Crime, Safety, and the Police

[CoolBeanz]

The armed police are just a show for the new mongers after some violence has happened. It's nothing more than a show.

Any new violence down there or concerns? I am heading down in 2 weeks.

[NoMarriage]

There were a lot of armed police on the street HK and the other clubs were yesterday.

I remember when I applied for the passport card, I was told it was good for border the countries Canada and Mexico by walking or driving only but Puerto Rico it could be used by ship or plane.

The armed police are just a show for the new mongers after some violence has happened. It's nothing more than a show.

[Squid1234]

There were a lot of armed police on the street HK and the other clubs were yesterday.

I remember when I applied for the passport card, I was told it was good for border the countries Canada and Mexico by walking or driving only but Puerto Rico it could be used by ship or plane.

[Member #2041]

I use my passport card when I fly to other cities in Mexico.

But are you flying from Mexico to a USA City? My understanding is, the passport card is not valid for international entry to the USA Even from Mexico or Canada, nor for an international air departure from within the USA But you can use it as a valid USA ID between cities WITHIN Mexico.

But, you could drive/walk/take a bus from the U.S. into TJ, and then take a flight from TJ to other destinations in MX, such as Cabo, or Cancun. And then when returning, you need to fly back to TJ, and then do a land crossing back into the US.

[Captain Solo]

NBC San Diego reported snipers fired first. 3 turista policias responded to the gun shots got shot themselves.

This makes more sense. The snipers did target someone on Coahuila and fired first.

La Zona now is an exotic battle zone, crawling with gangsters toting sniper rifles, and hot, sexy chicas in short, short skirts showing off their damp, steamy crotches, hanging loose on sidewalks.

http://www.nbcsandiego.com/news/loca...394731641.html

Two men, including a United States citizen, were arrested after a shooting in Tijuana that killed one officer.

Authorities say that the weapons used in the attack were brought into Mexico from the USA.

Two officers responded to reports of shots fire at the corner of de Coahuila and Constitucion in Zona Norte on Saturday morning, and were met with gunfire from a vehicle.

One officer was killed in the shooting and two others suffered bullet wounds to the upper torso. The condition of the two injured officers is unknown.

The two suspects fled the scene but were arrested shortly after and found in possession of two firearms.

Source: http://www.nbcsandiego.com/news/loca...394731641.html#ixzz4 Lg88 TlZK.

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[Captain Solo]

These Mexican gangsters may not be educated with the classics, casually discussing Homer, Plato and Shakespeare while on top, screwing their fat GF's, but they cannot be so stupid and irrational to drive around Coahuila, well-know to be heavily patrolled by many layers of cops and Army, with loaded assault rifles.

To do that much work and take that much risk, they had to have a very important assignment.

Looks like US gang sent a guy down to partner up with a local Mexican to ambush and shoot some guys on Coahuila. It could be easier to go after the target on foot with hand guns, but they must have expected heavy resistance and difficult get away, so they came in a car with assault rifles, lots of ammos, sniper scopes and all.

[Monkey7212]

Much appreciated. Still planning to head out to Tijuana in the next few days for a short trip. Lightning can't strike twice in the same location on consecutive weekends, can it?

My guess is that it can. But I'll probably still risk it.

[WombatEd2]

Every bit of speculation I've seen so far, about the shooting's back-story, is based upon the same assumption, that there is a rational explanation.

I'm probably wrong, but I'm wondering what if there isn't one.

[Captain Solo]

Correction:

1 US and 1 Mexico's citizen, both 24, shot and killed 1 Turista policia, wounding 2 other, with AR-15 assault rifles with ammo drums and sniper scopes at corner Coahuila and Nino Heroes in front of Hong Kong Club and Tropical bar. Both were arrested after gun fight by Policia Federale.

If they were just smuggling the weapons, they would have wrapped up and concealed them. In this case they had their weapons loaded, out in the open, shot and killed the cops from their car. So they were planning to kill someone in that area, and brought along high-power assault rifles with large amount of ammunition, expecting heavy returning fire.

This incident looked like 2 Mexican Americans, older, in their 40's, brought down 2 brand-new AR-15's assault rifles with ammo drums and sniper scopes, to sell to cartel guys, who would use those heavy weapons and have the money to pay for them. This is new development as Tijuana has been mostly hand guns action all along. Some groups wanted heavy weapons to start a war on a lot of people.

[Captain Solo]

This incident looked like 2 Mexican Americans, older, in their 40's, brought down 2 brand-new AR-15's assault rifles with ammo drums and sniper scopes, to sell to cartel guys, who would use those heavy weapons and have the money to pay for them. This is new development as Tijuana has been mostly hand guns action all along. Some groups wanted heavy weapons to start a war on a lot of people.

Lucky a turista policia stopped them for some reasons, more likely for a mordida, than anything to do with public security. The 2 gun runners had loaded weapons in the car. They could probably outrun the cop, but decided to start shooting. The pictures showed Policia Federale hand cuffed them next to their brand new rifles. It's a very difficult job subduing 2 guys with assault rifles firing at them, but Mexican Policia did a very good job arresting them both alive, without incurring lots of collateral damages.

Based on the press reports and pictures, we would be stupid to underestimate how good these Mexican cops are. If left to LA PD, SB PD or SD PD, they would call in heavily-armed SWAT teams, massive artillery and air power supports, decimate a few neighborhoods, killing a few dozens innocent women and children, then declare a complete victory, patting themselves in the backs, pinning new shiny medals on their own bloated stomachs.

This is serious news but life will go on. If new violence and retaliation will come, it would take the parties a few months to plan and execute.

[HorseTrader]

Being from the east coast my local news broadcasts and newspapers don't discuss what happens ZN. I appreciate seeing the violence reports in this forum. These recent reports were enough for me to postpone my early October visit. I'll wait a coupe extra weeks before I reschedule, just want to see how things progress.

Thanks.

[Captain Solo]

4 AM Saturday morning, a few hours after I drove home past that intersection, 2 dumb jerks returned to Tijuana after buying 2 AR-15 type assault rifles with large drum magazines and sniper scopes from San Diego. They must be US citizens. They were stupid enough to drive the guns down Coahuila; which is reputedly to most heavily policed street in Tjuana, if not the entire Mexico.

A turista cop wanted to stop them, probably for a mordida. They did not stop, shot him dead, wounding 2 others. Policia Federale gave chase, arrested both of them. One was shot in the stomach; the other one was fine. They are very lucky being alive, even though they would probably spend the rest of their lives in prison, may be die of unnatural causes. It's amazing Mexico's policias managed to confront and arrest 2 guys shooting at them with their assault rifles, without just quickly killing them in a hail of bullets.

If it had happened in the US, both would have been shot dead with hundreds bullet holes; a number of innocent bystanders would also have been shot up by accident. Hell, unarmed guys in Charlotte and Tulsa were shot full of holes even with their hands up.

At least shootings and killings in Tijuana seem to be carefully targeted, not random.

http://www.borderlandbeat.com/2016/0...ona-norte.html

[CoolBeanz]

First time got searched and magically lost 2 Viagra pills and 40 dollars.

They searched me randomly when I was Walking behind HK.

Took my belongings and then when they gave it back magically missing.

Was a bit pissed and told my taxi driver on the way back, he told me it was nothing new and happens to Mexicans as well (not limited to only tourist). He told me he has been stopped in his car for no reason 4 times in the past and the cops always want 100-200 peso each time to let him go.

Just a warning, don't walk around the streets when the cops are patrolling. They are not looking out drugs or your safety, they looking to make some $$ Haha.

Surprised though I never get searched in the morning, only at night, I am guessing the bad cops come out at night?

[TomJackin]

I was under the impression that the card was valid only for ground transportation. Not valid for air travel. I am not sure about cruise travel?

I use my passport card when I fly to other cities in Mexico.

[GolfSexRroll]

The passport card IS a passport. It is valid for ALL border crossings between the USA and Mexico and Canada, as well as seaport entry, I. E. Cruise ships, between the same countries. It is treated exactly the same way a passport book is treated except it can't be stamped. It's also not good anywhere BUT Canada and Mexico.

I was under the impression that the card was valid only for ground transportation. Not valid for air travel. I am not sure about cruise travel?