Crime, Safety, and the Police

[Dcrist0527]

Oh dear, I am planning on visiting San Diego the second week of December. I want to come to the Zona on a Friday afternoon. Will this caravan turn things into a mess and prevent a nice afternoon in Adelita's and Hong Kong Club?

I, too, will be there early December. But I'm not fearful. I've read on these boards that the caravan wasn't real. That Donald Trump made it up for the election. That it was a fake FoxNews story. And I've read how other media outlets are discredited for reporting the story. The funny part is the same people who make these claims regularly attack the credibility of a few others on here.

In all seriousness, I am a little concerned. I will be staying in Tijuana but planned on crossing back a few times and spending time in San Diego as well. Now, I may be spending more time with the chicas in Tijuana. Tough price to pay. LOL.

The talk of border closings is alarming. I'm not sure what it would take to get to that point or what that would mean for US citizens. The dark, adventurous streak in me finds it interesting. But the practical part of me realizes I have flights to catch! So, I am a bit nervous.

[Simon Wagstaff]

Yes, the caravan goes to Tijuana. I live near the border and I catch almost 10 TV channels from Mexico and they show the caravan every day. The first part is already in Tijuana group around 80 gay, lesbian and TS from Central America came by bus. With so many thousands of people at the border crossing can be a mess. I hope that the situation will not get out of control, because the US may even temporarily close the borders. BTW here in California I knew a few girls from Nicaragua, Guatemala and El Salvador they are very pretty and sexy. I would like to adopt one or two 18 year old chicas from this caravan!

Oh dear, I am planning on visiting San Diego the second week of December. I want to come to the Zona on a Friday afternoon. Will this caravan turn things into a mess and prevent a nice afternoon in Adelita's and Hong Kong Club?

[StRobert]

To StRobert.

6,500 migrants in the caravan will camp out at Ped East, Ped West and Otay Mesa for months, waiting for their turns to go in CBP office to apply for asylums. That would seriously delay other pedestrians crossing the border into the US.

How can Mexico allow thousands illegal aliens to roam around their country freely? That just shows Mexico's lawlessness and her government impotent. Soon some migrants will resort to crimes in La Zona to survive.

The US has been very tolerant with illegal immigrants with millions in the Southern states. They are breaking US laws every chance they have as they feel the US is lenient, ineffective and Americans are stupid. In all other countries in the world, illegal aliens would be quickly rounded up, imprisoned and deported. The US government has organizations and people to vet the backgrounds of asylum and visas seekers. Without it, we will be wide open to losers, criminals, terrorists.

Yes, the caravan goes to Tijuana. I live near the border and I catch almost 10 TV channels from Mexico and they show the caravan every day. The first part is already in Tijuana group around 80 gay, lesbian and TS from Central America came by bus. With so many thousands of people at the border crossing can be a mess. I hope that the situation will not get out of control, because the US may even temporarily close the borders. BTW here in California I knew a few girls from Nicaragua, Guatemala and El Salvador they are very pretty and sexy. I would like to adopt one or two 18 year old chicas from this caravan!

[ScatManDoo]

Prime minister of Italy Matteo Salvini has a plan to deport 500,000 illegal people from Italy , just google "Italy mass deportations" A similar situation is in other countries of Western Europe. Such a policy does not make sense to me because first they accept thousands of these poor people and after a year or two they deport them.

I repeat:

Your statement that "both countries are trying to deport them all back" is incorrect.

Doubly-so now.

[StRobert]

Both Germany and Italy are indeed currently active in deporting some of their recently received refugees.

But your statement that "both countries are trying to deport them all back" is both ignorant and incorrect.

Prime minister of Italy Matteo Salvini has a plan to deport 500,000 illegal people from Italy , just google "Italy mass deportations" A similar situation is in other countries of Western Europe. Such a policy does not make sense to me because first they accept thousands of these poor people and after a year or two they deport them.

[Captain Solo]

To StRobert.

6,500 migrants in the caravan will camp out at Ped East, Ped West and Otay Mesa for months, waiting for their turns to go in CBP office to apply for asylums. That would seriously delay other pedestrians crossing the border into the US.

How can Mexico allow thousands illegal aliens to roam around their country freely? That just shows Mexico's lawlessness and her government impotent. Soon some migrants will resort to crimes in La Zona to survive.

The US has been very tolerant with illegal immigrants with millions in the Southern states. They are breaking US laws every chance they have as they feel the US is lenient, ineffective and Americans are stupid. In all other countries in the world, illegal aliens would be quickly rounded up, imprisoned and deported. The US government has organizations and people to vet the backgrounds of asylum and visas seekers. Without it, we will be wide open to losers, criminals, terrorists.

[ScatManDoo]

The scenario looks like 5000 migrants will ask for asylum at the border crossing pedeast or pedwest in Tijuana. If someone does not get asylum, he stays in Tijuana or in Mexico (like those guys from Haiti who came all the way from Brazil because they ended their contract for work in Brazil and now live in Tijuana.) If

the situation at the border will be out of control, the US may temporarily close the borders. BTW 5000 people are not many, for example, Germany (an area similar to the state of Arizona) has accepted 1 million migrants or Italy (an area like California) has received 600,000 migrants. But now both countries are trying to deport them all back.

Both Germany and Italy are indeed currently active in deporting some of their recently received refugees.

But your statement that "both countries are trying to deport them all back" is both ignorant and incorrect.

[StRobert]

About 5,000 migrants, mostly Hondurans in a caravan, is leaving Mexicocity, decidign to head North to Tijuana 1,700 miles to the North West. The caravan must prefer La Zona Norte over all other Mexico's locations.

It's odd the Mexico's government would let a group of thousands illegal immigrants cruising in their territory, even offering them shelter, food and rides, like Mexico does not have economic and crime problems of her own:

http://enewspaper.latimes.com/deskto...c-236bf740270e

The scenario looks like 5000 migrants will ask for asylum at the border crossing pedeast or pedwest in Tijuana. If someone does not get asylum, he stays in Tijuana or in Mexico (like those guys from Haiti who came all the way from Brazil because they ended their contract for work in Brazil and now live in Tijuana.) If

the situation at the border will be out of control, the US may temporarily close the borders. BTW 5000 people are not many, for example, Germany (an area similar to the state of Arizona) has accepted 1 million migrants or Italy (an area like California) has received 600,000 migrants. But now both countries are trying to deport them all back.

[Bbond]

About 5,000 migrants, mostly Hondurans in a caravan, is leaving Mexicocity, decidign to head North to Tijuana 1,700 miles to the North West. The caravan must prefer La Zona Norte over all other Mexico's locations.
It's odd the Mexico's government would let a group of thousands illegal immigrants cruising in their territory, even offering them shelter, food and rides, like Mexico does not have economic and crime problems of her own:
http://enewspaper.latimes.com/deskto...c-236bf740270e

From today's Laredo newspaper, "The government of Queretaro said via Twitter that 6,531 migrants had moved through the state between Friday and Saturday. It said that 5,771 of those were departing Sunday morning after staying in three shelters it had prepared, the largest of which was a soccer stadium in the state capital. Those numbers appeared even higher than counts made by officials when the group was in Mexico City for several days, raising the possibility that other migrants have caught up to the main caravan. "

[Captain Solo]

About 5,000 migrants, mostly Hondurans in a caravan, is leaving Mexicocity, decidign to head North to Tijuana 1,700 miles to the North West. The caravan must prefer La Zona Norte over all other Mexico's locations.

It's odd the Mexico's government would let a group of thousands illegal immigrants cruising in their territory, even offering them shelter, food and rides, like Mexico does not have economic and crime problems of her own:

http://enewspaper.latimes.com/deskto...c-236bf740270e

[Captain Solo]

So far for first 10 months in 2018 Rosarito had 840 murders per milion population, the highest murder rate in the world with only about 10% of the cases prosecuted. On Sept 17,2018, 3 Mexican Americans shot up, killed 2 guys and injured 3 others in Love bar in Rosarito with a AR-15 and a 9 mm Beretta registered to the Sec of Defense, so these guys may be in or related to the US military. Damn. Latinos are hot-headed and violent.

Nueva Generacióand Cartel seemed to have taken control of the Tijauna drug territory with murders of dealers from the Tijuana and jalisco cartels. Baja California Director of Public Security blames the murders on drug cartels' street dealers and domestic violence, emphasizing that no tourists were murdered.

http://www.borderlandbeat.com/2018/1...playas-de.html#more.

Violence Continues to Rise in Playas de Rosarito, BC.

Translated by Yaqui for Borderland Beat from: Zeta.

By: Inés Garcia Ramos.

Not only are the murders of the priest Arturo Orta and the former coach of Xolas, Mar Ibarra, in Rosarito; Athletes, mothers and collateral victims have also been killed. With a rate of 84 homicides per 100,000 inhabitants in the municipality, only 1 in 9 alleged perpetrators has been arrested.

From January 1 to October 31,2018: 92 people have been murdered in Playas de Rosarito. Of these homicides, 18 in October. Although the number may seem small compared to the more than 2,000 homicides registered so far this year in Tijuana, in reality this places Rosarito with a rate of 84 homicides per 100,000 inhabitants.

Since the arrival of PAN mayor Mirna Rincóand Vargas, the municipality has seen an increase in this crime. While in previous years, as in 2015 and 2016,52 and 88 victims had been counted, respectively, in 2017 the figure reached 121 people killed in 111 different events.

Of 111 investigative folders, the Attorney General of the State (PGJE) reported that only 13 cases have been prosecuted, that is, only in 11.74 percent of the cases, an alleged perpetrator was identified who is in prison and under criminal process.

The LOVE Bar allows Armed People to Enter: Owner Jesús González Lomelí Supported Mayoral Candidate Mirna Rincóand in Political Campaign. Closed and Fined 40,000 Pesos for the incident on Sept 17,2018.

Emmanuel López Lozano, who had been a baseball player since he was 12 years old, had already won children's championships. At 16 he became the state batting champion and became part of the Toros de Tijuana rookies team.

At 22, he was also a construction employee in California. On Saturday, September 15,2018, he was on the other side of the border, where he would watch the boxing match between "Canelo" and Golovkin at the LOVE bar in Playas de Rosarito with his friends.

The scene outside the LOVE Bar where 400 people were watching a Boxing match, Sept 15,2018 where 2 people were killed and at least 3 others wounded.

That night, the building located inside the Pabellóand Rosarito shopping center was packed with more than 400 people. Emmanuel and his friends were on the ground floor when they were made of words with a group of men on the top floor, who after a few minutes of shouting, started shooting down.

Around 9:30 at night, authorities received the report of detonations of firearms in the building, they were also informed of wounded and dead. Emmanuel lost his life in the place. Brenda Verónica Varela Navarrete, 31, who was at a table next to Emmanuel and her friends, also received several shots and despite being transferred to a hospital in the city, she died as a result of the injuries. Three more men were injured.

Photo: Internet taken. - Two of the 9 murderers arrested this year.

After responding to the report, Municipal Police officers followed a Toyota Tundra truck with California license plates, in which armed men had fled from the mall. Approximately one kilometer, in the Colonia Ampliacióand Reforma, they were caught and apprehended.

Luis Donaldo Zamora, 25 years old; Jesús Ricardo Mojardíand, 30; and José Luis Mendoza, 39, traveled in the truck with two pistols and a long gun, all used in the shooting of the bar. After his arrest they were presented before a judge, who released one of them.

The reason, as reported by the PGJE, was that Mendoza "was not directly linked to the scene, apparently there was no information or any indication that that person was found at the scene. ".

Although, the PGJE has three months of additional investigation period to provide more evidence to prosecute Luis Donaldo Zamora and Jesús Ricardo Mojardíand for the crimes of qualified homicide and attempted murder, the crime could have occurred because LOVE bar allowed the entry of armed people, even carrying high caliber rifles.

Mayor Mirna Rincóand with Jesús González Lomelí, owner of the LOVE Bar Playas de Rosarito, BC.

At the moment, the attorney general does not rule out that more people have fired that day, due to testimonies collected and videos from the shopping center -the bar does not have video surveillance equipment- in which more armed individuals are seen running out of the place. The three weapons confiscated are an are-15 rifle, a 9-millimeter Beretta pistol registered with the National Defense Secretariat and a short-handled FN Herstal gun.

The property is identified as the property of Jesús González Lomelí, who in February 2018 assumed the position of councilman of the VI City Council of Playas de Rosarito in his capacity as substitute before the departure of the owner councilor Luis Ricardo Cabrales Martínez. González Lomelí is also the owner of other bars in Playas de Rosarito, such as Coco Beach Bar and a seafood restaurant. During the campaign of the current mayor Mirna Rincóand Vargas, the alternate councilor of the PAN supported her in various public events.

Feminicides:

Of the 92 homicides registered in Playas de Rosarito, ten cases have been prosecuted (some with several victims) with detainees in prison and in criminal proceedings. In addition, the PGJE has completed 11 arrest warrants and the Judicial Branch has granted 15 pending orders.

One of the detainees is Diego Gracia Morales, 18, who on September 28 murdered his mother, Dolores Herlinda Gracia Morales, at the family home in Colonia Ampliacióand Plan Libertad. The young man, who after the facts had fled to Ciudad Obregóand, Sonora, was found five days later in that city by elements of the Ministerial Police and transferred to Rosarito, where a judge linked him to trial for the crime of feminicide. According to witness statements, the young man used drugs and when his mother asked him to enter a rehabilitation center, he stabbed her to death.

It is not the only case. Relatives of Edith Fernández Naranjo, a 24-year-old girl found dead on Friday, October 12, have requested the support of the authorities and the citizenry for a week to find Ricardo Hernández Gámez, the victim's partner, the main suspect of the homicide. The body of the girl was located in Palma Real in Tijuana, very close to the limits with Playas de Rosarito; authorities suspect that the homicide was committed in the house that the couple shared with their children in the Constitucióand neighborhood in Playas de Rosarito.

Edith's body, which presented cutting wounds, was wrapped in a blanket and thrown into the street, two aspects that would allow the authorities to catalog this crime as a Feminicide. Relatives of the victim report that the couple's relationship was quite conflict and even the young woman had been beaten by her husband, but weeks ago, Edith Carolina had decided to give Ricardo one more chance, so she returned to live with him together to his two small children.

According to information that the family contributed to the PGJE, Ricardo himself confessed to having murdered his wife after an argument in which Edith had taken a pair of scissors and he snatched them to stab her. However, this was referred to them by the family of the suspect, who has not been located since then.

That same weekend another woman was killed by her former partner, who after shooting him in the head, committed suicide by his side on the beach of Primo Tapia. On Saturday, October 13, a call to 911 alerted of the plight of a woman, minutes later another call reported the theft of a taxi. Actually, a day earlier, Delia Ortega Rodríguez had called 911 to report that her former partner, Óscar David Gastélum Quiroz, was out of his house, circling in his taxi, but when the agents approached, they reported not having located to the individual.

On Saturday morning, while Delia was at home, Óscar David arrived and was armed, forced her to get into the taxi she was driving, the minors who witnessed the forced act reported the events to the authorities. When the police began the search, Delia communicated by phone with her daughter to ask them to stop searching, under threats from her ex-partner, the police suspect, it was the last time her family could hear her.

Shortly after, at 12:45 pm, police found the two bodies dead at the height of Kilometer 56 of the free highway Tijuana-Ensenada, near Primo Tapia.

The PGJE determined that Óscar David Gastélum Quiroz shot Delia in the head and placed her at his side as if she were hugging him, and then shooting her in the temple. In his hand, the 38-caliber revolver with which the man committed the crime was located.

Homicides Linked to Narcomenudeo:

Although the state attorney general's office reported that each homicide has different characteristics that prevent them from forming a concrete profile on most of these crimes, the director of Public Security, Adrián Hernández Pérez, observes otherwise in the streets. He admits that in some cases it can be fights, collateral victims or femicides, "there are many drug dealers who are fighting their streets, they are not high-level criminals. Most homicides are on the streets. ".

The lieutenant attributes it to the escalation in homicides. It also refers that they have detected the murder of relatives of narcomenudistas. "They are direct attacks on people, there are no coincidences, there are no tourists killed," he adds. When talking about the cells behind these crimes, Hernández Pérez details that organizations such as the Tijuana Nueva Generacióand Cartel, the Jalisco Nueva Generacion Cartel or the Sinaloa Cartel have a presence in Rosarito, but that some lower-ranking members sell drugs in the streets of the city.

Borderland Beat Reporter Yaqui Posted at 4:53 PM.

[StRobert]

You should put "journalist" in quotes. The Rebel is a far-right political rag.

Some recent headlines:
Remembrance Day: The liberal establishment pretends to care about our military one day a year.
"I wish I were kidding": Trudeau's Liberals blame Trump for anti-Semitism in Canada.
Gun control wouldn't prevent Jacksonville shooting.
Michael Cohen has no information on Trump-Russia collusion.
Don McGahn's testimony "completely exonerated" Trump.
FACT-CHECK: Young people DO want to become teachers but union won't let them.

Here's what Wikipedia says about The Rebel Media.

So, yeah, not going to believe what this bullshit "news outlet" prints.

Ooops! I admit that I did not know anything about the Rebel media. I had the feeling that if a guy is a Canadian the information must be real.

[KC Questor]

Journalist from Canada.

You should put "journalist" in quotes. The Rebel is a far-right political rag.

Some recent headlines:
Remembrance Day: The liberal establishment pretends to care about our military one day a year.
"I wish I were kidding": Trudeau's Liberals blame Trump for anti-Semitism in Canada.
Gun control wouldn't prevent Jacksonville shooting.
Michael Cohen has no information on Trump-Russia collusion.
Don McGahn's testimony "completely exonerated" Trump.
FACT-CHECK: Young people DO want to become teachers but union won't let them.

Here's what Wikipedia says about The Rebel Media.

The Rebel Media (officially The Rebel News Network Ltd., stylized as THEREBEL.media, and shortened to The Rebel) is a Canadian far-right online political and social commentary media website. It was founded in February 2015 by former Sun News Network personalities Ezra Levant and Brian Lilley. It has been described as a "global platform" for the anti-Muslim ideology, also known as counter-jihad.

Former Sun News reporter Faith Goldy later joined the outlet. Gavin McInnes, founder of the far-right men's organization Proud Boys, was also a contributor. Lilley, Goldy, and McInnes have all since left the project.

Many of The Rebel's contributors announced their departure or were fired in the second half of August 2017, following Goldy's prominent coverage of the 2017 Unite the Right rally in Charlottesville, Virginia, and her interview with The Daily Stormer.

The Rebel Media broadcasts its content on the Rebel Media website and its YouTube channel, which previously peaked on August 16, 2017, at 873,800 subscribers, however with the August departures, it had fallen to a minimum of 842,200 as of August 31. In SeptemberOctober 2017 the channel resumed its growth. On August 15, 2018, it had over one million subscribers.

The Rebel Media has been described as part of the alt-right movement, although it rejected the term after the Charlottesville rally.

So, yeah, not going to believe what this bullshit "news outlet" prints.

[StRobert]

Migrants caravan update. They are tired in Mexico City, and they want buses to the US border. It looks like they want to get to the border crossing in McAllen Texas because it is closest (600 miles) IMO Tijuana is too far away link https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...options-route- US-border. Html? Ito = social-facebook.

Journalist from Canada, David Menzies reports and films the caravan during the March of caravan through Mexico link https://www.therebel.media/caravan-reports.

[Asting]

Yes If you come often the 6 month pass is the way to go.

And in most cases the 6 month pass turns into an 8 or 9 month pass. Because if anyone bothers to check your pass and sees the 180 days that's all they look for.

Math is hard for some of them and they usually can't figure out that it is expired.

Yep exactly, and you can walk through Mexican line. No need to wait in line!