Crime, Safety, and the Police

[Double]

out in force,

i was down in old t town last night. the police were out in force. they were all over the place. lights flashing, sirens, mask over their faces, and speeding all over from the revolution to the zona norte. they were walking the side walks pulling people over on the revolution. the first time that i have seen that. when i saw that guys in the truck with mask over their faces, i jump into a cab and fast.

one of the cab drivers told me that the police are in a tense situation with the narcos and that they have been displaying alot of presence and power. another said that they are out protecting the visitors from the street thugs and to prevent the sale of drugs on the streets. the last cab i took said that they are out robing, pulling people over for bribes. i think that there is truth all the stories.

tijuana is not the same place that it was 10 or even 5 years ago. but the ladies, and still working so i still brave the trip....

i had at least 3 different guys offer to sell me drugs, which made me feel very uncomfortable. whenever i hear someone say drugs i pick up my pace to a near jog...........:-), to get the hell out of there.

[One Wing Low]

and noone would dare put a few holes in your chest...

I have never had any serious problems, but it always cracks me up when someone says you just have to know how to handle yourself, etc.
Even Police Commanders are not safe in T.J.

[Rabo Verde]

I have never had any serious problems, but it always cracks me up when someone says you just have to know how to handle yourself, etc.
Even Police Commanders are not safe in T.J.


Tijuana agents shot, killed while guarding commander

By Anna Cearley
UNION-TRIBUNE STAFF WRITER

December 17, 2005

TIJUANA – Two state preventive police agents were gunned down yesterday while guarding the home of the agency's Tijuana commander shortly after he had killed a man in a shootout, Mexican authorities said.

Early yesterday, three cars drove to the home of commander Carlos Gómez Miguel, who was standing outside, according to a news release from the State Attorney General's Office. Shots were fired at Gómez, and he shot back.

Gómez and other state police agents pursued the assailants. About 12:45 a.m., they got in another shootout and pursued a car downtown, where the driver lost control and crashed. When the driver continued shooting at police, Gómez shot and killed him, according to the news release.

The person's identity wasn't available.

Afterward, two agents were sent to guard Gómez's home. Yesterday morning, the agents were ambushed. Juan Hernández Gutiérrez, 30, and Jesús Noe Rosas Zúñiga, 27, were found dead inside their patrol car, according to Mexican authorities.

The state preventive police agency is an intelligence-gathering force that focuses on crime prevention. It operates independently from the state's regular state police force.

Yesterday's shootings were the latest in an unusually high number of assaults over the past three months against members of the state preventive police force.

An officer was shot three times Oct. 5 as he was returning to his Tijuana home, but survived. Another officer escaped injury after being shot at Oct. 26 while traveling by car to Mexicali. Two other officers survived an ambush Nov. 15 in Tijuana.

[Headache]

This is what you do if you get robbed by the Tijuana police. It happened to me 2 years ago.

Report the police crime to the US consulate in Tijuana. The consulate in Tijuana is by the racetrack and $10 by taxi. I don't know their email address. When I was there, many American victims contacted the embassy by email. The Tijuana US consulate has an emergency phone number (google search). There is a consulate lawyer that talks to you if you get thrown in jail anywhere in Baja.

The consulate told me to go there on the day in which they take American victims to the Tijuana Police Internal Affairs department and then to the District Attorny.

At the Internal Affairs, they have pictures of all the police on duty at the time you of the crime. The consulate lawyer helps you fill out a police report there and at the DA. If you have names, police car numbers or badge numbers, it helps.

When I was there, one young American reported the police took his group to a special room to question them, and then to the ATM machine, the DA reported that case as kidnapping.

Please report the crime, eventually they will correct the problem.

[One Wing Low]

damn this sounds serious. you should call 866 tj3 info and complain about those cops. don't get raped up your ass and let the apes go free.

i avoid the tj cops like shit. they drive around in their paddy wagons and seem to enjoy roughing up and arrresting people.

on 12/10/05 at around noon. i took some friends of mine me. they handcuffed me to my friend and started harrassing us about his perscribed meds. they threw us in the back of a truck and took us to a little questioning house. i was asking for the guys name and badge in the back of the truck and he looked nervous. he kept telling me to be quiet, but fuck that. i've been through this before and i want names. my friend was freaking out a bit and asked me to chill. i finlly waited to see what was going to happen. in the booth by rev just under the arch is where they took us. they said we could give them 500.00 or go to jail and pay 1,000.00 i kept saying take me to jail, i've done nothing wrong. my friend and i were there for about a half hour and in short, they took all our money. i had about 285.00 and my friend just over 200.00. as we were leaving i pleaded to the guy to give me back 20.00 so i coulsd at least get a street girl.

[Rimbaud]

Has anyone been to the red light district, (zona de tolerancia) in Manzanillo? Heard stuff about it, but can't find an exact address- locale. Where should I take a cab to? is there a specific bar to start off at? Any advice on Manzanillo girls.

[Gilgamesh]

On 12/10/05 at around noon. I took some friends of mine who were visiting San Diego across the border. We stopped and got my friend some perscriptions and then filled them. We went to AB and were enjoying ourselves when my friend wanted to go get a V pill. I told him I'd take him to a nearby pharmacy. As we were walking a local started talking to my friend. I encouraged him to move his ass so we could get back to AB. After getting him a pill, and he took it there at the pharmacy we stepped outside and the guy was distracting my friend again. Then the Polica drove up and I started to walk away. We left our other friend at AB and I wanted to get him quick. The next thing I know they're talking to me and they grab me. They handcuffed me to my friend and started harrassing us about his perscribed meds. They threw us in the back of a truck and took us to a little questioning house. I was asking for the guys name and badge in the back of the truck and he looked nervous. He kept telling me to be quiet, but fuck that. I've been through this before and I want names. My friend was freaking out a bit and asked me to chill. I finlly waited to see what was going to happen. In the booth by Rev just under the arch is where they took us. They said we could give them 500.00 or go to jail and pay 1,000.00 I kept saying take me to jail, I've done nothing wrong. My friend and I were there for about a half hour and in short, they took all our money. I had about 285.00 and my friend just over 200.00. As we were leaving I pleaded to the guy to give me back 20.00 so I coulsd at least get a street girl. He actually did, and that was cool, but the whole experience left a sour taste in my mouth for T.J. We went back to AB and explained what had happened to us to our other friend. He let me borrow 60.00 so I could take a hottie upstairs. I offered her 50.00 and she jumped on the offer. She said she remembered me from another time, but if I fucked her before I was too drunk to remember. I hate to repeat.(lol) We took a cab back to the border, but returned later that night. Another night just me and one of my friends were walking to A.B. at about 10pm and two red jacketed guys tried to stop us and get our attention. We jumped into the nearest cab and said Fuck T.J. for the rest of the trip. Be safe with your money and your life.

[Lascivious]

Call yellow or another company and ask for an estimate. They can give you a pretty good idea of the faire.

[Mr Stein]

How much would it cost to catch a taxi upon depature from the TJ border onward to lets say to Mira mesa blvd area in San Deigo?


Any inputt would help greatly.

Tks guys.

[RenoGeorge]

Tomorrow I leave for Tijuana. I have been a long time observer of this board and of others. Going all the way back to Paranoia.com and Redsnake.com. I have been to Tijuana now 3 times and this will be my forth expedition. I have never had any problems with law enforcement down there in the past. But, by reading all the posts, it is starting to sound scary. When I return, I will give a good detailed report of my adventure. If anyone is planning on coming down, please feel free to private message me.

[One Wing Low]

Hi Jimmy, El, Baltimonger...

La Perla is my favorite restaurant also. It's nice and clean, the beer is only $1. I usually order the $7 Botana de Camarron y Pulpos, which is spicy seafood coctail, then the $5.00 Burrito de mariscos, which gives me 3 juicy burritos filled with shrimp, octopus, fish ... topped with salsa sauce and chesse, fresh, juicy and delicious. You should try their marlin taco. Marlin is tough and chewy, but perfect with a slice of melted cheese.

I had a major diarrhea eating at, not the diner, but the taco diner next to Chicago Club. I never came back. The taco stand at the corner has good tacos and delicious birria, which is a beef stew. Across the street is the ice cream store. Damn Mexican icecream is good. They have not heard of cholesterol.

I will be in TJ this weekend and hope to meet you guys. I prefer to meet in Chicago Club where it's quieter and has more room. Will PM you for date, time, place and signal to recognize and meet. Perhaps you veterans can show me around TJ. I had some of the best and funnest conversations with the bro mongers in TJ bars.

Life for us mongers is so good in TJ, I have a hard time justifying going anywhere else, well, except may be Buenos Aires with Captain Jackson. Argentinian chicas are probably some of the prettiest, sweetest, kindest and most honest people anywhere.

One

Hi One Wing,

The restaurant with the thatched roof is called “La Perla”. I have eaten there several times and I think the food is really good and I have never gotten sick. I have eaten in the little diner attached to Chicago Club and I had stomach problems both times. I will never eat there again. I don’t eat any of the food from the street vendors – I don’t have an iron stomach.

I think I will be heading down to Hong Kong on Wednesday and/or Thursday night so if you are around let me know.

Jimmy TJ

[El Juez]

La Perla is my favorite restaraunt in La Zona. Clean, good service and great fish tacos.

I never had any problems with policia for two and a half years of mongering until a couple of months ago when they ripped me off for $100 during my first and only stop and search by them at La Linea Sentri. After reading One Wing Low's story I guess I shouldn't complain. At least they didn't send the damned Army after me.

[Jimmy Tj]

Hi One Wing,

The restaurant with the thatched roof is called “La Perla”. I have eaten there several times and I think the food is really good and I have never gotten sick. I have eaten in the little diner attached to Chicago Club and I had stomach problems both times. I will never eat there again. I don’t eat any of the food from the street vendors – I don’t have an iron stomach.

My problems with the Policia seem to run in streaks. I can go two months without any problems and in one week I can be stopped four times. When I lived in Playas de Tijuana I would park my car at Levya Hotel and walk to the border to get to work. I would get stopped just as much at 7am as I would at 7pm.

When my girl used to work at Chicago Club I would sometimes drop her off at her house in Colonial Hildago and head for the border. It was 2:30am in the morning and I was in Taxi Libre and the Policia pulled us over. The Policia thought I just scored some drugs. The cab driver was a good guy and explained to the Policia I just dropped off my girlfriend and we were heading for the border. The Policia still searched me and the front passenger seat where I was sitting but as usual they find nothing. I always introduce myself to the Taxi Libre drivers and ask them their name. Make small talk with them because you never now when you will need them.

One night I was crossing the new pedestrian bridge that takes you over the highway to get back to the US (La Linea Sentri) and I was stopped by two Policia. I asked why are you stopping me and searching me. They guy said many Americans come down and buy drugs. I told him I don’t have any drugs and this is why I no longer live in Playas de Tijuana. They both walked away from me after searching me and finding nothing. I am thinking about renting an apartment in Zona Rio in a few months but not sure.

I think I will be heading down to Hong Kong on Wednesday and/or Thursday night so if you are around let me know.

Jimmy TJ

[Rush 2112]

On Friday I went to the nice seafood restaurant with the thatched roof at the corner of Coahuilla and Ninos Heroes. Haven't been there for months. The waitress came out and greeted me by my first name. I was surprised that she remembered.

Are you sure she called you "One" and not "Juan"???

Sorry, couldn't resist

[One Wing Low]

hi jimmy,

you sure are attracted to policia. i went to many places all over mexico and have never been hassled by the policia.

i was ticketed for running a stop sign in ensenada. i told the judge who sat inside the policia station (how convenient) to give me a break and he did. fine was $25 paid in cash to the judge. he probably pocketed and spent it on the chicas.

on the way back midway between ensenada and tj, i was stopped by the army guys, armed to their teeth, and the car was searched for drogas. by their sly smiles, i know they were looking for propinas. i acted firmly like i would never give them anything, and they let me go. every car was searched midway between esenada and tj. if you show any fear or weaknesses, the assholes will be burrowing in for some shit.

on friday i went to the nice seafood restaurant with the thatched roof at the corner of coahuilla and ninos heroes. haven't been there for months. the waitress came out and greeted me by my first name. i was surprised that she remembered. had some great seafood coctails between sessions with the fine chicas.

after a few hassles with the cabbie assholes, i have been driving over in my onw car. it's like a batmobile. i can outrun any car in mexico if i need to. i am tired of the walk back and forth, inhaling the dust and the [CodeWord109] along the way. if i have to wait in my car, i would be in comfort, listening to radio and music, not exposing myself to the muggers, banditos and bad policias. the round trip time to clear the border is about the same as walking and taking the sweaty cabs. on friday night, the long return line stretched back to near chicago club. but it only took 45 minutes to clear the border.

between fine food and fine chicas, it's good to be a monger in tj. life is good.

i have lived in san diego the past 16 months, rented a house in playas de tijuana for 6 months, dated a bar girl for 15 months and i visit zona norte anywhere from 1 to 4 times a week. i have been stopped by the policia 60 times over this time period just walking (i always go by myself). i have been stopped in my car 6 times all around revolution and calle coahuila. i have paid off the policia only twice in all my dealings with them once for $60 and another for $40 just because i did not feel like playing their games both times i was in my car.

specifically say no la linea sentri. i walk over the bridge and avoid the shake downs at la linea sentri. i have run into the policia on the bridge before and i was searched. i never have any drugs on me legal or illegal. i always play stupid with policia and force them to speak to me in english even though i know spanish. when walking across the border at night it is never more than a few minutes waiting in line.

jimmy tj