Crime, Safety, and the Police

[Hargow20]

With all the recent muggings taking place I only take what I need with me to Tijuana. I only take passport and cash and keys. It's really a big hassle having to replace your ID and credit cards if you get robbed. This is something that I should have started doing a long time ago.

[Hargow20]

Recent reports indicate there has been quite a few muggings by Nino's Hero's and Calle Primera st. The key is always look behind you especially where is not other people around.

[HorseTrader]

Today I heard numerous rumors regarding the shooting at Tropical. Only 1 rumor was believable, it came from 2 Hong Kong girls. Their story is that the shooter was in a private room with one of the girls. Things were not going well and the manager came to calm things down. The manager was shot. A short time later the police killed the shooter. The manager was taken to the hospital, but I heard nothing regarding how he is doing.

I'd be interested if anyone could get some good, reliable information on this event. I was too close to this shooting for comfort.

[Captain Solo]

Same thing happened in HK about 4 years back.

A guy was abusive to the girls in HK. Security manager, a guy in his 30's, ejected him. He claimed to be a big shot in city hall and threatened to come back with a gun.

About 2 AM he came back asking for the security manager. When the guy showed up at the back door, he shot him dead right at the door. He ran away but policias arrested him a few hours later. Not even sure he worked at City Hall. Don't know what happened to him, most likely he got life for murder. There is not death penalty in Mexico.

It's stupid to murder people just because of a slight, but there seems to be a lot more stupid, hot-headed, violent guys like that in Mexico than in other countries.

[Baxter Slade]

Preliminary reports are saying it was Vasquez who was shot. While I regognize many faces in the Zona Norte. I know few people by name, and Vasquez was one of them. Truly a good guy. I can only hope the rumors are not true.

[Jackie888]

Looks like another shooting, this one at my new favorite bar. Tropical.

Here is what I know: At about 7:30 tonight (Thursday) I took my new Tropical favorite upstairs at Rizo de Oro. Had a great time, showered, then just cuddled and caressed on the bed for the longest time. At about 8:30 the hallway got very noisy with many people talking. The knock didn't come until after 9:00, about 1. 5 hours into our 1 hour session. Got dressed and walked out to find dozens of girls wearing their Tropical outfits milling about the Rizo do Oro hallways and stairwells. Walked down the stairs and found the road barricaded, with extra isolation from Ninos Heros to a bit east of Tropical. Many police in the area.

Here is what I was told: First, at the bottom of the Rizo de Oro stairs a man told there was a shooting at Tropical. I looked down the street and found the highest concentration of police right there. About 20 minutes later I asked the doorman at Hong Kong if limo service was available, he told me that the limo would not be allowed to move until the police removed the barricade. The barricade was there because there was a shooting at Tropical but he didn't know if it was inside or outside..

Oh fuck! The manager of Tropicals is a decent guy. I have seen him throwing his weight around only once over the years. And that was the time he was protecting a girl from some drunk trying to get into the changing room. I remembered one time he insisted that I sit and enjoy the music and chill without having to buy drinks.

[HorseTrader]

Looks like another shooting, this one at my new favorite bar. Tropical.

Here is what I know: At about 7:30 tonight (Thursday) I took my new Tropical favorite upstairs at Rizo de Oro. Had a great time, showered, then just cuddled and caressed on the bed for the longest time. At about 8:30 the hallway got very noisy with many people talking. The knock didn't come until after 9:00, about 1. 5 hours into our 1 hour session. Got dressed and walked out to find dozens of girls wearing their Tropical outfits milling about the Rizo do Oro hallways and stairwells. Walked down the stairs and found the road barricaded, with extra isolation from Ninos Heros to a bit east of Tropical. Many police in the area.

Here is what I was told: First, at the bottom of the Rizo de Oro stairs a man told there was a shooting at Tropical. I looked down the street and found the highest concentration of police right there. About 20 minutes later I asked the doorman at Hong Kong if limo service was available, he told me that the limo would not be allowed to move until the police removed the barricade. The barricade was there because there was a shooting at Tropical but he didn't know if it was inside or outside. I took a cab to the border, according to the driver a customer came into Tropical and was trying to get a lady to go upstairs. The lady refused so the manager came to referee the situation. Then, the manager got shot.

I have no idea how much of what I was told is actually true. All the stories fit together nicely, but that doesn't mean they are true. If the cabbie actually told me the accurate story, it's quite impressive how quickly news travels in Tijuana. I think I was in the cab less than 90 minutes after the Tropical girls moved from the bar to the hotel.

Very sad that this stuff happens so frequently.

[Member #4450]

The yellow cabbies are assholes and thieves. Hope Uber puts them out of business.

My experience is different. I never had any problem with the yellow taxis
Just make sure you make the deal before getting in. I used to take the white Taxi Libres but I found some of those libres pictured in the news with their windshield riddled with bullets so I don't feel comfortable with the drivers anymore.
The Libre are cheaper about a buck or two no worth it to me.

[Captain Solo]

A few years back, Yellow cabbies leased some of the best and most expensive pick up and drop off sites in Tijuana, like right South of the border's metal gates and Cohuila in front of Adelita. They thought they had the monopoly, so they were acting like assholes. At one time dozens of them had demonstration against policias, with their cars blocking Coahuila for half an hour before policias arrived with their guns and night sticks.

After 2008 when there were fewer tourists crossing border, They improvised by offering shared taxi from border to Centro for 10 pesos, same as the bus fare without walking further and waiting for the bus. They would squeeze in 5 big fat Mexicans into their cab. Sometimes I would be sitting in the back between 2 MILFs or young sexy girls, feeling horny smelling their hot, sweaty, fragrant crotches and armpits. Hehe. No doubt the women also felt sexy with all that contact and bumping in the tight cabs. I encourage the bros to immerse in local lifestyles as much as they can.

A lot of Yellow cabbies would take my $3 fare to Coahuila, but a few were very rough and would start swearing when I refused to give them tips, which I swore back, calling them cabrone (asshole), pendejo (jerks) ect giving them fingers. But they are not all bad, and can also be good. My wingman was going through a divorce. After crossing back to the US, he found out he had left his new iPhone, costed him about $600 then, and car keys in a yellow cab at 2 AM a freezing winter night. We crossed back into Mexico, flagged down a yellow cab and explained the problem. He drove us back to the pick up center and talked to his captain. They got on the radio and within 10 minutes found the drivers with the iPhone. So my wingman tipped the Captain $5 and the driver $10 for driving back.

The taxi Libres can also be assholes. The metered fares between the border and Coahuila was only about 30 pesos. He agreed to $3 and I gave him $3 which was about 40 pesos, but he wanted a tip, and when I refused, he got angry and insisted that he was driving back to the border. When we passed the Arc, I called out to the police for help and kidnapping. The stupid jerk was so scared, he stopped the cab and dropped me off on the street. Hehe.

I encourage the bros to immerse in the local lifestyles as much as they could. Just remember most Mexicans live very hard life in poverty and oppression from both criminals and their government. So they may act harshly, considering. Just stay away from drug dealing crowd and you won't be harmed, just played with. During the worst years in 2005, I had 2 policias pointing the automatic weapons at me late at night to extort beer money, but I did not give them any, and they let me go with their laughs.

When the bros can defuse conflicts with locals without violence, eat their good food, screw their sweet young chicas to their heart content, feel relaxed and enjoying the stimulation from the environment, and colorful, fun interactions with locals, perhaps making some money or at least not losing all their assets in the local market, then they would have some training to take over the job for Secretary Clinton. Just imagine what she has to do everyday in her job, working with a bunch of stupid, brutal, murderous, greedy dictator assholes who who [CodeWord123], rob, steal and pillage their peoples.

Many Yellow cabbies have now repainted their cabs white. So unless it is clearly marked Taxi Libre, it is not a white cab. The yellow cabbies are assholes and thieves. Hope Uber puts them out of business.

[Jackie888]

From what I understand the yellow cabs don't have meters and you are supposed to negotiate the price before you even get in (they are part of a corrupt union). The white Taxi's (red or green stripe) have meters and are supposed to take only pesos, so expect change to be pesos but you could get a bad exchange rate (10 P-1 $ instead of 20-1). They are newer Nissan Sentra's and were supposed to shake up the corrupt yellow union taxi's. I believe those are the ones with the official Taxi sticker on the windshield (passenger side). Rate should be no more than $5 USD (includes tip) for yellow and $3 for Taxi libre. The bad part is there is a line for them on the street when going to HK. When leaving there should be one on the street that you can walk up to. I'm not sure if you can tell the Taxi caller that you only want Taxi Libre. There's supposed to be a "Welo Taxi" app and they are on face book.

Many Yellow cabbies have now repainted their cabs white. So unless it is clearly marked Taxi Libre, it is not a white cab. The yellow cabbies are assholes and thieves. Hope Uber puts them out of business.

[Squid1234]

From what I understand the yellow cabs don't have meters and you are supposed to negotiate the price before you even get in (they are part of a corrupt union). The white Taxi's (red or green stripe) have meters and are supposed to take only pesos, so expect change to be pesos but you could get a bad exchange rate (10 P-1 $ instead of 20-1). They are newer Nissan Sentra's and were supposed to shake up the corrupt yellow union taxi's. I believe those are the ones with the official Taxi sticker on the windshield (passenger side). Rate should be no more than $5 USD (includes tip) for yellow and $3 for Taxi libre. The bad part is there is a line for them on the street when going to HK. When leaving there should be one on the street that you can walk up to. I'm not sure if you can tell the Taxi caller that you only want Taxi Libre. There's supposed to be a "Welo Taxi" app and they are on face book.

[LifeIsABeach]

Terrible you cannot reliable on a taxi. I do not recommend someone walking to PedWest early hours of the morning. I have seen some strange characters on that route and bridge during the day, let alone at 4. 30 am. Over the last 15 years, I have stayed mostly at hotels off Revolution and walk to ZN and Visa Versa. Only time I have been shaken down by the Policia was once many years ago about 5. 00 AM in the morning walking back to the hotel. Since then, I have avoided walking around at those hours in the morning. Maybe Uber is the answer if the trust in Taxis is no longer there. My Dentista sent a Uber driver over the weekend for me and it was on time and cheaper.

[ScatManDoo]

Maybe mongers should consider grabbing a taxi on Revolucion and not in The ZN.

I was coming into Tijuana last year with the. A. On his express runs. He would park his car on the United States side while his monger passengers crossed on foot (only the had his scooter to use for border crossing). Us pedestrians on the express runs had a pattern of hitting the Caliente upon entering Mexico, then sometimes catching a 5-pesos Yellow & White bus near where people lined up for the Taxi Economos. This bus took us to the corner of 1st & Constitution (a designated stop at Bar Taurino). I suppose that big yellow & white bus probably also goes in the opposite direction from LZ to the border area.

The Tijuana Policia wouldn't be interested, nor find much profit, in shaking down Tijuana bus riders.

[Baxter Slade]

Maybe mongers should consider grabbing a taxi on Revolucion and not in The ZN.

But then you have to walk through the danger zone to get from the zona to Rev.

I kind of like Hargrows plan, safety in numbers. I'm more worried about losing my smart phone in a chokehold robbery. As far as the police hide the big bills and it wouldn't be that bad to lose some chump change.

Since I need my phone for business I wonder if its posible to have calls forwarded to my mexican burner phone.

[Artisttyp]

Maybe mongers should consider grabbing a taxi on Revolucion and not in The ZN.