Crime, Safety, and the Police

[KBToys]

To put into context, the victims were reportedly involved in a scam, likely with the wrong people.

A real case of F around and find out. RIP to the people and hope their families are ok. Always try to do good in the world as you never know who you're messing with. Mess with the wrong peoples time or money and it could come with severe consequences.

[Thunder52]

https://www.forbes.com/sites/katheri...in-mexico/amp/

Officials Find 45 Bags Of Human Remains In Mexico


While looking for seven young people who went missing in May, authorities in Jalisco, Mexico, discovered 45 bags of human remainsand are still searching for moreamid an ongoing crisis that has resulted in 80,000 missing people since 2006.

The remains of both men and women were found in a ravine outside of the city of Guadalajara in western Mexico, according to a Wednesday announcement from the Jalisco state attorneys office.

To put into context, the victims were reportedly involved in a scam, likely with the wrong people.

[Nothing24]

https://www.forbes.com/sites/katheri...in-mexico/amp/

Officials Find 45 Bags Of Human Remains In Mexico


While looking for seven young people who went missing in May, authorities in Jalisco, Mexico, discovered 45 bags of human remains—and are still searching for more—amid an ongoing crisis that has resulted in 80,000 missing people since 2006.

The remains of both men and women were found in a ravine outside of the city of Guadalajara in western Mexico, according to a Wednesday announcement from the Jalisco state attorney’s office.

[Artisttyp]

https://fox5sandiego.com/news/border...rough-tijuana/

[Hargow20]

It is probably best to avoid Rosarito Ensenada until either things settle down or more is known. I know a few people go down often and or live there.

10 dead, too much violence for my taste. Regular mass shootings in the US and now in Mexico. This shooting was in San Vicente about 60-70 miles south of Ensenada. I was in Ensenada this month a lot of people in the marina and tourist zona and it looked very safe.

[WombatEd2]

In Singapore, using a gun in the commission of a crime is a capitol offense. One of many reasons why Singapore is the number three safest cities in the world.

[StRobert]

Here is the article. It's been reported all across the globe. https://www.borderreport.com/immigra...aja-9-wounded/ I lived very close to this. Cartel people had homes in Puerto Nuevo next door to me. Wtf Mexico?

10 dead, too much violence for my taste. Regular mass shootings in the US and now in Mexico. This shooting was in San Vicente about 60-70 miles south of Ensenada. I was in Ensenada this month a lot of people in the marina and tourist zona and it looked very safe.

[Hargow20]

Last yea I was waiting in line at the border & saw this girl that I knew. She was getting beers to drink while she was waiting in line with her friends. It was really dumb. The police look for gringo's to do dumb things like this. They extort big bribes from dummies like this. !!

Crossing the street, or even going outside very briefly to go next door, with an open container of alcohol is just one of many idiotic ways to unnecessarily catch the attention of policia and get jammed up into possibly having to pay a bribe on the spot. Will admit I've on a couple of occasions taken open drinks from HK to go arriba at Cascadas next door with a chica LOL. Typically ( 95% of the time) no one will notice if you're just walking to next door but if policia just happen to be watching and notice, it could possibly be an issue.

[DonCarlos1234]

Tijuana: "In a city of about 2. 2 million people, 105 homicides are committed for every 100,000 residents" Tijuana is second most violent city in thw world.

I agree here. Law enforcement is disorganized & it shows in the Zona.

"The different levels of government don't know how to divide the responsibilities among local, state and federal agencies," she said. "It needs to be clear the governor is coordinating and is in charge, and if the National Guard is involved, it's her responsibility to oversee the federal forces, which don't know how to do police work. ".

https://www.borderreport.com/immigra...iolent-cities/ Celaya Mexico ranks 1st in the world.

https://www.worldatlas.com/cities/th...the-world.html

Here is the article. It's been reported all across the globe. https://www.borderreport.com/immigra...aja-9-wounded/ I lived very close to this. Cartel people had homes in Puerto Nuevo next door to me. Wtf Mexico?

[Hargow20]

There has been a lot of corruption taking place in Rosarito. So the municipal were required to renew their gun permits. ? The Mexican govt should require checks on all Mexican law enforcement.

https://www.elsoldetijuana.com.mx/lo...o-7129871.html

[BrotherMouzone]

Beers and liquors bought from HK are allowed in Tropical and vice versa, as both bars are owned by the same party and guys cross the street back and forth to both. Liquor bottles and beers in hotels have bars' labels, but beers sold in bars have none. Tropical security guys are very careful checking bottles to make sure guys don't sneak in outside beers.

Crossing the street, or even going outside very briefly to go next door, with an open container of alcohol is just one of many idiotic ways to unnecessarily catch the attention of policia and get jammed up into possibly having to pay a bribe on the spot. Will admit I've on a couple of occasions taken open drinks from HK to go arriba at Cascadas next door with a chica LOL. Typically ( 95% of the time) no one will notice if you're just walking to next door but if policia just happen to be watching and notice, it could possibly be an issue.

[Hargow20]

Tijuana: "In a city of about 2. 2 million people, 105 homicides are committed for every 100,000 residents" Tijuana is second most violent city in thw world.

I agree here. Law enforcement is disorganized & it shows in the Zona.

"The different levels of government don't know how to divide the responsibilities among local, state and federal agencies," she said. "It needs to be clear the governor is coordinating and is in charge, and if the National Guard is involved, it's her responsibility to oversee the federal forces, which don't know how to do police work. ".

https://www.borderreport.com/immigra...iolent-cities/ Celaya Mexico ranks 1st in the world.

https://www.worldatlas.com/cities/th...the-world.html

[Captain Solo]

Beers and liquors bought from HK are allowed in Tropical and vice versa, as both bars are owned by the same party and guys cross the street back and forth to both. Liquor bottles and beers in hotels have bars' labels, but beers sold in bars have none. Tropical security guys are very careful checking bottles to make sure guys don't sneak in outside beers.

Wednesday night I was waiting for my Tropical girl to show, went outside, left my beer with security guard to smoke on the sidewalk in front of the bar. 3 Mexican guys, staying at Rizo with white wrist bands, went down to Tropical with beer bottles, apparently claimed they were bought in Rizo. Security guys would not let them bring the beers in. The guys argued with security, not in loud or aggressive manners but security still refused, 2 guys dropped and shattered their beer bottles on the sidewalk. Chato, Tropical's burly and bearded GM came out working the issue, but quickly got really mad, called in policia.

Within 1 minute a Policia Municipal pick up truck showed up with 2 cops. They rounded up 3 guys, questioning them. Then 2 more trucks and 3 moto cops immediately showed up. They questioned the guys and Tropical's GM and workers. Looked like Tropical accused them of drinking on sidewalk and assaulting security. Polcia quickly cuffed 3 guys together and ordered them to get onto the truck bed. A Tropical's mesero vouched for the guy who did not drop his beer; policia quickly uncuffed and let him go. The other 2 guys were resisting boarding the truck, quickly got pulled up onto the truck bed by their armpits and driven away. Looks like Tijuana policias are highly experienced in quick loading suspects this way.

This is how quickly small disputes can turn into nasty confrontations and ruin your visit in Tijuana. When you have problems at the bars, it's best not to threaten or abuse anyone verbally or physically and risk being arrested. Insist on seeing managers and try to resolve problems quietly, or just give up fighting bars' workers over small change. Workers and managers at Tijuana's putas bars have to deal with some nastiest people in Mexico, including the extremely violent cartels, so they can be very rough when challenged. I had a complaint against a Tropical girl price jacking me, just to see how Tropical handle complaints. Chato handled it fairly, took his time, let both sides air their grievances, let the girl go without disciplining her, then quietly refunded my money.

In this Wed night confrontation, he was visibly angry, told me nothing happened with the guys, even ordered me back in the bar.

[Sol12]

The last time I drove into Mexico, some drunken idiot smashed into me on Revolution. He threatened me, and then ran when the police showed up.

I had Mexican insurance, and my US insurance covered me too. So there was subrogation, as the two companies fought for my claim. Apparently, the guy who hit me had a new car, and whoever paid my claim got his car. So I received a nice check for my totaled car.

The police were very polite, but could speak no English.

After that, no more driving in Tijuana, although I do rent cars in the DF.

Reminds me of the only accident I was in in all my years of driving in Tijuana was a HK girl hitting me on her way home, happened a little outside the Zona. The lucky thing is that there was a motorcycle cop right in front of us when it happened so he knew who was at fault. She was with some guy that was actually driving but he quickly switched seats with the girl since I'm sure he had been drinking. So we go to the police station to work out details of payment since she didn't have insurance. The guy was trying to act like a tuff guy and kissing up to the cops to make me think they were on his side and I shouldn't be taking money from the girl.

So we got the estimate of repair and of course she didn't have the amount on her. I think it was around $700 maybe a little less. So she told me we could go to her place to get money. Something like $300 and she would pay us the rest later since I knew where she worked and one of the managers. In reality I wasn't looking to take all the money from her and might of blown off the $300 if the guy wasn't trying to act like he was intimidating me. She wasn't a very attractive girl also so I knew this was a lot of money for her. So after getting the $300 I never tried to get the rest since I didn't have any plans to fix the damage since it didn't hinder the driving ability and was just a cosmetic problem.

[Explorer8939]

I never drive to Tijuana. The risk reward factor of walking is by far the better choice. I walk to the Zona if the sun is still out. Or I take the taxi vans at after dark. The vans only charge 20 pesos. The police rarely if ever shake down US citizens in the Zona and downtown for the past few years. Driving in Tijuana is a open invitation for police to stop Americian's. The other factor is that it is much faster to wait in the pedestrian lines.

The last time I drove into Mexico, some drunken idiot smashed into me on Revolution. He threatened me, and then ran when the police showed up.

I had Mexican insurance, and my US insurance covered me too. So there was subrogation, as the two companies fought for my claim. Apparently, the guy who hit me had a new car, and whoever paid my claim got his car. So I received a nice check for my totaled car.

The police were very polite, but could speak no English.

After that, no more driving in Tijuana, although I do rent cars in the DF.