Crime, Safety, and the Police

[DramaFree11]

Most cases of Americans being killed in Latin America will result in spin jobs by the local govt. Truth is to me, it doesn't matter if it was cartel or a guy who wanted tires. The lesson is simple. Life is cheap. An article yesterday said the killer put the tires on his GF car. If you watch tik tok there's many guys stealing cat converters in usa that pull out guns and shoot when the car owner realizes what's going on. The minimal price to kill someone for monetary reasons in mexixo is about $5 dollars. So yes someone will kill you for your tires especially if you walk up to them in the middle of it.

Sorry, I have to disagree, I would bet 85-95% of deaths of Gringos in Mxico is Drug related, one way or another. This can be as simple or family member owing money to the wrong person, or being in the wrong place at the wrong time.

If you mess with drugs in a foreign country bad things will happen sooner or later.

[Phordphan]

Most cases of Americans being killed in Latin America will result in spin jobs by the local govt. Truth is to me, it doesn't matter if it was cartel or a guy who wanted tires. The lesson is simple. Life is cheap. An article yesterday said the killer put the tires on his GF car. If you watch tik tok there's many guys stealing cat converters in usa that pull out guns and shoot when the car owner realizes what's going on. The minimal price to kill someone for monetary reasons in mexixo is about $5 dollars. So yes someone will kill you for your tires especially if you walk up to them in the middle of it.

I get all of my current events new from Tik Tok.

[Dogers69]

FWIW, there are reports that the cops' story about tire robbing is BS. Some suspect this was another murder due to mistaken identity. One cartel rubbing out suspected members of another cartel. I think the US needs to come down like the wrath of God on a few of these cartels. There needs to be some pretty harsh penalties for killing or harming innocent tourists.

Most cases of Americans being killed in Latin America will result in spin jobs by the local govt. Truth is to me, it doesn't matter if it was cartel or a guy who wanted tires. The lesson is simple. Life is cheap. An article yesterday said the killer put the tires on his GF car. If you watch tik tok there's many guys stealing cat converters in usa that pull out guns and shoot when the car owner realizes what's going on. The minimal price to kill someone for monetary reasons in mexixo is about $5 dollars. So yes someone will kill you for your tires especially if you walk up to them in the middle of it.

[LuvMexicanas]

The more people post about crimes in Tijuana or elsewhere in Mexico, the better for me. The more guys who are discouraged to visit because of fear, the better for me. The fewer swinging dicks, the better for me. Stay away, please.

Sincerely,

LuvMexicanas.

[Captain Solo]

Mexican press rarely does independent investigation. In this case they only repeat what the Baja Norte AG told them, and she did not have hard evidence, did not give out a lot of info, only a theory the banditos wanted to steal the tires. Wonder how she can be sure they just wanted tires?

It's hard to believe banditos would kill 3 guys just to steal some tires, then they did not take the tires, just burned the truck. Hard to believe they could shoot all 3 guys in the heads if they were resisting, fighting.

The 3 guys were surfers. Why were they camping next to a stream in Santo Tomas, in the middle of nowhere 15 miles East of the shore as in this BBC article. They may be in or near cartel's territory where narcos produce and distribute drugs, looked suspicious and had to be removed quickly.

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cd13vgg720jo

I think there is more to this triple murder than just a random robbery. There were quite a few cases in Tijuana where Americans, including high school kids, tried to score some drugs, ended up kidnapped and murdered. I would wait for more information from reliable sources. May be the bros know people with inside information. Baja LE has incentives to spin crimes involving foreign nationals like this one. The Mexican press does not know everything. Even when they know big stories, they may be too scared to report them truthfully.

Random violent crimes of opportunities against tourists are far more serious than violence between cartels.

[Sol12]

The only solution is make US aid to Mexico contingent on specific justice & LE reforms in Mexico.

Maybe the US could try to discourage the use of heavy drugs instead of letting cities be over run with drug attics. As long as there is a demand criminal groups will find a way to supply it.

So I'm not sure your theory would work since the actual people that would be trying to fight the Cartels would be killed. So far this year in Mexico they have had numerous politicians or people wanting to run in the upcoming elections be killed. Right now the Cartels run more of Mexico than the government from what I see and hear.

I don't believe there's an easy solution and unfortunately both the US and Mexico have let it grow over the years instead of dealing with the problem in the beginning.

[Hargow20]

The only solution is make US aid to Mexico contingent on specific justice & LE reforms in Mexico.

FWIW, there are reports that the cops' story about tire robbing is BS. Some suspect this was another murder due to mistaken identity. One cartel rubbing out suspected members of another cartel. I think the US needs to come down like the wrath of God on a few of these cartels. There needs to be some pretty harsh penalties for killing or harming innocent tourists.

[Phordphan]

FWIW, there are reports that the cops' story about tire robbing is BS. Some suspect this was another murder due to mistaken identity. One cartel rubbing out suspected members of another cartel. I think the US needs to come down like the wrath of God on a few of these cartels. There needs to be some pretty harsh penalties for killing or harming innocent tourists.

[Hargow20]

Yes, I do carry one.

Have you crossed into MEX with it? Thanks.

[Jackie888]

You guys should stay in the city as much as possible when in Mexico because cops stay in the city. The further from the city you go the less likely of security. It's like that across Mexico whether it's Mexico City or Tijuana. Most of the slaughter is outside the cities. The Mormon ambush, the student massacre. Shit usually happens on roads between big cities. If you are crazy enough to travel out of the city, take a backup with you and a couple of mags. And no. It's not cartel vs cartel only. That is a lot of wishful thinking. Good luck.

[Dogers69]

Now this is an international accident. It looks like the attackers wanted their new tires. Mainly until now, crime has been cartel to cartel. What is alarming is that they attacked ordinary tourists. More news link to video News 9 Australia https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EUVjo2q1SWc.

Crime has been cartel to cartel? Hu? Who told you that. ? Peoppe kill each other by the dozens every week in Chicago and nyc what makes you think nobody is killing each other in mexixo unless theybare in tje cartels vs cartel situation?

[Cocr Brotheler]

I bought pen taser and attached a leash to it. I like it because it is easy to carry and take out. The other good thing is you can use it scare off the bandito's.

Have you crossed into MEX with it? Thanks.

[Cocr Brotheler]

I bought pen taser and attached a leash to it. I like it because it is easy to carry and take out. The other good thing is you can use it scare off the bandito's.

Nice I added one of these to my list. I want to keep it hidden so they don't try and take from me and use on me. That is small and easily concealed really helps. My incident happened so fast and she separated so quick from me don't know that I could of tased her in time however the clicking sound should keep them away.

[StRobert]

Here's an update to this news grabbing story: https://amp.theguardian.com/world/ar...ing-men-police.

Now this is an international accident. It looks like the attackers wanted their new tires. Mainly until now, crime has been cartel to cartel. What is alarming is that they attacked ordinary tourists. More news link to video News 9 Australia https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EUVjo2q1SWc.

[Rambo1969]

Yes it wasn't an ordinary robbery because people usually don't get killed but unfortunately these tourists seemed to want to fight it out and not much you can do when people who are probably high on drugs and with guns want something if yours. Car jackings happen all over and its best to let them have it. That's what insurance is for.

They were caught so fast because the family acted quickly and put messages on social media which the Mexican authorities supposedly reacted to before the victims countries of origin made contact. Unfortunately the Mexican government puts a higher priority on tourists who are missing compared to its own citizens.

The family was able to use the GPS of one of the victims to find the location of the suspects who were dumb and kept it.

Thanks Sol12 . I was wondering how they caught them so fast.

The whole episode is so sad. Some of these criminals have literally zero value to human life. Scary!