Crime, Safety, and the Police

[Jackie888]

Don't worry, it doesn't seem insensitive. These are thoughtful and reasonable questions to ask. Many are questions I've asked of myself.

Angela always texted her mother when she was going to a room, and provided the details for "security". They were not from Tijuana, but her mother was actually a former HK girl. They had an apartment in Zona Norte. Her mother lived with her and Angela supported her. They were more like best friends than a mother-daughter dynamic. She did not text me, we had developed a thing where we talked before she went to work said our goodbyes and I love you's, and we didn't talk until the next morning. I used to stress out when she didn't respond for long periods of time. Back then I wrote it off as paranoia so we just made a rule that we didn't communicate while she was at work. The deal was, if there was a problem her mother would let me know. And there was a problem. This had actually happened once before, but she had just passed out in a clients room..

I am sorry man.

I am lost for words after reading this.

[Dogers69]

Nothing to add, except to say this stuff is almost some made-for-TV movie type shit, wow. Very, very sorry for your loss. Hope they find the killer and that he gets what he deserves!

I am a bit puzzled about them taking you to talk to the guys who checked out around 9 AM. That was several hours after the murder. I assume they'd found her body long before then and knew what room everything happened in so should've known it wasn't those guys.

This is very sad, but this guy shouldn't feel bad about anything. He went way beyond what 99% of us would have. These woman make a fortune at hk and I've been trying to mKe that point for years. Some guys say they come to work and leave worh $50 bucks after 8 hrs. Thats not what I hear from girls who don't even look good that work in hk. So. No girl is gona make her $300 to $500 a day, then sit in her nail salon, or clothing store, or travel agency job, making $40 a day, and not end up back in hk unless she's living full time with a guy, madly in love with him, and has access to his money. There's no job, available, in all of Mexico, forna hk girl, that's gona be decent pay enough to make them stay away FROM hK. The nurses and dentists in Tijuana probably make 20 to 40 k. Once a girl has that hk money very few gona ever work for 7, 8, 12 dollars an hour and be ok with it.

[BrotherMouzone]

Don't worry, it doesn't seem insensitive. These are thoughtful and reasonable questions to ask. Many are questions I've asked of myself.

Angela always texted her mother when she was going to a room, and provided the details for "security". They were not from Tijuana, but her mother was actually a former HK girl. They had an apartment in Zona Norte. Her mother lived with her and Angela supported her. They were more like best friends than a mother-daughter dynamic. She did not text me, we had developed a thing where we talked before she went to work said our goodbyes and I love you's, and we didn't talk until the next morning. I used to stress out when she didn't respond for long periods of time. Back then I wrote it off as paranoia so we just made a rule that we didn't communicate while she was at work. The deal was, if there was a problem her mother would let me know. And there was a problem. This had actually happened once before, but she had just passed out in a clients room.

We met at HK in August 2020, and I never tried to control her or tell her what to do. It would've tainted what we had. I live in LOS Angeles and begin visiting Tijuana every weekend. Within a few weeks we were taking trips, and I had keys to her apartment. By April 2021 things had become serious, and I wasn't interested in living both lives anymore (I had the perk of having a loving girlfriend, but because of what she did I was allowed to do whatever I wanted). I wanted a real relationship and so did she (by now I knew her entire family, and I had even been vetted by her grandfather). She left HK, and had enough money saved (she thought) to open a clothing boutique. And that's what she started doing, buying clothing and looking for the space. In July, her mother broke her wrist and of course Angela paid for it. All said and done it was about 7 K. When the space finally materialized it was far more expensive than she anticipated, and her finances were strained due to the hospital bills, so in September she told me she was going back to work for a month or two. I told her I was not interested in moving backward and that if we went over finances I would bank roll the boutique. She refused, she needed it to be hers. I broke up with her. But I loved her and it didn't last. We were back together within a week. By November she was ready to quit again, had her boutique space secured in Plaza mujer and most of the merchandise purchased. We went to France to celebrate.

By the end of December she realized she needed a larger prudent reserve to keep the boutique going once it opened and get it off the ground. She was many things, but she was not an amazing accountant. She went back to HK. A story as old as time. We decided to take a 30 day break while she went back to work, but again this only lasted a week.

To clarify the events of January 24/25 as I experienced them. Angela and I FaceTime around 730 pm as she was getting ready for work. She shared some big news with me, she had finally gotten her appointment for a visa interview. We said I love you, goodbye, and that's the last time I ever spoke with her.

10-ish she texts her mom "room 404 30 min". And that's the last anybody heard from her. Around 11 her mom gets nervous when she wasn't getting a response. At 11:57 PM her mother messaged me that she was worried and she was going to HK. It was a four minute walk from their house. Her mother wasn't getting any information, and at 12:45 I messaged her mother that I was coming to Tijuana and I left LA shortly after. I messaged her mother that I was parking at 3:30 AM, and walking over to the club. I was going to look inside the club while her mother waited in the office at HK (they would not let her mother into the club). At this point I did not know what room and she was in, or even that her mother knew the room number. I was pretty panicked and not asking all the right questions. But when I entered Hong Kong and started asking around, everybody was already looking for her. Girls were saying that the Mesero's were going around with her photo and asking if anybody had seen her. Her mother was freaking out, and the police said they couldn't do anything for 72 hours. She also didn't storm up to the room because she was not allowed into the hotel or the club (I assume because she was a former worker). They had also assured her that they checked the room and it was empty. In hindsight, I believe they were just paying her lip service. At 4 AM they brought down Angela's work bag and jacket from the dressing room and gave it to her mother.

Eventually around 5 AM I started talking to a girl who had actually been with Angela and had a beer with the client she left with. She gave me a description of the man, and actually helped me talk to the managers to try and "inspire" them to do something or check on her. They dismissed me as a jealous boyfriend. Around the same time Angela's mother went home to get her second cell phone because I suggested that we could track her phone. At 5:22 AM it pinged in Downey California. I immediately called the Downey police and they asked me to email the coordinates. I heard nothing else about this. It stayed in the same location for something like 10 hours.

This goes on and on and I just walked laps around HK for hours and hours and hours. At some point in the morning around 7 AM her mother and I were allowed into the lobby of Cascada to wait. Every hour a manager came down and said that they would check in another hour, they did not want to disturb their guests and that there was some sort of policy around this. That's absurd, we all know they knock on the doors incessantly.

At some point around 9 AM, the manager came up to us very excitedly saying that the guys from the room were checking out, and we need to hurry to come talk to them. I freaked out, and he took us over through the hotel to the backside by Azul. There were these three guys very nervously trying to check out. It turns out that the ID of a girl had been found in their room. They were saying that they were all getting high and that she freaked out and ran out of the room naked hours earlier. I was straight interrogating these guys, going on and on about how Angela would never do drugs, they were lying etc. This went on for three or four minutes with me directly interrogating three hotel guests when the manager held up the ID and said "is this her". It was not her. It was a total fucking clown show. These guys were checking out of some other room and some other girls ID just happened to be found in that room. This lends itself to the staff just being disorganized and having poor communication. The manager was trying to be helpful, but damn did I scare the shit out of those guys.

I just kept going in and out and doing laps back into the club back to the lobby. There was lots of back-and-forth with HK staff in this time period, but at 12:30 PM 1/25 we heard the woop of a siren. I went downstairs and an ambulance and a police car had pulled up out front. I walked straight around the back of the building to the rear entrance, up the stairs and straight to room 404. When I came up the stairs under the fourth floor they were Cascada staff everywhere and yellow caution tape. They had the whole floor cordoned off and the security guard immediately grabbed me and escorted me back outside. I knew this guy, and he had always been a good dude and I just looked in the eye and said "tell me, tell me if she is alive". He shook his head and looked at the ground. I went back around to the front lobby where I had to tell a woman that her daughter was dead. A woman who called me her son-in-law. I've done a lot of therapy around this (emdr), so it's easier to talk about now.

I have omitted a lot of details, because while traumatic, they are trivial for this thread.

They pulled her out of the room, staff, police, and EMTs were saying overdose. I poured over every detail of the autopsy. Tox screen is clean. Nothing found in her system. The injuries she sustained were not accidental. What was done to her was brutal, sadistic, and ritualistic. He had no intention of her ever leaving that room.

It wasn't until 48 hours later that her phone pinged in Riverside. It pinged at an RV lot which seemed weird, I assumed somebody had dispose of it. I called this RV lot and the guy seemed super helpful so I sent him a screenshot of the location on the lot. It turns out there is a single house on the corner of this RV lot and it was right there. He gave me the address and I planned to go the next morning. I called the Riverside police who told me they couldn't do anything but they could do what they called a "keep the peace" which just means they would meet me there and stand back and watch. This was days later, but as far as the US was concerned this was just a stolen cell phone. It wasn't until 8 days later that we had official confirmation this was a homicide. This part is going to sound crazy. But just before I left my house a dear friend called to offer me condolences. I told her what I was about to do and where I was going and she freaked out. It turns out she was close friends with the former district attorney of Riverside County. Within five minutes I was on the phone with the former the who after asking me a bunch of questions told me to stay put. His main concern beyond my safety, was that I could taint the "chain of custody". If I had retrieved her cell phone and it became a key piece of evidence it could be totally disqualified because of my involvement. I took his advice. He immediately put me in contact with an FBI agent in Riverside. The agent was very helpful but he needed me to provide some sort of documentation that this was connected to a homicide. The Tijuana police would not provide anything official in writing stating this. He reached out to the interagency task force that works directly with Mexican police in Tijuana, but they also had zero information. So nothing. We tracked her phone to Riverside and nothing. And then her Apple Pay started getting used down the street from this address. Multiple times. We tracked the purchases and shared this with Tijuana police and I shared it with the FBI. And nothing. Her phone was never retrieved to my knowledge.

So I started reaching out to the media. I didn't know where to start but I had watched a documentary called "seven murders a day", about Tijuana. There were two journalists in the documentary that struck me as trustworthy. I had been warned to be very cautious. Even if they weren't the right guys, I knew they could point me in the right direction. One of them responded and the other did not. The one who responded told me that I was messing with very dangerous people and stopped responding pretty quickly. The one who did not respond was Margarito Martinez who it turns out had been murdered a few days before Angy. F'ing Tijuana man.

When I told Angela's mother that I was reaching out to the media, she freaked out. She would not say it directly but strongly gave me the impression that she had been threatened or at least warned to stay quiet. This was confirmed a week later when two officers confronted her when she went to retrieve Angela's body. I do not know the details of what was said, but she was shaken. Out of respect for her mother I stopped trying to communicate with the media. Beyond fear of retaliation, I also know she feared for her and Angela's reputation among family and friends. It was not known to their family what they did for money. Against every fiber in my being I conceded that it was not my place to make these decisions for her or the family. This is something I will regret forever.

I agree that the AG press conference is more than a little convenient. And it didn't come until after Zeta published its story. I agree that Angela's friend identifying this man from the 10 months later is less than reliable. His photo does however line up with the description she gave me that night in HK. Additionally, there are some very specific elements of this crime that I believe help establish an MO and a common thread between the three girls that they have announced.

I carry a ton of guilt (and anger), and I always will. By staying with her I cosigned her activities. Why didn't I leave her? Why didn't I force her to stop? How could I have let the woman I love subject herself to this? I am financially secure and I could've easily supported her and more. I have to live with this. I know with certainty that I was the love of her life (and she of mine), and I could have influenced this if I had taken a firm position. It is natural to doubt the validity of this type of relationship, but I have no doubts. I understand why an outsider might.

We buried Angela on February 3rd. We had the grand opening of her boutique Talisman in plaza mujer on February 5th in her absence. I paid the rent and carried the boutique for eight months, but her mother couldn't sustain it. Sadly it closed a 2 months ago. I still try to support her mother, and I'm haunted by the thought that I could be supporting both of them if I had just done this sooner. It didn't sound very appealing a year ago, but I would give anything to be able to support the both of them now. Her mother gave me the Valentine's Day gifts that she had gotten me before she was killed. Instead of Valentine's Day presents this year, I bought her a casket.

Angela was gorgeous. She was thoughtful, empathetic, and she was a rescuer. She rescued strays everywhere, and I was one of them. I have the deepest respect for her independence and tenacity. She was going to make her dreams come true, and she was going to do it on her own.

We sent each other a "song of the day" every day since the day we met. She compiled a playlist of all of them, it is 40 hours long. She loved me unconditionally. And I loved her.

Nothing to add, except to say this stuff is almost some made-for-TV movie type shit, wow. Very, very sorry for your loss. Hope they find the killer and that he gets what he deserves!

I am a bit puzzled about them taking you to talk to the guys who checked out around 9 AM. That was several hours after the murder. I assume they'd found her body long before then and knew what room everything happened in so should've known it wasn't those guys.

[KBToys]

We met at HK in August 2020, and I never tried to control her or tell her what to do. It would've tainted what we had. I live in LOS Angeles and begin visiting Tijuana every weekend. Within a few weeks we were taking trips, and I had keys to her apartment. By April 2021 things had become serious, and I wasn't interested in living both lives anymore (I had the perk of having a loving girlfriend, but because of what she did I was allowed to do whatever I wanted). I wanted a real relationship and so did she (by now I knew her entire family, and I had even been vetted by her grandfather). She left HK, and had enough money saved (she thought) to open a clothing boutique. And that's what she started doing, buying clothing and looking for the space. In July, her mother broke her wrist and of course Angela paid for it. All said and done it was about 7 K. When the space finally materialized it was far more expensive than she anticipated, and her finances were strained due to the hospital bills, so in September she told me she was going back to work for a month or two. I told her I was not interested in moving backward and that if we went over finances I would bank roll the boutique. She refused, she needed it to be hers. I broke up with her. But I loved her and it didn't last. We were back together within a week. By November she was ready to quit again, had her boutique space secured in Plaza mujer and most of the merchandise purchased. We went to France to celebrate.

By the end of December she realized she needed a larger prudent reserve to keep the boutique going once it opened and get it off the ground. She was many things, but she was not an amazing accountant. She went back to HK. A story as old as time. We decided to take a 30 day break while she went back to work, but again this only lasted a week.

To clarify the events of January 24/25 as I experienced them. Angela and I FaceTime around 730 pm as she was getting ready for work. She shared some big news with me, she had finally gotten her appointment for a visa interview. We said I love you, goodbye, and that's the last time I ever spoke with her.

Thanks for sharing and sorry for your loss. Most of the girls are either supporting family, trying to pay bills, or save up for a business venture. The thing with getting involved with a sexworker is that they have to make the decision on their own to walk away, but the money is just too good for most and they don't have the best accounting or finance acumen. The money is quickly spent before it is even earned. Lifestyles elevate and so do the people that they support. The issues come when they decide to stop work and guess who has to step in and pickup the tab. It will most likely be their novio or future son-in-law. They wouldn't be in the business if they didn't need the money. The goal is to find them a job, business, etc. That can produce enough income that will satisfy their lifestyle.

It is good she didn't lean on you more to fund the business venture, but at the same time it seems you were willing to foot the responsibilities for her, family, and business. It is crazy when you meet someone so unexpectedly and just click. It is when you start peeling back the layers to the onion do you get the full picture and responsibilities that entail such arrangement. Love can't sustain a relationship and sadly the business has high occupational hazards. I can only imagine what the street girls have to go through if a big business like HK can't protect them. They were supposed to organize a strike, but sadly probably never happen as they all need the money over their safety. Good luck to you.

[Anthony2023]

I do understand how some guys can get attached. I do have a soft spot for at least 2 of my repeats. But I only talk to them every once in awhile just to keep in touch thru social media or WhatsApp. I do think about their well being and hope they can improve their lives. But this is just one of the many reasons why they say it's not a good idea to get into a relationship with them. Especially if they are still living that life.

It just baffles me how the mother knew the room number, not to mention the staff should have known the room number too right? And they didn't find her till several hours later? Every time I've brought up a girl to my room they always ask her name and ask me what room number. Do they not write the name, room number and time every time a girl goes to a room? It doesn't make any sense. But maybe that's why some members have reported now that they get knocks on the door after 30 minutes even if you are staying the night.

[Dogers69]

Yeah, Luke's not a bad guy at all. I think he means well. But yeah, as you've recognized, he's trying to be something he's not putting himself out there as an all-knowing expert about Tijuana and some of the other monger-friendly cities. I mean he is a Tijuana "expert" in a sense given that he's lived down there off and on for 20+ years but even I as someone who heads down to Tijuana only a couple times a year and knows only a little Spanish could see pretty quickly that he has a penchant for giving out incorrect / uninformed info at times (though again I agree it's unintentional, just someone trying to come off as they know more than they actually do).

But IMO he's a nice, very approachable guy willing to talk to pretty much anyone who has questions about Tijuana. I think he's good for the newbie audience who have extremely basic questions about Tijuana. But wouldn't recommend him for anyone other than newbies.

This serial killer made news weeks ago. Another poster put a mexican news link. I then put a san diego tv news utube link. It took Luke a long time to even mention this. So yeah ID say Luke is not exactly in the loop. His channel is more for entertainment and shooting the shit. He also goes way pitbof his way to not upset anyone in the Tijuana area to the point it can get annoying. Like constantly telling people to pay twice as much for the taxi because they need the money. As if that's my problem. 30 people a day ask me for money in San Diego.

[LuvMexicanas]

Yeah, Luke's not a bad guy at all. I think he means well. But yeah, as you've recognized, he's trying to be something he's not putting himself out there as an all-knowing expert about Tijuana and some of the other monger-friendly cities. I mean he is a Tijuana "expert" in a sense given that he's lived down there off and on for 20+ years but even I as someone who heads down to Tijuana only a couple times a year and knows only a little Spanish could see pretty quickly that he has a penchant for giving out incorrect / uninformed info at times (though again I agree it's unintentional, just someone trying to come off as they know more than they actually do).

But IMO he's a nice, very approachable guy willing to talk to pretty much anyone who has questions about Tijuana. I think he's good for the newbie audience who have extremely basic questions about Tijuana. But wouldn't recommend him for anyone other than newbies.

Yeah, he seems like a nice guy. The problem is when he pretends to know everything about everything. For example, he posts videos of various Mexican destinations that are amateur hour at best.

[BrotherMouzone]

Much like Luke's first video about this he's representing speculation as good information. When Angela was murdered in Cascada his video said she had taken drugs with a client, OD'd, and the client was in custody. He assured everyone she had not been murdered (he doesn't bother to correct this in the new video, probably because he doesn't even know he's talking about the same thing). A huge leap from the report that there was a gringo in front of HK talking to the police and crying (that was me).

Here he falsely claims her phone was recovered in Riverside (her phone was tracked to Riverside by us, not law enforcement and was not recovered). He goes even further saying her social media was accessed and utilized to help identify Brayan Andrade Rivera. Pure fantasy. Did he even bother to read any of the news?

According to all reports (which align with knowledge of the events) Elizabeths murder cracked the case and led police to the perp. They then linked it to Angela's murder at Cascada and 1 other.

I doubt Luke is willfully spewing false info, he's just a fool who likes to sound informed.

Yeah, Luke's not a bad guy at all. I think he means well. But yeah, as you've recognized, he's trying to be something he's not putting himself out there as an all-knowing expert about Tijuana and some of the other monger-friendly cities. I mean he is a Tijuana "expert" in a sense given that he's lived down there off and on for 20+ years but even I as someone who heads down to Tijuana only a couple times a year and knows only a little Spanish could see pretty quickly that he has a penchant for giving out incorrect / uninformed info at times (though again I agree it's unintentional, just someone trying to come off as they know more than they actually do).

But IMO he's a nice, very approachable guy willing to talk to pretty much anyone who has questions about Tijuana. I think he's good for the newbie audience who have extremely basic questions about Tijuana. But wouldn't recommend him for anyone other than newbies.

[Regias Voice]

The Zeta article I had read in their site was different than the one I went back and read that was posted here by Dogers. I did see how they named her and Cascadas. The biggest question I have is why the journalist didn't pressure Cascadas more on how she was found dead and them letting the guy go. All of us know that the workers are very close to the rooms and quick to ask for a tip as soon as you walk out so it seems odd that this guy could walk out with such ease. So I went back to your first post on this board and the stories you told that happened. Most of the stories you are consistent with while other things are a little confusing or maybe I misunderstood what you were trying to say.

Some of what I write might seem insensitive but I'm just trying to understand everything that happened and maybe why you didn't do more. I also remember when this happened that guys were talking about 2 girls dying and some of it might have been a story planted to out a former poster here who's GF might of been testing to see if he was talking about her online. It's odd because if you go back a few pages from your first post that guy talked about a warning of a customer in HK that spends big money to get girls to go with him outside the club and beats them up and leaves them on the road to Tecate but HK knew who he was and had warned the girls. So at the time it just seemed like a lot of crazy stuff going on and in some ways it felt like a few girls in HK were maybe making up stories on here to try and hurt HK by clients not going. So soon after HK started with the rules of checking on the rooms more and trying to force guys to buy drinks for girls in over an hour. Unfortunately as more info came out it wasn't all a smear campaign which make me wonder about other things.

So she texted the mom at 10 ish the room number and 30 min. Now a poster asked you why she texted the mom since us in the US don't usually think that the family knows what these girls do for a job but from the girls that I meet its pretty common. To me it seemed more odd that it was the mom living in Tijuana usually the girls aren't from Tijuana and the family isn't here except maybe a baby if they have one. So I was thinking that you might of claimed it was the mom when actually it was you that she texted. You mentioned in later posts that she wouldn't accept money from you but it's odd the love you had for each other why you continued to let her work. When I got involved with my ex she worked while we dated and sometimes complained that she was missing work to spend time with me and didn't have much money, I told her she wouldn't have to worry about money if she stopped working and lived with me but I couldn't pay her for her time as a boyfriend. Maybe you already have a family in SD or something but I always wondered what your relationship with her really was.

So after the 30'min no text is sent that she is ok and when a text is sent to her phone it's ignored and soon after another text and the phone was turned off. That's when the mom gets worried and decides to call you first or she goes to HK to check on her. So the mom is made to wait for 12 hours with Cascadas saying that nobody is in the room and basically saying she is crazy. Now at some point you arrive and are trying to get them to open the room. So here is another part I don't understand. If I was a mother I would go crazy on them and get the police or something to make them open the door or if you were there why not try to do more make a scene. In one of the posts I think it was you in Spanish sending a message to other girls that the cops and everyone was paid off because it would be bad for business. So the journalist from Zeta for some reason doesn't try to look into this more and as bad as them letting a girl get murdered and let the guy go isn't as bad as the story of them trying to cover it up. I find it hard to believe that nobody would talk in private with the journalist from Cascadas or HK. Now the HK staff might not know exactly what happened since it was a hotel matter but I imagine word got to them quickly that something had happened.

So finally she is removed from the room and they say it was an overdose, now you claim she never did drugs and I know we always want to believe the best of the ones we love but the Zona makes people do things that they normally wouldn't. Also many guys and some girls are into being strangled during sex. I think many sickos watch porn and how women are treated and they get it in there head that if the girl is a prostitute that they can be treated the same way. So in one of your posts you mentioned that you were there and how the body was found in the room and that you couldn't believe that it was anything but murder. So this is one story that you didn't seem consistent on so I would like you to clarify it. Because if they said the room was empty before and they suddenly open it up and let you in and it's obviously not empty why didn't you get more of an explanation from them or why the journalist didn't investigate this more.

So now she's taken to the coroner and they do the autopsy. So did they give you a copy and did they find drugs in her system? It would be hard to prove if he drugged her depending on what drug it was. If he was drinking with 2 girls in the bar I would find it hard to do in the club, as much as everyone hates on the waiters they do a good job of watching out for those things and you also have security and cameras.

So after all of this if they let a killer go the biggest thing if I was family or a lover is be out trying to draw as much attention to it as possible even if I had to stand in front of the hotel everyday The working girls in Tijuana have pretty strong groups that fight for them so it's a surprise that they wouldn't have been willing to force this cover up more. The AG confirming later that it was a murder could be just so he can try to make it a serial killer just to get more press especially since it's a US citizen. The pics of the murder in the Zeta article don't say where they got them. I know the girl in HK that was drinking with them said she believed it to be the same guy but after that much time and her not seeing an actual line up and point the guy out if I was on a jury I probably wouldn't believe her story.

So you and the mom trace the phone to Riverside but the phone and him aren't found. You claim the US wasn't involved so I'm confused who went to Riverside? Also why didn't you follow the trace or maybe you can't cross? Yeah trying to contact the FBI is useless since it wasn't a US citizen that was killed. At least from what I read them and Interpol are looking into it now. So after nothing happens for a few weeks another girl is killed and now that family makes more of a stand and things get done. So I understand how you feel guilty for not being more of an advocate when Angela was murder and I'm not trying to make it worse but I'm sure you also feel much guilt for Angela's death. You mentioned you had gone to the media when it first happened but no news. So what media did you go to and what did they say? Why didn't they care? I guess it's easy to look back and say I should have done this or that.

As far as HK you are right it's HK. The only thing I would say in regards to HK as a business and HK as the workers who consist of management, waiters and the girls. I know a few and some in management, now those that I know I originally knew in smaller bars and it was very much a family with different parties being celebrated together since most live in Tijuana alone, and if anyone tried do do anything to a girl they would gladly make that person pay. Now once I had a friend get rapped in CC when I found out I went over to talk to the waiter I knew and yelled at him on how could he allow it to happen, he said he didn't like it either but the hotel isn't the bar so he doesn't control what goes on. I think it's easy to throw HK the bar in with HK Cascadas hotel were the bar and waiters don't control. Now like I said before it's odd that nobody from HK or Cascadas has come out privately to talk about what really happened, many of the workers do look out for the girls the best they can. I think any girl that comes to work in the Zona shouldn't be so nieve to think that they have no risks in whatever establishment they work at, I think HK does what they can and sometimes the security measures they have are up to the employees to in force and I'm sure many things get complacent over time and soon you have people getting away with things. Same can be said with TSA that most workers aren't 100% vigilant at all times. It would be very sad if someone from HK decided to try and cover this up just because it might effect the business for a few days. I think the killing in AB was much worse and they didn't seem to be having problems for very long.

Well I do wish you the best and this guy gets caught and somehow he is proved to be the one. Hopefully they have his DNA from the murder of Angela.

Again please post any new info on here since I try to stay current with most news in Tijuana but I might miss something.

Don't worry, it doesn't seem insensitive. These are thoughtful and reasonable questions to ask. Many are questions I've asked of myself.

Angela always texted her mother when she was going to a room, and provided the details for "security". They were not from Tijuana, but her mother was actually a former HK girl. They had an apartment in Zona Norte. Her mother lived with her and Angela supported her. They were more like best friends than a mother-daughter dynamic. She did not text me, we had developed a thing where we talked before she went to work said our goodbyes and I love you's, and we didn't talk until the next morning. I used to stress out when she didn't respond for long periods of time. Back then I wrote it off as paranoia so we just made a rule that we didn't communicate while she was at work. The deal was, if there was a problem her mother would let me know. And there was a problem. This had actually happened once before, but she had just passed out in a clients room.

We met at HK in August 2020, and I never tried to control her or tell her what to do. It would've tainted what we had. I live in LOS Angeles and begin visiting Tijuana every weekend. Within a few weeks we were taking trips, and I had keys to her apartment. By April 2021 things had become serious, and I wasn't interested in living both lives anymore (I had the perk of having a loving girlfriend, but because of what she did I was allowed to do whatever I wanted). I wanted a real relationship and so did she (by now I knew her entire family, and I had even been vetted by her grandfather). She left HK, and had enough money saved (she thought) to open a clothing boutique. And that's what she started doing, buying clothing and looking for the space. In July, her mother broke her wrist and of course Angela paid for it. All said and done it was about 7 K. When the space finally materialized it was far more expensive than she anticipated, and her finances were strained due to the hospital bills, so in September she told me she was going back to work for a month or two. I told her I was not interested in moving backward and that if we went over finances I would bank roll the boutique. She refused, she needed it to be hers. I broke up with her. But I loved her and it didn't last. We were back together within a week. By November she was ready to quit again, had her boutique space secured in Plaza mujer and most of the merchandise purchased. We went to France to celebrate.

By the end of December she realized she needed a larger prudent reserve to keep the boutique going once it opened and get it off the ground. She was many things, but she was not an amazing accountant. She went back to HK. A story as old as time. We decided to take a 30 day break while she went back to work, but again this only lasted a week.

To clarify the events of January 24/25 as I experienced them. Angela and I FaceTime around 730 pm as she was getting ready for work. She shared some big news with me, she had finally gotten her appointment for a visa interview. We said I love you, goodbye, and that's the last time I ever spoke with her.

10-ish she texts her mom "room 404 30 min". And that's the last anybody heard from her. Around 11 her mom gets nervous when she wasn't getting a response. At 11:57 PM her mother messaged me that she was worried and she was going to HK. It was a four minute walk from their house. Her mother wasn't getting any information, and at 12:45 I messaged her mother that I was coming to Tijuana and I left LA shortly after. I messaged her mother that I was parking at 3:30 AM, and walking over to the club. I was going to look inside the club while her mother waited in the office at HK (they would not let her mother into the club). At this point I did not know what room and she was in, or even that her mother knew the room number. I was pretty panicked and not asking all the right questions. But when I entered Hong Kong and started asking around, everybody was already looking for her. Girls were saying that the Mesero's were going around with her photo and asking if anybody had seen her. Her mother was freaking out, and the police said they couldn't do anything for 72 hours. She also didn't storm up to the room because she was not allowed into the hotel or the club (I assume because she was a former worker). They had also assured her that they checked the room and it was empty. In hindsight, I believe they were just paying her lip service. At 4 AM they brought down Angela's work bag and jacket from the dressing room and gave it to her mother.

Eventually around 5 AM I started talking to a girl who had actually been with Angela and had a beer with the client she left with. She gave me a description of the man, and actually helped me talk to the managers to try and "inspire" them to do something or check on her. They dismissed me as a jealous boyfriend. Around the same time Angela's mother went home to get her second cell phone because I suggested that we could track her phone. At 5:22 AM it pinged in Downey California. I immediately called the Downey police and they asked me to email the coordinates. I heard nothing else about this. It stayed in the same location for something like 10 hours.

This goes on and on and I just walked laps around HK for hours and hours and hours. At some point in the morning around 7 AM her mother and I were allowed into the lobby of Cascada to wait. Every hour a manager came down and said that they would check in another hour, they did not want to disturb their guests and that there was some sort of policy around this. That's absurd, we all know they knock on the doors incessantly.

At some point around 9 AM, the manager came up to us very excitedly saying that the guys from the room were checking out, and we need to hurry to come talk to them. I freaked out, and he took us over through the hotel to the backside by Azul. There were these three guys very nervously trying to check out. It turns out that the ID of a girl had been found in their room. They were saying that they were all getting high and that she freaked out and ran out of the room naked hours earlier. I was straight interrogating these guys, going on and on about how Angela would never do drugs, they were lying etc. This went on for three or four minutes with me directly interrogating three hotel guests when the manager held up the ID and said "is this her". It was not her. It was a total fucking clown show. These guys were checking out of some other room and some other girls ID just happened to be found in that room. This lends itself to the staff just being disorganized and having poor communication. The manager was trying to be helpful, but damn did I scare the shit out of those guys.

I just kept going in and out and doing laps back into the club back to the lobby. There was lots of back-and-forth with HK staff in this time period, but at 12:30 PM 1/25 we heard the woop of a siren. I went downstairs and an ambulance and a police car had pulled up out front. I walked straight around the back of the building to the rear entrance, up the stairs and straight to room 404. When I came up the stairs under the fourth floor they were Cascada staff everywhere and yellow caution tape. They had the whole floor cordoned off and the security guard immediately grabbed me and escorted me back outside. I knew this guy, and he had always been a good dude and I just looked in the eye and said "tell me, tell me if she is alive". He shook his head and looked at the ground. I went back around to the front lobby where I had to tell a woman that her daughter was dead. A woman who called me her son-in-law. I've done a lot of therapy around this (emdr), so it's easier to talk about now.

I have omitted a lot of details, because while traumatic, they are trivial for this thread.

They pulled her out of the room, staff, police, and EMTs were saying overdose. I poured over every detail of the autopsy. Tox screen is clean. Nothing found in her system. The injuries she sustained were not accidental. What was done to her was brutal, sadistic, and ritualistic. He had no intention of her ever leaving that room.

It wasn't until 48 hours later that her phone pinged in Riverside. It pinged at an RV lot which seemed weird, I assumed somebody had dispose of it. I called this RV lot and the guy seemed super helpful so I sent him a screenshot of the location on the lot. It turns out there is a single house on the corner of this RV lot and it was right there. He gave me the address and I planned to go the next morning. I called the Riverside police who told me they couldn't do anything but they could do what they called a "keep the peace" which just means they would meet me there and stand back and watch. This was days later, but as far as the US was concerned this was just a stolen cell phone. It wasn't until 8 days later that we had official confirmation this was a homicide. This part is going to sound crazy. But just before I left my house a dear friend called to offer me condolences. I told her what I was about to do and where I was going and she freaked out. It turns out she was close friends with the former district attorney of Riverside County. Within five minutes I was on the phone with the former the who after asking me a bunch of questions told me to stay put. His main concern beyond my safety, was that I could taint the "chain of custody". If I had retrieved her cell phone and it became a key piece of evidence it could be totally disqualified because of my involvement. I took his advice. He immediately put me in contact with an FBI agent in Riverside. The agent was very helpful but he needed me to provide some sort of documentation that this was connected to a homicide. The Tijuana police would not provide anything official in writing stating this. He reached out to the interagency task force that works directly with Mexican police in Tijuana, but they also had zero information. So nothing. We tracked her phone to Riverside and nothing. And then her Apple Pay started getting used down the street from this address. Multiple times. We tracked the purchases and shared this with Tijuana police and I shared it with the FBI. And nothing. Her phone was never retrieved to my knowledge.

So I started reaching out to the media. I didn't know where to start but I had watched a documentary called "seven murders a day", about Tijuana. There were two journalists in the documentary that struck me as trustworthy. I had been warned to be very cautious. Even if they weren't the right guys, I knew they could point me in the right direction. One of them responded and the other did not. The one who responded told me that I was messing with very dangerous people and stopped responding pretty quickly. The one who did not respond was Margarito Martinez who it turns out had been murdered a few days before Angy. F'ing Tijuana man.

When I told Angela's mother that I was reaching out to the media, she freaked out. She would not say it directly but strongly gave me the impression that she had been threatened or at least warned to stay quiet. This was confirmed a week later when two officers confronted her when she went to retrieve Angela's body. I do not know the details of what was said, but she was shaken. Out of respect for her mother I stopped trying to communicate with the media. Beyond fear of retaliation, I also know she feared for her and Angela's reputation among family and friends. It was not known to their family what they did for money. Against every fiber in my being I conceded that it was not my place to make these decisions for her or the family. This is something I will regret forever.

I agree that the AG press conference is more than a little convenient. And it didn't come until after Zeta published its story. I agree that Angela's friend identifying this man from the 10 months later is less than reliable. His photo does however line up with the description she gave me that night in HK. Additionally, there are some very specific elements of this crime that I believe help establish an MO and a common thread between the three girls that they have announced.

I carry a ton of guilt (and anger), and I always will. By staying with her I cosigned her activities. Why didn't I leave her? Why didn't I force her to stop? How could I have let the woman I love subject herself to this? I am financially secure and I could've easily supported her and more. I have to live with this. I know with certainty that I was the love of her life (and she of mine), and I could have influenced this if I had taken a firm position. It is natural to doubt the validity of this type of relationship, but I have no doubts. I understand why an outsider might.

We buried Angela on February 3rd. We had the grand opening of her boutique Talisman in plaza mujer on February 5th in her absence. I paid the rent and carried the boutique for eight months, but her mother couldn't sustain it. Sadly it closed a 2 months ago. I still try to support her mother, and I'm haunted by the thought that I could be supporting both of them if I had just done this sooner. It didn't sound very appealing a year ago, but I would give anything to be able to support the both of them now. Her mother gave me the Valentine's Day gifts that she had gotten me before she was killed. Instead of Valentine's Day presents this year, I bought her a casket.

Angela was gorgeous. She was thoughtful, empathetic, and she was a rescuer. She rescued strays everywhere, and I was one of them. I have the deepest respect for her independence and tenacity. She was going to make her dreams come true, and she was going to do it on her own.

We sent each other a "song of the day" every day since the day we met. She compiled a playlist of all of them, it is 40 hours long. She loved me unconditionally. And I loved her.

[Regias Voice]

I wouldn't trust a source from someone who like's to snort coke off hookers assholes like he's mentioned. Have you gone back to HK since? I don't know how I would feel about going back to a place where I knew someone who got murdered.

I returned once two months ago right after the Zeta article. I went to see some of Angy's friends, and meseros that knew her. It was painful and nostalgic at the same time. It is the place where we met, and the place where she met the man that killed her. I will certainly never go into Cascada again, unless it is to perform a séance in 404.

[Regias Voice]

Luke seems like a nice guy and he is entertaining on youtube and his live feeds. He is just like any of us mongers just trying to bust a nut for as cheap as possible. Look guys when you fuck a gal even in the zona you can become attached if you not careful, it happened to me a few times. When you start to blur reality from fantasy it is time to take a long break from the zona. I don't wish any gal working in the zona to be hurt or killed as many are single mothers trying to survive, but that environment is not exactly safe for a women especially if they go outside of the club with clients. Bottom line Luke might not have said everything perfectly in his video about the serial killer Brayan Rivera, but he tried to at least make us all aware of him. I warned several gals I know from the zona about the guy and sent pictures of him. Anyway safe mongering and Merry Christmas to all!

I appreciate Luke getting the name and photo out there, and I told him as much.

[Dogers69]

I wouldn't trust a source from someone who like's to snort coke off hookers assholes like he's mentioned. Have you gone back to HK since? I don't know how I would feel about going back to a place where I knew someone who got murdered.

I'm in a low murder area, san diego, and every shopping center I'm in, or pass everyday, I can recall murders taking place just in the last 7 years. Almost every hotel I stay in, if I Google the hotel I can find some murders going down. You can't find many strip clubs without shootings or murders in the parking lot in usa. Even the high end hotels have murders. Theres so many murders everywhere, we all probably walk in a spot where someone was murdered, probably 20 times a day if you live in a city and not a suburb.

[SeaBeeJoe]

I wouldn't trust a source from someone who like's to snort coke off hookers assholes like he's mentioned. Have you gone back to HK since? I don't know how I would feel about going back to a place where I knew someone who got murdered.

Luke seems like a nice guy and he is entertaining on youtube and his live feeds. He is just like any of us mongers just trying to bust a nut for as cheap as possible. Look guys when you fuck a gal even in the zona you can become attached if you not careful, it happened to me a few times. When you start to blur reality from fantasy it is time to take a long break from the zona. I don't wish any gal working in the zona to be hurt or killed as many are single mothers trying to survive, but that environment is not exactly safe for a women especially if they go outside of the club with clients. Bottom line Luke might not have said everything perfectly in his video about the serial killer Brayan Rivera, but he tried to at least make us all aware of him. I warned several gals I know from the zona about the guy and sent pictures of him. Anyway safe mongering and Merry Christmas to all!

[Anthony2023]

I doubt Luke is willfully spewing false info, he's just a fool who likes to sound informed.

I wouldn't trust a source from someone who like's to snort coke off hookers assholes like he's mentioned. Have you gone back to HK since? I don't know how I would feel about going back to a place where I knew someone who got murdered.

[Jackie888]

Last couple weeks I have not seen any Policia Municipal patrol on foot or in cars around La Zona Norte. Normally nearing Christmas they would normal go hyper shaking down gringos and drivers. Wander what the hell they are up to? Some guys told me HK complained to someone about policia harassing mongers, so the authority put a stop to it. I hope it stays this way.

National Guards trucks with half dozen heavily armed soldiers keep driving the loop around the bar block. Looks like Nat Guard has been assigned to fight the cartels and Pol Mun is deployed somewhere else. Dealers were in front of Azuls, and Libra parking yelling loudly "cuanto, cuanto?

The blocks North of Hong Kong is allegedly staging area for drug trafficking. I saw half dozen Pol trucks arrest 2 gringos, put them in hand cuffs, interrogate them on the street. Locals told me they were traficos.

What's interesting is that there was a heavy National Guards presence Thursday night even though the tourist traffic was relatively low. I would speculate that the cops are moonlighting in Hk as meseros so that they can better shake down visitors.