Crime, Safety, and the Police

[Phordphan]

Your plan of going to a hotel, bunkering in for fun, then heading back home is a safe bet. Yet, people regularly get dragged out of hotels in TJ, or take mysterious falls from upper levels.

Speaking of delusions, do you have any remotely recent links to news articles discussing a tourist getting dragged out of his hotel room? If it's a regular occurrence there should be plenty.

If guys are so scared of Tijuana that their idea of staying safe is to check into a hotel room and not leave for three days, they may as well stay home.

[Hargow20]

I feel safe in Tijuana & the Zona these days. The Zona has actually gotten much safer in the past 5-10 years. Before there was bandito's that would hang out the Zona that would mug people. These guys would rob people in broad daylight. I still keep my guard up and always took to see who is behind me in Tijuana however. The shooting's in the Zona is a very random occurrence.

It's a BS myth that you are safer in a group; depends on who the group consists of and what the group is doing.

I feel safer going to Tijuana alone, but lately have been going in a group for convenience and fun factor. But I don't feel any safer. If your sidekicks are chubby disabled fellows lacking street smarts, well that decreases your survival chances.

What ends up happening with a group is it feels safer so it takes more risks; just note that female who went to Matamorros for cosmetic surgery and brought along three big-tough black guys for percieved safety. They end up driving around Matamorros for sightseeing instead of going straight to the doctor's office and back, next thing you know they are front page news. And how about those 43 students from Ayotzinapa who decided to hijack some buses for a trip to Mexico City but were never heard from again--I'm sure they felt safety in numbers..

[TjBrazil]

Bottom line is you never know when you will go. Other examples: this kid I knew in the 80's lost both parents in a plane crash. Had a young healthy co worker drop dead in her sleep from a brain aneurysm. Keith richards tho is still alive. Enjoy life, blow most of your money because you can't take it with you. Quit arguing so much if you should tip 2 dollars at a terma in Brazil. It means nothing. Don't send money to women across the world ever. Last but not least, never go to Tijuana for plastic surgery. They got their degree from a Apple Jack box.

[Frogg]

I ride solo. If you're in a group, naturally it's much safer.

It's a BS myth that you are safer in a group; depends on who the group consists of and what the group is doing.

I feel safer going to Tijuana alone, but lately have been going in a group for convenience and fun factor. But I don't feel any safer. If your sidekicks are chubby disabled fellows lacking street smarts, well that decreases your survival chances.

What ends up happening with a group is it feels safer so it takes more risks; just note that female who went to Matamorros for cosmetic surgery and brought along three big-tough black guys for percieved safety. They end up driving around Matamorros for sightseeing instead of going straight to the doctor's office and back, next thing you know they are front page news. And how about those 43 students from Ayotzinapa who decided to hijack some buses for a trip to Mexico City but were never heard from again--I'm sure they felt safety in numbers.

Your plan of going to a hotel, bunkering in for fun, then heading back home is a safe bet. Yet, people regularly get dragged out of hotels in TJ, or take mysterious falls from upper levels.

But also, I don't feel safe driving on the 405 fw or any major street in SoCal. Let's face it, being alive is dangerous. Enjoy the ride while it lasts.

[Captain Solo]

TheMan.

With one of the highest murder rate and groups of heavily armed Guardia Nacional patrolling La Zona, Couple months back one of the cartels burned buses, built road blocks, ordered all businesses close and declare a curfew. Everything in Tijuana shut down for a couple days, including all putas bars. Tijuana actually feels like a war zone.

We can still have sexy fun in Tijuana but have to monitor intels and stay alert to avoid potential cartels violence. Booths near HK's front door have better ventilation but are likely to be target for cartels' drive by shooting. They are not likely drive by the back door as the alley are narrow and congested most of the time, so it's probably safer. Sit by the lesbian show, park your face in foamy crotches, suck on the clits, lick the labia while keeping your ears open for any sign of shooting. Wait for the bullets to stop flying then exit the building quickly in case it's torched.

Stay safe, have fun.

[Captain Solo]

Risks are everywhere. Your plane may crash; you may get runover on the streets of US. We just have to weigh the balance between risks and rewards.

A few of my wingmen are way too horny and have to pop girls BB every weekend. A few young, single guys are lonely, go to HK couple times every week, just hang out, drink red bulls, ogle hot girls, not having to have sex. HK fills the sexual, emotional, social needs for guys, some even says spiritual too hehe. You can still have a fun time hanging out with your friends all night pretty cheap if you don't throw money around like narcos jefes.

Besides high operating costs with lots of employees, workers, security, management ect HK is also under pressure to pay lots of morditas to a lot of people, cartels and government officials, to stay in business. They deliver a nice, clean, fun, entertaining, sexy venue with the hottest young women in Mexico for fairly low costs. You cannot find such a large selection of hot girls for the same prices anywhere in Mexico, or even the rest of the world. For the bros living in South West US, there are no other towns to have such sexy fun without breaking the bank.

But all the violence in Tijuana by the cartels and corruption at all levels of government are a big turn off. Narco bosses frequently show off their power and money, raining # bills and even coins on the crowd for fun. It's hard to predict when cartels guys will clash inside the club or will shoot up to demand their extortion.

The bros should reduce their frequencies of attendance, blend in with the crowd, spend their money judiciously and monitor intels to secure personal safety while having a little fun.

[CaliGuy33]

I'll be back very soon there. It's a nice close. Only difference is I'll play a lot smarter. My friends and I have a great time out there.

I ride solo. If you're in a group, naturally it's much safer.

I went to Southeast Asia last year and going again in a month. That holds me over when it comes to getting some action.

If I can't make a Asia trip next year, I'll likely go to Tijuana but with a specific game plan:

Cross border, go straight to my hotel in Zona Rio for two-three nights, never leave Zona Rio and just use the agencies for having chicas delivered to my room.

Safest option and also cheaper really than HK and clubs. HK prices are out of control IMO.

[TheMan31]

Between the potential safety risks and increase in prices for everything from hotels to mongering, I'm surprised guys still go to Tijuana. You're better off finding some pros in your home city you can make an ongoing arrangement with that makes financial sense for both parties.

I haven't been back to Tijuana in a year and doubt I'll return anytime soon, unless I get extremely blueballed.

I'll be back very soon there. It's a nice close. Only difference is I'll play a lot smarter. My friends and I have a great time out there.

[CaliGuy33]

https://www.borderlandbeat.com/2023/...ance-that.html

" Meanwhile Aquiles control some sections of some neighborhoods in Tijuana, a city which operates quite differently from Mexicali. Every neighborhood in Tijuana is contested by multiple street gangs. These gangs work under larger cartel organizations, such as CJNG, remnants of the CAF, CDS. Mayo, or CDS. Chapitos. ".

You are right. Multiple cartels have been contesting for controls of each neighborhood. La Zona has to be their juiciest real estate and Hong Kong rolls in lots of money every night. HK has been paying Los Chapitos. Now El Mayo Zambada's CDS and CJNG are trying to move in. There is infighting within CDS. Zambada group recently sent out a video threatened to kill Los Chapitos guys.

Between the potential safety risks and increase in prices for everything from hotels to mongering, I'm surprised guys still go to Tijuana. You're better off finding some pros in your home city you can make an ongoing arrangement with that makes financial sense for both parties.

I haven't been back to Tijuana in a year and doubt I'll return anytime soon, unless I get extremely blueballed.

[Captain Solo]

https://www.borderlandbeat.com/2023/...ance-that.html

" Meanwhile Aquiles control some sections of some neighborhoods in Tijuana, a city which operates quite differently from Mexicali. Every neighborhood in Tijuana is contested by multiple street gangs. These gangs work under larger cartel organizations, such as CJNG, remnants of the CAF, CDS. Mayo, or CDS. Chapitos. ".

You are right. Multiple cartels have been contesting for controls of each neighborhood. La Zona has to be their juiciest real estate and Hong Kong rolls in lots of money every night. HK has been paying Los Chapitos. Now El Mayo Zambada's CDS and CJNG are trying to move in. There is infighting within CDS. Zambada group recently sent out a video threatened to kill Los Chapitos guys.

[Jackie888]

One of the problems with racketeering is that the victim doesn't know which cartel group to pay. The cartel isn't one single group. Cartel is really a generic term we use to describe organized crime, but we should really look at it as the cartel (S). You pay one, and the next day another group tries to kill you because you gave money to its rival group. I suspect that this is what happened to one of the HK owners.

[The Cane]

I met several Colombianas in Adelitas that last year. All were unquestiinably of age, but they were not old by any stretch. Yes, Adelitas had a generally older set of women. But my theory is all of the importation and handing jobs to them vs Mexican girls didn't sit well with everyone.

All the girls pictured are Mexicans by the way. If I want to fuck a Colombiana, then I will go to Colombia. Or Costa Rica or Panama LOL! But in Mexico do as a Mexican does. And fuck Mexican girls (but only the pretty ones)!

[Captain Solo]

SCCB.

The long LA Times' article has some details important to the bros, which can be read only with subscription, had to be posted in full, not just the link. You should not have reposted the whole thing.

My Mexican American friends are well off, told me for at least the last 100 years Mexico always had strong men in big cities' neighborhoods and small towns who rob, rape anyone they want without consequences. Now the cartels are far more coercive and violent, making life far worse for the population.

These friends are tough businessmen but afraid to come back to visit their parents in places like Guadalajara, Monterrey, Michoacan for fear of kidnap, torture and extortion. They know these atrocities first hand, have better understanding of the security risks than the average visitors or mongers.

Mexico has descended into an anarchy and a bloody civil war with war lords, cartels, strong men abusing and controlling the population with extreme violence.

[Sol12]

I had not heard that. I arrived at HK at about 9 PM yesterday. All seemed normal. In my conversations, no one mentioned anything abnormal. Had some drinks with a girl who said she started work at 4 PM. So maybe something happened prior to that?

It was pretty crowded last night for a Wednesday. Not sure if it even maters, but HK seemed to try to step up their "production" on the main stage with curtains, lighting, etc. That's the first time I've seen that. Frankly, I don't care. LOL I don't sit stage side. But for those that do, maybe it increases the experience? I don't know.

Wednesday was supposed to be the Anniversary party and the rest of the week they are advertising a Comic Con party thru Sunday.

[Hargow20]

Part of the problem is that Tijuana is the about the only place you find any good WSW's or light skinned girls at a reasonable price. Much of this is because there have been to many fools that have been blindly giving into the girls prices on the west coast. When many of the girls started working online they charged escort prices. So as a result they started charging these prices on the street.

Some of the SG's have been asking $40-$50 and the quality is mediocre at best. I would be willing to pay $50 or $60 for a BJ from a few of the HK girls. In my mind paying $100 for anything is outlandish. Occasionally I will see Kathy when I want a girl with a really great body. She still charges 500 pesos. The downside is that she does not offer any extra services that I like. This is why I see my usual girl in Tijuana. She is good or better than most of the girls in HK and will do anything to please. I do wish I could find more girls like her at a reasonable price. Before the US girls were a lot of fun when they were still around. In the end the search continues.

"What? You don't like the HK 100% price hike?

Sex used to be about $70 ($60+11 room).

Now it is $140 ($100+4)".