me. If I see someone suspicious I will stop face them and let them pass by.

When ISG members click on this thread, they expect to find news and info on crime, safety and the police.

Some are puzzled by keyboard warriors that are arguing about not only who is right and wrong, but on a topic of foodie destinations, no less. St# Fu (Ret at #.

That's why its important to believe less than 10% of what you read and less of what you see.

As of the last few months, I have noticed less gringo shakedowns, but more areas in the zona de tolerencia where you can find drug dealers and their crews.

I still see what looks like groups of muggers scanning for easy marks.

[Travv]

The alley between Pepe's parking and the Tropical Club appears to be a popular spot for Rateros. I give the mouth of the alley lots of space. When it was raining, one ratty looking dude was looking down the street toward's Pepe's, which seemed strange to me (why stand there in the rain), so I walked wide into the street to avoid the mouth of the alley. There was another guy with his back to the wall facing the guy (lookout?) looking toward's Pepe's. When I walked by in the street, one of them peeled off and started following me, but I just quickly crossed the street towards the HK Club, and the ratero gave up. This Tuesday afternoon, I noticed a couple of dudes testing a stun gun in the Tropical Club alley. Guys beware having a stun gun jammed into your neck if you walk too close at night to the alley to get to Pepe's. Walk in the street where the rateros have to chase you to get close and you have time to notice them targeting you.

When ISG members click on this thread, they expect to find news and info on crime, safety and the police.

Some are puzzled by keyboard warriors that are arguing about not only who is right and wrong, but on a topic of foodie destinations, no less. St# Fu (Ret at #.

That's why its important to believe less than 10% of what you read and less of what you see.

As of the last few months, I have noticed less gringo shakedowns, but more areas in the zona de tolerencia where you can find drug dealers and their crews.

I still see what looks like groups of muggers scanning for easy marks.

[Bill]

When ISG members click on this thread, they expect to find news and info on crime, safety and the police.

Some are puzzled by keyboard warriors that are arguing about not only who is right and wrong, but on a topic of foodie destinations, no less. St# Fu (Ret at #.

That's why its important to believe less than 10% of what you read and less of what you see.

As of the last few months, I have noticed less gringo shakedowns, but more areas in the zona de tolerencia where you can find drug dealers and their crews.

I still see what looks like groups of muggers scanning for easy marks.

[Travv]

A Tennessee man was jailed on felony charges after appearing to dip his testicles into a container of salsa that a customer had ordered online.

The delivery driver allegedly recorded it and posted a video online, saying "This is what you get when you give an 89 cents tip for an almost 30-minute drive."

https://www.wkrn.com/news/tennessee-...lsa/1815551455

With the kind of "generous" tippers I've seen in the HK Club, can you imagine what the Tijuana Meseros have been putting in your food and drink? I always tip the meseros after they bring me a drink or food to prevent the testicle or whatever flavored drinks, but last week I mentioned to 4 newbies sitting together in the HK club around 10:30 am, "Seems strange, your waiter looks unhappy to me. Maybe you haven't been tipping him?" "Yeah, he looks unhappy. Maybe I should tip him something. " They all ordered coffee from Azul. Wonder what was in it? A few weeks earlier, another newbie was ordering things and I noticed the waiter ignored him and walked off. Same scenario.

I've been reading all the posts about food in Tijuana, they go from dumb, ridiculous to down right stupid by people who only eat at the taco stand right next to the working girl house, or even worse, they run to the nearest Mcdonalds because either they don't have money for anything better or are too afraid of the "bad water".

Some of you even mentioned that the good food in Tijuana comes from San Diego, that because we're so close to a civilized city we are blessed to get our produce, meats and seafood from San Diego, Oh Pleeaasssee!

Here is Anothony Bourdain telling everyone to dich San Diego and go to Tijuana if you want a good meal.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NlwETvApw20

That's all you fools.

[Ctytek]

I believe Jim0129 was referring to your posts, and he's 100% correct. Tijuana most definitely IS a gastro destination As in. It attracts thousands of visitors from both US / California and other parts Mexico who travel there to sample its local cuisine. This is a well known fact in the actual "foodie" circles. And there are many many magazine articles and TV shows that cover Tijuana food scene. Majority of Tijuana visitors don't come for $15 street hookers.

You just don't know any better, because you spend all your time in the Zona, eating at Cascadas. To compare Tijuana with Milwaukee is so clueless, I don't think it's worth any more time debating this with you.

To anyone else. If you're still in doubt, I encourage you to make a stop at HUMO at Telefonica Gastro park. Order their pulled pork sandwich and a glass of craft beet. I challenge you to tell me this is not the most delicious meal under $7 bucks you will have, possibly anywhere in the world. And I know, because I have travelled and to just about every major city in the world. If you still have room after HUMO. Stop by at Far Niente Cafe next door, and get a piece of their chocolate cake with an espresso. That's some good stuff, that's worth visiting Tijuana for that alone.

I agree that most of these posts about food in Tijuana are stupid. Tijuana is most definitely not a foodie destination. To claim so betrays one's profound inexperience and cluelessness in regards to gastronomy. Sure, as with any mid sized city, there are good food options. But the handful of good options does not make it an international foodie destination. To claim so is just pure ignorance. Foodie destinations offer abundant options for whatever special type of food. For example, Chinese-San Francisco, Cuban-Miami, Cajun / Creole-New Orleans, Korean-LOS Angeles, BBQ-Memphis, Italian- Little Italy NYC, Steak-Kansas City, Deep Dish Pizza-Chicago. To aid in their porous argument, some may try to include Ensenada / Valle de Guadalupe as part of Tijuana. It's not. If you have to mention VdG in a foodie argument to support Tijuana, you've lost right there. Valle de Guadalupe may be considered an up-and-coming foodie / wine destination, but including Tijuana as part of VdG is ridiculous. It's 2 hours away. That's like saying Milwaukee is a deep dish pizza destination because Chicago is only two hours away.

[ClamSlammer]

I've been reading all the posts about food in Tijuana, they go from dumb, ridiculous to down right stupid by people who only eat at the taco stand right next to the working girl house, or even worse, they run to the nearest Mcdonalds because either they don't have money for anything better or are too afraid of the "bad water".

Some of you even mentioned that the good food in Tijuana comes from San Diego, that because we're so close to a civilized city we are blessed to get our produce, meats and seafood from San Diego, Oh Pleeaasssee!

I agree that most of these posts about food in Tijuana are stupid. Tijuana is most definitely not a foodie destination. To claim so betrays one's profound inexperience and cluelessness in regards to gastronomy. Sure, as with any mid sized city, there are good food options. But the handful of good options does not make it an international foodie destination. To claim so is just pure ignorance. Foodie destinations offer abundant options for whatever special type of food. For example, Chinese-San Francisco, Cuban-Miami, Cajun / Creole-New Orleans, Korean-LOS Angeles, BBQ-Memphis, Italian- Little Italy NYC, Steak-Kansas City, Deep Dish Pizza-Chicago. To aid in their porous argument, some may try to include Ensenada / Valle de Guadalupe as part of Tijuana. It's not. If you have to mention VdG in a foodie argument to support Tijuana, you've lost right there. Valle de Guadalupe may be considered an up-and-coming foodie / wine destination, but including Tijuana as part of VdG is ridiculous. It's 2 hours away. That's like saying Milwaukee is a deep dish pizza destination because Chicago is only two hours away.