Crime, Safety, and the Police

[Travv]

The traditional solution to these types of problems in businesses is the shotgun under the bar counter and a handy baseball bat. When the business is being shaken down and the owner fears for his life, then the shotgun solves the problem. I can personally vouch for the fear that intruders have when they hear a shotgun being racked and made ready. They decide fast it is time for them to be leaving! As I tell locals, the difference between Mexico and the USA is that in the USA, criminals fear the people because the people have guns. In Mexico, the people fear the criminals because the criminals have the guns.

My Uber driver told me about another strip club incident in Mexico the same day, in another part of Mexico. I googled it. Very sad story. Strip club may not have paid proper protection money. Alot politics, not much of a prison system like the us so not as much law and order.

[JamesXFisher]

Something like this nearly happened to me a few months ago. I was with tiny SG Michelle, who looks 18, we were naked having fun. A bunch of masked policia and soldiers, PEP, federales, municipal, not sure, had blocked off the callejon and were doing some kinda raids near Valentina but I was reckless and just walked through them and took Michelle up. While we were cavorting on the bed, we heard the soldiers marching through the hallway knocking on doors. At this point I really freaked out because I was assuming michelle is over 18 (she said 22) but it's not like I'd checked her ID, and she's the tiniest SG in the callejon, also she looked nervous, naturally. Anyway, the soldiers didn't knock on our door, but we heard them near us, and it was kinda scary, so I tried screwing more but eventually my pito deflated and we gave up.

Would it not be easier just to rent an AirBnb and not have these worries? This is what I have done in Guaudalara (whose police force are definitely prone to various types of mordida) and everything is copacetic.

Similar to you, I have a regular in Jakarta who is definitely 18 (I took care to check her KTP when we first met) but who could pass for younger. This has been a key driver of AirBnb over hotels for me, as the Indo cops are at least as bad as the Mex!!

Safe mongering all.

[SenorTJ]

Had bad experience with policia recently. In zona Norte hotel, which I won't name, because some posters will defend their favorite places like you are attacking their sports team. Anyway, in hotel, light was on, in bed naked, evening, not middle night. Policia tried breaking door down. They had room key, machine guns, ski masks, seven deep, flashlights, the room safety lock held up but could see them. Door opens two inches. I start yelling what do you want because they yelled in Spanish. I put underwear on, let them in because they said policia, and I had no choice. I assumed it was a robbery or they hoped I had a girl who they could arrest me for. Anyway they come in room looking for someone. Even checking bathroom. What was the point? Who knows. I was scared of the machine guns being pointed at me. If the door wasn't with a safety lock, they would of rushed in tripping over each other to squeeze in door. And if someone pulls trigger by accident, just like in the states it would be the victims fault. I probably won't ever sleep in zona Norte again. And always sleep with lights on, incase anyone comes into room, which I always do in Tijuana. I've seen policia and military rush into other hotels like they are arresting a terrorist. So it's not something new. I just thought the better hotels would have some agreement of courtesy with policia. Obviously not. And I do think the whole stripper escort scene gets these guys adrenaline pumping more then it would for home invasions five blocks away on boring residential streets. Don't send me hate responses I know some only want the positive stories. But some can handle the truth and still navigate Tijuana successfully.

Something like this nearly happened to me a few months ago. I was with tiny SG Michelle, who looks 18, we were naked having fun. A bunch of masked policia and soldiers, PEP, federales, municipal, not sure, had blocked off the callejon and were doing some kinda raids near Valentina but I was reckless and just walked through them and took Michelle up. While we were cavorting on the bed, we heard the soldiers marching through the hallway knocking on doors. At this point I really freaked out because I was assuming michelle is over 18 (she said 22) but it's not like I'd checked her ID, and she's the tiniest SG in the callejon, also she looked nervous, naturally. Anyway, the soldiers didn't knock on our door, but we heard them near us, and it was kinda scary, so I tried screwing more but eventually my pito deflated and we gave up.

[Dogers69]

My Uber driver told me about another strip club incident in Mexico the same day, in another part of Mexico. I googled it. Very sad story. Strip club may not have paid proper protection money. Alot politics, not much of a prison system like the us so not as much law and order.

[Jackie888]

Hate to tell you guys but the police didn't do anything wrong. You're shock because you've never been on the receiving end of a police search before. What they did is actually pretty mild.

[Dcrist0527]

My description of the encounter and explaining how a accidental shooting is very likely when crashing threw doors, trying to knock them down even with safety lock on, is because these accidental shootings happen all the time. How many times a year do people get shot in accidental shootings? A lot. In USA, police can't ram hotel doors down one after the other to find someone. To me, police always get more ramped up when it involves woman half naked. I see it at the beach in the states every day. You see the police and military drive in the alley every five minutes because it's exciting for them. Do you think they drive through the more dangerous streets two blocks away as much? I don't. I would not want to know what would of happened if I had a girl in the room or we were in the middle of sex. Or if I had been sleeping and took longer to open the door. To me, it was a extremely dangerous situation. I'm sure there's many people in Mexico who don't prostitution so I wouldn't be surprised if it had more to do with those political conflicts than searching for someone.

It's "very likely", yet it didn't happen. It happens "even with the safety on". Those are just incindiary statements not based in reality. What in the world would support your "safety" argument?

And I'm not even going to ask how you find out the guys are amped up on the beach "every day".

Why do they drive through the bar block? Because that one block in Tijuana probably adds more to Mexican economy than any other for thousands of miles. It's a cash cow.

I'm not trying to argue. We all have our opinions. But I do take exception to fear mongering.

[ScatManDoo]

... Useless without a hotel name. You are doing the community a disservice by not identifying which hotels police enter at will..

Picking at posters? I think so.

The instance the poster described could happen at any Tijuana hotel. The two raids I observed years ago done by Tijuana policia were handled with the same aggressive way.

[MemoeNasty]

Had bad experience with policia recently. In zona Norte hotel, which I won't name, because some posters will defend their favorite places like you are attacking their sports team. Anyway, in hotel, light was on, in bed naked, evening, not middle night. Policia tried breaking door down. They had room key, machine guns, ski masks, seven deep, flashlights, the room safety lock held up but could see them. Door opens two inches. I start yelling what do you want because they yelled in Spanish. I put underwear on, let them in because they said policia, and I had no choice. I assumed it was a robbery or they hoped I had a girl who they could arrest me for. Anyway they come in room looking for someone. Even checking bathroom. What was the point? Who knows. I was scared of the machine guns being pointed at me. If the door wasn't with a safety lock, they would of rushed in tripping over each other to squeeze in door. And if someone pulls trigger by accident, just like in the states it would be the victims fault. I probably won't ever sleep in zona Norte again. And always sleep with lights on, incase anyone comes into room, which I always do in Tijuana. I've seen policia and military rush into other hotels like they are arresting a terrorist. So it's not something new. I just thought the better hotels would have some agreement of courtesy with policia. Obviously not. And I do think the whole stripper escort scene gets these guys adrenaline pumping more then it would for home invasions five blocks away on boring residential streets. Don't send me hate responses I know some only want the positive stories. But some can handle the truth and still navigate Tijuana successfully.

Stay at the Ibiza next time. I've heard of and been in the clubs when they've been raided before. Never heard of the police raiding a hotel. Ibiza is low key, cheap and problem free. Stayed there too many times to count in the last few years. Never any drama. Moe.

[WombatEd2]

Do you believe there are hotels that policia may not enter at will? Hotels that could be identified as such?

I have no evidence to offer, but I would expect that since HK is the heaviest hitter in the Zona, especially if you include their affiliates, that they would be least vulnerable to misconduct by police or other criminals.

[Artisttyp]

Do you believe there are hotels that policia may not enter at will? Hotels that could be identified as such?

The picking of nits ?

Ok I'll bite.

Some hotels are more susceptible than others but obviously ALL are on the menu.

Although I have a hard time seeing a swat raid happening while sitting in my room at the Ticuan.

[Dogers69]

No reason to doubt your account and in fact, it was corroborated by another poster. So we're all better from your contribution.

I'm pretty sure that I would feel exactly as you did, if it were me. At the same time, I think there are some comments that inflame the situation. Accidentally pulling the trigger? Arresting a terrorist? Well, the laws are different there but at the same time, I don't think calling some of these narcos terrorists is far off. This is a big if, but if they are going after someone big, I'd hope they would have more information but these are not good dudes. And to say they are amped up because of the strippers? Cone on. These guys are going room to room with the possibility of being the next cartel victim. I don't think they need strippers to get amped.

We'll never know why or who. And as I said, your experience would probably sit the same way with me. But I don't know that I would portray this event as normal.

My description of the encounter and explaining how a accidental shooting is very likely when crashing threw doors, trying to knock them down even with safety lock on, is because these accidental shootings happen all the time. How many times a year do people get shot in accidental shootings? A lot. In USA, police can't ram hotel doors down one after the other to find someone. To me, police always get more ramped up when it involves woman half naked. I see it at the beach in the states every day. You see the police and military drive in the alley every five minutes because it's exciting for them. Do you think they drive through the more dangerous streets two blocks away as much? I don't. I would not want to know what would of happened if I had a girl in the room or we were in the middle of sex. Or if I had been sleeping and took longer to open the door. To me, it was a extremely dangerous situation. I'm sure there's many people in Mexico who don't prostitution so I wouldn't be surprised if it had more to do with those political conflicts than searching for someone.

[ScatManDoo]

AGREE. Useless without a hotel name. You are doing the community a disservice by not identifying which hotels police enter at will. That means ALOT to some mongers.

Do you believe there are hotels that policia may not enter at will? Hotels that could be identified as such?

[Captain Solo]

I was in HK and Cascada between 8 PM to 1 AM. Did not see any raids at either places.

Policia with face masks going room to room with automatic weapons looking drugs or fugitives is kind of stupid. AMLO probably pays good overtimes for a chance to claim some credit. A dozen dealers sell drugs all over La Zona right near municipal patrol cars with no impedes. One guy hid his stash on top of the air conditioning machine in the middle of Las Chevelas and kept running in and out to access it.

Chances are policias would raid many hotels at random, Cascada and others. I would not worry too much about it.

[Artisttyp]

I believe it's hotel Cascadas. He talked about it on the HK tread.

Not surprising. One of the many many reasons to avoid the grips of the HK / Azul / Cascadas KKKLAN.

[Artisttyp]

Please I must know which hotel.

AGREE. Useless without a hotel name. You are doing the community a disservice by not identifying which hotels police enter at will. That means ALOT to some mongers.

Thanks.