Crime, Safety, and the Police

[Dogers69]

Personally I'd be paranoid about driving into Mexico incase someone plants drugs in my car to retrieve later. Now you have to worry about people hiding in your car when you drive over LOL.

https://www.nbcsandiego.com/news/loc...diego/3140882/

[Captain Solo]

Stop Mexican cartels from selling drugs and fentanyl to your children in elementary schools and get them hooked for life or kill them.

Stop Mexican cartels from addicting, abusing, exploiting, raping, kidnapping, torturing, murdering poor Mexicans and migrants, and soon to do the same crimes to Americans in the US.

Stop Mexican cartels from exporting their beastly, assholes lifestyles into the US with illegal migrants.

AMLO was just grand standing against Biden and Trudeau to impress Mexico's population, but the population is not stupid and not easily impressed. They know they have been living for decades and generations under successive corrupt and stupid governments, who have not been working for the population, but spend all their time and energy working for organized criminals to poison, abuse and oppress the population to line their own pockets. Dishonesty, hypocrisy, corruption, lawlessness, crimes in Latin countries are sick jokes for the last 300 years.

If Mexico won't do it, smart guys at the CIA can hire, train a battalion of policia militaire in Mexico and assist them with technology and intelligence to take care of this problem. Colombia did just that and succeeded in pacifying a country at war against drug lords, cartels and terrorist groups. Mexico is not eradicating cartels since government and all kinds of people in the population profit from the drugs and human trafficking trade into the US.

Here are migrants living in 2,500 hotel rooms in NYC costing NYC $500 per room per night, get drunk and stoned, watch soccer all day, throw away tons of government-paid food everyday:

https://nypost.com/2023/01/10/tons-o...s-wont-eat-it/

[The Cane]

Biden is just a senile old politician. He is a puppet and we know who is behind him actually running US politics, Obama and his cabal. Obama was the only president who never moved back to his home state after his term as president was over. He still lives in Washington DC. Biden is too senile to remember to wipe his ass let alone run the United States.

Eh really? Richard Nixon didn't "move" back to California until he was dead. Until then he was living in New Jersey. And the Clintons never moved back to Arkansas either. They're in New York. Obama initially stayed in DC because he wanted his daughters to be able to finish their schooling there. He currently has a home in Massachusetts (Martha's Vineyard), and I do believe he's building a vacation home in his native Hawaii (it's not Kenya). The rest of it doesn't even deserve a reply.

[ParallaxView]

What's the problem? Its just like the good old days. Go have a good time. The only advice I have is avoid HK and all their bullshit.

Was kinda thinking the same thing when I read the original post. Only thing I'd amend is, for sure hit Hong Kong, as that is where a lot of fun is. At least for me.

[SeaBeeJoe]

Yes I'd imagine that Mexico will be getting money from the US after this visit, why not all Biden knows how to do is give away tax payer money and neglect his own citizen or make life more expensive. Before his trip he talked about giving 3 billion to some Central American countries to help prevent those citizens from coming to the US. That money will just go into the politicians pockets.

Biden is just a senile old politician. He is a puppet and we know who is behind him actually running US politics, Obama and his cabal. Obama was the only president who never moved back to his home state after his term as president was over. He still lives in Washington DC. Biden is too senile to remember to wipe his ass let alone run the United States.

[Baxter Slade]

Well was thinking of making a Tijuana trip soon but things look a bit rough right now. Even if I made it safely across like the many times I did long ago. Hiding money from the polica trying to get a 20 or two is one thing but this is another level and one mistake is all it takes. I miss the early 2000's when there were so many tourists speaking many languages walking all over Tijuana. Easier to blend in but also was more fun.

What's the problem? Its just like the good old days. Go have a good time. The only advice I have is avoid HK and all their bullshit.

[The Cane]

I suspect Mexico has to show some good results in war against the cartels, drugs interdiction and migrants prevention to squeeze concessions from Biden in this coming visits. Cartels' activities have to be disrupted at all levels in all directions. Colombia could do it. So can Mexico.

Captain Solo actually said something positive about Colombia! Well here's the thing. The problem is on both the supply and the demand side of the equation. Like Sol12 said, as long as there's a demand somebody is going to strive to meet it because there's just too much money to be made. The scum bag cartels wouldn't thrive and have anything to be fighting over but for the insatiable demand from the gringo north just on the other side of the border (something that governments to the south are quick to point out). If the cartels are going to be solidly defeated, then we need to lessen the demand as well as cut off the supply. How that's accomplished I don't know, but it has to be a part of the solution. Both the supply and the demand need to be tackled in this struggle for the soul of Mexico. I think that legalizing and regulating the sale and use of pot is a step in the right direction.

[Gilgamesh]

Well was thinking of making a Tijuana trip soon but things look a bit rough right now. Even if I made it safely across like the many times I did long ago. Hiding money from the polica trying to get a 20 or two is one thing but this is another level and one mistake is all it takes. I miss the early 2000's when there were so many tourists speaking many languages walking all over Tijuana. Easier to blend in but also was more fun.

[Captain Solo]

AMLO lectures the US and Canada.

Losers' normal operation procedures: Blame victims for the crimes.

Mexico lets migrants into her territory, Mexico has the legal and moral obligations to take care of them, not the US.

Mexico has to stop supporting and profiting from Cartel's drugs and human trafficking. Countries and peoples of South and Central America are getting poorer and poorer, being lied to and exploited by Mexican cartels, paying $10-20 K per head to be trafficked through Mexico to the US border.

Every country in the world has its own problems. Peoples should expend all their time and energy solving their own country's problems, and not passing them on to others.

With more than 200,000 migrants a month entering the US illegally in 2022, that's 2. 5 million or 250 divisions of potential terrorists and criminals each year. The US should declare war emergency at the Southern border, or we will wake up one morning and found our country already taken over by illegal migrants by force with weapons and organization by Mexican cartels.

Mexican President's 28-Minute Monologue Had Biden, Trudeau Staring at Feet.

Mexico's AMLO dominates summit-ending news conference.

Asked about migration, he discussed malaria, disability, crime.

Lopez Obrador: We Have a Commitment to Protect Migrants.

WATCH: AMLO discusses migration and helping migrants during a news conference that marked the end of a summit between him, Biden and Trudeau. Source: Bloomberg.

ByMax de Haldevang.

January 10,2023 at 6:00 PM PST.

The question was about migration. But Mexican President Andres Manuel Lopez Obrador had a lot to say on just about everything else.

Standing between US President Joe Biden and Canadian Prime Minister Justin Trudeau at a summit-ending news conference in.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/artic...taring-at-feet#xj4 y7 vzkg.

[Jackie888]

Yes I'd imagine that Mexico will be getting money from the US after this visit, why not all Biden knows how to do is give away tax payer money and neglect his own citizen or make life more expensive. Before his trip he talked about giving 3 billion to some Central American countries to help prevent those citizens from coming to the US. That money will just go into the politicians pockets.

In the past the Cartels just kept the violence among themselves but over the years it's had more of an effect on the innocent. The Mexican people I think aren't any different from us that out of sight out of mind. When I lived in Tijuana I never worried about the violence you would see on the news since it wasn't going to happen to me. Now with the Cartels doing more to try and close cities down or control parts of Mexico it might be to late for the citizens to fight back. The big cities I visit in Mexico still just go on as normal the problem with control seems to be in more of the poorer parts of Mexico where the people don't get much support from government and the Cartels use this as an advantage to provide things to make the people believe they are bad. Especially during COVID I remember reading about the wife of El Chapo providing food for the people, evennthis last Christmas I think in Sinaloa the Cartels went around giving out Christmas gifts. AMLO made a statement to not accept gifts from them but they are poor and many people make fools of themselves to get free things.

Well the Cartels have been fighting amount themselves for many years and it's only gotten worse. The point on comparing Mexico with Colombia is interesting but I think the drug trade is much more advanced and profitable now. Also I think Colombia had more support from the people and officials in government and law enforcement that were ready to take back control of their country. This is what I believe needs to happen in Mexico, when living in Mexico I had hope when they elected CalderN but he was no different.

No matter what Mexico does as long as we demand drugs someone will provide them.

Mexico has no race prejudice. But they got poor prejudice. The rich literally treats the poor like slaves.

There's too much wealth inequality in Mexico, so too many people often has to choose between living poor or turning to crime. They say that when wealth inequality is too much a burden, revolution results. Maybe the drug trade is the new revolution.

[Sol12]

I suspect Mexico has to show some good results in war against the cartels, drugs interdiction and migrants prevention to squeeze concessions from Biden in this coming visits.

It's not a good policy to let the cartels peacefully produce and traffic deadly drugs in Mexico and into the US. It will not help anyone but the cartels to prosper, traffic even more drugs and human, buy more guns, bribe more government officials, gain more power, abuse and oppress the population even more. Soon Mexico will be full of drugs-crazed zombies who would steal and kill to feed their addiction.

Cartels' activities have to be disrupted at all levels in all directions. First, let them do their violent power struggles, torturing and murdering among themselves, then let the other cartels move in to do more torture and murders, then arrest all of them an put them in cafes for life.

Colombia could do it. So can Mexico. The existence, livelihood and growth of Mexico and her entire population depend on eradication of the cartels and their drugs, human trafficking.

Yes I'd imagine that Mexico will be getting money from the US after this visit, why not all Biden knows how to do is give away tax payer money and neglect his own citizen or make life more expensive. Before his trip he talked about giving 3 billion to some Central American countries to help prevent those citizens from coming to the US. That money will just go into the politicians pockets.

In the past the Cartels just kept the violence among themselves but over the years it's had more of an effect on the innocent. The Mexican people I think aren't any different from us that out of sight out of mind. When I lived in Tijuana I never worried about the violence you would see on the news since it wasn't going to happen to me. Now with the Cartels doing more to try and close cities down or control parts of Mexico it might be to late for the citizens to fight back. The big cities I visit in Mexico still just go on as normal the problem with control seems to be in more of the poorer parts of Mexico where the people don't get much support from government and the Cartels use this as an advantage to provide things to make the people believe they are bad. Especially during COVID I remember reading about the wife of El Chapo providing food for the people, evennthis last Christmas I think in Sinaloa the Cartels went around giving out Christmas gifts. AMLO made a statement to not accept gifts from them but they are poor and many people make fools of themselves to get free things.

Well the Cartels have been fighting amount themselves for many years and it's only gotten worse. The point on comparing Mexico with Colombia is interesting but I think the drug trade is much more advanced and profitable now. Also I think Colombia had more support from the people and officials in government and law enforcement that were ready to take back control of their country. This is what I believe needs to happen in Mexico, when living in Mexico I had hope when they elected CalderóN but he was no different.

No matter what Mexico does as long as we demand drugs someone will provide them.

[Sol12]

You are right the political upheavals in the US in the last couple years are very disturbing.

However, thousands of instigators, even at the highest levels, are being investigated and will be punished by the rules of laws. You will see some top abusers humiliated and held behind bars regardless how much political power they think they have, completely the opposite of Mexico.

If the US is so bad, why so many Mexican politicians, journalists, activists seek asylum here?

We all know Mexico is not perfect but to think that the US is not corrupt as well is absurd. I wasn't much for being one of those guys that didn't trust our government and was worried about them wanting to control our lives but I would think with what has happened over the last 3 years and the more news that comes out about who they are in bed with as a common sense person you'd have to admit that things are no better here. The only difference is our drug dealers are corporations.

Also if you discuss the problems with the Cartels with many Mexicans they blame the US since we are the ones asking for the drugs and we are usually the ones providing the guns and other weapons.

I think you misunderstood what I was talking about when mentioning the past 3 years. It was in reference to COVID and all the lies and corruption that has been happening which is only now coming to light. I believe what you mentioned was in regards to J6.

The politicians in Mexico are just as corrupt as those in the US and most nations. They are paid off to turn the other way on the wrongs that a certain group is doing or to make it easier for those groups or corporations to harm the people. Many politicians take money from lobbyists that hurt the average citizen and either just leave office to become high paid lobbyists themselves. Harry Truman has a famous quote ""Show me a man that gets rich by being a politician, and I'll show you a crook. "

So the politicians in both Mexico and the US don't directly kill or hurt the citizens but they make policies or fail to enforce laws on those that pay them off. They never go to jail, some companies get caught and might have to pay fines but they just raise prices on their customers and the cycle goes on and on and on.

I'm not sure what specific politicians, activists or journalist you are referring to. If I was to guess I would imagine that those are the ones speaking against the Cartels and look to come here to protect their lives.

[Captain Solo]

I suspect Mexico has to show some good results in war against the cartels, drugs interdiction and migrants prevention to squeeze concessions from Biden in this coming visits.

It's not a good policy to let the cartels peacefully produce and traffic deadly drugs in Mexico and into the US. It will not help anyone but the cartels to prosper, traffic even more drugs and human, buy more guns, bribe more government officials, gain more power, abuse and oppress the population even more. Soon Mexico will be full of drugs-crazed zombies who would steal and kill to feed their addiction.

Cartels' activities have to be disrupted at all levels in all directions. First, let them do their violent power struggles, torturing and murdering among themselves, then let the other cartels move in to do more torture and murders, then arrest all of them an put them in cafes for life.

Colombia could do it. So can Mexico. The existence, livelihood and growth of Mexico and her entire population depend on eradication of the cartels and their drugs, human trafficking.

[Captain Solo]

You are right the political upheavals in the US in the last couple years are very disturbing.

However, thousands of instigators, even at the highest levels, are being investigated and will be punished by the rules of laws. You will see some top abusers humiliated and held behind bars regardless how much political power they think they have, completely the opposite of Mexico.

If the US is so bad, why so many Mexican politicians, journalists, activists seek asylum here?

We all know Mexico is not perfect but to think that the US is not corrupt as well is absurd. I wasn't much for being one of those guys that didn't trust our government and was worried about them wanting to control our lives but I would think with what has happened over the last 3 years and the more news that comes out about who they are in bed with as a common sense person you'd have to admit that things are no better here. The only difference is our drug dealers are corporations.

Also if you discuss the problems with the Cartels with many Mexicans they blame the US since we are the ones asking for the drugs and we are usually the ones providing the guns and other weapons.

[Sol12]

Mexico arrests Ovidio Guzman, son of 'El Chapo,' city engulfed by violence.

The skeptics in Mexico believe this to be a gift to Biden and his visit. The judge has delayed the extradition process and the prison he is at in Mexico City is the same one his father escaped from. Sometimes these arrests do more harm than good as a power struggle develops in the Cartel and it ends up causing more violence. At the same time as the Sinola cartel is having in fighting it will make the Nuevo Jalisco cartel stronger.